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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in the birth of RockNRoll
Posted: 8/28/2009 1:25:02 AM |
He opened the floodgates of black music reaching the mass white audience of the 50s Sam Phillips?????? You are joking right? Ever hear of Black Swan records? Trixie Smith may have actually had the 1st Rock n Roll record back in 1921 with My Baby Rocks me with a Steady Roll. How about Paramount Records? Both are significant enough and forebarers of Sun records(Sam Phillips). Decca recorded and did more to bring African American artist to whomever wanted to listen than Sun records. Perhaps because Decca was a british owned company without the entrapments of American aparthied or at least not to the same degree. Certainly Okeh Records (later bought by Columbia)was much more instrumental in opening the "floodgates" to the larger American public. Ever hear of Sister Rosetta Thorpe and her song "Rock Me"(1939),How about Lil Johnson's Rock That Thing(1929)Rock that thing! Oh, rock that thing!
When you hear those piano keys
It will make you shake from your head to your knees.
Just rock that thing! Oh, rock that thing!
Grab your gal, hold her tight,
Now you can rock that thing just right!
Rock that thing! Baby, let's rock that thing!
Rock that thing! Oh, rock that thing!
Preacher in the pulpit shakin' his text,
Sister Jane's in the corner hollering, "Who'll be next?
Just to rock that thing, oh, rock that thing!"
Preacher said, "Sister don't be so bold,
I'll do something just to save your soul,
Rock that thing, Sister, let's rock that thing."
Rock that thing, oh rock that thing!
Pictures on the wall are trying to dance.
The rug's on the floor hollering, "Give me a chance
To rock that thing, oh, rock that thing!"
Bring in a gallon and serve a pint,
I'm gonna rock that thing all night.
Rock that thing, babe, I'm gonna rock that thing!
Rock that thing, oh rock that thing,
Mama and papa sitting in a chair,
Mama said to papa, "Listen here,
Let's rock that thing, oh, rock that thing,
Got a brand-new dress, a brand-new hat,
I'm gonna stroll from flat to flat,
Just to rock that thing, baby, just to rock that thing
Where was Sam Phillips and/or Elvis in the 1920's? 1930's? 1940's? Johnny come latelys......or in the case of Elvis...vanilla Ice come lately!
John Hammond's From Spirituals To Swing extravaganza in 1938, may have been the fire that actually made the genre go from early simmer to boil.
When talking about the BIRTH of Rock as this thread CLEARLY states, we obviously are talking about the years before the 50's when Rock was clearly out of the craddle and up and running. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in the birth of RockNRoll
Posted: 8/28/2009 1:35:31 AM | John Hammond's From Spirituals To Swing extravaganza in 1938, may have been the fire that actually made the genre go from early simmer to boil.
By the same token, Junior Barnard's distorted electric guitar solos off the "Tiffany Transcriptions" of the mid 30's would sound right at home in the later R 'n R of the 60's and 70s.
But, I'm with M-man on this one, ...the fire was lit as early as the '20s, maybe earlier. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2009 9:19:19 PM | Jim Morison of The Doors, his music is pure poetry, just like his poems. I love his style and the way the rest of the band played as well. He studied philosophers such as Friedrick Nietizche and Aldus Huxley. "No One Here Gets Out Alive" is a must read for anyone who is a big fan of The Doors.  | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 9/7/2009 2:13:52 AM | There are many more i could cite, but are we sticking with the genre 'rock n roll' or music as a whole?
The purpose of the thread is to identify those influential in the "Birth" of R&R, not its popularity, or users favorites, etc. The idea is to identify those who contributed to the earliest examples of the form (I,IV,V structure, emphasis on the backbeat on the 2 and 4, and also the early lyrical references to the various meanings conveyed by the phrase "rock n' roll"). We've manage to bottom out in the '20s, needless to say this pre-dates Berry by more than three decades. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 9/7/2009 4:11:41 AM | not be the originators
Nope, it's quite clear if you bother to read the thread.
Simply read the thread title in post #1, it was modified by request of the OP by a moderator in 2005 because people weren't "getting" the topic.
Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in the birth of RockNRoll
Or, you could read one of the many clarifications by the OP, the fact is, if this wasn't clarified, it wouldn't b a valid thread.
Post #164, by the OP, marathonman11x7; 2 years into the thread:
You seem interested in the origins, the topic title refers to who was the most influential I AM the OP I KNOW to what I refer.
Or if you're still unconvinced to the thread's purpose, just look to the top of this page:
"When talking about the BIRTH of Rock as this thread CLEARLY states, we obviously are talking about the years before the 50's when Rock was clearly out of the craddle and up and running."
~ marathonman11x7
Further, from post # 104"
"In having this discussion MANY who read may come accross artist they are not familiar with and can therefore find out more about them. This enlightens and allows those who love the music to gain better PERSPECTIVE of the history and musicology of the genre."
~ marathonman11x7
Again, this is not a thread to list favorites, it's purpose is, like the rest of the forum, to relate useful information (or confirm or refute via reasoning and historic examples), "about the BIRTH of Rock as this thread CLEARLY states".
This is the difference between a forum and a chat room and this isn't a "poll", isn't a "survey". had you read the thread you'd realize that Chuck Berry has been discussed in depth.
The question was who was the most significant, not who was the originator
If you go to the trouble of actually reading the thread, you'd realize this is not the case. | |
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Posted: 9/10/2009 6:33:25 PM | with the obvious musical interrelationships between rock and roll, swing, r and b, and all other forms of din at the times, it still took a catalyst of attitude to convert it to rock and roll-a raw boisterous universal primal declaration of defiance, and that spirit was embodied best, i think, by the right reverend jerry lee lewis-"real wild child" maybe best embodied the narcissistic and lusty proclamation of self, and it has been given its due by myriad and diverse rock artists-i would make jerry lee the king, buddy holly, whodosed his music with an introspection lee lacked, and little richard who brought the flash and falsetto to the field as being the holy triumvirate.
not to dis elvis, but he was essentially an eclectic, derivative performer, who would sing, and did, practically anything thrown his way. | |
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Posted: 9/11/2009 8:33:23 AM | Don’t know if the movie “Cadillac Records” has been mentioned, but it may be of interest. Seems to be on point with the OP’s query?
Cadillac Records
Fuelled by the terrific sounds of the ’50s, and starring Beyonce Knowles, Adrien Brody, Cedric the Entertainer and Jeffrey Wright.
Cadillac Records tells the story of the Chicago record label Chess, which helped launch the careers of such pop icons as Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters.
Brody (The Pianist) plays Leonard Chess, one of the 1950s’ most influential music producers. He lured some of the world’s most talented and eminent blues artists into his recording studio. But giving these artists an opportunity to connect with an audience, and in turn become the mega-stars Chess believed they could be, wasn’t an easy task – not when so many of them had such easy access to booze and drugs. But as we all know, the climb to the top isn’t without effort.
Pop sensation Beyonce Knowles plays legendary singer Etta James, Jeffrey Wright (Quantum of Solace) is Muddy Waters, Gabrielle Union (Bring it On) is Geneva Wade, Mos Def (16 Blocks) is Chuck Berry and last, but not least, newcomer Eamonn Walker is Howlin' Wolf | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most influential in the birth of Rock Roll
Posted: 9/11/2009 8:51:58 AM | Is there one person you can credit with the birth of Rock music? I don't think you can. There are just to many influences and sources. The Music of the settlers in The Appalachia Mountains, That came from Scotland and Ireland.
The Blues that go back to the songs that were brought over from Africa. Gospel Music. and Jazz. Even The music That was coming out of The American south west with it's Spanish influences Contributed to this new sound. They all slowly merged and melded into something new and different. Something that eventually captured the imagination of The nation and later the whole world. Rock and Roll Can be just about anything it wants to be.
Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry , Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash and so many more helped make it popular. I do know that all of The greats all pay tribute in one way or another to the core roots of Rock and Roll The Blues, Country , Gospel and Jazz. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in the birth of RockNRoll
Posted: 9/15/2009 6:26:51 PM | | This question really has no answer, cause' everybody has their own opinion, but I would say someone like Robert Johnson, or Ike Turner, despite his personal life Little richard, Chuck Berry. Anybody who captured the essence of just raw human joy, and letting go in a rebellious loud way is influential in the birth of rock n roll. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 11:12:44 AM | | So many should be acknowledged with the start of Rock and Roll. The Influences were there and the time was right. After 100 years or more in the womb, Rock was born on a muddy back road in the Mississippi Delta. It is The **stard child with to many Fathers. The Blues, Gospel, Folk, Country, Jazz. Cajun and more. All can lay some claim to this Irreverent wild child. A Child that grow out of that rich fertile land. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most influential in the birth of Rock Roll
Posted: 9/18/2009 12:51:25 AM | Many of the early rockers cite Jimmie Rodgers (1897 - 1933) as their most pronounced influence. I knew someone who visited the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and he was amazed at who and how many artists mentioned the Father of Country Music. The only one I remember him telling me was Keith Richards but some of the others are players that you'd never guess.
Jimmie Rodgers’s impact on country music can scarcely be exaggerated. At a time when emerging “hillbilly music” consisted largely of old-time instrumentals and lugubrious vocalists who sounded much alike, Rodgers brought to the scene a distinctive, colorful personality and a rousing vocal style which in effect created and defined the role of the singing star in country music. His records turned the public’s attention away from rustic fiddles and mournful disaster songs to popularize the free-swinging, born-to-lose blues tradition of cheatin’ hearts and faded love, whiskey rivers and stoic endurance. Although Rodgers constantly scrabbled for material throughout his career, his recorded repertoire was remarkably broad and diverse, ranging from love songs and risque´ ditties to whimsical blues tunes and even gospel hymns.
http://www.countrymusichalloffame.com/site/inductees.aspx?cid=162# | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most influential in the birth of Rock Roll
Posted: 9/18/2009 6:11:00 PM | Thanks for updating me, International velvet.
I had visions of people nominating Nirvana and Coldplay, nevermind Elvis and the Beatles, so I went to the last page and had my fears confirmed by a (hopefully joking) mention of Jim Morrison.
I also like Screamin' Jay Hawkins, but he came a little after Ike. Still, his vocal style and performance were pretty revolutionary, and his influence can be seen in Glam Rock, Grunge, and other genres. I agree with the choice of Berry, too.
Now that I think about it, isn't Robert Johnson often credited with this? I'm assuming he's been mentioned previously. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most influential in the birth of Rock Roll
Posted: 9/18/2009 9:34:14 PM | | Being a musician one thing is for certain. The birth of R& R goes beyond people who are credited with R&R. In my eye it all begain pre WWII... Robert Johnson, Son House, Bukka White, Furry Lewis, Blind Willie Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson etc etc etc. With out these fine "colored artist" there would have been nothing since a lot of people made their money off the sweat and pain of these troubled men and women. | |
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