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Posted: 6/1/2007 3:24:03 PM | that is such BS what you wrote about them not being gangsta or what not. I am a supervisor in a factory full of prison parolees and convicted felons and i am telloing you first hand that what you see out here is what comes from prison. The minority want respect? how can you give a slob respect!! How can i go down the street and respect someone who cannot even use the english language correctly and speak so others can understand them!! Those that want to dress and act like a prison guards night mare will not get the respect that they "THINK" they deserve.  | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 4:27:53 PM |
And some people will blame rap music, the way they blamed Marilyn Manson for Columbine.
Which I think is hilarious. Who came up with that???  I mean, I grew up with Cake and Sodomy. The worst to come out of that is some torn up bibles and maybe some horrible makeup. No one was really talking about doing any actual crime. The weapon of choice is a middle finger and an angsty attitude. Not a weapon one of death. Just a wish for death. Infact, the whole thing....it's a deeper joke than most are willing to acknowledge. I know why they do it, and it's hilarious from my perspective.
Then again, I am a reject of the culture of fear. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 6:12:48 PM | parents want to blame anyone but themselves. Hence entertainers become a good target. kids do look up to these people and try to emulate them. But, you have to have other factors involved. Music won't kill anyone. A disturbed mind can take any song and make it demented.
Poverty is a big factor. A feeling a hopelessness, peer pressure. When you have a 30 yr old trying to raise a 16 yr old, it's difficult. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 9:09:32 PM |
Happy why would you want to continue a conversation with this girl? She jumped into a thread and started ragging on you. Walk away buddy!
Thats the best advice I heard all day.  | |
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Posted: 6/2/2007 3:32:31 PM | | i dont advocate blaming any media for anything but if theres any media theyre going to pick on it should be rap....god when i think that in the 80s every time some 1 slipped on a bannana peel they blamed ozzy ozbourne and i dont know about you but ive never met any 1 who got attacked at knife point by a metal head.....but these rapper wanna bes they all think theyre tough theyre all looking for trouble...you see them from across the street and they just eyeball you and taunt you...its cool for kids to be violent cause every 1 wants to be a gangster. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2007 8:14:15 AM | are you kidding me with this?
and i dont know about you but ive never met any 1 who got attacked at knife point by a metal head....
have you ever met anyone attacked at knifepoint by a 'thug'? haha
Maybe you're just afraid of this certain 'type'? Fear in a person shows in many forms. Hate is the main one. | |
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| thugs & gangstas
Posted: 6/3/2007 8:43:56 AM |
if theres any media theyre going to pick on it should be rap
Violent crime and other problems in the inner city existed well before rap became popular. In fact when rap became very popular in the 1990s, violent crime in the United States decreased. I'm not saying violence decreased because of rap, but it does show that violence did not increase because of rap. Also during the Woodstock concert in 1999, there were many rapes, looting, and other forms of violence. I wouldn't stereotype rock music or people who listen to it because some incidents like this. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:23:13 PM | | yes i have known ppl attacked at knife point by a thug....if im counting right i think 8 ppl i went to school with...ive been lucky to have never been attacked but theyve certainly said sh it and eyeballed me like they wanna fight. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:54:28 PM | | I just think it's funny that there are guys out there acting like thugs or gangstas and then putting their profiles on a dating website. So not badass. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2007 4:05:11 PM | You've known 8 different people 'attacked at knifepoint'?? LOL
......Ok then...
You getting eyeballed is not something rap did. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2007 1:50:19 PM | Some girls probably find these guys exciting. Maybe girls like the power these guys supposedly have. I am not one of these girls but I do remember it sure being exciting hanging around people my parents did not care for too much. People are naturally attracted to power, money and whatever makes them feel good. Sometimes temptation is hard to resisit. What I wanna know is why do girls dress like boys. I don't know which is worse. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2007 2:54:56 PM | | Everyone should just "Keep it Real" ! I ain't no gangster but I do believe some individuals are loosing themselves and and changing who they are a bit too much in order to be accepted. I don't give a sh!t if someone doesn't like me. Except me for who am or get the hell away from me. I don't chnage for no one. Oh yah, and I like me ass and it is staying in my pants! | |
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Posted: 6/16/2007 3:05:22 PM | Because a person listens to rap, wears baggy clothing, and/or uses some street slang, it doesn't make them a thug or gangsta. A thug is a person who sells drugs, comitts violent crimes etc. There are some people who listen to certain types of rock music and wear weird clothing, but I wouldn't stereotype them.
^^^Agree.What is it with this site and steriotypeing. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2007 3:22:09 PM | Meaning of "Gangster" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster & http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gangster
Meaning of "Thug" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thug &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thug
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Posted: 6/16/2007 4:31:13 PM | Intresting.Anyone considered the fact that rap is actually poetry put to beats?
I could sit here and say that everyone who listens to metal is depressed,or everyone who likes classical music is a square,if u like pop,well,you must be shallow.Dont mean its true.
So if you talk street,and you wear your jeans low,and your "gansta" That means your gonna treat a woman badly and be a player? it means your dumb,and gonna drop out of school...thats what ive just read yeah.
I rap,and i talk street(yes i can still type though),and im feelin the whole hiphop/gansta thing.In a years time,ill be on a better salery then a teacher gets,most of the people i know,who are also "thugs n gansta types" as you put it,are happy in relationships,lol,and yeah,some come from steriotypical backgrounds,does it make them drug-pushers n players? nah.
Not everyone finds it attractive,thats cool,but you cant say how a person is because of their image etc
"theyre the reason why its common practise for ppl to get stabbed and randomly beaten to death at parties etc because its cool to do that s hit..why? because everbody wants to be a f ucking gangster"
^^Classic example of ignorence right here to,you dont know what your talkin about. 
All im saying is cant just judge people like that,if you do-u trippin! ;O) | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 10:29:34 PM | My main concern is the so called gangsters who harm people or commit crimes that may lead to harm. Otherwise who gives a sh!t. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 10:50:39 PM | Tallenone,
I agree with you. I also believe it is coming from the prison. The prison mentality bullcrap. What's worse is rehabilitaion isn't always successful. This failure affects the prisoner and the rest of us. We also have to remember that prisoners have rights too and I'm sure they are mistreated somehow in prison which doesn't help matters. This issue is extremely complex and would be quite costly to solves. It's always about $$$$. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 3:17:13 PM | actually its not coming from the prison mentality its coming from the lack of hope mentality when people lose hope for a better future they tend to stop caring about other people and focus completely on self and those willing to do things like they are to do better.
You know I know alot of gangsters and thugs and all the trully hardcore ones could walk anywhere they want and most of you would even let them babysit your kids why because its a business and who wants to be noticed people who dress the hip hop style get noticed because of sterotypes.
People look at me just because of the way I dress and look and automatically assume geek/nerd till they find out I am probably have more street smarts then they do and could survive in areas they could not because I know how to go around any area and fit in. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 4:54:15 PM | I grew up listening to Wu-Tang, Biggie, 2Pac, Mobb Deep, Jay-Z, Nas, etc (not the most positive lyrics). Yes, I dress in the Hip Hop style, yes, I use street slang, Yes, I still listen to hip hop and will never stop.
No, I have never been to jail, no, I have never "slapped a ****", no I have never pimped, no I have never moved yayo, no I have never been shot. I know a few "real gangsters" and I don't for a second want or think that I wanna walk in their shoes.
I'm a self adjusted individual like anybody else that is out there regardless of what culture they embrace. To each his own is the order of the day. I don't expect everybody to like me or accept me. If we just let people live we would all be much happier. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 5:20:53 PM | | as I said above real gangsters dont dress the hip hop style real gangster dress in something that dont get them noticed. the only thing you can really tell a true gangster is the walk its the I am a thug gangster walk and only people who have lived that life have that walk period. you can seperate the posers from the real ones by that walk and its not the whole I shot myself in the knee cap either. Think the most casual arrogant with controlled violence walk and you will see the true gangsters. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 6:13:47 PM | | I agree MONEMPERER. I was giving my response to some of the other posts on here. But you hit the nail on the head. Real gangsters seem like normal non-descript people and you don't know what kind of malice they are capable of until you paint them in a corner. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 6:26:43 PM | | believe me you can tell what kind of malice they are capable of if you have been hanging out with them I was born and raised around real gangsters mom was dating a HA member for a couple years and remained friends with him and his after words. You can read it in their eyes thier voice and how they walk. When i was younger i was into that lifestyle heavily and it still shows even now in the way i walk carry myself every town I visit every place I go I get people thinking I am a drug dealer gangster type when i walk if sitting well its more the geek nerd type. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2008 12:22:07 PM | As illogical as it is that girls want thug when they say they want responsible intelligent guys is not so illogical when you get to the crux of it.
The thug is the roller coaster. The flashy car that everyone oohs and ahs about when you pull up to the curve in it. The car that gives you a bit of fear as you round the curves and have the cops keeping an eye out for you. It is that excitement, however brief, that makes you forget how crappy the mechanics of the car is and how much money in repairs, and many times it stranded you when you really needed it. The thug represents living large, fat pocket, spending money like water, and lots of gold. They look like they are rich but all that is ephemeral, if they don’t end up in the grave all that bling goes to the layer (that which is not confiscated) and they are just another broke con crying to mama to put money on his books.
The smart guy, whom these thugs will most likely be working for, as one of the cleaning staff are predictable, mellow. They are not flashy. They are more like a trip on a sailboat, slow and deliberate. No one really takes a look. Take in the fact that the media plays these guys as boring geeks who don’t like to dance or party and one can see why they are stepped over. Like brains equal BORING.
American society has long played up the rebel, and downgraded the smart guy. The smart guy is a nerd, a geek; someone who would cream his undies if he slow danced a girl because he can never get on. The thug, the rebel, he is strong like a young Clint Eastwood. He can protect you from anyone. He does things his own way, and by choosing him over the smart guy, the girls are living out a bit of rebellious independence from her parents. We all want what we are told not to touch or can’t have. “No one tells me what to do!” As long as society plays this BS, you will have ignorant young girls pining after these losers, until they grow up, wise up, and see that geek they passed up actually owns the car, house, and boat he has, and not under moms roof trying yet again not to get a violation while he tried to get work from this geek who was passed up back in school. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2008 12:25:03 PM | Losers*
Some thugs and "gangsters" are some of the most respectful men towards women. It just depends on who you come across. I've found some pretty shitty preppy boys who cheat and even hit on their ladies. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2008 12:57:03 PM | I'm actually from a rather tough part of town.
I've seen many girls around my age fall for these kind of guys and more when I was older, teaching karate in the same area.
I don't have much of a point to make, except to give a few examples. Samantha was a nice little girl, 2 years younger than me. We used to take karate together when we were kids. I recently met her on the street and I was shocked. She was indeed accompanied by one of these gangsta type guys. The guy had to go take a bus so we had the chance to talk a bit. At 20, she had 3 kids, from 3 different fathers. She had the first one with another gangsta so she would have a "good" reason to leave her abusive family. Now, she's on welfare, has 3 kids, no father helping out and without hope.
Another one I know, much younger than me. Very smart that one, from perfectly good and normal family, but she was indeed attracted to that type of guys. To make a long story short, she ended up being a prostitute for them at 14, taking parts in "tournantes" (ie, all the guys in the gang take her one after the other). All that happened after her boyfriend dumped her because he said it would become too dangerous for her. He wanted her to go away to protect her. She only went away after the prostitution problems, at about the same time that ex-bf got murdered by a rival gang. Now, she's had to move out of town because some the guys vowed to kill her because she left the gang...
yeah. If you ever see your daughter with a gangsta, better have a good long talk with her. | |
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