yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
Msg: 26 | |
| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/25/2004 11:35:57 PM | | just cause I like boob shots doesn't mean I'm a pig..... | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/26/2004 1:27:45 AM | well tezza this forum is for both sexes, why no make a topic that states why do people lie,
instead of men. you make it sound very one sided, like your against men or something.. | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/26/2004 8:12:25 AM | | I don;t think Tezza has a one sided opinion....she probably hasn't been in a situation where a women has outright lied to her and with her experiences, it has been males that have done that. but she is right inthe terms of what the forum is labeled...if you would like to see a topic on why people lie...they are easy to start...so hook it up... | |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 3:25:00 PM | | They are scare if the tell us the true that we will break up with they | |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 12:49:17 PM | well if everyone told the truth and got on and we lived in nirvana. It just wouldn't be very interesting. We need to be under hand sometimes people like danger or layers to peel. Everyone lies!. Everyone in here will have lied for some reason or other. Ok in a relationship u shouldn't try and impress with lies becuase they will find out. Their in u're life.
DD. | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/27/2004 7:34:46 PM | am not saying lie am just say people do for all sorts of reason.
there isn't an answer to why people do it. | |
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gasset
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Joined: 8/28/2004
Msg: 34 | |
| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/29/2004 3:02:17 PM | [QUOTE]true...I wish there was an answer to the why part though, I'd like to know[/QUOTE]
there are whys when there are intentions | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/29/2004 3:15:22 PM | | men suck and are inherently shitty towards everyone not just women. I think its the modern day version of survival of the fittest. Why, if I was a man.....I...I...would....hey wait a second..... scratch all that. Men are awsome :) | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/29/2004 5:19:39 PM | Hallo Tezza
Well, you have problems with lying men, mine's with lying women.
The last girl-lier I've met, I couldn't (or wanted not) catch on a lie.
But I was there when she told lies to her friends. When she kept things unsaid to relatives.....
So, deep in my heart I never could trust her.
Therefore I think it is important to see someone in his/her own social world.
I still hope to meet a real honest person to become special to me.
Maybe....Tom Orrow | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/29/2004 6:07:37 PM | But lets talk about the people who have not been able to find a partner yet. These people find it hard because they are feeling those wonderful spider-web emotions: rejection…hurt…pain…insecure…but most of all “lack of trust.” Trust in these people has been torn away and thrown into the pit of self-pity. They once opened their hearts to their last partner and trusted them and gave their whole life for them and still that was not good enough for that relationship. They felt second best and were treated second best so naturally that big word “trust” was gradually lost.
So they come to the reality: yes they are single again, but I am never going too fully trust that person until they earn my trust and respect for them. So “trust” comes into a person’s lifestyle more after separation and divorce, because who wants to endure the pain they felt before in the last relationship, and that is why the most important start in a new relationship is “trust” and “respect and now another important part of a relationship… TRUTH.
So now we have covered “trust, respect and now truth” in starting out in a relationship. But isn’t it amazing, when we first started out on the dating cycle before we got married, we did not put much effort into dating. But now “divorced” we now have to work overtime to make sure we don’t make mistakes as before in the last relationship.
So we feel like we have a “full armor” around our emotions and the heavier it feels the more difficult it is to feel free to move on. To lighten the loads just learn to trust… respect… and most of all put truth in you. But most of all… learn to love you.
And too the men or women that start off lying..... one day your going to get caught with your pants down.... (laughing) | |
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Posted: 8/30/2004 9:16:26 AM | Hallo Karrarose
Hi digitaldrama
and others
I feel I've walked that path already.
I hope to have found a ballance, now I don't act when I'm not sure, just giving people credit.
If they lie, well, the pants will come down anyway sooner or later.
If not today, then....
Tom Orrow
ps Karra, your new picture, did you swallow your cigarette? Hope you don't quit smoking, would make me feel lonely. (laugh) | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 8/30/2004 3:05:33 PM | | hi tezza how are you, like your point but why do women also lie its hard to find someone you trust fully but as for those who make up things are only out for attention they need to get a life .................. | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/1/2004 10:46:56 PM | digitaldrama-- i really liked your post. i know that everyone lies in some way. i lie all the time in business, or as i like to call it-- being economical with the truth...
but i'm not talking about that-- or even lieing to cover up your "bad" behavior...
i'm talking about there have been several guys that i have met throughout my life who have imagine really creative false realities and spit them out to everyone and lead double or even triple lives out of habit...
kinda like that guy who was on the news last month for his wife "going missing" and he actually ended up being the killer. he lied about school, his degrees, he even made his wife move because of his lies.
my sister's x lied about property ownership, his sat's, his nationality, his profession, about trips he took to the carwash where he beat up several men who thought they were kool... and it goes on.
my first boyfriend told me he had heart cancer and was going to die soon and that he had an extremely complicated past which was actually really interesting-- he stole from his friends (i later found out)....
i'm talking about those guys who fool everyone all the time but don't laugh about it. men can also participate in this subject b/c i'm sure there are some who have known men or boys like these at some point in their life... ANYONE? | |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 12:26:44 AM | Tezza- sounds to me like you've had way more than your share of exposure to these types of scenerios. The kind of behaviour you are describing in my opinion is 'atypical' behaviour. I've lived a fairly full and decent life that's exposed me to people from all over North America. And I can safely say none of the people I've had a chance to meet come close to what you are describing. Bit of a freak show really.. And I have to agree with some of the earlier posts..you did intially sound sort of man-hate-ish..but that all got straightened out.
THere sure are some interesting stories and points of view in this thread.
Cheers!
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/3/2004 12:37:29 AM | no man hating this way... just a topic...
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/3/2004 12:39:21 AM | just forget about it... i guess it's not very interesting to anyone else....
dont be so defensive fair gentlemen | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/4/2004 2:54:37 PM | Well..after all that SCREAMING Indian7 I am sure you'll need this right about now..
*Passes Indian a glass of water* | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/4/2004 3:10:16 PM | | the caps were accidents. ok happy happy joy joy | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/4/2004 3:23:18 PM | Hmmmm, well I would have to agree with the statement, all PEOPLE lie.. men,women, children, even little old ladies.We all do it or have done it at some point of our lives for various reasons.Perhaps it is because sometimes fiction is really better than the truth,( not always is the truth is better than fiction). This world has evolved into a dog eat dog world, where status, image and appearances mean everything.Its no wonder lies run rampant, in a world so materialistic and shallow.Sadly alot of us feel we all have to keep up with the Joneses...
Now having said that I hardly think those lies are the ones that cause the most damage, I feel the most damaging lies are the ones we tell the people we love, or the ones we tell ourselves.Those type's of lies can cut deep.Leaving emotional scars and wrecking havoc on us ever again trusting others.In life, little white lies, unfortunately make the world go round.They pacify and appease others.Flattery gets you everywhere.
I think when you live a life that forces you to lie about serious issues to the one you love, you should really evaluate your life and how you are living it.You may think it is just a lie, but its repercussions can cause ripples for years to come for everyone involved.The person lied to loses trust, trust in you, trust in others."The liar loses themselves."
"God made the horse with the breath of the wind, the beauty of the earth, and the soul of the angel. May they forever run with our hearts"
( just something I wrote once) * my horse is my one true love of my life* | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/4/2004 4:31:33 PM |
Wouldn't want to French Kiss a horse.
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
Msg: 49 | |
| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/5/2004 8:44:39 AM | babygurl...and women who lie?
Some ppl have to lie.....the less known about them the better...but they are few and far between except in places like Washington, etc......LOL!
Anyhow's...yep...status, social ladders, etc, all "force" us to lie about ourselves. We wish to appear "cool" or better than we are. When you ARE open and honest about yourself, ppl think "OMG...if this is the best this guy can come up with, what kind of loser is he REALLY??"....and the women back off real fast. Once in awhile though, one will see that you are actually telling the truth, and like it! So if a woman says she's "looking for honesty", she's probably lying!" What they really want is someone who has hopes, dreams aspirations...that are within the realms of reality, and within reach....not the total BS some guys spew. Example...a lie that is not a lie....I had a small ranch with about 100 head . Yes...in real life, I DID have this. The "lie" is it was a rabbit ranch. Small lie of omission....but very effective. No...I no longer have that, but we all make things seem better than they are, or were, just to appease ourselves and those we wish to impress.
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/5/2004 3:21:17 PM | | We are all Doomed....DOOMED I tell you....!!! Just Freakin' DOOMED | |
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