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Posted: 6/6/2007 5:56:35 AM | With respect to the last three post above, I think that it comes down to THIS:
Some people, many, but not all, live highly materialistic lives/lifestyles. These lifestyles require a high amount of expenses per year. The money has to come from either a) the man (old style model), b) both (the normal modern model) or c) the woman (??).
Women who wish this high cost lifestyle can either achieve it on their own, or contribute 50% or so ti it in an SO situation or seek and find an SO or BFs who provide it for them. That is in exchange for sex? Yuck! That has nothing to do with love or even attraction. It is business to say the least! Sex is not something women give to men as a commodity for tangible returns. That may have been the way things were.
Fortunately, most people, men and women do not heavily materialistic lives thus they do not have to subordinate their love choices to financial and other non-love related parameters.
That of course does not mean that there are not many men still around who are satisfied (??) or happy to be with "trophy" GFs or wives in their "trophy cars" and "trophy houses" and "trophy everything", even though they know they were "chosen" for their net worth or they choose to deceive themselves that they are "loved". Love and lots of money do not mix, same as beer and wine.
The best things in life are free or almost free (not sold or bought with money). Some people may be too captalistic to not realize that capitalism is not what they think it is. That is "heretical" capitalism. Ie they are "heretical" capitalists!!! lol | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 6:17:17 AM | | I believe our cultural teachings to both men and women give way to why men go for beauty and women for security. The messages are everywhere. The prettier she is the better chance she will have at getting the man she wants. The wealthier he is the greater chance he will have at getting the woman he wants. Marrying with security in mind is only a practical way of choosing a partner. I wouldn't marry some homeless chick and I'm sure a gal isn't looking to hook up with the guy who works at Dunkin Donuts. Anna Nicole was clearly out for one thing, but hey!!!! the old coot got what he wanted and Anna was working at getting what she wanted so where's the wrong in that? You get what you attract in life and that's that. I too look to see what a woman does for an income. If she's living with a family member because she just lost her job then I look at her no further. I am not looking for a liability but rather someone who can shoulder up with me in life. One of the very first questions a gal asks me is what do I do for a living. There is nothing wrong in that. But the gal I am looking for has got to be interested in the me me first and then the bank account me later on down the road if she finds me being the kind of fellow she is looking for. I want to be wanted for my worth as a person and not on how deep my pockets are. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 6:32:59 AM | re the previous post:
"I believe our cultural teachings to both men and women give way to why men go for beauty and women for security. The messages are everywhere. The prettier she is the better chance she will have at getting the man she wants. The wealthier he is the greater chance he will have at getting the woman he wants."
What she/he wants? What is what she/he REALLY wants?
"Marrying with security in mind is only a practical way of choosing a partner."
And where is the LOVE in this? Love and marriage, do they actually have anything to do with each other? Not according to this rationale. It is rationales like this which make me stay single.
"I wouldn't marry some homeless chick and I'm sure a gal isn't looking to hook up with the guy who works at Dunkin Donuts."
The poster speaks for himself.
"You get what you attract in life and that's that"
We could do 50 pages on that. Let's not!
"I too look to see what a woman does for an income."
I look what she does not for income but because her chosen work says things about her and her interests and experiences in life.
"If she's living with a family member because she just lost her job then I look at her no further. I am not looking for a liability but rather someone who can shoulder up with me in life"
That is consistent with an "arranged" marriage type of marriage approach. Where's the love or the Eros? We have in love with people or their income status or job status?
"One of the very first questions a gal asks me is what do I do for a living. There is nothing wrong in that. But the gal I am looking for has got to be interested in the me me first and then the bank account me later on down the road if she finds me being the kind of fellow she is looking for. I want to be wanted for my worth as a person and not on how deep my pockets are."
Well, if the poster wants that, then the approach used does not help to know why he is chosen: Out of Eros or Love or for Income or Job Status? Cannot have a pie and eat it too.
All I am saying that the decision process model the poster is describing as being dominant in the US today does leave one wondering: Does he/she really love ME and why did she/he REALLY marry me? Because many people can act being "in love". And for many years. And that's the truth.
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Posted: 6/6/2007 6:33:21 AM | DancingQueen,
If you are a male and you cannot provide financially for your woman, she will leave your ass.
WHOAH! No clarification needed, as one's true feelings/perspective comes out before putting it out there with political correctness. I like blunt honesty.
A guy has to provide financially for a woman? Are women that weak, or are women just players? If a woman needs a guy who is to provide for her, before even meeting him, then obviously it's not just to supplement her income and-thats-it. With those pre-emptive thoughts in mind, a "safe" choice would be a guy who's in the very least upper-middle class.
If a woman doesn't want to date you but wants to date someone who is more financially successful, then lots of times, there are men who will call those women "gold diggers"
What about women who don't really want to date a rich guy himself, but want to date that guy because of what he represents with his money and/or entourage? After all, if she's going to leave his ass if he can't financially provide FOR her, then wouldn't that make them all gold diggers? I don't think all women want a guy to financially provide FOR her.
You can take any pretty "trophy-wife" out there and there will be guys who have lots of bling-bling that they don't wish to persue, and some guys who match them perfectly who are "merely" financially stable that they'll be willing to persue, despite their constant itch to scratch with a platinum credit card. Looks and personality is always at least some sort of factor, if the person's askew or great on either one of them. But that's not the point...
I don't think most women are the stereotypical gold-diggers as bitter guys may see it. However, I do think that there are a lot of women who are more attracted to a guy who is MORE than financially stable. In my opinion, Gold Digging comes in two flavors -- and the 2nd flavor has it's degrees.
1) Passive Gold-Digger: A woman who needs a guy to provide financially FOR her. It doesn't mean tons of bling-bling... but her tastes are common of the modern day woman. But since she cannot provide for herself, this is a requirement -- looks & personality come second. The guy could be financially stable on his own, but if she reads that it may be a struggle to provide for her as well if she were to settle down with him right then and there, he's not an option to date.
2) Strong Gold-Digger: A guy who provides financially for her? Well, that's a given for this gal, even if she doesn't need a guy to technically provide her with the basics, but thankfully this stereotypical gold-digger isn't the common one. She likes bling-bling, but may not know it because she can always point to certain people (many times famous) who have or desire more bling-bling than she does. She'd feel empty or missing out on something in life if she didn't have a man who could buy her new jewelry, Gucci items, and basically fit the mold of a guy that the stylish pampered women crave. She likes to keep up with the Joneses. She may be able to fend for herself when it comes to her basic needs, but when it comes to the toys in life? She definitely is drawn to a guy with some cash! | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 6:47:37 AM |
Are the majority of women out there truly gold diggers? Guys, how many of you have dated "gold digging" women. What % of women you date are like this? Are younger or older women worse with this?
The basic trade off is sex for resources (money). So while men appreciate women who are not money hungry, so do women appreciated men who are not strictly sex hungry. There has to be more to the relationship that just this, if it is to survive.
With this understanding, knowing that finances are a factor in a woman choosing a man, just as a woman turning a man is very important to men, I'd say no, few women re gold diggers. However, I have dated a few.
My estimate (without any scientific basis): 5-10% of women are evil gold-diggers --picking a man purely for monetary reasons--no other.
My definition of a gold digger is a woman who is specifically interested in taking as much money from a man as she can, often with minimal compensation (sex) for the man. Anna Nicole Smith was a gold-digger, Marilyn Monroe was not. Each married wealthy men, one did it for the money.
There is a middle ground. Women who want the relationship first, but have a bail-out strategy of taking a man for as much as she can get. A number of divorced women seem to to believe that philosophy--first time for love, second time for money. Some men might call these women "Gold-Diggers". A prenuptial agreement provides protection here and prevents women from "changing the contract" later on.
Some men call women who date just for a "free meal" without any real interest in seeing the guy later, gold-diggers. I have seen a lot of this. Many women see that it is their God given right to take a man in small ways like this. But later in life, the tables turn and unattached women have a hard time getting dates--so that balances out.
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Posted: 6/6/2007 7:02:50 AM | I'm sorry but even the women here who are not admitted gold diggers often have an exagerrated idea about how dating is supposed to go...ie: dinner and a movie etc...
These women may not be gold diggers but they don't understand( or rarely want) true gender equality. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 7:13:40 AM | Well........the fact is that even if you are the ugliest man in the world, if you are also a multi-millionaire or a billionaire you can have a stunningly beautiful wife, and several hundred others waiting in line.
Do you honestly think Donald Trump, Paul McCartney and Larry King would have the stunners they do on their arm if they worked at Denny's?
Did Anna Nicole Smith marry that 92 year old man for his mind? Hell no. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 7:57:13 AM | Okay what if it is the other way round?
Recently received an email from a person whose profile is only short of saying "dripping with dosh". It is a nice polite email... no profanity or any sexual innuendo at all just a simple hello. Under any other circumstances I would have happily replied to this until I began reading this thread.
Do I reply to this polite email? Or if he is genuine why would he want to advertise his wealth to attract a gold digger? | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:07:09 AM | For the last couple of years I have worked the summer seasons in Jackson Hole, WY.
JH has the highest per capita income in the USA. Women are insulted if the man doesn't spend a minimum of $200 on a date. And, they probably go out with him just to be seen in the most expensive clubs...
When I lived in Hawaii I overheard a woman bragging about how many lobster dinners she had gotten that week. Shortly thereafter I met a woman in the Hilton bar. Her first question was "What do you do?" When I told her that I was a basic working class dude she pointedly said "Then why are you even talking to me?" (I apparently mistook her for a human being.)
Years ago I was doing research on a book on interpersonal communication when I started a video dating service. I thought it would be fun... The oldest/grossest male member screwed every girl in the service w/o ever buying them dinner. His first line was "My last wife got me for $7M." EVERY WOMAN ATE IT UP! Not one out of ten but every one of them...
While I was researching this book I read a book written for women on dating does & don'ts. She said that whoever makes the most money, male or female, should cover more of the expenses. Then she said, "but men are suckers, let them pay." I became so jaded I couldn't finish my book.
I asked my own dying mother why she never remarried and she told me that she never found a man with enough money to make her happy. She died alone in her own urine.
It seems that "gold-digging" is much more prevalent with women than men.
The Tom Arnolds are an exception. It would take a miracle for me to get it up for Roseann Barr!
I had a relatively wealthy girlfriend on Maui who I liked a lot. I moved into her luxury condo above Maalea Bay and every day she cried "I'm down to my last half million. What am I going to do?"
The fact is that we are becoming more shallow every day. Relationships are not "until death do us part." It's "until further notice." We are all consumers. We are a nation of cannibals, consuming each other.
Jaded I am. Just read my profile and you can tell that I don't take this very seriously. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:19:15 AM | I'm not a golddigger but i do expect my man to step up to the plate where finances are concerned. Why? Because I have. When i met my BF, we both had houses and/or vacation property, cars, retirement funds, upward mobility jobs. We both enjoy going to expensive restaurants ( We take turns paying) and we both love nice things.
I know he was attracted to me because I am as ambitous as he is, I enjoy being sociable like him and I'm not too hard on the eyes.
Maybe we are both golddiggers. Fotunately it's a mutually rewarding relationship :) | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:37:45 AM | Kim.. I don't think anyone begrudges someone wanting to meet someone with whom they have a need to be financially stable (i.e. pays bills, isn't under a mountain of debt), or who can take care of their own needs and desires. It's the ones that want to use the others financial status to improve their position, yet doesn't bring their own financial stability to the mix. It's nice to have expensive tastes, if you can afford them... but to look for someone who can provide them for you, when you can't for yourself, is where golddigging comes into play.
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:48:08 AM | golddigger is just a woman who will pick a guy based on finance; not so much who and how he is as a human being, just that he can provide a lifestyle for them. That exists and there are a certain amount of women who will only date/see or have sex w/u if u make a certain amount of money.
the same goes for men, who want to be taken care of or financed; an just like women its an exchange, u get a certain caliber of guy/gal-in regards to looks/ build/ sex ability/ style/etc
the people who deal w/these men and women know what they are getting into both parties do; i know guys and girls in this situation, they have to maintain a certain image, treatment of the person w/the gold and behavior. I.e. being the second fiddle the other person calling the shots having to be on call sexually and taking on all small errand and going to events u have no interest in attending.
i don't think most women are gold diggers/most guys aren't dogs; it just seems that is what is said when the person can't get a certain person or a person they are interested in is not as interested.
if a guy or girl wants to date a person w/a certain financial stability; people who can't match that sayu gold digger, just like people who don't fit the look say someone is shallow and so on. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:51:40 AM | i also think guys who have not made it a point to stabilize their careers or finances say gold digger; instead of looking at the fact they can barely finance themselves and/or kids.
but want a woman who handles her responsibilities; when they are unable to give their share, they rather attack the other person than address their own shortcomings | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 9:55:49 AM | There is a lot of misconception of the term 'gold digger' and the applicability
When looking for a definition, and in Wikipedia, the answer is the same... "A pejorative term for age disparity in sexual relationships". The most common example? younger woman and older man. Why? Because it is prostitution...he is paying her for sex
Need pop culture to support? You can buy posters "Golddigger. Like a hooker, only smarter" | |
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Posted: 6/6/2007 2:18:44 PM |
I agree with you Op and I started a thread to try qnd get to the bottom of this thought process and the funny thing is that almost every single male responded without actually reading what I wrote in the thread and just assumed that somehow I was trying to get men to admit how much money they made, when I was trying to understand just exactly how they came to the thought process that all the women they were dating were just lookign for a rich guy and what defined this "rich guy".
Well then I will try to answer it.
Men perceive forms of this behavior in women when in their teens. They notice how young women determine who the better choice of date-mate is by how those women seem to have consensus on what makes a "perfect man". They prefer the guys with money, looks, and status - usually in that order.
So to the average male (who carries this perception forward into adult life) becomes very wary of women who are seeming to be obsessed with issues of how much a money he makes, how powerful/popular/famous he is, or how great he looks. All shallow assumptions yes -- but the message of early teenage or young adult experiences is not lost on males. Most of us find women with shallow intentions to be disgusting and predictable.
Then as we grow through adults years -- we all see examples of angry and vengefule women who seem to enjoy punishing a man when they divorce him. Take his savings, take his kids, take a chunk of his income, take it all -- and leave him out in the cold. A different type of golddigger, but the end result is the same. I'm not saying all divorces are like that, but I am saying that most men have seen examples of this. So it makes us wary.
Some guys may target these kind of women for revenge sex ("use em and lose em") - but the vast majority of us are not going to give women like that the time of day. The problem is that there are smart gold-diggers out there these days who dont let on to their behavior -- and are masters at deception. Men who have been subject to women like this are like women who are subject to relationships with abusers. It leaves a mark on how we think and evaluate others.
Having seen friends who have lost their homes, happiness, and a lot of their incomes to malicious women like this -- I readily admit it effects how I look at women sometimes too. There are female predators out there. They just hunt for different end goals then the male predators do. Gold-digging is just the more overtly obvious type of it.
I think if you ask most men then they will confirm that what I have just said has a lot of truth to it, and that it does effect their perceptions and fears when it comes to relationships.Of course you can turn that around and look at how women view men that value body type, looks, willingness to to what he wants, etc.
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Posted: 6/7/2007 4:03:29 AM |
In this day and age, why does a man still have to provide financially for a woman? Historically, and this means pre-1950's, the makeup of the average family had the man being the primary breadwinner and the woman at home with children or taking the domestic duties of the home. But this isn't that time period any longer, women are not locked out of the workforce, yet the old standard of a man being the primary provider is still being enforced by a large segment of females.
While I will agree that everyone, men and women, need to bring something individual to the dating table these days, to expect that individuality to be financial wreaks of cold and calculated forethought.
The poster above me appears to be a product of her own cast system, where snobbery and disdain for those of lesser means limits her perceived options in a potential mate. It would seem that "qualifications" outweigh all other considerations, thereby reducing the dating situation to nothing more than a job interview where her loyalties go to the highest bidder. Perhaps retaining an agent to negotiate the best possible contract is an adequate analogy.
I never said a man HAD to do anything. No one has to be in a relationship. No one has to go on a date. No one has to have sex. No one has to do anything they don't want to do.
But if a man wants to keep dating and mating with a woman, he has to be able to provide financially. There is no part anywhere above where I said a man has to provide 100 percent for everything. Do you see that up above? I don't. But there is an obvious relationship between the amount of financial wealth a person has and their dating options.
You call it snobbery, I call it real life. Here's the truth. You don't actually want to f.uck all the women out there do you? You don't find all of them attractive. Some are too old for you. Some have too much baggage from old relationships and situations. Some have life circumstances you find too complicated. Some are drunks. Some are drug abusers. Some are morbidly obese. Some you have nothing in common with at all.
There are tons of women out there. But you aren't attracted to all of them. But the ones you are attracted to, guess what Einstein? Lots of other men are attracted to those women too. Simple supply and demand. The men who are more financially successful than you are have a much better chance of dating and mating with those desired women. They bring more to the table to COMPETE for those women. People date to their options. You aren't going to go off and marry a 400 pound truck stop waitress with seven kids from seven different fathers are you? No, because you can do better. You will try to date to your best option. Well so is everyone else. Don't get bitter here because you can't or won't compete for the women you want. You could call me wrong about all this - except if you go outside and just use simple observation of the world around you, what I am saying is plainly undeniable.
People treat financial success like it's some kind of disease. Like there are only rich evil people and good poor people in the world and nothing in between. Financial success often is an indicator of positive character traits. Lots of people don't inherit big money, they have to bleed and fight for it like everyone else. Usually it's a sign of hard work, commitment, drive, being goal oriented and someone who strives to be the best. These are attractive traits. Having money isn't just about big yachts and diamond rings, it's about living in a safe neighborhood where you feel safe enough to walk at night and not fear that you will be gunned down by a crack dealer. It's about sending your kids to the best schools possible. It's about having a little saved up in an emergency. It's about having options in life to do things to enjoy life. Too often in these forums, people like to try to shame others for actually having some success in life.
You can call me a snob. But it's an easy way out. It's simpler than admitting to yourself that you didn't or wouldn't have the chops to ante up to the table to compete for what you wanted in life. That's not on me, that's on you. I call myself a realist. If I have more dating options, I'll try to pick the best that I can reasonably get. This is no different from anyone else in the world. Do you go out into the world looking just for second best for anything?
How many women ask you "What do you do?" when they first meet you? Nearly all of them. Because money matters. It's the tool of life. It matters to all of us. And trying to label it with shame and fear and disgust doesn't change how the world works.
If you can't compete - well that's just real life.
If you didn't know that the dating game is all about competition, especially not knowing it at your age, then I assure you, your biggest problem in life won't be whether or not you get a date. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2007 7:22:22 AM | ^^^^^^I truly feel sorry for anyone who ends up with you. If your very first qualifier is along the lines of "what does he do, what does he make, what does he drive, is he generous, where does he live" etcetera, you will never ever truly love someone - except yourself. Disgraceful.
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Posted: 6/7/2007 7:28:46 AM | Hello NY Lady,
When I'm with a date and I'm buying I feel comfortable with the idea, but that same Lady goes in her purse and gets the next drink or tells me I'll get this. Then I know we won't ever get into a gold digger mood.   | |
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Posted: 6/7/2007 8:21:43 AM | Hi Frank,
Not sure if your post was meant for me, but I have always been under the assumption that whomever gives the invitation, whether it be the guy or the girl, they are the payer. If a guy or even my BF tells me he is taking me out for the evening, he's paying. From pre-dinner drinks to the after dinner/club drinks. If I am doing the inviting, the same goes for me. I'll take turns paying for drinks if that is established before hand, like if we mutually agreed to hang out and have a few drinks... | |
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Posted: 6/7/2007 8:26:50 AM | I have met only ONE golddigger in my life and that was my sister in-law - now things are not as rosy in their life - wonder how she feels about my brother now!!
I for one wanted to be self sufficient - I don't 'want' from anyone!!!!
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Posted: 6/7/2007 8:41:25 AM | | It's true. All women are golddiggers or have been in the past. Successful golddiggers morph into cougars, but that's another question. Some golddiggers say, * Look at me, I'm dating a poor guy, so I'm not a golddigger." My response is, " You're just eating a snack until it's time for supper!" All women want a man to pay their way and that is a fact. Don't deny it. Quit hiding the truth. All men know this and are taught this concept from birth. That's why we all love and support you golddiggers and treat you all like the whores you are. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2007 9:02:16 AM | ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL BASH U FOR THIS-im not one of them, plain and simple i think you are right; your town may not be palatable to people. But your words ring true; money and success are not the most important thing, meeting a good guy.. good father..human being..someone who can make u laugh is as important or more so; but if you can get all that and someone who can provide some financial stability, you will pick that guy.
Relationships are competition, wether we like to admit it or not; how we dress, express ourselves, our jobs, etc are part of what we do to take care of ourselves of course; but its also part of what we do to appeal to men/women. Anyone who says differently is lying to themselves; i can't imagine how many times i hear men/women complain about what they are wearing or hate formal attire, but their wearing it. Why because to not do so would be irresponsible and an immediate signal to potential suitors that you a)don't have a sense of appropriate dress and b)lack some sort of maturity. Or if u just wanna keep it simple u just won't look as good as the other people at the event/ettc; which will affect your ability to draw/appeal to the women/men u may be attracted to.
i don't compete, its not me; i think whoever likes me should like me as is, i place value on who and how i am, who and how that other person is and how we interact. An while it makes things simple it does present problems when dating, i miss out on alot of great women/or get passed up by alot of great women; because i won't "step it up". The difference between me and 95% of the men u will meet is that i don't bash the women or criticize their morals or wants/desires, they are right to want what they want and im wrong to bash them for it regardless of what it is they want. But esp when it comes to finances/etc-as stated its not just big trips and champagne and jewelry; its safety for the family in a good environment, its a future for your children (opp that they won't have if u don't have some sort of resp/accountability financially), its lights on and heat on and no debt. Money is the reason alot of marraiges fail, its a FACT; so to act as if it shouldn't play a factor in someones decision on who they date is ridiculous, esp for a woman who has seen what happens when u have kids/marraiges families w/an irresponsible and financially unsucessful man.
if u don't wanna be that guy its cool; you don't have to be, it just means your gonna have to miss out on a certain segment of women who are not gold diggers; just not interested in marrying/dating guys who can't at least offer the sense of financial responsibility.
But alot of the same men who bash these women, would want their kids to marry a ma who could provide them and have some sort of resources and management skills. But then they bash women who ask for these things, when they would expect the same for their daughters and expect their sons to provide or have these things for his wife.
think of it -there is a reason why dad's ask their daughters fiance, how do you plan on taking care of my daughter; an noone asks the woman how do u plan on taking care of my son.
An its the same for women-men don't wanna sign on w/a girl who has alot of baggage, bad money practices or does not look or carry herself a certain way or has 4-5kids; nine times out of ten these things are warning signs of bad behavior/immaturity/ irresponsibilty. An this is why people hesitate to involve themselves w/people in these situations its alot of trouble/stress and people want to find the best person, who can offer the most and be the easiest in regards to distractions/drama/etc.
the people who often complain are the people who aren't at the level or don't wanna get to a certain level are often the people complaining; its ok if u don't wanna make money or be financially stable or present urself in a certain manner (clothes/car/ etc) or for women have so many kids, dress a certain way, etc. U can do/be however you want; but don't be mad when people don't choose to date/involve themselves w/u; u made decisions in life/good or bad most of what happens to us is because of us. An u just have to deal w/the consequences of your decisions, an that might mean u not being as appealing to a certain type of man or woman; an that does not make them shallow or gold diggers or whatever. It just means they feel their are certain things they feel they want and need and u can't provide it for them or maybe u come w/things they don't want to deal w/be around. So either adjust your situation or look for someone who is willing to deal w/and accept whatever baggage/shortcomings/etc you have.
don't attack the people who choose not to involve themselves w/u; everyone has standards and if u don't fit theirs its too bad, accept it and find someone who does. Or change what your doing and meet their standards. I have no problem w/someone living how they want or making certain decisions, just don't act like u get to have your cake and eat it too... | |
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Posted: 6/7/2007 9:15:24 AM | "I don't want no scrub."
If you don't got a car and ya walkin
(oh yes son, i'm talkin to you)
If you live at home wit ya mama
(oh yes son, i'm talkin to you)
You have a shorty dat you don't show love to
(oh yes son, i'm talkin to you)
Wanna get wit me wit no money
Oh no I don't want no-
A lot of us guys, got our first experience to the gold digger complex in high school. Ever notice the guy who's mommy and daddy let him drive the Mustang every day. He had no problem filling it up with girls. Me and my little Nissan Wagon...
I even remember our little school paper and one girl writing how guys who don't own a car are not dateable. Today I look at a profile of an adult woman and still see mention of "no car, no contact me." Or the profiles now say they want someone that travels(usually abroad), must have a degree(potential sign of higher paying career), or it's someone between about the ages of 18-30 looking for guys 30-50( why is this so predominant?), "looking for a guy to treat me"
I knew one woman, whose grandmother taught her to frequently have lunch at the hospital cafeteria. Do I need to explain why?
Sometimes gold digging isn't about financial means. It's about ascending yourself through others. In a sense I don't mind this. You're trying to get yourself noticed by getting a hold of someone on the bottom of the totem pole. I think there are better ways to do this than pretend to show an interest that person when your intention is for something higher. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers
Posted: 6/7/2007 10:40:59 AM | Nope.
Over in the UK, men say that if a young woman is interested in an older man, it must be for his money. If a mature woman is interested in a young man, it must be for sex.
People say things to boost their ego. To make themselves feel better about themselves.
Ignore what people say. What they do tells you far more. | |
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