| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 11:44:26 AM |
Actually, the age of consent in Canada is 14. This means that if I, at 47, met someone who is 14 and it was consensual sex, inappropriate as it would be, it would be legal. Would I? No. Could I legally? Yes, though I'm sure it would cause quite a stir. They are talking about raising the age of consent to 16 in Canada.
Sorry to inform you but you are only half right there, yes the legal age to sleep with someone in canada is 14 BUT they can not be older then 19 if you are under or it is considers stat rape! So you should check that again.
Legal age to say yes to sex is 14, you are able to sleep with anyone under the age of 18 at that time, anyone 19 and over sleeping with a 14 year old is charged with stat rape, and I am sorry but anyone over 18 that has any the thought to sleep with someone 14 is beond sick in their head and yes should be charged with rape. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 12:21:42 PM |
Sorry to inform you but you are only half right there, yes the legal age to sleep with someone in canada is 14 BUT they can not be older then 19 if you are under or it is considers stat rape! So you should check that again.
Legal age to say yes to sex is 14, you are able to sleep with anyone under the age of 18 at that time, anyone 19 and over sleeping with a 14 year old is charged with stat rape, and I am sorry but anyone over 18 that has any the thought to sleep with someone 14 is beond sick in their head and yes should be charged with rape.
Well, I'm not so sure. Can you provide that info?
Here's what I found:
The Criminal Code does not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent. Even consensual activity with those under 14 but over 12 may not be an offence if the accused is under 16 and less than two years older than the complainant. The exception, of course, is anal intercourse, to which unmarried persons under 18 cannot legally consent, although both the Ontario Court of Appeal(3) and the Quebec Court of Appeal(4) have struck down the relevant section of the Criminal Code.
The "relationship of trust or dependency" part covers such situations as teacher/student, priest/parishioner, counsellor/patient... that sort of thing.
However.... no matter your moral indignation, having sex with someone who is 19 while the older person is much older is not sick or twisted for everyone. It happens and despite your disgust, a lot of people would be in like Flynn if the opportunity arose, both male and female. Be as outraged as you want. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 12:34:44 PM | iago..
this isnt about a young person/older person having sex
this is about a 47 man,whom the mother was interested,JOKING about her 2 years old in a sexual nature, he joked it may be kinky if she was older meaning having an interest in both mother and daughter
either way we cut it, it was a rude and inappropriate joke
simple as that | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 12:50:59 PM |
this is about a 47 man,whom the mother was interested,JOKING about her 2 years old in a sexual nature, he joked it may be kinky if she was older meaning having an interest in both mother and daughter
either way we cut it, it was a rude and inappropriate joke
I agree that IF the guy was saying it turns him on that the kid is two, THAT WOULD BE SICK AS HELL AND I'D BE THE FIRST TO CALL THE FRIGGIN' COPS! (tThough I didn't see where it was mentioned the guy was 47).
And, again, if you read the OP's post:
This is what the guy said to me: "You know, that would be kinky if she is older"
He doesn't say, " That would be kinky if she was just a COUPLE of years older". For all any of us know, he meant "...if she was only 25, 30, 40 years older..." Come on folks! | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 1:35:42 PM | NO, iago_lives, I wouldn't even consider it.. just like I don't consider the ones that try and contact me here.
It's not about having my 'panties in a bunch' it's called MORALS .. which has NOTHING to do if "someone is around to judge me" , morals are a little deeper then that, however, I'm quite sure this is beyond you.. as your posts are indicating.
ped·o·phil·i·a
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. (fantasy???-- get it)
^^ Maybe you question 'what a child or children' are. However, at 43, having teens or even when I look at young adults (20's) they, to me, are still children; in the sense they still have many years to grow and mature. And, really shouldn't have to think about being 'fantasized' about, especially, in an incestuous way.
Get a grip (or maybe even therapy) | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 1:55:36 PM | just my pennys worth..
i have an 18yr old daughter and have often heard men saying about doign a mother and daughter and have been asked it of us too.. there is no way either of us would do that anyway but to be asked by complete strangers is horrendous.
christ it feels weird enough when she's told me that any of her college buddies have thought of me as 'hot' and that is with EVERYONE legal aged.
my personal opinion on this grown man using the word kinky in ANY respect when a 2yr old is on the phone is down right wrong, how can he even think that and say when she is older, who knows what anyone will be like when they are older from that tiny age let alone to even imagine her baby babbling on the phone as kinky.
makes you wonder if he is thinking abotu the daughter a 'little older' already and imagining her doing the phone stuff then what else has already gone through his mind???? | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 2:35:37 PM |
morals are a little deeper then that, however, I'm quite sure this is beyond you.. as your posts are indicating.
Get a grip (or maybe even therapy)
Well, you have your definitions and view of people and reality. I am entitled to mine. I just choose not to judge people by such narrow guidelines nor to be quite as condescending of the opinions of others.
Cheers. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 3:39:24 PM |
However.... no matter your moral indignation, having sex with someone who is 19 while the older person is much older is not sick or twisted for everyone
No I dont see anything wrong with that because BOTH people are of age (19 and older) but anything between say a 43 year old and a person under the age of 19 is sick if you ask me! They are over 19 and can choose who they want to be with legaly, but anything under 19 the parent's can charge the person over 19 for stat rape!
Here is something for you to read! And read it carefully it is for canada!
The idea of consent, or agreeing to do something, is very important when trying to understand Canada's laws on sex. In general terms our law says that it is illegal for a person to engage in sexual activity with another p erson who does not consent. This means both people must agree to have sex for it to be legal. However, the Code also sets out a number of situations where one person is not legally capable of giving consent. In other words, even if s/he says that it is okay, it is still not allowed.
These situations are as follows: where one person is under 14 and the other is more than two years older (like a 13 year old and a 16 year old); where one person is between 14 and 16 and the other is in a position of trust or authority (like a teacher ); where a person consents because s/he is threatened or forced to; where a person consents because the accused threatened or forced another person who s/he knows to get the consent; and where the accused lied to the complainant about something to get the consent. In all these cases even if the person said yes, s/he really meant no even if they did not realize it.
Canada's sex laws are a little bit confusing but extremely important to young people and they are laws you should know about. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 3:46:11 PM | | ^^^^ If you look back, this is exactly the same as the quote I used which was directly from the Criminal Code of Canada. There is absolutely NOTHING about having sex with someone under 19 but older than 14 except for " person in a position of authority" sort of situation. Again, be morally and righteously indignant, but legally, the story is different. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 3:59:32 PM | There is absolutely NOTHING about having sex with someone under 19 but older than 14 except for
I guess you are not quit understanding.................................
where one person is under 14 and the other is more than two years older (like a 13 year old and a 16 year old);
If you read my post again you will learn to undersatand that between 14 and 18 (19 and over is diffrent) as long as they are over 2 years older then the person it is not considered consent to having sex with the person. so let my put it in better terms for you!
14 +18 is a no sex cause it is not consteted EVEN if they say yes it is not considerd consteted!
14+16 is fine as they are 2 years apart so the consent can still stick!
Do you get it now???? Maybe this will get through to you
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Short Title
1. This act may be cited as the Statutory Rape Act
Interpretation
2. (1) In this Act,
(a) "sexual activity" is any sexual act involving two or more people that is meant to be arousing.
(i) The above definition includes nude photography meant to be arousing.
(b) "minor" is any person under the age of 18 years.
Offences
3. It shall be an offence for any person to engage in sexual activity with a minor.
Exceptions
4. No person shall be prosecuted under this Act for engaging in sexual activity with a minor no more than three full years younger.
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 4:03:34 PM | This is what the guy said to me: "You know, that would be kinky if she is older"
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that's not old that's sick- is he on the childabuse register coz he shud be and if you carry on with this relationship- i'd fear for my daughter  | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 4:06:09 PM |
Do you get it now????
Well, as a matter of fact I do, because I know how to read.
...where one person is under 14 and the other is more than two years older (like a 13 year old and a 16 year old)...
Do YOU get it now???? | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 4:08:41 PM | Yep I get it, that is why I graduated with my legal paper's for paralegal thanks.
13+16 is a no go because they are more then 2 years older! Anyone 2 years older is a no go tell they are 19 and over, well 18 actureally. Anything else is considered Stat rape read that part again. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 6:04:08 PM |
Anyone 2 years older is a no go tell they are 19 and over, well 18 actureally. Anything else is considered Stat rape read that part again.
A Public Statement:
I stand corrected. A person can be charged with Statutory Rape in Canada if that person has sex or tries to solicit someone for sex when the person is under 18. The interesting part is that the Age of Consent is still 14 in Canada. They brought in a law to guard against the exploitation of people under 18 because of the Internet. So, all you people no matter what age you are (14-123), be careful if you are having exploitative sex with anyone under age 19.
However, to get back on topic, I still stand by my statements that people here have taken the OP's original query out of context. And, I will continue to lust after the 38 year old mothers of the women I date.
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 8:11:21 PM | hmmmm...Im sorry , and I'll get bashed probably, but I tend to think the guy meant absolutely nothing by his remark. I think it's been taken out of context, and was in no way intended to offend the OP....
now, that said...I think OP should definitely keep her daughter off the phone to her male friends. It's cute yeah, but gets old real quick Im sure when the 2 year old keeps interrupting an adult conversation...
I think some folks are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overeacting......Just my two cents worth | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/26/2007 8:50:07 PM | I agree with thnknmansgirl.
Its all the fad these days to hate pedophiles. Seems like people look around and hope to find a pedo just so they can hate them. Then they tell all their friends about it and have competitions who can out-hate the other and utter the most lame comments about protecting children. Anyone who shows the slightest hint of pedo tendencies are instantly categorized and hated without any chance for redemption - even if they haven't done anything wrong.
I would guess the guy just said the first stupid comment that entered his mind, like most guys do, and instantly felt like an idiot for saying it...like most guys do. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/27/2007 5:49:54 AM |
However, to get back on topic, I still stand by my statements that people here have taken the OP's original query out of context. And, I will continue to lust after the 38 year old mothers of the women I date.
I agree that people have taken the original query out of context, I mean he did say if she was older, that was not what my point was on here, my point on here was for the "I would do both mom and her daughter" comment.
OP yes it does soud strange for a mom to hear something like that, and if you were uncomfy with it then it is good to end the relationship with him. But no I dont think he is a pedofile for saying it, I mean there are a lot of things that are said by people in the run of a day that people dont agree with but that doesnt make someone a pedofile. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/27/2007 6:34:21 AM | i would delete his number and make sure she cant ring him again ....then i would keep him well away from her and yourself.......alarm bells ringing here i think. just ask yourself ...
what kind of man would say that about a 2 year old....there is a name for them | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/27/2007 12:42:10 PM |
Yep I get it, that is why I graduated with my legal paper's for paralegal thanks.
13+16 is a no go because they are more then 2 years older! Anyone 2 years older is a no go tell they are 19 and over, well 18 actureally. Anything else is considered Stat rape read that part again.
You might want to actually read through it all (including the Criminal Code) because the law is not exactly as you portray it.
It is not automatically statutory rape when it involves a much older adult and a person under 18.
What the amendment you've cited does is make it easier to define a relationship between an adult and a person under 18 as exploitative but it is still up to the Crown to determine if charges are warranted and a judge to decide if it actually was exploitative.
http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/clp/faq.html
What is Canada’s age of consent?
The age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity involves exploitative activity, such as prostitution, pornography or where there is a relationship of trust, authority or dependency. For other sexual activity, the age of consent is 14 years.
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How does Bill C-2 (Protection of children and other vulnerable persons), which was passed by Parliament in July 2005, address the age of consent?
Bill C-2 provides increased protection against exploitative sexual activity. It creates a new offence against the sexual exploitation of youth under 18 years where the relationship is exploitative of the young person, as evidenced by the nature and circumstances of the relationship, including the age of the young person, the difference in age between the youth and the other person, how the relationship evolved, and the degree of control or influence exercised over the young person.
Accordingly, this new offence provides youth with better protection against sexual exploitation by focusing on the wrongful conduct of the other person who exploits their vulnerability and not on whether they “consented” to be exploited.
How will Bill C-2 better protect young persons from sexual predators?
Bill C-2’s new offence against the sexual exploitation of youth under 18 years age recognizes that sexual predators - whether they are much older or close in age - seek to exploit the particular circumstances or vulnerabilities of young persons. Bill C-2 recognizes that the age of a person can be an indicator of vulnerability; however, Bill C-2 also recognizes that there are other indicators, including:
* age difference: is the other person much older than the young person?
* evolution of the relationship: how did the relationship develop? For example, did it develop quickly and secretly over the Internet?
* control or influence over the young person: what degree of control or influence did the other person have over the young person?
Under Bill C-2, all of these factors are relevant with the result that all youth under 18 will be better protected against those who seek to prey on their vulnerability.
The link to Bill c-46 (Criminal Code), section V (Sexual Offences, ...)
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-46/bo-ga%3Al_V/20070527/en/?noCookie#anchorbo-ga:l_V
The guys comment was definitely rude and crude.
Odds are that he was trying to be funny but why you would say something like that to a person with whom you are trying to build a relationship is beyond me. | |
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| what do you think of this guy's comment about my 2 year old?
Posted: 5/27/2007 1:19:28 PM | Ask the other guy for the links that I sent him as they are what state's the laws and so forth for Stat rape! Your is saying nothing at all.
He has the links and now understands what I was saying as it is all strigh forward! Anyone under the age of 18 that has sex with someone older then 2-3 years (diffrent place's diffrent case's) it is considered Stat rape because consent is not considered! | |
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