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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 1:04:07 AM | Hey Sddude - why dont you tell us your life story?
I'll educate you a little shall I? - As anatomynurse correctly said - Women in westernised states work like dogs - holding down jobs, bringing up the children, cleaning the house, looking after their man... for what? Really? I mean for what?
If a mail order bride is your thing then so be it. Each to their own. It doesnt mean that because we ladies have a certain view on it, that they are jealous. Jealous of what? I dont understand? Jealous of being bought by a man who practically doesnt know me? that would scare the life out of me, unless Im poor as hell and wanna be bought and paid for by some rich western gentleman - then yeah id advertise myself in a catalogue too - lol
You have some strange ideas - It takes years to really know and learn about someone,
how can you possibly do this by catalogues and through an interpreter? lol
The thing is - in this society, you cant possibly demand what you cant provide yourself.
So the answer is simple - Pay for it.
Or in 'lamen's' terms - If your pig ugly and no woman with a brain wants to be seen with you, buy yourself a drop dead gorgeous one who'll be happy to just get out of her country!
Bobs yer uncle! lol | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 2:54:04 AM | I ended up talking to one on here, didn't know it at the time. Responded to a pretty normal looking profile of an asian looking woman in a nearby small town. The email back asked for a few basic pieces of info, which I gave, then I got a return letter saying it was a guy who was acting like her go between and she was in the phillipines or somesuch. Wanted my email and/or msn. By then the flags were up so I said I would think about it. A day later the profile was gone.
I know two people who went over to the phillipines strictly for finding wives and while I don't know the second wife well the first one is a very well educated person. She was a nice person until too many years with the guy, who is an ex-druggie dirtball type, so now his meanspirited, entitled, small minded attitude has worn off onto her as well. Oh, and he is back to using drugs. They have two children together. No american woman would tolerate him so it worked for him.
Thing I wonder is what she would be like today had she not been with him. She was really nice in the beginning. Educated as a teacher, smart as a whip, very adaptable, flexible thinker. Then I didn't see them for years. Now she is just bitter and thin skinned. Petty minded, like him.
She got to America but I'd say she paid a significant price for her citizenship by putting up with him.
But I don't see why this has to be the story for all brides. I am sure there are some worse and some much better. I think this guy got far better of a woman than he ever deserves and she got worse than she deserves. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 3:12:42 AM | If two people find a way to be happy, who cares how they meet?
This is how I see it, I have absolutely no reason to be upset if someone doesn't want me and wants to look somewhere else for something that will make them happy. Why should I care? Life is short. Why be pissy about someone who isn't interested in me when I can spend my time and energy into someone who is interested in me?
If I meet someone and I'm not interested in them and they tell me they prefer to date women from overseas, well ok. Why should I care? I don't want them anyway. Why waste the energy to be upset about it?
If I meet someone and I am interested in them and they tell me they prefer to date women from overseas, well ok. Why should I care? Yes it might be disappointing to have someone you are interested not reciprocate, but so what? You just wish them well and good luck and move on and try to find a situation that does make you happy and will work for you.
I was fortunate enough to travel a great deal when I was younger and I can tell you - good people and worthless people come in all shapes and sizes and backgrounds and countries. I think it's insulting to people on this site who might not be from America to casually label them all as a bunch of greencard seeking money grubbing ignorant uneducated whores. I'm sure some are, I'm sure some are not.
You do realize there are lots of places in the world that think Americans are a just a bunch of arrogant fat lazy ungrateful pigs right? The fattest people in the world are in America. Just as easily as you can call someone a green card loving slut, she might decide to call you a worthless future fatty based on what she might have seen and read about Americans. Would you like people around the world to label you that way? So why do it to them?
Here's a not so hidden secret - people want to date people who make them happy. And that can happen any number of ways. And if it's not you that makes them happy, then just deal with it and move on. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 3:41:09 AM | Why is it considered as narrow-mindedness if someone has a fixed opinion on something? Isnt it just their opinion?
If men want to purchase ladies from oversea's then so be it. Its up to them, they are trying to find something that makes them happy thats all and if they have to pay for a woman to marry them because they are so illequiped to get one for free - let them! lol
Bless their cotton socks!
Talking of which - I dont think any shallow people are gonna be coming anywhere near you DrG1301 so I think you can put your running shoes safely back in the cupboard love lol | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 3:51:09 AM | | Never thought about it much. One semi interesting aspect is that women don't "mail order" husbands to the same extent. Is that becuase most economic power still lies with men; or because women are more intelligent; or some other reason? | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 4:06:00 AM | I dont think its got anything to do with economic power to be honest. I think its to do with making do. I really believe that men are more driven by sex than women. Same reason there arnt a great deal of women that go to male prostitutes I think. It just doesnt happen. Too much testosterone and too much cash -thats the problem! lol
Live and let live I suppose - each to their own...
(I know this is generalising and stereotypical but I cant help it im sorry... but you always see a drop dead gorgeous looking filipino/thai lady with dead ugly blokes dont yer? lol)
Id want paying to be honest - its gotta be said lol | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 5:01:57 AM |
dont think any shallow people are gonna be coming anywhere near you DrG1301 so I think you can put your running shoes safely back in the cupboard love
Well that is the reason that I went to the trouble to pick that one picture, but thanks for confirming it for me/ your experience helps.
Now just where do you get the idea that people are purchasing a bride if they come from another country?
All of you ladies in the UK,Australia and Canada. Sorrry about her perception, what can I say? | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 5:55:39 AM | Mail orders take 2 years in Australia to turn into the lazy, nagging, ****ing, no housework, women are equal nutcases that guys who mail order were trying to avoid in the first place.
I mean if men wanted equals we would marry another man, we just want someone to cook, clean and sleep with. Unfortunately this is way too much for the modern woman who puts career first and having a family last. I laugh hard when I see these mid 30's women hitting the biological panic button and wondering why no man is interested in them despite them being a successful business woman. They just have not worked out that they have none of the qualities men are looking for, youth, beauty, fertility and obedience.
Anyhow I have to go back to responding to my fan mail.  | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 7:56:13 AM | Dear sddude:
WHAT A GREAT STORY about your father and I am glad you found happiness with your wife - at least for a while.
Your post says it all about so called Mail Order Brides - it is such a positive wholesome story.
Good luck in finding another wife - you deserve it.
Many people on this thread are not paying attention that in the old west in the mid 1800's give or take 30-50 years - Mail Order Brides from Back East were very common and helped settle the Western U.S. and most people considered it a very good thing.
For women who think MOB is a bad idea then they should be more out reaching and accepting of the men on POF. Keeping men at arms length as so many POF women do - only causes men to look for other solutions.
Joe | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:11:14 AM | Dear anatomynurse
Without taking a scolding attitude at all - I believe your words are an over reaction. A few posts by men on this thread deserve your response - but most do not.
I was married once - she was a very good woman. I had a 10 year live in and she was a very good woman. I'd just like to find another woman of their caliber - but it takes a receptive mind to do that and I find little reception on POF.
I personally don't have too many complaints about American women - except lack of attention. Men want to rank in a fairly high priority with their wife/girlfriend - but all too often we find we are way down the list. For me - attention, affection, respect, goes a long way. When men can't find these things at home (USA) he just may look elsewhere.
I suspect that many American men feel as I do -- just pay attention to me - interact with me - and that should preclude nagging and writing 'honey do' lists.
It is probably true - some men may not deserve what I describe - but I think I do and so do many other men.
There are too many walls between men and women in the U.S. I just ask women to open some doors through those walls - consider a bit of risk.
Joe | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 7:40:20 PM | Well, I came on this site to see what it was about. My ex boyfriend of
7+ years secretly went on the internet sites and meet a girl from the Dominican Republic on Dominican Brides and others. He chatted with one from the DR and went
to visit and married her the same week. Of course half his age and beautiful. I think the third world country gals are beautiful and desperate. But will it work, time will only tell. However, it will take him over 3 years and lots of money to get her here. She is leaving her 11 year old son to come here with him. I interested in knowing other's opinion. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 8:47:51 PM |
I know a man a few years ago who did this - married a lady from the Phillipines. It was basically a "mail order" situation.
According to him, the reason he did it was because he wanted someone who "acts like a wife" in his words. I was shocked by that statement!
He explained he had met too many women here that don't cook, clean, and spend too much time watching tv .....
WOW I had no idea any man thought like that ... at least to THAT extreme. He is the only person I have heard of anyone who went to that extreme to get married so I don't know if that is the reason other people do it or not.
and no, if you are wondering, they are not still together. She got her citizenship, took his money, and ran off LOL
So much for the perfect wife
This post scares me. Why is it that a man that wants someone as a wife scares you? I had a wife that didn't cook, clean, and spent most of her time watching television. It was a pathetic excuse for a marriage, and she was a pathetic excuse for a woman. She eventually moved on to bigger and better things... like using children to sell drugs at the local elementary school.
If I ever get married again, which is doubtful at this point, I want a wife that is willing to share the household responsibilities, cook, clean and is interested in making my house our home. Anything less is unacceptable. The trade off though is this.... I'll help her be what she wants to be. Care for her. Protect her (this is my choice and your right reguardless if you accept it or not). And be a Husband to her.
So whiel I would not take a mail order bride, I do have to say that if the culture produced women that are not selfish, arrogant and pompous, then I would like to sign up myself, but too many are getting "westernized" and worthless. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 8:52:30 PM |
I dont think its got anything to do with economic power to be honest. I think its to do with making do. I really believe that men are more driven by sex than women. Same reason there arnt a great deal of women that go to male prostitutes I think. It just doesnt happen. Too much testosterone and too much cash -thats the problem! lol
Yes, I agree. Men are driven by sex more than women. I can also tell you that of all of the men that I have ever spoken to that have looked into a mail order bride, their reason is far simpler. They are tired of women treating them like trash, saying that they are sex driven, and trampling on thier hearts to get to their wallets.
Sometimes stop talking at a local restaurant and just listen to the women talking at their tables. It is absolutely horrifiying. I can assure you that no matter HOW pretty she is, if she is cracked and broken and so selfish that she is a miserable burden, then I most assuredly don't want her. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 8:59:49 PM |
If men want to purchase ladies from oversea's then so be it. Its up to them, they are trying to find something that makes them happy thats all and if they have to pay for a woman to marry them because they are so illequiped to get one for free - let them! lol
The question you really have to ask is this. What is it about american women that is so bad that they go out of the country to find a wife. I researched this once for a while. Almost every one of them I met said about the same thing. AMerican women are selfish, self centered, think of themselves above everyone else, and have no skills to bring into the marriage. One guy even went as far as to say that his wife was more useful to and respectful of her boss at work than she was of him. I think he actually saind something like this... her bos tells her to jump and she jumps. He asks her to do something and the first thing out of her mouth is "Who do you think you are? My boss?"
They are divorced now. She blames him. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 9:05:34 PM |
If men want to purchase ladies from overseas then so be it
So in other words if a guy meets a woman on a web site and she is from another country then he is purchasing her.
What? Do you truly believe that they don't correspond, meet and decide from there? It is not as cut and dried as you would like to believe. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 9:13:03 PM | | There are Mail Order Brides (Matchmaking services) even now. It is not illegal and many a woman that was sick of the dating game has given herself to one of the services to stop the cycle. When you go into a marriage with a commitment that no matter what (except abuse) you are going to tough it out, then you get a good marriage. ALso, most of these "serives" amke sure that there is a structure in the household that the woman is going into. Without a structure, there is no stability. With no stability, there is no peace. Without peace, the marriage will not last. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/6/2007 9:25:28 PM | When speaking about cross culture marriages, there is an interesting trend: a relationship between a man from the USA and a woman from Australia is an "international relationship", yet a relationship between the same man and a woman from Russia is a "mail order brides" thing.
Only difference being the persons country of origin. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/7/2007 7:32:20 PM | | You are so wrong. When a relationship gets tough as a man ages, in my experience he has problems addressing it, as does women. Especially when it comes to sex. I do think this can be overcome if you can communicate. But in my case, it was a situation that, I guess in our society we do not want to talk about. A foreign person can make a man feel just what he needs. It is sad, that men and women cannot speak what they think. Communication is very important. I do not think that a woman you met on the Internet and then, maybe meet and marry is going to bring bliss to any couple. If you cannot communicate here, what makes you think it will happen with a foreigner? When you give up on a long-term relationship, you just change one set of problems for another (of course after the honeymoon is over). Especially when you have to be the one and only provider. I think men to get trapped by this Internet dating thing and not realizing what and cost it is going to take before it is to late. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/7/2007 7:59:52 PM |
I think men to get trapped by this Internet dating thing and not realizing what and cost it is going to take before it is to late.
Thats strange! I could of sworn that this was a internet dating site. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/7/2007 8:23:28 PM | | I'd like a deaf mute mail order man from sweden . Or better yet a robotic male . Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez what an idea . He could clean make me dinner and speak when spoken to . I'd never have a headache . EVER ! | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/7/2007 8:25:14 PM | A friend's cousin, a nice, not bad looking, very lonely guy purchased a wife from an Eastern block country- no sooner was
she here and married- then the sex stopped- she turned into his spoiled daughter- then whenever he would get angry and
threaten to end the relationship, she would have sex with him so that he calmed down. Two years to the day- she was
gone with everything and it's a frigging nightmare for him financially on top of feeling like an idiot, on top of being lonely
and horney again. Not a good scene. I know another man who ended up with a woman from England who came here to the U.S.
after promising to have his child- kept pretending to lose the babies, waited two years, ran through a lot of money
and walked out with her green card. It's a jungle out there. | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/8/2007 3:59:25 AM | blanche
no sooner was
she here and married- then the sex stopped- she turned into his spoiled daughter- then whenever he would get angry and
threaten to end the relationship, she would have sex with him so that he calmed down.
That sounds like many of the marriages that originate in this country. So your point is? | |
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| What is your take on mail order brides?
Posted: 6/8/2007 4:14:22 AM | Yeah, right...
With my kind of luck, I'd open the shipping container and get, "Hey baby!...Me so horney!...Me rove you...long time!"
No thanks, I'll pass....  | |
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