| | Our perception -from- AmericaPage 3 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) | That said....I also chose to live in Europe because I was totally fed up with what the US was becoming....but trust me it's creeping back over here and you're becoming the new America now  ...after China that is.
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Posted: 6/8/2007 2:37:09 AM | | Think the problem is there is idiots on move sides of the Atlantic, and it is generally those idiots that give the rest a bad name, for god sake the Americans have George Bush, we have Toni Blair soon to be Gordon Brown, to be honest what I really dislike about America is their politicians, it is the arrogance of them, but in saying that ours aren't much better, instead of looking at the bigger picture, they all including the ones in the UK jump on whatever popular bandwagon will further their political ambitions, it is all about getting into office, not what is best for the country, Unfortunately for both America and the UK, the people that have been elected have made both countries laughing stocks. Do I like America, I like the ideology, all men are created equal, I like how patriotic they are, how much they love their country, and I think that is something this one has lost over the last however many years, | |
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Posted: 6/9/2007 11:44:49 PM | | I agree itcertainly will be interesting to see the direction that our country moves in next 10 years. My father preaches that we must continue to study and when I mean study...he doesn't mean just what is being taught at schools or college...or even some class at a business convention...he means beyond that...to have the burning drive to acquire real knowledge and that will keep our country strong and if we don't ...we will slowly start to lose our technological edge...but that alone will not keep this country on the right path...we must make sure our hearts are good....as the orginators of the constitution.....we must try to keep the same amount of wisdom as those that wrote it...Politicians now need to get back to basics of running this country properly and stop having power and party struggles.....I have more thoughts on this subject, but it is getting late... | |
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Posted: 6/9/2007 11:58:22 PM | Yeah...it's flaming time....I love my country ALOT....if you don't like it...don't come back....and find something else to talk about....that's my opinion...I don't need to know other cultures...cause I'm not plannin on visiting a culture that can't find anything else to talk about than American Bashing....I love where I am.....as far as international trade...get real ....if u don't like it here...don't buy USA made products either....
Have a nice day
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Posted: 6/10/2007 12:11:20 AM | | If you think about going across the big pond back before America was born....the brave and adventurous ones made the trip and the ones with real ship steering know how...and the rest stayed where they were....think about that statement... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 2:49:00 AM | | I have little experience of America or Americans. But what have experienced I love it, and Americans are so friendly and have a good outlook on life. I find alot of Brits are cold and very rude at times. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 2:50:00 AM |
If you think about going across the big pond back before America was born....the brave and adventurous ones made the trip and the ones with real ship steering know how...and the rest stayed where they were....think about that statement...
However since then a lot more have made the trip in a nice comfy plane with drinks service.
Most Americans I've met have been the travelling kind so probably don't reflect the stay at home type. I like their enthusiasm and friendliness but sometimes notice an element of naivity and lack of knowledge of other cultures.
My main gripe is being asked 'Is that London, England?'
Yes indeed and it was here first so does not need the country clarification thanks.
Furthermore when we refer to Paris we do in fact mean that place in France not an obscure town we have never heard of in some US state or other. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:21:45 AM | A friend of mine went to America a couple of years back, New York state. He was asked "What language do they speak in England?" 
Sorry but I am under the impression alot of Americans live on their own planet and have no concept of what is outside their own land and no desires to learn about the world as a whole. They would rather sit on their fat ass watching TV religion, eating burgers and chips.
And unfortunately they have made themselves "world police" post world war II, fcuk yeah... but that's a different topic. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:31:45 AM | | I like individual Americans but their govt stinks however most of them well informed enough to know their government stinks. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:32:47 AM |
Sorry but I am under the impression alot of Americans live on their own planet and have no concept of what is outside their own land and no desires to learn about the world as a whole. They would rather sit on their fat ass watching TV religion, eating burgers and chips.
Isn't that stereotyping?
Aren't alot of Brits guilty of that? | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 3:47:08 AM | i can only make an oppinion based on the medias representation of america and its citizens. it appears to be a very 'socially brainwashed' place where the mighty dollar rules all, and the american people are kept in a state of need and want for material wealth by its government and media. it also appears that theyre government feed them a rainbow coloured image of their place and importance in the world.
the amercan ladies ive spoken to have been lovely on the whole, but ive not enquired very deeply about their views and oppinions in case my questions offended them. however, as i said before my oppinion is purely based on the media and not on actual fact or personal experience | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 4:04:25 AM | | America is one of the best countries in the world. Sure it is far from perfect but I would say that out of all the countries in the world it would surely rank within the top ten in terms of best places to live and best record on human rights and foreign policy. In terms of crime which used to be a big concern years ago, it has made big progress in the past 16 years and is now far safer than many other countries. New York now being safer than London for the first time ever. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 7:47:51 AM | I am going to reference this comment------>"However since then a lot more have made the trip in a nice comfy plane with drinks service"
I feel the need to mention that the Wright Brothers (who were Americans) invented a plane so it has been used to travel....the know how has continued..... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 9:42:11 AM | Hardly surprising that the British perspective of the US is a little jaded when comments such as those in Message 64 are bounced out. Upping the already heated level of this thread by making the "Invented in the wonderful US of A" comment as if the US invented everything! Try these examples;
The Telephone (A Scot. An American also but just a little too late. also tried to sue the Scot though ... One might sense sour grapes)
The Jet Engine (Whittle an Englishman. The right to build this engine demanded by the US government as part payment for lend lease. US later reneged on the deal and made UK pay in full for all aid sent. But then what are Allies for huh?)
The light bulb (Not as American history would have us believe Edison but an English gentleman by the name of Humphry Davy some 50 years before hand).
Penicillin (Alexander Fleming A Scot I understand)
The Computer (Some doubt here but Main contender would be Brit Charles Babbage, 1791-1871. For the modern computer; try German Konrad Zuse. But certainly first practical computer a British telephone engineer Tommy Flowers who designed and built Colossus).
I could go on but I think my point has been made ...
Oh and by the way, on the subject of the Aeroplane being an American invention … Do look up the name Sir George Cayle. (An Englishman by the way) Pay particular attention to the year 1799
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Posted: 6/10/2007 10:24:20 AM | Without the Americans helping us out during the second world war we'd all be talking German and the majority of us would never have been born.
Without the Americans we would also have probably been talking Russian or would have been Nuked by now.
We supported them with the UN in Korea when we were fighting China and North Korea too
I know that many people have a lot against the Americans but if you look back though history, we really did need their help.
And that is why we have backed them up in every conflict since. I don't agree with some of their policies but I'm glad they are our allie.
S'nuff said... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 11:40:11 AM | Proud of message 64...tee hee hee.... ....and our air force tooo.....Thunderbirds...Blue Angels....the list goes on and on....the technological advances cannot be disputed....sure glad we had Alexander Graham Bell....what a man! | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 11:57:34 AM |
however most of them well informed enough to know their government stinks
Yes most of them do know that, and not all of them sit on their arse eating cheeseburgers and chips watching Jerry Springer. Same as everywhere else, a small minority give the rest a bad name. You get fat lazy wnakers anywhere you go in the world. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 1:25:42 PM | Stone castle are your comments sincere?
can you comment on Foreign policy and Human Rights please.
When you said this all I could think of was 'invade if theres oil supply to protect'
and as for Human rights lets not goto Cuba where people have been held for years without charge.
When New Orleans Flooded I couldnt get over How slow they were to relieve suffering there in thier own country,too busy legally sorting out who gets what contracts...
One thing I do admire is the Chain gangs,Imagine that over here with human rights people on the charge.
as for msg 64 You make me Laugh.. You carry on living the American Dream lol cos thats all it is,talking about introverted,I have never seen so many beggars as in the States,They dont even support thier war veterans,very sad.
As for if you don't like it...don't come back thats my choice as I said Earlier I will return when every thing is $2 to a pound,The states are almost bankrupt but who am I!
....and find something else to talk about again My choice Not yours...so silly...
What is a redneck?
I always appreciate how The U.S.A was forced into the war in 1941 when Pearl harbour was invaded,churchill was begging for help and then it happened for sure with a Lease plan,I liked that living the dream,yes use as many tanks,ships etc you just have to pay them back.
The Americans Do get it tough I know and at times I do feel sorry for them as the country turns in on itself never realising that one of their own citizens could Blow up the Jet fuel supply for JFK.
I look forward to the conclusion of climate agreements at the G8 with hope.
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Posted: 6/10/2007 2:56:24 PM | The United States of America, has been corrupted, used, abused and stripped of most of it’s dignity. Not by foreign powers, but by leeches of humanity within it’s own borders. Its very own citizens.
Yes, as a nation we have indeed become complacent, fat, Jerry Springer watching, self absorbed, flag waving blind idiots. Many of us never step foot over seas, but have no trouble judging people in other developed countries, as backwards. We tell all who will listen, that this is the greatest country in the world, and freedom is everything, even while our shackles put on us by personal debt, a retarded educational system, plastic politicians, useless self serving special interest groups, banks, and big business, gets tighter every year.
The nation as a whole has had it so good for so many years, that most of us started to believe our own legend, and still believe that we are the Utopia that our founders have hoped to create.
It is easier to stand on a podium, with blindfolds over our eyes, ear plugs in our ears, and a loud microphone in our hands singing our own praises, then to open our ears and eyes, and honestly admit that we are clueless as to where we truly are, and have no idea as to how to fix and restore this land that has been pillaged and raped by our own people.
We are not worthy of shining the shoes of the great men and women who sacrificed and risked everything to create this nation, or the ones who throughout the centuries fought for it. Back in the days, when our soldiers actually KNEW what and who they were fighting for.
Yet, when we talk about those people, they are often referred to as “we,” as in when “We” fought for our independence and freedom etc; not willing to admit to ourselves, that if those people were around today, they wouldn’t even waste their saliva to spit on our pathetic, deluded, ignorant, infighting, brainwashed, cowardly, bodies.
Those few of us who do realize where things stand, are not much better, because although we complain and shake our heads in dismay, we still do nothing, but whine and feel sorry for the old battered, disheartened and dying Eagle.
We are quick to judge others as blind fools, yet we are not much better, because when it all boils down, we simply do not have the intelligence, will, and fortitude, to get off of our sorry asses, and actually DO something about it. Anything.
Some may disagree, but the proof is in the pudding. We are losing our country, and non of us are able to do anything about it. It just keeps going down hill.
Lady Liberties torch might still burn bright to show the “Tired and lost” the way here, but “we the people” who are already here, are also Tired and Lost, we just don’t know it, or can’t openly admit it, even to our very selves.
However, for those in other countries whom are so quick to point out all these sorry facts about us, take a look at your own backyard. You might find that you are not so much different, and might find that you too are losing a country who’s ideology you hold dear, in the same way that we are losing ours. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 4:10:19 PM | The one thing I dont understand about the US is the gun culture.
I see it as the cause of a lot of the social ills over there, but they cling onto it like a cuddly toy, even though it causes so much pain. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 7:17:54 PM | And you make me chuckle as well chubbybrown...your choice of words...."introverted"....make me think of something different along the lines of this....I think I will remain focused on my own country and what problems we may need to address instead of looking to other countries and pointing out problems....If I decided to focus outwardly and do so to other countries....then I'm sure there would be lots of problems to find where u live also...that is realistic thinking...no where is perfect... | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 7:24:44 PM | | I like american as individuals, yet I hate 'Americans' and I think I can safely say I speak for every non American on the planet for that! Except for Iraqi's and Palestinians..lol | |
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Posted: 6/11/2007 12:32:22 AM | | They're a nation that doesn't get the government it deserves, and which fails to stand up for itself against its government. Having said that, and despite their amazing technological progress they do seem shockingly open to ludicrous beliefs and extremist religious types. | |
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Posted: 6/11/2007 12:33:01 AM | I think the comment above me was right regarding Americans as individuals...
Every American i have met or spoken to has been fine, no different to any other nationality at all. Each person has their own merits etc, it is this so called great institution of "America" i dont get at all. With George W Bush at the helm, it is seen by many to have this "We rule the world end of" attitude. Take the "you are either with us or against us" stance they took with their foreign policy.
The gun culture will never be understood by me either, this attitude that everyone has the divine right to have a gun and then the country is up in arms and blaming the likes of Eminem when kids go crazy and gun down half of the pupils in their school.
The country claims to be a big melting pot of all nationalities and tries to give the impression of tolerance of all, but thats ok as long as the tolerated are middle class, white, straight church goers...
As i said, the individual Americans seem great and i have no problem with them, it is the current state of the world that i think seems to be causing a lot of mistrust of the good old U S of A | |
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Posted: 6/11/2007 11:45:17 PM | | I agree foxymoron, half of us are thoroughly disgusted with Bush and his henchmen. Unfortunately the American school system is working with ever declining funds (for lack of interest or desire) and a philosphy based on building patriotic sheep with few of the critical thinking arts.... and the government likes it that way. Keeping people ignorant of 'the facts' has always been a dictators tool. Tho I'm starting to see some rebellion creeping in. Now if we could just find a man or women with character, guts and a proper vision for the future....maybe we can find a rope to pull us out of the muck we've been thrown into. | |
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