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Posted: 9/12/2007 9:20:30 PM | You guys seemed to have missed what Jesus said:
Matthew 5:18-19 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Heaven and Earth have not passed, and Jesus did not fulfill all the Messianic prophecies (IMO, he fulfilled none of them). By Jesus' own words the Law is still in effect. Anyone who teaches men to break the commandments (e.g. Paul or Peter) shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven.
But pork is tasty so Christians will stuff their faces with bacon while condemning homosexuals. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2007 9:35:17 PM |
As I said, ". . .the Christian needs only the divinely inspired Holy Bible to know YHWH. Knowledge or ignorance of Judaism, whether it's referred to as Talmudism, or Pharisaism...
I've never heard of Talmudism or Pharisaism...except coincidently on anti-Semitic hate sites. Interesting. They don't show up as religions in any mainstream scholarly work on religious studies either...what an interesting surprise that in a casual Googling, it doesn't turn up except in the pejorative sense as an archaic term now used only by those trying to disparage or otherwise invalidate the Jewish faith. Either that or full-blown fringe individuals who still quote from the "Protocols".
Michna Sanhedrin 11:3
Wow...I'm prophetic. One of the most often referred to and misquoted statements from the Talmud quoted, not surprisingly in the thoroughly debunked Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, a racist handbook from the turn of the last century. Is my lack of surprise showing.
Michna Sanhedrin 11:3, "It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than those of the Torah." . . .and for good measure "Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell."
Howabout a site that provides some ACCURATE information on the Talmud and not the bullsh*t quotes you provided from some goose-stepping zone?
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/
Firstly, neither of those come from the place you cited. You and your source are completely wrong. End of story. Duh. If you go through the trouble to cherrypick false material from the Talmud, at least get your false information from the right book  so you don't look like a complete dribbling fool.
Try Talmud Eruvin 21b
(Ecclesiastes 12:12) "And extensive study (lahag) is physically exhausting." Rav Papa bar Rav Acha bar Ada said in the name of Rav Acha bar Ula: This teaches that everyone who mocks (mal'ig) the words of the sages will be punished in burning excrement. Rava attacked: It does not say la'ag but lahag. Rather, whoever studies (hogeh) them will taste delectable meat.
The accusation crucially mistranslates "mocks" as "disobeys" which changes the meaning of the passage. The accusation also neglects to point out that the statement is disproven. However, the point still remains that, as demanded in Deuteronomy 17:8-13, Jews must follow the rulings of their judges i.e. the rabbis.
Again if you really gave a crap about your co-religionists instead of just condemning their beliefs as wrong you might not have made such a simple mistake.
Rabbi Hertz's statement is in perfect harmony with Rabbi Wise, and Harmsworth History, among many other Jewish sources. The Talmud came out of Babylon, not Judah.
Again, two cherrypicked quotes taken wildly out of their original context..."many other Jewish sources" - that's a throwaway comment. Again the only locality I found a reference to this quote was equally cherrypicked and was lined up with someone referencing the Dearborn Independent. I don't think I have to say much more about that to those in the know...cough cough Ford cough cough Free Protocols with every new Model T cough cough. Let's take a look at the other...
"Judaism is not the religion of the Bible" -Judaism and the Christian Predicament.pg. 159 by Rabbi Bokser
Some of the sites quoting this...bible-believers.org. No surprise.
Stormfront - The American neo-nazi white power movement... also no surprise
missiontoisrael.org - new covenant theology...people who preach that an anglo-saxon white race are the new chosen people...
Now here's a shock. An advocate of the Talmud mocking the Holy Spirit. There are no vague and incomprehensible sections of The Bible. You just say there are, and you're incorrect.
Not the Holy Spirit, if there is such a thing, only mocking your observation that to interpret a text that one would use "pure inspiration" as a more reliable source than knowledge of the original language, context, cultural tradition, relevant additional documents, etc. and other historical material. I prefer Occam's Razor to making up fairy tales.
everything else you are babbling on about can be explained without any Edomite Talmudist weighing in, I'm not gonna waste any more time on it. All that garble is just a load of Pharisee's leaven.
Edomite Talmudist...
I think it's pretty evident where the argument is coming from. Plain and simple. For your religious beliefs to be vindicated, those of the Jews must be reviled and discredited and thus you have convinced yourself through a convoluted fairytale argument that no mainstream scholar would take seriously.
and the Anglo-Celtic, northern European Christian people, and their descendants, are were Israel is found today.
Yeah. Sure. I'd dearly love to see the DNA results for that. Let me guess, they are the Ten Lost tribes right? Where have I heard this before. New Covenant Theology?
The basic answer to the OP's question is simple. NT verses provide an out for the food laws that were restrictive to those ordered in Torah and expounded upon further in the Oral Law. Whether you or your particular fringe cult of Christianity believe in it is beside the point. I prefer to observe what mainstream scholarship has to say on the subject and if I need a good reference on the Jewish belief system I will ask a rabbi, thanks all the same.
In addition to how you hypocritically (and falsely) accuse me of taking the thread off topic (which you did) I also find it amusing you also accuse me of the above with no basis, considering you are the one telling me I can't interpret my Bible the right way unless a Jew tells me how. If that's not claiming exclusivity of truth, I don't know what is.
Matthew 23:15
Well it's not just YOUR Bible. That's the problem. The Scriptures were first written by another group altogether. You are free to interpret them how you like, but stating that your view of them is the sole true one is both unprovable and off-limits here. I would no more do that than I would hope you would...though through your disenfranchising of the people who wrote what the Christians refer to as the Old Testament, no matter how you choose to soft-soap it, it would seem you prefer to find wiggle room to do it anyway. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2007 11:10:04 PM |
This has become
Get back on track or it shuts down - last I saw , this was the topic
How many of the Christians on here eat pork? Muslims don't, Jews don't but my local evangelical congregation just had a pig roast,how come?
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Posted: 9/13/2007 9:50:01 AM | I really think it`s very essential to become vegetarian for spiritual advancement, and probably vegan these days, due to the way they treat the poor milk cows .
No Meat is clean. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 2:20:16 AM |
I'm not bound by the Law.
Jesus on the cross did away with the "law"
Acording to Matthew 5, in Jesus' own words he didn't... and those teaching people not to follow it are the least in heaven...
Can Jesus be the least in heaven?
Are you part of the new covenant?
If so, what is written on your heart? | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 3:09:42 AM |
Are you part of the new covenant?
If so, what is written on your heart?
The law of faith is what is written on the heart, which manifests the commandment of love as its fruit..
Jesus made it quite clear that the Torah law was to kept entirely if a person was to live by it. Unfortunately for the Torah law idolizers, this has not been done since AD 70 when the Temple was destroyed. with no Temple in Jerusalem the law could not be kept in its entirety as in keeping many requirements of the law a temple in Jerusalem was necessary.
Jesus told the disciples in matthew 24 that the temple would be destroyed bringing a final physical close to the end of the age/world( covenant of the Torah law). And this is exactly what happened as prophesied throught the entire chapter. | |
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| Food and religion
Posted: 9/23/2007 4:54:59 AM | Looks like it wandered way off topic again ....
The only Christian connection to food I've heard of is the practice of eating fish on Friday. I dont know about other countries but its very common in the UK and I was told it was something to do with Jesus and fish. Hey it was a long time ago and I dont remember the details.
But we do have; Mormons avoiding caffeinated and alcoholic beverages and chocolate I believe.
The majority of Seventh Day Adventists don’t eat meat or dairy products, and are likely to avoid many condiments including mustard. Those that do eat meat don’t eat pork.
In addition to the Judaism stuff thats being covered, ie pork and shellfish etc. The consumption of certain foods, including dairy products and fish, is subject to restrictions; for example, there are rules forbidding the mixing and consumption of dairy products with meats. A lot of the Kashrut laws do make sense from the point of view of food safety. Bad pork and shellfish are two of the biggest nasty food poisoners going.
Now Islam has all sorts of rules ... The list of haram foods (ie those prohibited) includes pork, alcohol, foods that contain emulsifiers (as emulsifiers may be made from animal fats), tinned vegetables that include emulsifiers, frozen vegetables with sauce, particular margarines, and bread or bread products that contain dried yeast.
Gelatine can be made from pig and, since pork is haram, products containing gelatine are forbidden. Caffeinated drinks such as coffee are sometimes considered haram.
Certain religious dates, such as Eid al-Fitr, demand fasting from dawn till dusk. Some Muslims choose to fast on Mondays or Thursdays or both. The month of Ramadan requires mandatory fasting during sunlight hours, as do particular dates of religious significance, such as the ninth day of Zul Hijja.
‘Food is God (Brahman)’ is a common Hindu saying. Food is thought to be an actual part of Brahman, rather than simply a Brahman symbol. Foods contain energies such as sound waves that can be absorbed by the person who eats them - the Hindu religion takes literally the maxim ‘You are what you eat’. According to the Hindu religion, violence or pain inflicted on another living thing rebounds on you (Karma). In keeping with the aim to avoid violence or pain to any living thing, vegetarianism is advocated, but not compulsory. Prohibited animal products tend to vary from one country or region to the next; for example, duck and crab may be forbidden in one geographical location, but not in another. Foodstuffs such as alcohol, onions and garlic are thought to inhibit the Hindu’s quest for spiritual enlightenment by exciting the body and leading to acts which may have Karmic impact, and are therefore avoided or restricted. While beef is forbidden, dairy products including milk, butter and yoghurt are considered to enhance spiritual purity. Fasting depends on the person’s caste (or social standing) and the occasion; for example, rules regarding fasting depend on whether the day has religious or personal significance.
In his lives on Earth, Buddha cycled through various animal forms before he took on the form of a human being - this is why most Buddhists are vegetarian.
Similarly to the Hindu concept of Karma, Buddhism proposes that violence or pain inflicted on others will rebound on you, further strengthening the need for a vegetarian lifestyle. Some Buddhists believe that the cause of human aggression is violence against animals. Some Buddhists avoid meat and dairy products, while others only shun beef. Religious dates vary from one region to the next. Mahayana Buddhism, for example, celebrates three festivals for the birth, enlightenment and death of Buddha, while Theravada Buddhists observe all three events on a single day.
Buddhist monks tend to fast in the afternoon. Buddhist monks and nuns aren’t allowed to cultivate, store or cook their own food; instead, they must rely on ‘alms’, which are donations from believers. This sometimes includes meats, as monks and nuns aren’t allowed to ask for specific foods. Traditionally, meat from bears, dogs, elephants, horses, hyenas, lions, panthers, snakes and tigers are strictly prohibited to Buddhist monks and nuns.
Now me .. I eat anything ...
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Posted: 9/23/2007 8:22:31 AM | | pork....yummy...pork fat is so good how can it be forsaken by God....that is why God need to send us Jesus...that old testiment section on what we can and can not eat...can't eat seafood with out fins....can't eat animal with cloven hoofs...it was all before God gave us Jesus...in the old testiment even murder was ok for certain crimes against the book...and murder is not ok | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 3:49:39 AM | So, you are saying that God changed his word...
Something scripture states he would never do...
And therfore, the bible is not infallable. | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 9:58:23 AM |
So, you are saying that God changed his word...
Something scripture states he would never do...
And therfore, the bible is not infallable.
For one,
the bible is not the true Word of God...the true Word of God is 'Logos' made flesh...Jesus Christ....the scriptures are God's inspired word...lets not make an idol out of the scrripture.
for two,
God never changed His word either according to scripture. The word from the beginning has always been according to faith and the covenant was first made with Abraham. It was man who changed it into law, which caused God to hand down His righteous requirement of law to the Israelites..
The covenant of faith was in place 400 years before the law....so if you are going to hold to the promise that God would never change His word...then you should be looking at what God first spoke as His word to Abraham.
For three,
'owlam' is a Hebrew word used for 'forever' in the Old Testament...but it does not mean forever as in the eternal sense..it is used to dignify a period of time or an age...just as it is used in Jonah's situation....
Jonah 2:6
To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever(owlam). But you brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God.
Here is an article below, I would strongly recommend as reading, whether you agree or not is on what God is revealing to you at this time in your life....but in my experience I have found that it is always in our own best interests to keep an open spirit to receive and grow...otherwise years of stagnation can keep us missing out on many blessings that God desires to share with us.
http://askelm.com/doctrine/d070101.htm
The article is titled... 'Idolatry - The Curse of Religion' and I personally agree with what is being taught.
If you want to understand more of where I am coming from and what my spiritual position is by my faith, then it would be in your interest to read it, in order that you could set me straight if necessary....wouldn't you agree? | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 10:46:46 AM |
Here is an article below, I would strongly recommend as reading, whether you agree or not is on what God is revealing to you at this time in your life....but in my experience I have found that it is always in our own best interests to keep an open spirit to receive and grow...otherwise years of stagnation can keep us missing out on many blessings that God desires to share with us.
http://askelm.com/doctrine/d070101.htm
The article is titled... 'Idolatry - The Curse of Religion' and I personally agree with what is being taught.
My mistake...I posted the wrong article and link
here is the correct one...
The Dietary Laws of the Bible
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d040402.htm | |
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Posted: 9/28/2007 9:49:01 AM |
For one,
the bible is not the true Word of God...the true Word of God is 'Logos' made flesh...Jesus Christ....the scriptures are God's inspired word...lets not make an idol out of the scrripture.
So Jesus nullifing God's law or saying that we are not to follow it , by your own deffinition, would be saying that we are not to follow Christ... or that Christ is not the same yesterday today and forever
I make no Idol out of Scripture.. My only desire is a life like Christ, henceforth I need to know what Christ is and what Christ isn't. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2007 10:07:19 AM |
I make no Idol out of Scripture.. My only desire is a life like Christ, henceforth I need to know what Christ is and what Christ isn't.
Being like Christ is about walking in the Spirit..
Have you read the link in my past post...dietary laws of the bible? | |
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Posted: 9/28/2007 12:47:59 PM |
The Dietary Laws of the Bible
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d040402.htm
consigliere31's reference is a good one, basically the Food Laws of the Old Testament from a Christian point of view. It includes discussion of much of what is covered in this thread.
However, part of the article implies that the Kosher laws are too hard to keep:
The fact is, no one claiming to keep the clean food laws of the Bible could go into any ordinary restaurant to eat and come away as a law-keeper. If he wanted to obey the law, he would have to limit himself to eating in a strict Jewish (kosher) establishment or possibly a vegetarian one which was very meticulous in its vegetarianism. I don't know that this is such a severe restriction. First of all, food at a kosher establishment is invariably delicious! And they're not hard to find in any large city. Second, this implies very strict adherence to the laws, to a point where no contamination at all is possible. This is a surely the way an orthodox Jew would do it, but I don't know if one has to go that far. My personal choice is to follow the laws as stated, but feel free to eat at ordinary restaurants. I simply order what is allowed and feel that I'm fine. If I'm with someone who is more observant, I naturally respect their choices. I'd do that even if I were not Jewish! | |
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:51:33 PM | The Garden of Eden was completely vegan . Religious adherents should wish to follow the true teachings of their "creator" , that is a vegan diet. A large majority of early Jewish teachers refused meat and egg products and left the milk for calves - as intended. There is a school of thought that follows the connection between consumption of meat and dairy and the associated medical problems to be part of a divine plan . That is , the problems are something of a punishment for the diet.
That said , the practice of Christians consuming fish on Friday night follows old-school Jewish Shabbos practice of consuming foods that keep well without reheating as the fire is prohibited on Shabbos. Smoked and pickled fish are quite commonly eaten to this day .
Pork carries , among other things , Trichinosis , and cannot be kept for any period in a hot climate in the Middle East and Africa and is prohibited by Jews , Muslims , Seventh-Day Adventists and Middle Eastern Christians . It should also be noted that a disproporianate number of Middle Eastern descended people are allergic to pork.
Shellfish is prohibited by the same religious factions for exactly the same reasons . In addition , shellfish is a common allergen among people of non Middle Eastern and African backgrounds and constitutes a large number of food poisoning deaths . Certain predatory fish such as sturgeon and shark are also prohibited in the muslim and jewish diets although I cannot find a scientific basis for it. The theologic basis is that fish must possess both fins and scales , thusly Catfish , Rays , Eels fit this. Consumption of predator type birds (Eagles , Vultures , Owls ) is prohibited . Consumption of predatory carnivores is prohibited . Consumption of rodents , frogs , omnivores such as bears and pigs is not kosher . Consumption of Camels is also forbidden , the basis may be that Camels are a working animal and it would be wasteful to consume them . Although I have seen Camel Milk available for purchase. Most followers of Hinduism , Buddhism , Zoastraarianism adopt vegetarian or vegan diets , many from birth . Various followers of sects deemed Pagan avoid animal product consumption . It should be noted that while LeVey's Satanist movement seemed to have little regard for human sufferring , it viewed animal sufferring as a problem.
The prohibitions on animal sufferring in all major and most minor world religions would dictate a vegetarian diet . The human digestion system is of a design that only plant-eating animals have . Carnivores and Omnivores have completely different digestive tracts . So many athiests are also vegetarian as science is the basis for their lack-of-belief system. It seems that only Orthodox Christians seem to refute the laws of God and nature . Yet these are the same people who picket funerals of hate-crime victims , view women as chattel , blacks as unevolved , and science as irrelevant. Eat what you want , but don't claim to follow Christian teachings when eating your pork chop and beating your wife. | |
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Posted: 9/30/2007 9:46:18 PM | | The old testament could be considered the "old agreement". The old testament is just as valid as the new agreement minus one thing. Freedom in Christ. Christ is the atoning sacrifice for all the sin in the world, ever. The problem is, many people do not accept it. Now, that does not mean that a believer can continue on any path they see fit without any knowledge or submission to God. It means things like what food you eat, what holidays you observe and what traditions you participate in no longer accrue to salvation. Now, your faith in that atoning sacrifice accrues to salvation. Now, of course you wouldnt just take, take and take all the forgiveness you could get from someone and never give anything back would you? That would be disrepectful and downright selfish, right? Well, both the new and the old agreement have the answer to this. "Love the Lord God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself". That is how you show your respect for God and the sacrifice He has made for you. (not by obstaing from any certain food). | |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 12:58:19 AM |
The old testament could be considered the "old agreement". The old testament is just as valid as the new agreement minus one thing. Freedom in Christ. Christ is the atoning sacrifice for all the sin in the world, ever.
In your opinion. In your opinion and that of other Christians. Remember you are not in a vacuum here. You don't get to speak for everyone and not everyone agrees with you, and with all due respect, you may keep your opinion for yourself and those who agree with you.
I know for myself, I know for the Jews, and for a great many other people you do not speak for us, and respectfully since you are speaking in a community forum, would it hurt you in future to apply just a little caveat like "I believe" or "In my beliefs we are taught..." as a common courtesy, to such statements that don't infringe on common knowledge or provable reproducable factual information? Such elements as this are questions of your personal faith and quite frankly spoken as blanket statements for other peoples of the Book, are frankly more than a touch offensive. You and those who believe as you do are not the sole voice for who is represented by the Scriptures...in case you have forgotten, and it seems of late a lot of vistors to these forums have. It's perhaps time that they were reminded that the Christian Church and its many splinter and fringe groups are not the sole inheritors to the wisdom and truth and message of the words from these books. | |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 6:48:36 PM | 1 Tim. 4:1-5 (NIV)
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. [2] Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. [3] They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. [4] For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, [5] because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 1:32:20 AM | Key word their is food.
God never stated that pork is food. He is pretty clear on that. | |
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Posted: 11/25/2007 9:13:05 PM | | I think it is interesting that persons of different denominations can recite scriptures to fit their particular view, and no matter what anyone else's interpretation, continue to quote their particular scripture(s). If you are eluding to a contraversial discussion between vegetarians (of various types) and those who consume animals (all or specific types), you will find that each perspective can quote scriptures to fit their particular stance. It is all in the interpretation. | |
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Posted: 11/26/2007 12:27:36 AM | Zayin: How about you eat what you feel you can in good conscience eat, and not eat what it would trouble your conscience to eat, and let everyone else do the same? There is no spiritual greatness in dietary habits (though there is the sin of pride and arrogance in self-promotion of ones own dietary habits as making one better than others). As for anyone who teaches that salvation = Jesus + what you eat, you should consider the grace of God above this particular "work".
The separation of the sheep and the goats isn't based on the contents of their stomach but the contents of their hearts.
And if anyone wants to force their eating habits on others, take a clue from Paul's' lengthy discourse on the subject in Romans (eating meat sacrificed to idols, for example). | |
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Posted: 11/26/2007 5:54:20 AM | | I am Christian and I have not eaten pork for about 5 years. I follow the health (food) laws of Leviticus as best as I can. My understanding is that God created certain animals that are healthy to eat and others that were meant to clean up waste. For example skunks and raccoons are scavengers and most would never consider eating either of these. Swine are scavengers as well. I do not miss eating swine flesh (as I call it)..at all. | |
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Posted: 11/26/2007 10:53:22 AM | I am Christian and I have not eaten pork for about 5 years. I follow the health (food) laws of Leviticus as best as I can. My understanding is that God created certain animals that are healthy to eat and others that were meant to clean up waste. For example skunks and raccoons are scavengers and most would never consider eating either of these. Swine are scavengers as well. I do not miss eating swine flesh (as I call it)..at all.
Good for you. You eat what your conscience allows you to eat. Me, I'll do the same. BTW, I think skunks and raccoons would be OK under the Levitical dietary laws, but I don't' know -- maybe those knowledgeable about such things can comment. As for not eating "scavengers", most game fish are such. Do you eat pickerel or bass? How about Catfish? Oops, I'm told they (and Carp) aren't allowed anyway. How about grain-fed pork? Beef that comes from animals fed on recycled protein from other animals? | |
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Posted: 11/27/2007 7:10:27 AM | Do you eat pickerel or bass? How about Catfish? Oops, I'm told they (and Carp) aren't
Catfish is another "unclean" food. They are scavengers as well. My understanding, per the health laws, is that one can eat any fish that has fins and scales. That is how I determine what to eat and what to stay away from. I do not eat fish that do not have fins and scales. I have not made a "religion" out of practising the health laws... I just do my best. I will never eat pork again. In the Old Testement it says that if you eat swine and sacrifice to idols you smell like smoke up Gods nose. I tell people that and they laugh at me, well actually we both have a good laugh. Anyway, I love shrimp, shrimp obviously do not have fins and scales. I will on occasion (not very often), eat them. 
Animals that are clean and ok to eat are animals that part the hoof, cloven footed and chews cud to include
Cow - Deer - Lamb - Caribou - Buffalo - Elk - Goat - Moose
Some fish that have fins and scales:
Bass - Bluefish - haddock- Perch - Pike - Salmon - Sunfish - Trout
Some birds that are clean:
Chicken - Turkey - Pheasant - Grouse - Quail
Clean creeping animals:
Locusts - Cricket - Grasshopper
Animals that are not clean to eat
Animals that do not do all of these: part the hoof, cloven footed and chews cud:
Pig (pork) - Rabbit - Raccoon - Squirrel - Monkey - Dog - Coyote - Fox - Wolf - Lion - Tiger - Horse - Mule - Zebra - Bear - Camel - Elephant - Llama - Hippo - Kangaroo
Water animals that do not have fins and scales:
Catfish - Eel - Marlin - Shark - Abalone - Clam - Crab - Crayfish - Lobster - Oyster - Shrimp - Jellyfish - Squid - Dolphin - Seal - Whale
Unclean Birds:
Bat - Eagle - Osprey - Raven - Duck - Swan -Vulture
Unclean creeping animals:
Frog - Toad - Crocodile - Lizard - Snake - Turtle - Salamander - Newt - Snail
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