| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/18/2007 7:29:08 PM | Here's how you tell. All players carry a tattoo. Normaly it is just above the right ear at the hairline. 666. It’s not going to be easy to get too. The player will have to have his head nestled in your neck so you can use your hands to brush the hair away. On rare occasions the mark is on top of the head. In this case you will have to have the players face pressed against the center of your breast plate giving you access to the top of the head. In even rarer cases the mark can only be felt as it is just beneath the skin between the shoulder blades. In this case the player should be lying on top of you with shirt removed, giving you the full range of motion with your arm and hands . Then run your fingers up the spine feeling for brail like digits.
If you see or feel the mark, then immediately stop what you’re doing. If not, carry on. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/19/2007 8:22:56 AM |
I know we have through this but can someone give me a one maybe two line definition of a "Player"?
Every time I hear this term I think women scorned. Is a Predator and a Player the same?
simple, a guy who's full of s*it, misrepresents himself (says he's single, he's really married, etc), and lies to women in order to get them into bed. there are guys who consider this a challenge, like a triathlon but involving sex.
this has been a huge problem in online personals because such people have a much easier time doing what they do this way (as opposed to, i guess, older ways like bars or business offices). the internet gives them the perfect platform to make up an identity, to hide who they really are, and so on...
are we involved in online personals and actually unaware that such people exist?
tisk tisk.
and btw, they come in the female variety too.
bottomline, has nothing to do with women scorned. or men scorned. it has to do with a problem men and women encounter in online personals.
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/19/2007 8:45:54 AM | I think there are alot of players on this site, so this time I will be more cautious. Your comments about "separated" men are absolutely true. I dated one (I met from this site) -& a month after we met he told me that his wife still works with him !!) I should have seen all the red flags, like not being able to go to his house (he was always over at mine) because "there were too many memories there" & only having a cell #. He insisted that everything was sorted out(?) He declared undying "love" for me & could not understand why I had a problem.....yikes, was I ever stupid!! Anyway, he is back online now & will no doubt find a replacement for me soon. I have been back here for a few days now, but am extremely cautious. Has anyone else come across this kind of thing??? What percentage of people out there are telling the truth about their lives??? | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/19/2007 2:33:44 PM | | Merf: Why is it then that everytime one of my female friends gets rejected the popular female group responce is that the guy is a player? Someone will inevidably also know this guy and say things like "Oh yeah, saw him out two weeks ago with someone else" or some other non substantiated story. I'm not saying those guys arn't out there. There are plenty of both man and women who go through the dating world just trying to satisfiy thier own needs. But, if all the menI hear about are actuall players then we are over run with them. I also don't see it as a huge problem on the internet. I can tell you right now that I know who the players are on this site or at least the ones that use the forums to hunt. To me its so obvious that I find it hard to belive that women don't see it. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/19/2007 5:50:18 PM | Clues that he's an online player ..?
What's the point in arguing the stereo? The best "clue" that someone is a player is the gender: Being a man! All men we are prime suspects of being players. That is not so, but the stereo has been cast in stone and steel and trying to dissolve it, the stereotype, is like blowing against the wind, at least in these forums.
Watch my lips: No more taxes! 
PS. Ah yes, by the way, gay women are players too. Everybody who is sexually interested in women is .... ex officio (!!) a Player! OK? lol ("Players only love you when they're playing" (Fleetwood Mac))
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/19/2007 7:49:35 PM | A lot of the tips I've seen on this thread would be good at weeding out non-players and giving players an even easier time of fooling you. I'm often chatting to many people on msn (most of which are guys), I often forget little details about a person, I'm often called to work at a moment's notice - traits like these does not indicate a player.
If you think he's a player, or even if you don't, then don't have sex with him for a while. Spend lots of time with him in public places where his other 'marks' (if he is a player) may see him. The more time you spend with him (before having sex) the more time you have to find out what he's like and the more time for him to make a mistake that reveals himself as a player. Don't let yourself fall for him until you know he's the one.
His memory of details, the phone he uses, and certain other habits aren't indicative enough to act on - you could shut out the man of your dreams with tips like these. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 12:02:28 PM | hey rick, you wrote:
Merf: Why is it then that everytime one of my female friends gets rejected the popular female group responce is that the guy is a player? Someone will inevidably also know this guy and say things like "Oh yeah, saw him out two weeks ago with someone else" or some other non substantiated story
well, sure, i think that kind of thing is probably a defensive response, in some cases, to having been rejected.
altho the writing is kinda on the wall if, for example, he's totally sweet talking you and trying to convince you you're the center of his life (i had someone recently say "you've cast a spell on me!" before we'd even MET! ugh! :-) and we aren't going to meet! ) until he gets you into bed -- after which time he is suddenly unavailable, "just super busy" or entirely a-wall.
i mean, unless it was a Crying Game kind of scenario or something like that, how could the woman go from "strartlingly sexy" and the "most gorgeous woman i've ever seen" to "forgotten" when the only thing that's changed is that you had sex?
this happens to women often (perhaps men too, i dunno) and it does often seem a bit too convenient to be believed.
but yes, i grant you that in many cases we are hurt because rejected and so we look for rationales and things to make us feel better again -- like deciding "OMG, he's a playa!"
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 4:06:41 PM | A good hint that you are viewing a player....."prefer not to say" on the profile. It usually tells all. That person has something to hide or ashamed of. Seeing prefer not to say...next to ...do you do drugs?... Ok well that says it all eh!
Heay you gals.....if you catch a cheater refer him to (cheatinghousewives.com) | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 4:58:33 PM | Ok I went on one date and it was not good. I believed the guy to be professional and nice. He wasen't exactly a player but, we wasen't as nice as I had expected. He also failed to notice I had described myself in the religion area as Christian and then he decided to completly insult me about my religion. He could clearly see on my profile what I was. Also I have talked to 2 men over the phone and they had really bad phone voices. I asked one guy if he was gay; due to the phone voice and his response was people ask me that all the time! Other guy sounded like he was on crack (literally). So in conclusion sometimes people go on websites not jsut because they are trying to "connect" but, because they are freaks of nature! Sad but true.....but hey there are also alot of nice guys; hearing the phone voice helps and if you go on a date go only in a very public and safe place; just incase!  | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 5:02:00 PM | If ya paid any any attention you would notice , just like in the dictionary, the definition of a player.....no not a rejector: a liar and cheat and basically a real lowsy guy....hence no rejection involved but, game playing and lies.......duh | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 5:49:38 PM | They seem to collect repliees, but never move away from the computer. You'd be unlikely to really meet one as some don't seem to out. They probably also have given flowers but you wonder if a cyber romance is as good as it gets Liz | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 6:38:46 PM | Heay!! Please hold on here. About giveing cyber flowers. I have been talking to a gal on here for about 2 months .....we each want to meet but can't now......shes away on family affairs. I sent her all my roses,no one else just because I really like her........does this make me a player?....Don't think so!!
A better tip.......look who has voted you or someone else a ten and see if they have voted someone else here that you think is not a ten as one and follow them. You will see a pattern. Many people on here seem to think the fav's numbers count for something.
NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED THAT SO WELL | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 6:59:54 PM | You are so right about that..I met someone about 6 weeks ago.. On his profile he said he was looking for his soulmate and a story book romance..I was at his house every weekend, ( he picked me up to take me there ), and made me think I was the one and only.. The kind who says all the things a girl wants to hear, just to get what he wants, until he finds someone he may think is better..
My advice is, Take all these clues to heart...If I had done that, then maybe I wouldn't be here now still wondering what happened.. He will still call me on the weekend just to have me over one night, and then move on to the next victim....Watch Closely..... | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:05:16 PM | The kind who says all the things a girl wants to hear, just to get what he wants, until he finds someone he may think is better..
There lies the clue: if a guy tells a girl all the things she wants to hear, that is MAJOR red flag!!!
Simple!
PS. "He" gets ALL (??) "that he wants" after "she" hears from him all that she wants. A fair "exchange" then? Assuming of course sex is not what SHE wants too. If it is not, then why does she engage into it?
PS2. A bonfire consisting of female vanities and male primal urges? Oh my!
PS3. How do these men "know" what each or most "girls" want to "hear"? Is the agenda/menu soooo apparent or cliche even these days? And how do women, ex post facto, "know" that the man "got what he wanted"? You humans are buffling! | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:09:38 PM | Honestly, if you, OR your friends either one or both of you get mail from me.. usually it's to say hello and be friendly. If one or the other doesn't respond, (read-delete) I move on.. so if no one says no thanks, it's assumed.. if they read and delete.. they're not worth any more time and I move on to the next.. if the next one happens to be one of your friends, I wouldn't say it's a 'play' it's more of an attempt at something besides getting treated like I'm not a person by your friend in the first place ;)
And although this idea of 'serial dating' seems a bad idea.. if a guy goes out of his way to take a person out and spend time being honest and upfront about his feelings with someone.. it makes no difference how many people he goes out with.. sometimes he isn't in it.. sometimes the woman isn't.. but if you're saying taking someone out for a date and being honest about feelings is a bad thing.. tell me how many dates a guy should go on, before he stops trying to find someone that he's compatible with?
To be honest, I see no problem in dating and keeping things platonic.. and try, try again if it doesn't work out.. but for those who are persistent in giving it a shot and being upfront about it.. shame on anybody that throws them into the wall for being a 'player'
Honesty is what matters.. if they're being upfront about everything to each person they meet, it's not about the number of attempts, it's about the honesty! Our parents dated lots of their friends before they got together.. tell me if nowadays it's any different .. and just for the record.. I am talking about keeping sex out of the equation and making intentions clear and open!
No one has the ability to necessarily know how often, or under what circumstances the last 'however many' dates a guy was on, were up front and honest.. all you generally hear is the complaints.. not the guys that tried, were honest, and simply failed. Is it at all reasonable to tell that guy he's a player that shouldn't get up, dust off and try again with someone else? | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:10:11 PM | I've not run into any online players so I've not experienced this personally. I do have to say however that I find the term "player" misleading - not everyone is going to be how we perceive them to be with only so little information shared to base our judgement on.
That being said - I guess for some hard core gamers they will see online dating as just another computer game to win and then move on to the next round (or new contestent) - but they aren't the ones who are going to meet you in person. If you insist on meeting early on rather than exchanging months of emails you will know who is ginuine about meeting versus the cyber dating chamption. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:15:27 PM | | So I read a lot of the responses and can't really add to them, BUT IT WORKS BOTH WAYS, I have seen it personally so keep your eyes open guys, if it sounds to good to be true it probably is, and what I read that some guys are doing, women do the same. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:19:28 PM | | Generally speaking, this mantra that some/many/most men only (really) want a one-nighter and then move on, does it not serve as an self-excuse for some women to deal with "rejection"? It is soooo much easier to assume/be sure that the man INTENDED to hit and run, rather than to consider that he ran because he did not like something of what he saw (and that is not the end of the world, nobody is perfect, it is matching imperfections that real people, men and womenm seek, IMO. | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/20/2007 7:38:08 PM | Some people, have no intention of believing that a man can be honest and upfront on this website.. that much is perfectly clear. Not to mention the fact that everything seems so 'too good to be true' that real guys/girls don't exist..
I've certainly seen it - if people have any interest in getting to know someone altogether, they won't message someone that they aren't prepared to instantly meet with or something.. so really, you go with the cover of the book, totally breeze by some of the best personalities because their picture isn't the greatest.. and get what you expect.. you make fools out of honest people, who upon being disregarded entirely without so much as a 'thank you' for the nice thing you said, choose to up the ante and do something to gain attention. It's almost tempting to doctor up my photographs just so that someone attempts to take a quick look at my personality.. or maybe I should just take them down entirely.. and if i were any weaker of conscience, I'd simply, put up a GQ picture.
I'll say of probably about three hundred friendly notes that I've written over the last year or longer that I've been online, I've met ten people who actually replied kindly and are really great people.. and good friends. The rest tend to read and delete messages.
So if I put up a GQ pic, and start the role of 'player' do you suppose I'd get more responses? Absolutely! So.. tell me who's responsible.. the people that do it and make us all look bad, or those of you who are dumb enough to reward the best looking folk with your replies, and your attention?
You're responsible for your own behaviour.. apparently the common folk in the world don't even deserve responses even when they're being decent. I can't tell you how many ridiculous people on here treat this like a Sears Catalog. Deplorable way to start when your profile says you're looking for a relationship with a quality person. We're ALL people! Act like it! Or you GET, what you expect. Girls that lie and tease and play games, and guys that lie and get caught! If you reward this behaviour by actually responding to your mail, you're already giving me every reason to believe that a fake picture would get my foot in the door. I'm not that type of person but I assure you.. those of you who reward that behaviour, deserve to meet the fake ones, and you proliferate the problem in doing so.
To add a little objectiveness to the equation.. I saw this nonsense on bbs'es before pictures were even widely distributed on the internet.. and it was a different form of playing.. but at least you had the advantage of everyone being distrusted equally! *grin* | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/21/2007 8:08:19 AM |
Generally speaking, this mantra that some/many/most men only (really) want a one-nighter and then move on, does it not serve as an self-excuse for some women to deal with "rejection"?
yes, that's what i was saying above nick, exactly.
i think both genders do this. i was just reading a post by a guy who attributed women's rejections of him to his "chubbiness" when, looking at his profile and pics, i think those rejections are more than likely because of other things. another person recently started a thread i've been participating complaining about why men prefer thin women -- and someone responded to her saying exactly what i felt about this guy: that their rejections of her are probably not about the fact that she's not a skinny minnie but because she's (ding ding!) not a nice person!
likewise, even tho players do exist and even tho sometimes that IS the explanation for what happened, still, many will say "that jerk is just a playa!" when that's NOT what the problem was.
i think in some part we need to find ways to explain the unpleasant things that happen to us, and, it's not all bad. sometimes we have to find ways to salve the hurts and rejections we encounter in our lives. and that's ok, as long as eventually we get to a point of being more honest with ourselves...
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/21/2007 8:30:26 AM | The red flags that fly for me are:
Not wanting to find much out about me by IM/mail before the date... I think the phrase was "its more mysterious that way". ... how does he really know that he will like me then?
Being insistent that he will pick you up in his car from the station on the first date - even after you have explained (twice) that for safety reasons you prefer to meet in a public place and to get your own way there, and then getting the hump because I don't "trust" him... (quite frankly he'd done nothing to earn trust and everything to make me feel otherwise... e.g. Asking what you will be doing the morning after the date - and seeming surprised that I would not be staying out all night (hadn't read my profile then!)
Being rather cagey about his situation but finally when pushed admitting that "separated" meant that he still lived with his wife and was only there until he got a job (read... better offer) and could afford to move out (read... debt ridden loser!) (hadn't read my profile then!) - so UK blonde I know where you were coming from!
Still there ARE nice guys out there... honest and true... I know cos I'm dating one tomorrow.... (I hope!) | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/21/2007 8:45:23 AM | Well my dear....clue number one.....he is a trucker....and he tells you he does not have a woman in every town... I met one on here and he is all over the states....saying that he is looking for someone to share his life with....thought when we met it was me....UNTIL.....I started to figure a few things out...like.... forgetting my name when he talked to me... hiding his profile from me... sending roses to?????.....but told me he sent them to me....hahahahaha....not.... dated for a time.....could not perform...if ya know what I mean....hahahaha too drunk??????......anyone who says they are a social drinker...watch out....this guy could not get it up if he took three bottles if Cialis......too much alcohol....no sex...if ya know what I mean..... Can't spell worth a crap either..... Uses his dog to attract women....hides behind Shaker...ooops!...told you his name.... Is on and off this site like......every other day..... Tells you he is in love with you....hahahahahahaha.....you and all the others on his favourite list...... all of his fans are sluts And.....does not own shit...but tells you he does.....Not!!!!!!!!! Be careful.....there are many who LIE..... Good luck!!!!!!! | |
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/21/2007 8:47:55 PM |
Still there ARE nice guys out there... honest and true...
Yes there are, they are the ones off looking for the forum threads about Clues that she's an online player and wondering why people get scared off when they have an honest and true nice guy interested in them!
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| Clues that he's an online player .. Posted: 6/22/2007 2:31:11 AM | re post 122
I agree with Merf's post. If fact let me use Merf's posting as an example to make a wider point re the topic of thsis thread. She is actually one of the fellow posters/forumers whose intellect I value as well as her passion for "speaking out" on what she believes in, whether I agree with the specific point or not. One can tell she is the opposite of an online player. She does not act or pertend to be "perfect" online and that makes her real. That means that if I ever get a chance to meet her face to face, the room for "surprises" is narrow.
Online dating is not for people who believe in fairy tales or look for "perfect"/super--human - not humanly possible - human dates. They are, men or women, more prone to be taken for a ride by online players! | |
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