| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:01:52 AM | The same man could be a brilliant computer programer in a cubicle at NASA making a software engineer's salary, and guess what, a lot less women would be attracted to him...
Would we? - maybe if I was a stupid fool of a girl - thank you for saying we are
all after the pocket change - again.
It is not always about the money or the looks - sometimes it is truly about a person
whose mind just shines- You are not a woman - you cant begin to know how we
feel - some of us really like the geeks - sorry to dissapoint you. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:04:42 AM |
There is one overriding attribute why women would find Bill Gates attractive, and we all know what that is...
No, you just pretend you know and foist your narrow views of women upon the readers. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:14:04 AM |
No, you just pretend you know and foist your narrow views of women upon the readers.
There is no prentending involved...
I'm an enginner, I work with geeks, I know how women treat geeks, until they find out how much they are worth, then I see how women can change their mind, LOL... It's so transparent... | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:25:31 AM |
now you are judging bill gates as what having a lack of morals or ?
wow, what a scammer he is...
he is brilliant and you are afraid of power.
Is this directed at me? Or the other poster? I do admire Gates as a shrewd businessman, though most of Microsoft's strategies are very ethically questionably. Microsoft software products are riddled with bugs and most of it doesnt work. Mind you I have four Microsoft professional certifications.
Microsoft is digging its own grave. The IT industry is fast moving to other operating system platforms such as Linux/Unix, which laughably are 1960s creations.
If you know anything of the history of Microsoft, you would realize that Gates did indeed steal the code from Apple computer in the early 80s. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:41:36 AM |
I'm an enginner, I work with geeks, I know how women treat geeks, until they find out how much they are worth, then I see how women can change their mind, LOL... It's so transparent...
Yet again, one man's small world is the template for an entire planet. A few bad apples and the entire planet's apples are after a man's money.
I always thought engineers would be smart enough to know better.
Guess not.
It never ever ceases to amaze me how many generalizations and bull$hit can get flung around in here. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 8:48:34 AM | It never ever ceases to amaze me how many generalizations and bull$hit can get flung around in here.
Welcome to internet forums...
And honeslty, you can't tell me that the majority of women don't consider in a potential mate how much income he can rake in... Of course there are exceptions, but if you believe that for the majority of women, it does not enter the equation, you're simply fooling yourself...
However, believe what you will...
el m
it is amazing....i totally agree...
what if we thought that all guys were like him?
i'd definately be gay.
No, you'd both be without a man, on a free dating site, oh wait a minute... | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 9:53:15 AM | I admit to having a man crush on Bill Clinton. There. I said it.
Hey, I guess better him than having one on his much manlier wife! LOL!
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 9:58:52 AM | Part of the reason for this apparent phenomenon is that intellectuals don't get as much celebrity exposure. They especially don't get cast as being the love-interest in many films or TV series (there are exceptions of course). A celebrity who stars in films and takes romantic or emotional roles gets an emotional association. It's not the actor, it's all the roles he plays that get the emotional reaction. It's just that the media chooses pretty faces for this, as you say, OP. Someone who is good at rocket science does that, someone who is not a rocket scientist but looks good in front of the camera does that...
Another part of the reason is that intellectualism is not a particularly attractive trait to most people. Intellectuals are an elite, by definition. Being mental athletes their ability is hard to appreciate as a spectator as one might be able to appreciate a great artist, pianist or gymnast. Worse, as others have pointed out, the domain of most intellectuals is books, studies, academia, geekdom and ivory towers. It's got little to do with interacting or even being visible to other people. In research, 99% of the time, it's you and your brain: isolated and alone. When you communicate that research it is to other experts and takes a completely different interaction with different rules compared to a normal conversation. What is considered rude in normal conversation can be considered essential to scientific debate -- a lot of challenging other people and interrogating them with no pausing for niceties or politeness or consideration of others feelings. Feelings are required to be removed from the situation.
An intellectual might impress you, but they're no more likely and in fact less likely to be able to engage your emotions because it's not what they are expert in. The same might be said for serious athletes, but the visual factor allows more people to appreciate their strength or grace whereas intellectuals can be rather esoteric and unfathomable. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:34:16 AM | leave it up to you to state the obvious mech...
Now you're just forum stalking me...
Midol, my GF says it works, go try some...
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:40:36 AM | lol...first good one you've come up with all day....
u wish i'd stalk your ugly ass....get real poser...
Yep, now you're getting angry over an internet forum, lol...
I think we all know who the poser is, lol...
Have fun with yourself... I won't respond to your drivel on the forums anymore, messing up good threads and all...
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:41:41 AM | One of the sexiest men I've ever seen in my life....Dolph Lungren...hot body and sexy. Has a master's degree in chemical engineering and attended the royal institute of technology in Sweden. He was awarded a fulbright scholarship to MIT but while in New York met a drama coach who got him into acting. Personally I think he would have made a better engineer than actor, but hey he's still an intellectually sexy man.
I chose him since you mentioned actors. Celebrities are whom we usually see as the ''hot'' guys. There are plenty of celebrites out there who are intellectual and extremely bright. We just don't get to see that side of them. Brad Pitt is very well spoken and seems to know about a lot of things going on in this world. Tom Cruise well yeah he always came across to me as a flake. But, Denzel Washington, Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman, Johnny Depp, Sean Penn, etc etc are all Hollywood types who also take a vested interest in the world and the human condition in it. So that makes them much deeper than the average female sex symbol type like Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Pamela Lee and Carmen Electra. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:42:40 AM | | That's exactly why I'm having second thoughts about pursuing a career in academic research. You need to work so hard and you get so little credit. Most women won't be interested in you, except for the ones that are intellectuals themselves. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:47:11 AM |
That's exactly why I'm having second thoughts about pursuing a career in academic research. You need to work so hard and you get so little credit. Most women won't be interested in you, except for the ones that are intellectuals themselves.
I'd hate to think that you would change your career path based on what women will think of you...
If you have the brains & desire for that line of work, by all means, go for it... Most people are not that analytical, so it's a gift... | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:48:59 AM | | bellydancer18. Those actors may be bright and interested in social justice. However, they don't have the extensive knowledge of one academic field like a university prof. Brad Pitt may be fairly intelligent, but he's no Einstein. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:53:36 AM | bellydancer18. Those actors may be bright and interested in social justice. However, they don't have the extensive knowledge of one academic field like a university prof. Brad Pitt may be fairly intelligent, but he's no Einstein.
I think that's where these women are getting confused...
I think if they met a Neil's Bohr, an Einstein or a Newton, they would be appalled by those men's social skills to the point that they would be so unattractive, they would not see the intellectual part so attractive anymore...
Brad Pitt & Dulph Lungren are very far from true intellectuals lol... | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 10:59:27 AM | | No, I don't think I want to change my career plans based on what women will think of me. I know that at least some women are interested in intellectuals and you only need one woman. Its the isolation from the real world in general that I find unappealing. But that's a different topic and has nothing to do with what this forum is about. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 11:01:52 AM |
No, you'd both be without a man, on a free dating site, oh wait a minute...
Who says I'm looking for a man? Certainly not me. I date, but have yet to date anyone here since I've come back. I am mostly here for the forums, but making new friends isn't exactly a bad plan either.
Assumptions tend to bite one in the ass.. generalizations do, too... but there's no catchy saying for that.
Part of the reason for this apparent phenomenon is that intellectuals don't get as much celebrity exposure.
Which is completely retarded.
An intellectual might impress you, but they're no more likely and in fact less likely to be able to engage your emotions because it's not what they are expert in.
I don't think I can buy that as applying to everyone who is really truly a brainiac because then it makes it out as if everyone who's seriously bright can't emote. I'd bet a lot of money that the not-emotive percentage is pretty small.
One of the sexiest men I've ever seen in my life....Dolph Lungren...hot body and sexy.
"I must break you" *sigh* *shiver* I can't see him or think of him without saying that. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 11:20:55 AM | ...so how am I doing on the making friends part?
Honestly.. not so hot.. plus I know you hate animals.. so 
And do you like him for his mind too? LOL!
I didn't even know how educated he was, but now that I do... just completes it.
I gave my preferred example of someone I think is really smart (kinda loud, too) that I really dig bigtime. I am trying to think of others, but I'm also trying to work at the same time.
Oh.. Henry Rollins was my example. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 2:13:56 PM |
That's exactly why I'm having second thoughts about pursuing a career in academic research. You need to work so hard and you get so little credit. Most women won't be interested in you, except for the ones that are intellectuals themselves. If you're not wholly committed and passionate about your research then I'd not recommend doing it. I did it whilst I was completely passionate about it. It takes a LOT of head-space and 100% of your time because of that (background thoughts). You will almost certainly dream about your research problems. It can be the most exciting thing... only if it is the most exciting thing. Go into it for no other reason than that you want to do the research for the sake of it and for nothing that you think or hope may come of it. That is the advice I was given when I was offered my first place and I think it's great. I'll add to it a little of my own... if at any stage it stops inspiring you, don't feel trapped: you can do something else. I'd also question whether academic ability is all it takes to make an intellectual: I don't consider myself to be an intellectual. I think "intellectual" is more to do with attitude than intelligence: more to do with being academically centred than with being academically able.
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I don't think I can buy that as applying to everyone who is really truly a brainiac because then it makes it out as if everyone who's seriously bright can't emote. I'd bet a lot of money that the not-emotive percentage is pretty small. I didn't say everyone. Addressing whether or not it is "most"... okay well it's scientists I've mostly worked with, but, women included, amongst university researchers, I'd say there was a very significant difference between people who are deeply enmeshed in that environment and the way that they talk to others and people outside of that environment. Limited experience here, but that's what I saw. The other female PhD students used to joke about it a lot and couldn't wait to get out: there was no way they were staying in academia with the freaky people. Not to say they're insensitive or can't emote -- far from it: they just do it differently... And many of them are super people... just very quirky and therefore not appealing to the mainstream. | |
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| Lack of Intellectuals as Sex Symbols
Posted: 5/31/2007 7:54:43 PM | | OP : Noam Chomsky is extremely sexy to me ! And what about Jean Paul Sartre, who was short and unattractive looking ( to put it mildly), but had no shortage of women lining up to be his lover. I can think of countless other examples. Perhaps you are limiting yourself by only thinking of Hollywood stars. Women in the academic, literary and artistic world are known to be highly sexually drawn to men with impressive intellects, notwithstanding these men's lack of good looks. The brain is the biggest sex organ afterall ! | |
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