| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 1:19:22 PM | "I think that more men would like to make love to a golddigger than marry her. Why? It is way cheaper. lol. I am in neither category, tho! "
I've decided not to get married.... Instead I'm gonna find a woman I REALLY don't like and just give her half of my stuff.... it'll be much easier! | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 1:29:13 PM | Im not sure what to think here. Based on experience I have seen two sides. I am a Professional who makes really good money, almost 6 figures, but I am far from rich. I do have a big house and nice vehicles and things.
I have dated women that have said my money didnt matter to them....but once we where dating, they where always after my money...and I have dated women that never expected a thing but me...
I do not think all women are Gold Diggers, I do think the Majority of Womne are looking for a Stable, and Independant man with Security. In todays world with prices the way they are, it is hard to make it, especially on your own. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 2:40:33 PM | Every guy wants the size 4 Supermodel on his arm but these same women are not allowed to ask for a good time in return? Most of the men I have met that b1tched about woman only liking rich guys are the same men that do not open doors for you or take you to dinner on occasion or remember your birthday. Their idea of a good time is sitting on the couch watching baseball or playing video games. What an EXCITING evening!!!! Most women would prefer a night out with the girls over that. Why would any person want to date a person with no future, education or career? If you are unemployed, living in your parents basement and not even attempting to earn a living or get an education then most people will NOT be interested. That does not make us golddiggers,it makes us smart. There are plenty of men out there that earn average salaries and treat their women like gold. There are also plenty of women that prefer a kind heart and a hand with the dishes on occasion to boats, and cars and furs. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 6:12:36 PM | Message 16: Amen, sister.
Have sex with a man whose only attractive quality (attractive quality being used rather loosley here) is wealth? They haven't printed enough money for that yet. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 7:03:18 PM |
Their idea of a good time is sitting on the couch watching baseball or playing video games. What an EXCITING evening!!!! Most women would prefer a night out with the girls over that.
Right. There much more fun and interactive things to do on a couch: Make out or philosophize or both!!!  | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 8:00:46 PM | well first you have to have the cash for a goldigger to find you then they will come...been there done that... she got alot of my cash...lessons learned... from another viewpoint...why did you let her do it ...stupidity now then it was love
live and learn...
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/8/2007 9:54:59 PM | I saw this thread earlier, and had been thinking about it during the day. Being a fan of Ayn Rand and the Objectivist philosophy, I don't think of money as inherently evil, quite the opposite in fact. I admire people that make money, they've earned it, and these are people that are not only envied, but should be emulated too. I've always liked that saying about how, Money can't buy you happiness, but it does let you rent it."
As for golddiggers, here's what I came up with...lets say I was able to buy a top of the line car, a real show piece. Now if someone sees me out driving that car and thinks, "Hey, that guy must have his finances together to be able to afford to drive a car like that. He must have planned ahead and is doing pretty well for himself." I don't see that as being gold-digging; I see it as someone who appreciates that I used my brains and my earnings power to get something I wanted. If someone sees me driving that car and thinks, "Hey, that guy has enough money to afford that, so what can he buy for me?" Now that's a golddigger! And I would have no interest at all, no matter how attractive she was. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/9/2007 3:48:08 AM | I think if he's describing women like it's becuase he doesn't really get to know them and is probably a cheapskate who's idea of a date is a pizza delivery at his place on the FIRST date. I doubt he gets to know women before wants to jump her bones within a week. We all do, but women take more time to get to know, especially with the internet connection. Maybe they're very ambitious and he was intimidated by that ambition. If you make money, it doesn't matter, becuase if you find out that she's all about money, usually you can tell. But those complaints must be coming from you if you don't make much and get mad becuase you're getting nowhere with her while spending money. Hey, as long as I have a good time on the date, I'm fine.
I think that if she's a gold digger, than he's after Sex. seems to me that these are the myths between men and women, lol | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/9/2007 7:20:24 AM | carolann0308,
Every guy wants the size 4 Supermodel on his arm but these same women are not allowed to ask for a good time in return? Good point, but I think that's not what guys complain about. If a guy's looking for a "trophy wife", then obviously he can't complain about her being a gold-digger. In fact, it's expected. Even the most complaining guy on here agrees with this, and it isn't the issue.
Most of the men I have met that b1tched about woman only liking rich guys are the same men that do not open doors for you or take you to dinner on occasion or remember your birthday. There's a difference between the unhealthy needs of some women when it comes to guys, and who many of the guys are who complain about it. Those guys aren't great guys to date, and ladies who can be totally charmed by being financially pampered aren't either (unless you are looking for such a gal).
Why would any person want to date a person with no future, education or career? If you are unemployed, living in your parents basement and not even attempting to earn a living or get an education then most people will NOT be interested. Again, that's not what the debate's about. I think a lot of guys in those situations are not the ones doing the complaining, because they know they've got a lot to do in order to take hold of some life accomplishments and stability. I think a lot of the guys complaining about it are the middle-class guys who don't have that boat that wooed their girl over, or guys who DO have money who realize, after-the-fact, that the gal only liked him because of his money and lost interest when he had a more frugal mindset.
That does not make us golddiggers,it makes us smart. People aren't defining ladies as golddiggers that way, you know that. The debate is about women who aren't interested in or persue a middle-income guy, and equate "stability" and "goals" with being way beyond that and having enough wealth to buy bling-bling. It's the "stability" of buying bling-bling at the drop of the hat, so she can keep up with the Jonses. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/9/2007 7:30:51 AM | to say golddiggers apply just to women is silly ,fools and money are easily parted i,d like to think i could spot it happening and thank god its never has happened to me ,but have seen mates (both male and female) hurt by such ppl and all 1 can do is say something to them i personately would prefere a woman who knows her selfworth ,the man who has her has truelly struck gold | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 6:51:39 AM | (87) we don't have many golddiggers here in the suburbs of youngstown, ohio. (between cleveland and pittsburgh). we have survivorists. it's not like the south of florida by any stretch of the mind. if you earn $30,000 a year you're considered a very good catch!!! if we see someone in a jaguar we figure that person must be a doctor. so no golddiggers, just people trying to figure out how the hell to GET TO SOUTH FLORIDA!!  | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 7:14:07 AM | | to be a golddigger the man would have to have gold. And there hasn't been gold in them there hills,only in their P brain and not in their pockets! | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 11:24:52 AM | Right. There much more fun and interactive things to do on a couch: Make out or philosophize or both!!! SIMPLE ANSWERS FOR SIMPLE MINDS. Broaden your thoughts to absorb a little of others comments instead of thinking the world should revolve around your views. Clitisizing is obviously a big part of your personality | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 12:20:48 PM | goldiggers are ****es...and if there's one thing I've learned...it's that ****es aint shit.
And yes ladies...thanks to the media you immerse yourselves in and the lies your daddy told you when he treated you like a princess all your formative years...most of you have a certain amount of digger in you...sorry...truth hurts.
And yes...men are pigs...but at least we do it for free!!! | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 2:09:43 PM | | Hate to break this to you, but not all of our daddies treated us like princesses. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 2:28:57 PM | I was listening to a radio talk show late one night while driving across the state.
The theory was based on a man's annual salary.
_if a man's annual salary is $70,000 or greater. He's more likely to have a woman who has a nicely shaped body and descent looks. _if a man's annual salary is $30,000 or less. He's more likely have a woman who is over-weight/obese.
The example the radio talk show host gave several examples: successful actors, politicians, businessmen, musicians......or any man that has money, power, or fame tends to attract the best looking women.
of course this subject brought in a lot of phone calls from listeners...it proved to be interesting. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 2:49:17 PM | successful actors, politicians, businessmen, musicians......or any man that has money, power, or fame tends to attract the best looking women.
What about their female equivalents? What type of men do they "tend" to attract?
You gotta love those talk radio philosophers and social researchers for their scientific sampling methodology! Nobel worthy in probability and statistics, not!
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 2:53:18 PM | Jr I would be very interested in what the body types of the men were as well. I would also think that a lack of money could impact a married couple with bad diet, long hours at more menial type jobs resulting in less time for physical fitness, stress and health issues. I am sure that just as many ugly women were interested but couldnt get past his criteria as well! So he gets to choose what will make him happy and meet his criteria for a potential life partner but women are supposed to take anything that comes along? Interesting....... | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 8:15:32 PM | So I actually went ahead and read most of the posts on this thread, really interesting stuff! Gender roles are just so pervasive, it's hard to sort out what we ought to believe in, from what's simply been constructed for us to believe as we've grown up and the systems of our culture have filtered our intellectual processes. I suspect, though, that for a woman to expect a man's financial support is no different than for a man to expect a woman's financial support.
Though, I do wish to point out that certain points in life are better suited to certain objectives, both financially and otherwise. As well, being mindful of the general need to mature and become a financially stable person, such security is, at most, a necessary but not a sufficient condition for entering into a serious relationship in which financial obligations are shared. Financial success is an indication of whatever motivated a given person to achieve it. Ironically, these motives are highly diverse, and to the extent that material wealth is treated as an end-in-itself, they are usually unhealthy.
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 9:58:02 PM | | msg 91...that's why I said "most". Bottom line, unless you're enlightened or have been spared the brainwashing...AND you've overcome a certain amount of that natural, animalistic need of reasurrance of access to resources...then there's a good chance you've got at least a little digger in all of you! | |
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| About princesses and princes! Posted: 6/10/2007 10:13:35 PM | | It's OK for a woman to be a princess as long as her daddy or mom are king and/or queen of "something" or at least run a Principaute (like the one in Southern France)! Othwerwise, a princess or a prince w/o a Principaute is basically a "royal" in exile or an "ex-royal". Hard to adjust to life as a "commoner". Royals do not have money ie are not golddiggers. They have palaces, courts and loyal followers. I hope that this clears the issue, me being an expert on the topic!! lol | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/10/2007 10:19:32 PM | | Many Women in the Vancouver area are hardcore gold diggers; If you approach a women and within the first 3 lines of dialog you've been asked what you drive. Clearly she's a gold digger. Coments made by chemistryNkisses are accurately made. Women will often cop out, or detour or redirect the issue into being something else- but the reality of it is more and more women are becoming gold diggers- and placing themselfs on this rediculous pedistal and for what? To be alone alot of the time due to these rediculous self-standards. I wonder if its worth it, hmmmm.. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/11/2007 4:03:57 AM |
"Are the majority of women out there truly gold diggers? "
I didn't used to believe it.
I've lost a lot of my interest in women over the past year, though. They tend to fall into three categories - golddigger, ****ed-up or too demanding.
I play a lot of pool now. | |
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| The truth about golddiggers Posted: 6/11/2007 4:38:05 AM | For what its worth,i tend to think this is a natural urge of all humans to find the best deal possible for themselves (both men and women)its just the way our brains are wired through evolution etc.for example;a women who is attractive,glamorous etc will realize that she can have a tremendously high standard of living by mixing with and eventually selecting an upwardly mobile male.Is she wrong in doing this? of course not,in my opinion,but she should NOT call it a genuine love AS THIS IS LOVE UNDER A CERTAIN SETOF CONDITIONS and it takes either great bravery or a brash arrogance to admit this.Another form of golddigging(although golddigging is probably an incorrect termfor this)is when a female who is for example making 40,000 per annum totally dismisses the idea of having a relationship with a male who perhaps earns THE SAME as she does ,based solely on income,in favour of someone who is making perhaps 60,000 knowing he could afford her a more materialistic lifestyle&pamper her more often with more expensive gifts ,.dates etc As previously stated i do not think many women actually plan consciously for this (although a small minority do)its just them answering a natural urge to find the most suitable male to help rear offspring,which in this modern world equates to the one with the most resources.Obviously theres always exceptions to this rule,but you can bet that if a women has the ability to attract a wealthy guy then,unless the wealthy guy is really unpleasant etc ,she will always plump for him over mr lovelypersonalitybutonlyaworkingstiffguy | |
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