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 SteveO19792k9

Joined: 11/29/2008
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Posted: 1/2/2009 9:57:18 PM
Exactly. She told me in the beginning if I was a problem to her she wouldn't date me... so I'm nice, but I still get dumped, LOL! They say they want the nice guy, but when they get him they don't want him. And the guy that treated her the worst was her longest relationship and the one she loved with all her heart. And out of all the ones that I've dated and been in relationships with, the one that I treated the worst is the longest relationship (my ex-wife) and the only one that has wanted me back. But they want the nice guys. AAACHOOO! Oh sorry, I'm alergic to bull****
 WomanInProgress

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Posted: 1/3/2009 8:53:44 AM
^^^This has been said a thousand times already to people who (it seems) just don't want to get it...

If guys would make sure a woman is actually interested in him for who he is before he went all out and tried to impress her, then his results would be better. Plain and simple. Liking a woman IN AND OF ITSELF does not guarantee results....not sure why anyone would think it would.

Pick your women better, guys. It's 2009 - why not kick a new year off with some reality for once?
 SteveO19792k9

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Posted: 1/3/2009 9:17:16 AM
If guys would make sure a woman is actually interested in him for who he is before he went all out and tried to impress her, then his results would be better

-- Kinda hard to do that unless you're psychic, especially when you're being lied to from the start. That's the biggest problem I'm having, not that I'm being rejected or dumped, but being lied to. It's hard to know anything when that's happening. I mean, come on, we're taught as kids that lying is a bad thing.
 JohnC70

Joined: 10/9/2008
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Posted: 1/3/2009 2:08:19 PM
steveo19792k9,the reason why she mentioned moving in and having kids and getting married,was because she was probaly trying to scare you off,I was always told when women start talking like that early on in a relationship then to be extra wary,because most guys don't want to hear those things,she probaly wasn't that into you from jump street,and when she realized she was in over her head she didn't know what to do,so she was probaly intentionally trying to scare you off,trying to make you break it off so to speak because she didn't want to do the dirty work.
 ladyc4

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Posted: 1/3/2009 4:09:01 PM

A woman wants a strong, confident, tough man who talk to her harshly, the guy who doesn't care much of what she does. When you pay too much attention to a woman, she would think she is the only woman you have got. Always show her that you would live with or without her!!!!

1. Show her that without her you will get another woman.

If you talk to me harshly, you will be ENCOURAGED to get another woman and get the fork out of MY life.


2. Surround yourself with cool friends, mostly women. She will see that you are having good time even when she is not around.

If you must rely on ME to provide you with all your fun, you're gonna NEED other friends. I'll be long gone.


3. NEVER be available anytime she wants you. If she wants to go out with you, sometimes tell her you are busy doing your own stuff.

Well, then I'll be busy doing MY OWN STUFF, or maybe doing stuff with some other guy, if you are NEVER available when I want you. What would be the point of a relationship with an absent and unavailable man? To hell with that noise.


4. Don't make promises and keep them all. Break some. Disappoint her. That makes you a man with confidence and options

Nope, it makes you untruthful and unreliable. Women who put up with untruthful and unreliable behavior are usually THEMSELVES untruthful and unreliable. You reap what you sow, dude.


5. Don't return her calls too soon. If you have missed her call, call back after several hours or next day. Tell her that you didn't have a chance to get back to her immediately or tell her that you didn't check your phone.

While recognizing that all adults have LIVES( or should have!) I just don't continue calling a man, a woman, or a business or sevice,who consistently dawdles about returning phone calls.

6.
When you go out, mix it out. Sometimes excuse her to make some calls to your friends. Don't just sit on your ass there for hours while your phone doesn't ring and you don't make calls.
Making and taking nonessential phone calls on a bonafide DATE is just f*ckin' rude. Women worth having as relationship partners do not continue to date a man who has shown himself ignorant of basic good manners.

7. Don't agree to everything she says. OPPOSE and INSIST. She would stop talking and be like: "Ok, ok, fine. What would I do now?" This time you are a winner. A man.
Hey, I LOVE a lively exchange of philosophical viewpoints. But if I start suspecting that a man is being oppositional and difficult as part of some kind of head game, it's over. You LOSE.


8. When you are out with her in places like party, events, DON'T be around her in every move. Women want to have own space, freedom. Keep yourself busy with guys away from her and her group of girl-friends. A woman MUST keep wondering where you are, what you are doing, and what you are thinking. That keeps her in check of you.
Now, I myself do not care to have my date GLUED to me at a party. But I generally date other grownups, so I don't find it necessary to keep wondering where my date is, what he's doing, and what he's thinking.

9. Don't buy stuff to impress. "YOU CANT BUY LOVE"... When you are giving too much stuff, frequent/unnecessary gifts, it is like you are buying her to love you. She may take them and leave you for a guy who gives her NOTHING.

This I agree with. Gifts are given as expressions of thoughtfulness, caring, love. If I feel that a man is trying too hard with gift giving, I will tell him so. I do not accept frequent or expensive gifts from a man who is not in a longstanding and committed relationship with me.

10. Don't say "I LOVE YOU" more often. She knows you love her. Excessive use of it means you are insecure. In some cases, she might think you don't mean it!

If 2 people genuinely love each other, it's impossible to say "I love you" too often. But again I'm speaking of genuine love between adults, not overgrown little boys having temper tantrums.
Cindy O
 jnh456

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Posted: 1/3/2009 7:49:11 PM

jnh456, i know you would go out with me if i am like that. You may publicly say you would, but the truth is you will. I have seen many examples of that.


I'm sorry but you would be wrong. I had a guy try that on me, and he is history. 2 misdemeanors and he was out. You don't know me, or you wouldn't have said that. I just don't put up with any bs, and I'm very upfront with that. If they want to try me, that's okay, but they won't see me again. It's simple for me really, either you want me or not, either you are who you say you are or not, no lying, bsing, game playing, etc., if it happens.



If you had any idea who I am, or what I'm about, you would never have said anything like that. lol... And I'm sure there are women out there that do put up with it, but there are many that don't. Look through the forums, and you will see the ones that won't.
 jnh456

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Posted: 1/3/2009 7:58:20 PM

And out of all the ones that I've dated and been in relationships with, the one that I treated the worst is the longest relationship (my ex-wife) and the only one that has wanted me back. But they want the nice guys. AAACHOOO! Oh sorry, I'm alergic to bull****


You think you are a nice guy, and yet you treated your "wife" worse than any other relationship you have been in? Are you kidding me? Don't you think maybe a nice guy would have treated his "wife" better than anyone else in his life? What a DA!

well, I'm allergic, (which is the correct spelling btw), to DA's, and "most" other women are too. good luck to YOU!
 tonytexas25

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Posted: 1/3/2009 8:46:10 PM
I honestly believe that women like to be treated like crap. I may be wrong but it seems that way to me. All the women that I really liked, and did all the romantic things for, I don't speak to them after the relationship ended. The women I did not care for, treated like crap, I still talk to them even after the relationship ended. I have no clue why it is. If i get the answer I will let you all know.
 jnh456

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Posted: 1/3/2009 9:29:58 PM
^^^^^ all I have to say about that is pfhhht. and lol... and you must not know any women that has any self respect, self esteem, or anything else. Who the hell are you guys dating? No one I would know, oh wait, there is one, and her name is ho ho ho.
 Magic Matt

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Posted: 1/3/2009 9:56:41 PM
Hello everyone, I'm pretty new to this site & thought this forum has lots to offer on all sides - here's my take on 'nice' -

I agree w/most folks here that really, it's about attraction, nice or not-nice; in my exp, doesn't matter...people tell me I'm nice, and I've gotten f***ed over lotsa times - so what? I've also gotten laid alot for it too; had possibilities & results that wouldn't have happened if I was a jerk to them, so it just depends on the vibe of the situation and/or if there's any attraction between you two.
There was one post that pretty much says it all: 'Don't be Mr. Nice Guy, Don't be Mr. ***hole' - if your niceness is about trying to get laid more, the ones who are worth it'll see right through that. Be respectful & real to the deal at the same time - if she likes you, she likes you...if you excite her, you excite her, if you bore her, you bore her. I agree with some who say women like a challenge, and to a particular extent, that's true... recently, however, I knew a dude that took the challenge thing too far (wouldn't give the housekeys back & figured she wouldn't call his bluff), and she dropped his ass like a bad habit...yep, he's SOL.
Some guys have more 'game' then others...it's an energy-thing, really. To say that some dudes aint got no game, well - maybe their 'game' isn't as overtly conspicuous as others, but that's cool. To each their own...
All in all, it's 'win some, lose some' - there's genuinely nice women out there w/ a good head on their shoulders, and there are some sorry-ass clingy losers out there as well - on both sides. Be yourself; if you're a winner, you'll get a winner (a friendly note to all gold-diggers out there; just because he makes huge amounts of money & drives a expensive car doesn't MAKE him a winner...and sure doesn't make YOU one for choosing him either); if you're a loser, you generally WILL wind up w/one..."Don't confuse win or lose", as Ozzy would say ! Nice guys, don't give up, just be real with yourself about what you want in a woman...if she's not down, don't waste your time & move on! Nobody's perfect, but don't be played like a suckah; just chalk it up for 'damage case' and let her be some other guy's problem. 'Nuff said.......
 gentlemindman

Joined: 12/14/2008
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Posted: 1/4/2009 1:30:23 AM
It's like this song.

Music: Hall/Oates
Lyrics: Hall/Oates/S. Allen

She'll only come out at night
The lean and hungry type
Nothing is new, I've seen her here before
Watching and waiting
Ooh she's sitting with you but her eyes are on the door
So many have paid to see
What'd you think? you'd get her for free?
The woman is wild, a she-cat tamed by the purr of a Jaguar
Money's the matter
If you're in it for love you ain't gonna get too far

Oh oh here she comes
Watch out boy she'll chew you up
Oh oh here she comes
She's a maneater
Oh oh here she comes
Watch out boy she'll chew you up
Oh oh here she comes
She's a maneater

I wouldn't if I were you
I know what she can do
She's deadly man, she could really rip your world apart
Mind over matter
Ooh the beauty is there but a beast is in her heart

Oh oh here she comes
Watch out boy she'll chew you up
Oh oh here she comes
She's a maneater

Repeat
 SteveO19792k9

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Posted: 1/8/2009 9:35:44 PM
to jnh456

Yea I would've treated her better but was kinda tough when I found out about her BF she had on yahoo, LOL!

BTW, thanks for correcting my spelling, ha! And I'm actually dating a very lovely girl right now so I think my luck is going good for me, but thanks for the words of encouragement!
 db14445

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Posted: 1/9/2009 12:12:43 AM
Well, its sometimes hard to tell a womens thoughts. Ive seen some girls who end up getting back with some duche bag guys. That weren't attractive at all. Its just once a girl has felt something from someone else its hard to except change. They want the person that they first had a relationship with. Its all about where they are with you in the relationships. Its always easy to end a relationship before it starts it always happens if they feel something but, not enough to want you. A women wants something that they can feel good about themselves. Sometimes you just have to wait and maybe you will get lucky and find the right girl but, it takes time. Thats why when you meet someone right for you don't ever let her go.
 pilatois

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Posted: 1/11/2009 5:02:03 PM
I agree woman do not appreciate nice guy, its like the nicer you are the more they disrespect and take you for granted.
 ck1time

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Posted: 1/13/2009 5:13:27 PM
It's still happening. I was a victim tonite, hit like a lead balloon. It's like, why even offer anything or be nice anymore? You know you're gonna get trounced by ignorance /fear/hatred? Just asking a rhetorical question.
 4lovSake

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Posted: 1/13/2009 7:59:58 PM
I agree, I've notice women on this site in particular like to be seen, like "let me show ass off with hot clothes in the clubs. Let guys see me and let me make them think I'm a cool chick, and sh*@= on them, since I've been hurt and nobody cared" . And also to see how many more guys put them on there favorites list. lol. Thats 90 to 95% of the women online. This site is no different. So fellas, make sure the feelings washington mutual.
 4lovSake

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Posted: 1/13/2009 8:10:18 PM
Yes man, with the idiots they go for. lol. Sometimes its amazing what u see in the world today. Its the ones who has the look that says "I'm gonna treat you bad", tall and ugly guys they go for. Pardon me but I see that alot. At the same time the point being made about the keeping it if its good, is definitely the route anyone should take. Cause I lost out on quite a few.
 -mikem-

Joined: 12/28/2008
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Posted: 1/13/2009 8:19:09 PM
It reverts back to the alpha male theory. It's been that way for a long time.
 ck1time

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Posted: 1/13/2009 9:49:39 PM
"Washington Mutual" LMAO! Now, that's real. Yeah, that's funny bro, real too, & I love the pix w /Pres & spouse, nice ; & it's like, sure we can wait till it all works out, but do we want to? I don't think so! They're getting older too!
Let's go dance w/those seriously hungry mamas, bro!
 divinelady143

Joined: 8/16/2008
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Posted: 1/14/2009 3:47:07 AM
First of all, a woman should not go out with you if she is not attracted to you and give you false hopes. I know some women who say they just want a free dinner. I can buy my own.
Second, sometimes I have found that I have taken a chance and met someone who may not have been exactly my type but they were very kind. There is something very attractive about kindness, manners, thoughfulness and sincerity.
Thirdly, I think these days, finding the right person who doesn't just want friends with benefits is very difficult. What happened to chivalry?
Do not change who you are just because someone took advantage of it. If you find someone again who you think is beautiful, look for the way she sits when she is with you. Turned away or turned towards. Does she look straight into your eyes or away? When you reach for her hand does she find an excuse to use it for something or does she hold on tight. Is she eager to give you a kiss? If not, then she's not really interested. You are right for someone. Just not everyone. Hang in there!
 divinelady143

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Posted: 1/14/2009 3:49:43 AM
Women are always looking for the way they felt when a relationship first began. They go back with the douche bags because they are hoping they will be the way they were when they first met. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen. A lot of people have a tendency to stay with people they shouldn't. Only because change is difficult. I've learned. Get out and take a chance somewhere else. Life is for risk takers.............
 ck1time

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Posted: 1/14/2009 5:01:25 AM
^^Hear, hear. Tell it, sister! Can we hear an Amen? Wiser words are seldom spoken. Thank you, beautiful.
 babygurl47807

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Posted: 1/14/2009 9:14:19 AM
well for me i would feel lucky to have a guy like you i havent found one to just like me for me they all seem to want something of they put you down or beat on you so just take your time she may come around good luck with your life babygurl47807
 divinelady143

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Posted: 1/15/2009 4:18:15 AM
I agree with steveo10792k9, people really do lie alot. I find it so disheartening. Why can't people just be honest and leave others with their dignity intact? Some of us, who really want to believe that people are genuinely good, get caught up in them. Well, I'm not giving up hope that there is still someone who is real, honest, and makes my top ten list. Those are admirable qualities by the way. I'm always looking for people, not necessarily to date, to add to the list. It gives me some faith in mankind!
 ghostsjapan

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Posted: 1/22/2009 6:22:16 PM
I guess I've pretty much said this enough on forums.

99% of women don't really like nice guys,
and the 1% who say they do are lying,
whether they mean to or not.

If you want a woman and you're a 'nice guy', forget it.
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