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Posted: 5/16/2005 12:21:16 AM | | if this guy's deleted his account, isn't it bad form to be telling the world about his low self-esteem.? no wonder he had now self-esteem. you should be able to communicate your message without having to reveal what should be a private observation. last time i look, it wasn't open season on people who have trouble on here and decide to delete their account. use your discretion please! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 12:41:40 PM | | digital. the expression is 'you've been thinking with the wrong head'. get it? | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 12:45:19 PM | | metalheadwhiz. as for me, i am as honest and open as i can be. with me, what you see is what you get. i don't like surprises and i imagine no one else does either. and yes, it's true, i was rated one of the world's ten sexiest men! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 12:48:18 PM | | BreadPan. to your question 'is the sky not blue'? actually, the sky is pink with rosy hues. as any psychology professor. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 10:49:07 PM | The truth? Some guys like fat women. Some guys don't like fat women. Those who don't like fat women are the majority. So what? You have still a big (I suppose) pool of men to choose from.
What fat people can't do is to try to enforce their "fat is beautiful" view upon others. If you like fat, it's your choice, and good luck. I won't call you jerks, shallow or judgemental because of it. I think you should give us the same courtesy.
"Fat women are sexy, fat women are voluptuous, fat women are attractive". May be... for you. Not for me. You can't demand to be seen as attractive.
Do I care why are you fat? Not really. The fact is that I'm not attracted to it.
And I find this chat about "trophy wives" stupid and bigoted. So if I like slim women I only want a "trophy wife"? Perhaps if I liked fat women then I'd only want a "xxxxxx wife". (The xxxx is because I don't want to offend anybody. Fill in whatever you want).
If the guy you like doesn't like you because you are fat, you have two choices:
a) Find another guy
b) Lose weight
But you can't criticize him because he doesn't like you. His reasons are as valid as yours, and he deserves the same respect you demand. Moreover, nobody owes you a date. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 10:54:37 PM | | What goes in most come out. All doctors will tell you a persons weight is purely a function of how many calories they consume, and how many calories they burn. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 11:13:23 PM | I just HAD to post my opinion in this forum...**To Polarunion and to the others that agree with him... Thats only your opinion and we are all entitled to our own. But women who do look after themselves are doing it for their own benefit, not for the benefit of men. But shouldnt women also expect men to be fit and look after themselves? As far as Im concerned people who look on the outer before they know the inner arent worth knowing. Wake up people!! Size is not relevant to what a person is. A person can be fat, skinny whatever but if they are an arrogant a**hole they will always be one! In reality we always cant be fit forever, we will age we will get fragile bones & other health problems and we will all get wrinkly and in the males case his penis will shrivel, and women will get vaginal dryness as they get MEN-opause. Then again there is always KY jelly to fix that small problem...but what are you guys going to do with your penis shrinkage??? No quick fix for that tiny problem...lol..BUT THEN AGAIN WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN PREFERENCES...EACH TO HIS OWN I SAY..And to all the shallow people....karma has a way of returning the favour for cruelty..lol..Ive known guys who wouldnt be seen dead with a large woman but later married just that!!! LOL...oh well it goes to show beggars cant be choosers...  | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 12:15:02 AM | listen to OUTKAST-"THE WAY YOU MOVE" a few times and hopefully you'll get enough of a basic understading on men's minds dear
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Posted: 5/17/2005 5:48:42 AM | But women who do look after themselves are doing it for their own benefit, not for the benefit of men.
So, she's looking for her own benefit. I am also looking for my own benefit. Your point?
As far as Im concerned people who look on the outer before they know the inner arent worth knowing.
So you have discarded 99.99% of people in this planet, except by gypsy fortune-tellers and telephatics (sp?).
But shouldnt women also expect men to be fit and look after themselves?
Of course they should. The difference is that a woman who chooses not dating an unfit guy will be called "having standards", while you call us guys "shallow".
And to all the shallow people
Here we go again. I'm not shallow. I have standards :)
karma has a way of returning the favour for cruelty
So now if I don't date a girl, I'm being "cruel" to her? I suppose most cheerleaders in high school were "cruel" to me, then.
ManEater, thanks by acknowledging that we have the right to our own opinion. Now, if it's our right, why are you wishing us evil only because we choose to make use of it? | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 7:59:39 AM | | How deep ! You have an incredible way of expressing yourself, how refreshing ! By the way sir...is that a white T-shirt? | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 8:17:52 AM | | I think you're attractive..chunk is okay...I have some... | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 10:03:04 AM | Hey Girl!
It really pains me to do this cuz normally I think we should all stick together. I have read your questions that you have posted, and I gotta say I think you have some serious self-image issues.
You can't expect a guy to overlook the fact that you may be a bit over weight, I'm sorry my most men and women are shallow. Body image is one of the first things we judge as people. From weight, to hair color, how your smile looks..ect. If there is not that first spark of attraction then you can't blame them.
I'm not trying to bring you down, as a girl who is not tooth pick thin myself I know how you feel. But I have to ask would you want a guy who doesn't like you for who you are 100%? Who drops the odd hint about loosing a few pounds? You have to love yourself first before you can expect someone else to have the same feelings. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 9:41:03 PM | We all get attracted physically because men are visual. Doesn't mean that a beautiful woman
will continue to hold our attention. If a woman does not have the personality or say manipulative----that pretty much kills it for me. Dates are for getting to know people and
I observe my dates closely----if I see a personal trait like being a primadonna, b***ch, etc.
There is no second date. My date has to respect me as I respect her and if we both have a good time----it can develop to something deeper. Lots of ifs though. Have had my share of
bad dates so, I go it alone. No more blind dates for me. For so long, I have been in the dark but, now that I know----I will not tolerate any bad behaviour from any woman.
I like a woman with a sense of humor, can smile as she greets you good morning, a little bit
of naughtiness doesn't hurt and she must be able to appreciate me for who I am as a person. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 9:44:33 PM | | would like to say, I talk tto all women, old, young, fat skinny, doesn't matter. I have no control over the package love comes in. I look for humor, intelligence, someone I can grow old with, be affectionate with. Who cares what they look like, it ain't like I'm some big prize either. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 11:59:23 PM | To the first part of the question: what do men look for.
I obviously can't answer for everyone, but for myself personality goes a long, long way. I have worked in the bar business for a long time and I know from many first-hand experiences that looks do nothing more than get you in the door...if that. If a woman has nothing more to offer than a pretty face...there really isn't much point in dating is there? You already know everything there is to know. They're pretty. Great.
In the end, looks fade and if there is nothing else...what do you have left?
Now to part two: how do guys feel about fat women.
Once again, I can't answer for everyone. I also think we need to define "fat". Are we talking about what society considers fat or are we talking about a level of obesity that is very unhealthy? I know a lot of guys who are certainly open to friendship with someone who is over weight, but nothing more. My personal opinion of what is attractive and what society considers attractive often diverge greatly. I have no desire to date someone who is built like a 10 year-old boy. I want to date a woman, who is built like a woman. Hips, breasts...these are good things. BUT. I do my best to take care of my body, to be healthy and to be attractive, and I would expect anyone I am with to do the same.
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Posted: 5/18/2005 12:08:34 AM | Well not all fat women sit on a couch and eat chocolate cake!! I'm fat 'cause i have a disease. I exercise 3-5 times a week! i don't get out of breathe at all!!!! i don't eat junk food hardly ever | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 5:35:09 AM | | Nobody is saying that all fat women are so because of laziness. We are saying that you are not what we are looking for, that's all. And we shouldn't be bashed because of it. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 9:59:35 AM | i was referring to someone else not every man in the world... I was explaining to a guy that not all fat women r lazy and eat!!! | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 1:33:05 PM | | You must have posted a lot more forums than me. So many people have read your stuff and from my point of view. It's getting me upset and stuff, they are too depressing. Your forum is everywhere here. You have so much to say and It sound's like that you are begging for sympathy. I wasn't begging for any sympathy here. I don't know what else to say :( | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 5:30:16 PM | : you know for you guys to say that..
( youd rather have a show case then a lover. )
so you saying that pretty women aren't good lovers? I know alot of men GOOD men that dated heavy women ,and ****ed all about how they treated them so great cause they took what they could get. NOT saying all do the same thing. BUT I know alot of good looking women,that don't have a problem admitting to imperfections, but we sure as hell don't use being heavy as an excuse. if it's a problem for you,cause you dont understand why people want physical attraction,then maybe it's time to do something about it. its not only heavy women or ugly people that have these problems. yeah alot of people sit back n say dam she's hot, or dam he's hot. maybe low self esteem shouldnt be a problem,and people wouldnt feel *neglected*fat people, skinny people we all have the same BS with other people, thats when your judgement comes in. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 5:43:16 PM | | wish I never would have seen some of this, so you think ALL pretty women cheat? well honey I've had some of my best *overweight* friends cheat on their lovers to. us smaller people get the same problems, you're to skinny, Id break you, do you eat? come on we all get it if you don't like it, change it, SIMPLE! Or just stop looking at the wrong people | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 6:31:46 PM | Thanks to all the sincere and caring men out there! I originally read the first thread of this message with a sense of fear... expecting some frightful responses and yes, there were a few, well two and you Dinosaur and a couple of others outright told them so!
Thank you very much. I suppose I love chivalry and feel as though you've stood up for us gals who are trying to better ourselves due to the fact that our bodies may not be as beautiful as some other women's bodies. Yet, once people get to know me, they see so much beauty that I have to offer. I'm just hoping that one day a man may discover the whole beauty of me.
So, once again... thanks :) | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 8:34:20 PM | | Who r u rtalking about Reebox??? | |
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Posted: 5/18/2005 11:06:35 PM | I will say something that fat people are not going to want to hear. Not slighty rounded people but fat people. Most often a fat person tells us a little something about about who they really are inside. Most fat people....
Don't care about there health
Don't take care of themselves
Don't care how they look
Don't have and energetic outlook
Don't have a high self esteem etc...
Who wants a fat mate other than those that are fat themselves?
"True beauty is on the inside?" That's just something ugly people say. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2005 12:28:49 AM | | guys like a girl who does not type in all caps | |
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