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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/29/2007 9:08:08 PM | The mail order bride idea came about when american settlers were heading to settle new lands in the west...
then later it changed into something else.
What amazes me is with all the technology they now have why they do not make a
robot female... programmed with basic language, can be moved around and used as a sexual object ( openings that will accomidate a penis) so men who only want a hot woman for sex can buy one.
They should make and market them where a guy can pick one out based on his preferences like someone would a new car.
They could make men robots for the same porpose for women to buy too for those who are inclined in that way... as for some people, it would be enough... and with technology they could make life size talking robots in the human form with basic language and enough programming to simulate a sex act. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/29/2007 9:24:36 PM |
There is no difference between using a mail order bride and visiting a country with women enamored by America...Good luck with fantasizing otherwise. In the UK, we call these countries the rest of the world. Even the French are coming in droves.
It was in the paper recently that a 72 year old man was stabbed to death 26 times by his new Thai 23 year old wife after she discovered he was skint! lol Even Anna Nicole Smith R.I.P. would understand that one.
But I would pay top dollar for for a Stepford Spouse. Microsoft have announced that they're coming out next year. But Nintendo will beat them to it, as usual.
I'd even spring for the extra-chip options so I could change his personalities once in a while. You still have to reboot, though. And the penis extension is extra, or so I hear.
Yep, nothing like a custom, made to order man. We call them rent-boys. Very cheap. Me love you long time. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/29/2007 10:55:54 PM |  What the traiffs on importing them, and hell I could get a robot to do half those things. I figure mail order birbes from third world countries are not worth it because I rather a have women stand up for herself, and be assertive, independant and not depend on me.  | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:02:18 AM | DrG1301 - To be perfectly honest feller - you look like the kind of person that would have a mail order bride on order this very minute! lol - Unless that profile picture really is a joke of course - then I sincerely apologise.
Mail order brides - telling people to educate themselves? What the hell are you on man? why are they mail order it they've met? Get real here, mail order brides are for the cosmetically challenged gentleman that has very little to offer the more westernised, educated lady that doesnt sell her ring finger for sex on tap.
At the end of the day they are full time prostitutes - your trying to convince the educated people of this site that these things are actually based on true love arnt you?
Arrr - I really feel sorry for you my friend.
DREAM ON!.... | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:07:34 AM | I don't know much about this. However, if I had to take a guess as to why this is popular:
1. You both get the "best" of both worlds; she gets to come to the USA (American Dream/Freedom) and get citizenship.
2. He gets a submissive woman who is not as independent as an americanized woman. She will do anything to make him "happy" and be oh so grateful for bringing/marrying her.
Best,
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:09:47 AM | My personal take on mail order brides: I actually know a guy who had a Russian mail order bride. He's a fat, lazy, chauvanistic moron. She spoke very little English when he brought her over here and she was basically slave labor for a long time. She gradually learned English, got a job, cleaned out their bank accounts and went back to Russia. In this case, he got what he deserved.
I realize some of them may not be scammers, but I do think most of them are. And I think it's because some of these guys don't like the independent spirit of American women and basically want someone to take care of them who can't/won't complain to anyone. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:14:21 AM | | If it works then it works. It's everybody's preference. And just because a guy decides to do that doesn't make her a prostitute. There are many American guys in this country who have a hard time finding the right one. I'm sure they would prefer an American woman, but for whatever the reason, they are either picky or easily get rejected for a lack of certain qualities. I've for one have heard more great things than bad when foreign women marry American guys. Most foreign women leave their countries for a better life and if that's to marry an American dude than so be it. Everybody deserves happiness and no know should judge them because they feel comfortable going that route. From reading some comments in here, there seems to be more jealously by a few women, who might be the same women that reject a certain kind of guy which forces him to have to look outside the country. More power to the dude who searches for his happiness. God willing. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 8:12:27 AM | The best and most obvious justification for a man to seriously consider finding a foreign 'Mail Order Bride' is the shrill, overdone, almost anger filled, half truth and off target comments put out by some of the women on this thread . . .
If some American women wanted to find and meet a foreign 'Mail Order Husband - then it would just fine and dandy -- what ever can allow happiness to enter her life is what is correct and true.
For every one controlling - overbearing man who is considering a Mail Order Bride or has already got one -- there are FIVE quite normal men who are considering it or have already married that fine educated, talented loving woman from Russia, Ukraine, Lativa, etc., etc.
A man who is fool enough to not perform the due diligence required in checking out all aspects of future mail order bride will be the same fool who would fail to do it when meeting and marrying a American or Canadian woman he meets in a singles group or on-line.
There are about 6000 Mail Order Bride Marriages in the U.S. every year and have been since the middle '90's. The failure rate is no greater than marriages brought about by Personal Ads and Match Making / Dating sites like POF.
The truth hurts - Read Dr. Laura's "The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands" and maybe you find a good man. Men seek in a woman - kindness, moral support, acceptance, cooperation, sexual interest, and many similar things. None of these things have anything to do with submission or subservience - just decent loving treatment.
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 8:21:19 AM | From what I have observed the mail order bride business is a growth industry. I have seen a lot of guys who are not exactly attractive both physically and mentally with some pretty hot and young foreign women lately. In pretty much all cases they seemed like a happy couple. I think I heard statistically that these marriages actually have a really high success rate.
It was a freaky concept not long ago but the world is a smaller place now. I would even consider it myself if I could figure out how to get my foot in the door and had a clear understanding of the cost. I am not a typical American guy so a typical American girl does not work for me. I have spent some time in Europe and have more friends over there then here. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 8:23:01 AM | bona with attitude like yours you better check into seeing if there is a mail order groom. In case you haven't figured it out on your own the term mail order bride is a hold over from the past. So yep you are going to need to educate yourself.
Now as far as the cosmetically challenged remark? Get a life.
Lets see what you look like without all of the modern beauty enhancements available.
If you don't like what I look like then the answer is simple, don't look.
I purposely picked this pic. Mainly to keep the shallow people at bay. This end of the pond is a apparently a little deep for you . | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 8:57:26 AM | | the funny part of the topic is this. M.O.B. are not what they seem on the surface i happpend to hear something about it on N.P.R and even now i dont pretend to know the half of it. But this is what gets me. Why call them sex slaves ect. i mean last time i check there were plenty of women here who would date you for money and do all that garbage i mean there is a dating site called sugar daddies common now. For the women that means one less guy that you would have more than likely turn down for the other guys one less competitor in this already seemingly over crowded pool of bachlors. Its one of the few times it is win win for everyoone | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:26:45 AM | I love winding people up - Im sorry DrG1301 - I honestly thought that your picture was a joke - Im so sorry x
And I dont need a mail order groom my love - I already have a partner who is not cosmetically challenged and is very mentally stimulating - dont you just hate people who have the whole package?
- never mind DrG1301 your half way there! lol
Love your comments about the modern beauty enhancements x you crease me up darling x he's a modern day beauty treatment you should maybe try - Soap and water! lol you grubby little thing x
At the end of the day the random intellectual person on here would agree that everyone is searching for the same thing in life - to be happy with someone they love and are loved by. Its a little shallow and a quite funny that men AND women think that their soulmate is going to exist ONLY in another country.
you cant generalise a WHOLE country by a couple of bad relationships with the wrong people.... Wake up everyone... this is kinda sad isnt it? | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:28:15 AM | Good people and bad people come from everywhere , online and catalogs make the pool bigger , some characteristics in people can no longer be easily found in this country, people here care too much about certain things that in other countries is not even noticed or just given very little priority or vice versa , cultures are all different , some seem more family oriented others more career and self .
mmm yes there is alot of tension because of hearsay , conjecture etc... people make up stuff as they go. learn about it a little more before burning it down , where do you think you are at ? this is like mail order exactly but much closer or mmm if I write to a woman for months or a year , is she not like a mail order bride ? In a catalog form ? This is out catalog , what the herll is the difference beteen here a woman from canada and a girl from lets say asia or africa for example , everybody who has something negative are saying people from other countries are morally , intellectually and self woth inferior to us , we the people who speak english or some other 1 st world accepted language , I have been there and done that.
My father out of the vietnam war wanted to find himself a wife , he saw too much free love , promiscuity, lack of traditional values and he being ethnically mexican but a 5th generation californian us american , he was shunned a bit more and was not tall , but had a great job and hobbies, had some money ... he turned to a mail order bride my mom, he found a beautiful girl , he was 30 she was 21 with movie star looks and was from an upper middle class family that had some grocery stores . My dad was not beauty challenged , well now he is , old and saggy but my mom still really pretty .
The married and had 8 kids ...MY mom was always in charge of the house and finances , she would tell my dad she was there to lessen his burden and all he had to do was to work and come back home, he later taught her to drive and paid for her college .
we never EVER saw them fight ever ever , always like best of friends and with 8 kids that is hard to hide if they ever had a fight after all these years .
All of us (children ) asked them how they met .... they were both in a catalog and he wrote to her for 56 months before visiting her ,
They did not get married in love , they said that came later after overcommming being friends with attraction.
They adore eachother , when my mom is gone for days visiting family a thousand miles away my dad seems lost and moody , and when he is gon my mom is all worried calling him everyday when is is out camping or something .
I had alot of problems in school being cronically geeky and socially challenged , I was the skinny little runt with thick glasses that got beat up everyday , never got a date in high school , not even after contacts and a sister made make over .
I did what my dad did , I really did not want to do it , it seemed desperate, I was 19 a dateless virgin, I was treated like a leaper by american women ,
So I bought a paper catalog that had women all over the world including usa women, I tried USA women but I guess my napoleon dynomite looks did not impress them , I wrote to a mexican girl that lived close by at the otherside of the border , she was dirt poor , made only 50 bucks a weeks , lived alone and had no living family , she was 18 , yes great candidate for getting usa papers and leaving me poor , yeah that is what you think ? I chose what I wanted and what was good for me in the catalog , I contacted many of them at 20 bucks a pop to the catalog company .
We got married 2 years later , she never moved from mexico, she wanted me to move down there and I did and crossed the border everyday to work , she had me buy cheap dirt land and we built a house , I was a poor janitor at the time , she was a jewel , helped me save money , motivated me to go to college and even helped in several ways so I could get the job I have now , she built my house, by contracting workers , she was the architect for my house down there .
Everyday she would bring junk from a second hand store or garbage and refurbish furniture , she did not spen my money and again we never fought, she was my best friend, my surfing companion , my car show painter and upholsterer, she was my partner, she died 3 years ago in a san diego hospital , I have no regrets .
Her last words was I love you , I will be gone soon , find another to love , you deserve not to be alone.
Yes those women are not hookers as some jealous women state here , they are like you and me .... people who one day want to be happy , with some scammers imbedded , this site also has scammers or are they all perfect.
I do not want to do the foreign woman thing again , I no longer want to be reminded of my departed wife , I want an american girl , so far I date alot but most women I find are unacceptable for a relationship, anger issues , personality issues because of being spoiled , materialism to the extreme, some want to make a family until past 30 .
SOme are so used to having sex with so many men and with no concience that it worries me about fidelity , I am very faithful , single and no sex married and sex .
Another part , no one is in charge of teaching about running a house and rearing children, I see a big mess in usa peoples houses very often , offensive children and alot of fighting, it is about how the parents men and women are educated about family , they no longer are .
My brother married a nice girl , regular american girl , he is a great guy , warm hearted and easy going , he is stressing out , he cooks cleans , takes care of the 2 children and goes to work at night because his wife says that she is not his slave, not the beaver cleaver woman but independent and liberated , he cooks dinner every night , works at night, she has been unfaithful and he forgives , he is a though handsome strong guy , he complains about his wife never being there for home and family , always working her career, he told me he with stick to her until death but he is dying inside , he wished he would have gotten a wife like mine , easygoing , not emotionally bruttal like his wife .
Not saying that mail order is all nice and perfect but it gives more choices, no one really of quiality looks for a slave partner , we want to look for a best friend and lover not one that seeks to control and stomp us down becuse of an agressive power struggle like first world americans have been taught, my wife bossed me around for the most part but she was so pleasant , sweet and caring , I could never say no to her . <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:34:51 AM | OK this is how it works, you find someone you want to meet and you write one another VIA a interpreter, after awhile you have to fly over to meet them, after meeting them several times you have to contact the US consulate and the Russian consulate, as well the Lady that wants to come back here has to get a Physical and a clean bill of health,
You have to pay for all of this Once this is done you have to wait for the US to allow her a Marriage Visa then she can come over to the US So in reality there is no SO called mail order they come here you marry them.
So much paper work and so much money to be shelled out.
There was a Special on TV about this and they explained it all I watched because i was curious as to the whole thing, (Not that i could ever afford this because i am a poor man).
The majority of the Russian women they interviewed was if you was a Russian man and u got married or just got her pregnant and he left there is no child support...
it is all on the woman over there there is no child support court...
So women over there want Guys here they are happy for the most part because the guy takes care of them they don't care if they have to stay home, and he makes the money because they are taken care of along with there kids ... and they don't really worry about looks,
why would they if you have enough money to Fly to Russia 10 times or more to get her here you got enough money to support her... Also they interviewed the men that went there as well they said going there was like going to a bar full of women and u was the only guy so in part he said he could get laid 4-5 times a day just dating the women that wanted a guy here.......
No i am not saying that there is not some gold diggers it happens everywhere and the whole idea mail order is almost like this site, I live in the US if i meet someone in Canada and the cost of meeting them and working to get them a marriage Visa is the same there is always rules and so the saga continues People making fun of someone doing this but in reality we are sorta doing the same thing at times.......
sddude Sorry to Hear about you wife and hope you Find someone like her again<B/>
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:40:09 AM | From what I have observed, guys who lack social skills and cannot get along with women of their own culture seem to resort to mail order brides. Women who feel trapped in their own countries, use these marriages as a way to escape.
Case in point: there is a guy who I have known for over 30 years (a friend of friends), alcoholic, lived off and on with his parents, and could not hold a job. The good thing that you can say about him is that he has skiied a lot during the winter and has surfed all over the world. We used to crack jokes that his middle age crisis would be settling down and getting married.
In his mid-forties, he married a twenty-five year old Filipina (who is bright and fun) and then worked on bringing her over here. They are still trying to bring her son from a previous relationship over here. In the meantime, she has been known to take off for days at a time, he managed to get them evicted from an apartment, got arrested for drunk driving, but...she has her green card. My friends are always saying that she really earned it. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:49:09 AM | | I feel the old saying of "buyer beware" applies well here. The fact that someone is buying a spouse and we are even talking about the concept on a free date site is ironic. When you "import" someone then I have to wonder what else you end up "importing" when they end up arriving? My bf's brothers have foreign based wives that they met through foreign exchange student programs locally. At least they got to know them some before they ended up with each as a spouse and they already speak english too.Not as likely at risk of culture shock in becoming an american. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:50:42 AM | Well after carefully reading all the forums on this particular subject It seemed to me that American women are terrible terrible awful creatures that dont deserve happiness and a mate at all ,, I mean good lord we work like dogs, bring up the kids,cook and clean after working at that wonderful career all day, we take care of the man of the house when he has a cold and go to work when we have one, we hand over paychecks (when he decides he has to have that motocycle) we make love when its been a 18 hr day and we have 15 min of energy left,,, yeah we are a rotten group of women,, i say fire all of us,, then we can become the pampered housewifey pets to some guy from across the pond that thinks we are beautiful, courageous,dedticated and all we have to do is 2 hrs of house work and shop,,,, sounds wonderful,, I want to be mail ordered where do i sign up??    | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 9:52:52 AM | googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!googleit!
if there is anything you want to know look it up in google man!
there are sites to purchase
there are stories and all that good stuff!!!
so yes it does happen and yes the internet is for more than just porn! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 10:02:59 AM | THERE is no Difference in mail order bride and dating site you pay no matter what this site is free but if someone lives 200 miles from you,,, it still means you are paying to go see them if you get married it still means you have to pay to get them moved , it still means if they have kids that you provide for the kids as well,, so Mail order is not different just more expensive.... so lets look at it like this say you was on Vacation in France and you meet someone and fell in love and wanted to get married you are still going to have to go through the same as a mail order bride.... now on here you meet someone you talk via e-mail then on the phone Basiclly this is mail order because you did not meet in person at 1st you meet on the internet..... you call it internet dating but it is really mail order
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 10:36:34 AM | | One angle to consider depending on your age and location is foreign students. Here in the Seattle area we have a ton of foreign students and more coming in everyday. Most run into money and immigration issues and eventually start looking for an American to help them out. If you are willing a nice relationship could form from this. In fact this is the master plan with many foreign students. You just have to find the right one. Some do plan to go back home with a good education but still need the help. In this case its just a friendship and they might or might not be a problem. Good friendships can form from this. Foreign people can make very good and loyal friends. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 10:44:37 AM | | Dude that post was awesome!!!!! brought tears to my eyes and gave me a new perspective! im sorry for your wife! and that sux about your brother! | |
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