sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 10:51:12 AM | Still it seems that some of the responses that women have given , still do not understand or close their eyes and ears not to understand , dating is much harder for guys beleive it or not , from trying to date plain janes or pretty hotties , a guy goes to a bar , women are like 1 for each guy and they have a better pick for a guy, sometimes I have left a bar without even being able to talk to a girl , the women want really good looking guys becuase the ratio makes it good for them , here on this site , I probably would not believe a guy who can say he gets one message a week for a year from a woman , women here also are the same as the ones in a bar , 5 guys for each girl and waaaaay more mails that guys do , women RARELY initiate contact or for me never get initiated , RARELY get responses to my many mails to them , to most in my area.
Ok and women here are wondering why guys look to other countries , why7 complian if you do not persue or initiate to get guys , why even complain if a guy goes elsewhere for beter luck ? Do you care that guys want to be happy or are you in an anti happy compain ? Why piss on the parade , if women here are sooo perfect why does divorse exist in a high rate ? All men's fault , we are all horrible idiots and are the cause of divorce ? We bad guys and good guys , just want to be happy , I have gotten only 2 mails in 2 years , how many of you women have gotten mails at that low rate , even the sex ones count , guys would like to get sex offers too .
Okay how can american women fix it so guys will not look elsewhere ? But you claim we are losers, bad men looking for slaves , why do you care anyhow? Afraid that the guy you like but never contact will go and look for that young nice respectful family oriented 25 year old versus an american women that are very difficult to contact and do not initiate anything because of competition ?
I have no luck on the net , I have pretty good luck in the real world but women in this country for the most part are not really family oriented no matter how much you can state that you take care of family and home , duh yeah , when you have kids and divorced a guy , that is what you HAVE to do , guys like me just want a woman who would like to do that ... be family oriented and brought up like that , I am family oriented , I do the house work and even babysit for some female friends that date other guys because they are taller and better looking than I .... so I look outside also like some other gents around here ,
If I am 40 one day and still single , I would not think twice in marrying a woman of any age as long as she loves me and wants a family and it would probably be a woman from another country because that kind of woman is getting rare in this country, unless she already has kids and needs help . | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 1:03:19 PM | Well, I guess if the man marries her - it is ok. I know it is a lot cheaper then taking a sex trip once or twice a year to Thailand!!! or wherever!!! Ain't it a ****- love makes the world go round....I just recently got my new electronic passport, and what can I say--bon voyage....!!! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 1:18:18 PM | I have a hunch that the men who are the mail order brides husband are fat, overweight, abusive men with very bad hygiene ...who are very unattractive and authoritarian...
and that is much of why they have to go to such extremes to get a woman as to order her. I am betting not one of those men who order the brides are good looking, likable guys who are mentally and physically balanced.
Those men are more likely to be pretty bad as no women in a 2000 mile radious is interested  | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 1:36:15 PM | All these women who have hunches and other misconceptions just are not getting it.
What is the difference between meeting some one on this site from another country or if you meet someone on another site that is from another country. Sooner or later you still have to meet.
I mean damn it is not like a person picks up a catalog, makes a call and says yes I would like item # 7777777 please charge it to my credit card. SSSHHHEEEEEESSSHHHH
Come on get real and get a life. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:23:41 PM | DRG
Yes they Don't get Some will and some will not but in the end they the ones that don't get it think they are better... Well let me look at this for a sec
Women all have hair they all have eyes they all have arms legs feet toes hands and Brain But the one thing they do not have is compassion and a Heart!!! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:42:16 PM |
I have a hunch that the men who are the mail order brides husband are fat, overweight, abusive men with very bad hygiene ...who are very unattractive and authoritarian...
and that is much of why they have to go to such extremes to get a woman as to order her. I am betting not one of those men who order the brides are good looking, likable guys who are mentally and physically balanced.
Those men are more likely to be pretty bad as no women in a 2000 mile radious is interested
Nope. You could not be more narrow minded and plain wrong. But then if you cling to silly stereo typical views like that.......well........
Three of my friends have married women from overseas in the past ten years. All of them are very happy, and they married women from Thailand, China, Phillipines cause those women were free of the hangups you find in most western women. I met all of these women and none of them are golddiggers, desperate immigrants, or sex slaves as the other stereotypes tend to go. In fact I would say the relationships they have are amongst the healthiest marrieages I have witnessed.
Now I dont deny that some men do fit the stereo type "icky" man that some women seem to envision -- but its not the norm. Guess it just bugs a lot of North American women when men have to outsource for happiness
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:46:36 PM | I worked with many of those mail order brides when I was in the states. Apparently you need to get yourself a mail order bride since you seem to want to learn the hard way  | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:54:03 PM | Wow! I know the American CEOs are outsourcing jobs because they feel domestic labor is too expensive...
Is the American male turning to outsourcing for female companionship for the same reasons?
Almost sounds like that, doesn't it? | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 2:54:30 PM | | Well I am in Canada -- so I guess we get the Grade A choices first. Takes a special kind of personality to want to come and live here amongst the igloos anyhow | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 3:26:28 PM | I wrote so many women in Russia and Ukraine. If you think all you have to do is to order a woman and have her sent here think again.
I watched a special on the Discovery channel about Russian woman and different from here the women out numbered the men about 20 million.
Guys being guys That have their pick of so many different women sometimes don't treat women the same. That is one reason the women are looking else where.
Most of the women that I talked to knew 3 to 4 languages so the language thing wouldn't have been the problem.
This is really going to cofuse a lot of people but when I ask have you ever thought of coming to the USA most said that they would rather me come over there and live.
You talk to an honest woman about leaving everything she knows. Her family ,home, friends and job just to come over here believe me if they do it won't be because they want a green card.
I wiil say to the men that have thought about this that its more than just pick one out and have her sent here.There is so much red tape anymore you would not believe it.Plus you will have to go over there or you won't be able to get her a visa to come over here.
Another thing I wouldn't advise ever telling a woman from Russia or Ukraine anything about you thinking she was a mail order bride. You might get your ass kicked!! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 3:32:47 PM | My brother has a mail order bride. I have friends that are mail order brides. I have aggressively looked into a mail order bride for myself. So heres the truth....
Men seek women from other countries because they can not find what they are looking for in America. Call them foul names, degrade them, ridcule them all you like. YOUR NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM.
Just like I'm not good enough for 99% of the women on this site. But I'm a catch to 99% of women from third world counties. Which makes me feel good. Do I realy need more of a reason than she wants ME??!!!
So, heres how it works....
You look for and find a women that you want to marry. You contact her and talk alot to her. Just like here. There has to be something there for both of them. You have to talk alot. Once you build a connection with her, its time to meet her. JUST LIKE HERE. You fly over, because they haven't built a bridge yet. You stay there for more than 2 days. ( Required by the US Imigration.) While your there you and your bride to be goto the Consolate and file for a marriage visa. She then must be tested to STD's and other medical conditions. Once she completes and passes all these test, she can fill out the application.
You come home with reciepts for your trip to prove you went. You then must meet certain conditions in order to file the paperwork over here to complete the application. One of the requirements is that you have proof of income equaling 125% of the poverty level for the last 3 years. Once you complete all of the paperwork you have to sign a declaration that you'll be resoncable for her until she gets her citizenship. The marriage is bound by the laws of the state you live in.
If the marriage doesn't work before she gets her "card". She has to go back. If she is a citizen, then DUHHHHHH.
Where you look for a bride is a big deal. Russian women are not as materialitic as other countries. Philipino women are all about the dollar. Its in there nature. The Prez of the Philipines is a women. China has some very good women too. But the have very strong ties to there family. So you can expect them to go home once a year for a few weeks at a time. Japan has some very well rounded women. But its far more difficult to get them to America.
Now, for those women who are pissin' in the pants mad at me, tough crap. Where I find love is my business not yours.
For the guys wondering if I am looking for a mail order bride. I'm not. I'm just looking for friendship on here, its hard to take a Russian women to dinner if ya gotta fly there. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 4:05:50 PM | You want to know the most humorous thing that I have noticed on this thread.
For most of us this is just another subject to discuss. but
All of the who women who are acting so pissed off about the subject.
Like for one that will make a bit of difference to someone serious about finding a overseas bride and two like it is stealing something from them personally. Many of them act as if they have control over what site a person looks for their match on. Wee bit of a controlling personality there IMHO | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 4:14:07 PM | I think it is easier to control a woman when you control her pocketbook, economic means of survival..
European women are the freaking best women on the planet .
well, in your opinion..
They are still women and they know what a man is .
is a man the guy who beats them when they get 'out of line' ?
They are not all me me me all the time !!!!
I should move back.
Hundreds of flights leaving daily, don't let anyone here stop ya!
waah, waah, waah, it's SO MUCH better where I come from, I should go back..
a Clue? : no-one wants to hear it!
And they are thin for the most part too , they know the value of staying sexy... | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 4:19:23 PM | My take on mail order brides is that there are many women in Eastern Europe and Russia that are truly in dire straights and looking for a better life. I had the opportunity to visit these Countries Last Year. WOW it's a different world. As somebody else responded it is very true that the Women there are far more submissive and depend on Men a lot. However in these Countries the women can't find a good man because of controlling men and there are so many Male Alcoholics there.
I think it is a business and like anything, there is good and bad no matter where in the world. I do believe there are good woman there that are sincere but if you get a chance to get to know a woman there, they might lead you on and bleed their hearts to you and in the end scam you for money.
Sadly, I know of this as I corresponded with a woman there a couple of years ago and we wrote for a couple of months and she was so good at manipulation. She first told me she could not write me anymore because the Internet Cafe' where she supposedly went needed money for her to continue to use there service. I asked her who I can send the money to (as I was somewhat suspicious already). She told me that it was better to send it to her directly. CLUE !. I didn't send the money and some how we still corresponded as she said the Internet Cafe' was very nice and gave her credit. I offered to send her a Computer of her own (Fed Ex) and she denied it and said money would be better to send. Some time elapsed and she said she wanted to come and see me in Canada. I offered to buy the ticket here for her. She then said she needed $1,500.00 for passport and papers to come. She once again said please send me the money. We then never talked again. I went this far as I always wanted to give her the benefit of doubt. Better to find out now.
So in short , if anyone gets into mail order brides, do not send money overseas.
Always check the Mail Order Brides Company on the Net and the history. There are a lot of sites out there that will give reputations. But I am sure some are very sincere. Just my experience and if this helps anybody or can avoid anyone getting hurt both Emotionally and Financially. Just be very cautious if you persue this Avenue.
Good Luck
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 4:50:55 PM | For the most part I am not against it but it is an area where those who abuse it give it a bad name for everybody else.
In some ways it's like sponsoring someone you may have met by chance on an overseas trip and fallen in love. In others it's a way for men (the topic is brides) to hold a form of power over a vulnerable person's head.
There are so many parts of the world where poverty is so extreme that although the myth about the streets of 'America' being paved with gold may be just that - a myth - it's a damn good deal for many women.
That is where guys can get used too. Some people just want a ticket in. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:06:07 PM | | I work with a guy from Georgia who got a bride from Russia. He spent $thousands$, and I think he was out of his mind. Another guy from Alabama commented that he wouldn't even consider buying a horse if he couldn't see it first. No wonder Jeff Foxworthy can't run out of redneck material! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:12:07 PM | The horse to a bride analogy just doesn't cut it. a person is searching for a bride and not for a race horse.
You don't own your S/O.
People on here talk about long distance relationships and the costs so harping on the cost is not going to get anyone anywhere. There is costs associated with a long distance relationship and it doesn't matter if it is the UK,Australia or Russia. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:15:13 PM | | drg why does it make you call people controlling since they do not agree with you? I personally would RUN.. and I mean RUN if I ever met any man who had a mail order bride as a wife... if he is married to her or even divorced from one.. and especcially if he had one who died or disapeared... the fact is most women would. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:30:27 PM | jen If someone tells people that they are only allowed to make certain types of posts that is controlling.
If someone is not able to accept and acknowledge that people have differnt views that is also controlling. Especially when they have no choice in the matter and try to control anyway.
OK jen. I want you to tell me what is the difference between two people on this site in different countries meeting and starting a long distance relationship leading to marriage and someone finding someone on another site meeting someone from another country having a LDR that leads to marriage?
There is not a single bit of difference except for your perception.
Someone who is so narrow minded I would not want to meet anyway. and I would be the one running. | |
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blee
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Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 97 | |
| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:34:33 PM | You guys as in MEN are pretty stupid if you think you need to sink 20K into an agency to find you a girl.
I was in Asia 2 weeks ago and man there are alot of very attractive educated woman (university degrees sometimes 2) and all they want is a normal guy. If you can't handle the woman in North America and your a again NORMAL guy (You treat ladies with respect, i,e, your not a wife beater) looks aren't weighed upon as heavily over there. Just your ability to bring home the bacon... and again let me stress these woman are not gold diggers they have jobs they have lives.
Just for reference... I was there for a wedding where my best friend a "white" guy was marrying an Asian girl that he dated for 3 years.
BTW a word of warning... the punishment for rape/murder in China is death by firing squad I kid you not. Oh ya they also bring in the local high school kids to watch when they blow your brains our as a lession in life works wonders. Again no need to worry if your a normal guy.
If your serious I suggest you take a trip over to scout it out... Don't expect on coming back married on the first trip. This post is refering to a real lasting relationship which takes time... if you come back married and get your house cleaned you deserver everything you got my friend. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/30/2007 7:37:20 PM | Mail order? My take? 20%
depending on volume.
Oh you mean what do I THINK?
Oh.
That depends on the return policy doesn't it?
Is there a hidden service charge?
Someone check my calendar.
I think my effin time machine worked!!! | |
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