| Re: men who lie
Posted: 9/5/2004 3:23:45 PM | Oh a little off the beaten path...trying to segue topically...
I ain't lyin'. Damn HollyBerry you are one beautiful woman. | |
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| Tezza - I am sorry to hear about your lying Ex-Boyfriend.
Posted: 9/5/2004 4:04:41 PM | ...Well, you know, I had a LYING ex-wife. I've never regretted divorcing her. It sure wasn't because of a lack of communication, though.
...I know how to be KIND and understanding, BUT I want to be painfully honest with my partner. How can a couple have compatibility without good communication? I'm a guy and I HATE guys who lie to their women - also other guys who brag about scoring! Makes me laugh if they try to get that info out of me! | |
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| Re: Tezza - I am sorry to hear about your lying Ex-Boyfriend.
Posted: 9/7/2004 12:02:26 PM | Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I suck at lying. Always have. Maybe I'm just not imaginitive enough. Then there's that whole dislike of misleading people. Sure, I've lied before, but mostly just to lightly cover my arse. Usually the closest I can get to a lie is making things as general as possible. Leaving out certain details. Of course, being the honest dope I am, all it takes is a few well-placed questions and I'll tell everything anyway.
Here's a question for people: Has anyone ever tried to make you lie to people to cover them? I once had a gf who would get mad at me because I wouldn't lie to her parents about what she was doing. Needless to say this was quite a while back and she was still a teenager. Her parents loved me, so she'd try to get me to tell them she was with me when she'd be out doing other things with her friends. Man, how stupid was I to date someone in high school when I was in college? Live and learn . . . | |
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Posted: 9/7/2004 9:59:51 PM | | It's like I always say...if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember so much! Although lying for someone else is different: you're not actually lying...you're lying on their BEHALF!! Even if you get caught, it backfires on their ass!! Give the people what they want, I say!! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:32:16 PM | | Any answers?????? Why do people that are looking for a relationship get so intense when they meet the one that clicks and then all of a sudden it is "OH!OH!" and it is all about him/her. They have to do things for him/her first not that there is anyone else; they need their time (social outings on his/her own time); and at the same time he/she still wants to see you - he/she is very romantic when with you (from holding hands, touching or complimenting you continually) and when he/she disappears for a few days and then reappears and tells it like it is - he/she has gone on a social outing not hiding it from you. What is this person wanting to tell you or he/herself in this situation????? Any comments... is the whole truth being unfolded or is somethings still being hidden!!?? | |
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| men who lie
Posted: 10/4/2004 1:47:50 PM | I don't know how come people lie. I think it is because they want to feel important as if perhaps they done something remarkable like cure cancer, coordinate with the mafia & Marine Corps to prove that the Japanese liars really found a rotting Basking Shark and not a Plesiasaur, laid the ground work to secure Saber Tooth Tiger skull (s) to fund medical missions to aid US medical MIA's and perhaps identify extraterestrial alien nephilim pre-Noah's flood DNA, or have a lovely gorgeous restoring relationship with children shattered through divorce and be touched by God Almighty Himself.
I believe it is a self-esteem issue. That's how come CONUS Police Chiefs want gun control--they seek POWER. Liars seek POWER...
Never empower LIARS no matter how high their PAY GRADE is. A liar may always repent and be truthful and honest... I've done it. If I can anybody may. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 1:58:32 PM | I haven't met a decent woman yet who hadn't lied to me in one way or another, so please do not single out men. Women are just as bad. I am a man who does not lie, have a heart of gold, compassionate, loving, honest and trusting, and because of this, women take advantage of men like that and it just is not fair. I do not like getting my heart broken.
Austin | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 10/4/2004 3:38:10 PM | Some of the reasons people choose to lie include the desire to:
· Avoid conflict,
· Avoid someone else' s anger or hurt,
· Avoid hurting someone' s feelings,
· Diminish someone else or make them feel bad,
· Feel more worthy of admiration and respect,
· Gain power,
· Avoid having to face an unpleasant truth about themselves,
· Avoid admitting mistakes, and
· Keep "the boat from rocking", hoping everything will pass over, unnoticed.
When a person lies, it' s a decision that he or she has made as to how the situation should be handled; assuming that a person is not mentally ill, lying is a choice often made out of a lack of skillfulness. Recognize the power - and result - of this self-will and these choices.
For people who have created a habit of lying--Lying is often a "survival mode" created in childhood or early life, so requires the care, gentleness and perseverance needed to deconstruct a destructive habit and replace it with a healthier, more skillful one.
Lying can also be the product of a snap-decision, made in haste without thoughtful consideration.
I’ve been at this internet dating thing for some time now and I’ve come to one conclusion: If they say they are the most trustworthy person you’ll ever meet, and they say it over and over, as if saying it alone will impress you—9 times out of 10 watch out! Trust is something earned with time, not given on another persons say so!
Frankly, I’ve met women and men who lie; some of them are pathological about it. When asked why they lied, some have said because I’m a failure and who would want the real me or be impressed by it. Others have blamed it on horrible childhoods or that they have led sad lives and because they don’t want to be seen as a failure because of their experiences, they make up a life worthy of whom they think that person would find attractive.
Personally, I'd rather hear the truth, no matter what it is, as long as it's said respectfully. | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 10/4/2004 4:22:17 PM | deconstruct a destructive habit and replace it with a healthier, more skillful one.
I salute you, GL. Wise. Well said, indeed ! | |
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| Re: men who lie
Posted: 10/14/2004 1:25:23 AM | TRUTH IS THE BEST
NO MATTER HOW INCONVIENT................. | |
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