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Posted: 7/18/2007 11:14:43 PM | OK, I have to say something here. It's bad enough to compare MMA to boxing, but now some guy is saying that Mayweather wouldn't last against Liddell? Ae you high, my friend? Mayweather is 147 pounds!
It's two different sports, people. End of discussion. | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/19/2007 3:16:29 PM | Thats all the credit I'm giving to Tim Sylvia. lol!!
sylvia doesnt deserve any credit at all. easily the worst heaverweight fighter in the ufc.
he had a what....a good foot reach advantage on monson and you decide to take it to the ground. **** come on now. thats just a ridiculously stupid move.
OK, I have to say something here. It's bad enough to compare MMA to boxing, but now some guy is saying that Mayweather wouldn't last against Liddell? Ae you high, my friend? Mayweather is 147 pounds!
It's two different sports, people. End of discussion
ya i guess seing as hes 147pounds its be even easier for him to knockhis ass out.
i am acctually far from a Liddle fan, but his strickin is the best in the game and he culd without a doubt, hands down knock mayweather out cold.
better yet (being a rampage fan) i would love to see him whoops Mayweather ass even worse AND faster. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2007 10:41:56 PM | | You are taking boxing's best heavy weight fighter( and figher, period) and putting him up against a pretty mediocre MMA fighter..Tyson has a lot of punching power, yes..but he's never been kicked, taken down, choked, etc. Throw him in the Octagon with Mirko Cro Cop and see how long Tyson lasts after taking that left kick right to the head..Or put him in there with any of the Gracie family and see how long he last when the jiu jitsu the piss out of him..People need to realize something..An MMA fighter probably would get knocked out in the boxing ring(with the exception of a few), and a boxer would get beat in the cage. | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/19/2007 11:46:12 PM | fairbairn:
Um, I think you missed the point of my post. There is a 60 pound weight difference between Mayweather and Liddell. Considering that AND the fact that you are talking about two different sports.......what, exactly, is your point again?
By all means, be a fan of either sport. But try to at least think a little before you post something so ridiculous. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2007 12:31:47 AM |
Tyson has a lot of punching power, yes..but he's never been kicked, taken down, choked, etc.
Sounds like someone didn't watch his Lennox Lewis match press conference cause not only was he kicked but he was choked and held down to try and stop him bitting Lewis' ankles.  | |
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Posted: 7/21/2007 2:44:13 PM | No girls allowed? Pu leeze! Women compete! Geez. Even though I've never been into watching fights, I watched enough boxing with my grandfather growing up and from what I've seen boxing and UFC are like apples and oranges.
Caged Fury 6 tonight in Kauai! If anyone hears the results tonight give a holler! TV and news is limited for me and my boy is on the card. I'm always a wreck waiting to hear from him.
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 8:25:27 PM | decades ago as a wide eyed teenager the coolest thing we ever saw was karate and Billy Jack.... but boxing was king
then came enter the dragon with the most adored and respected fighter Bruce Lee.... in the first intro fight sequence Lee put a submission hold on his opponent and as cool as that was i ignorantly thought no way some hollywood crap.....and boxing was still king of the fight world
then espn and its pka programs were highly entertaining.... and yes boxing was still king
then out of the toughman contests came the ufc.... and quite honestly at the local toughman shows the boxers cleaned house.... but the ufc revealed why boxers would win against karate/kung fu type...jyu jytz zu (SPELLING????) boxing still king
remember in the early days of ufc how GRACIE shocked all the world by submitting hugh muscled up fighters amazing everyone how such a slight guy could beat these behemoths.......revealing what Bruce Lee only hinted at years earlier... mmmmmmm a new kid in town and boxing thumbed its nose
thus the birth ot todays ULTIMATE fighter.... and yes they are the ultimate fighters because in a true street fight they will most likely be able to survive against all other fighters big and small........... i know the guys that i was most frightened to fight were the KRAZY high school wrestlers that would break your arm or choke you out and then beat the sh!t out of you
don't think they can't do it to a good boxer in a street fight senario...which is what you implythey can't do..... in a no holds barred fight....hey these guys would stomp the piss out of the karate/ kung fu posers because people don't fight like like that
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 9:07:40 PM |
In interesting other news, Sherk tested positive for steroids. Guess there will be an open belt in the lightweight.
in other interesting news, the number 1 contender (franca) also tested positive.
but it does make me sad. i want to see a sherk vs. faber fight. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2007 9:25:10 AM | Boxings my Sport, but i do think UFC is up there with it. Boxing is full of fighters avoiding eachother where as UFC has a superfight near enough every week.
I cant see UFC over taking boxing on the Box Office.
Fight-wise it is completley diff. Boxing is tamer but it is an art, just like Jui Jitsu is an art. The two things cant be mixed to perfection and obviously they both have there own advantages.
If they are standing a boxer has an advantage, if it goes to ground then a straight up boxer will have trouble.
But boxers are one dimensional and the odds go to the UFC guys imo. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2007 7:58:13 AM | I assume you box or you might not be as one sided. I love all aspects of martail arts. From MMA to traditional katas ect. Im sure if you asked the majority of professionals no matter what they do, they still appreciate other aspects of martial arts. Boxing just like karate, kung fu, MMA (mixed martial arts) or any other disciplin is still a form of martial arts. Enjoy it.
Your really debating the same issue that many have since the creatation of the fighting arts... Who's is better? My question is this! Can there really be a best? Its a form of art and expression, Its a form of showing the potential the human body can go to.
Whats better masterpeice the mona lisa or the sculpture of michel? They can't be compaired! | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:15:27 AM | To the guy who started this thread, you are a funny man! I really don't see the need to debate your statement, it's quite naive. What I will say is Dana White and almost all of the fighters are entirely respectable characters and good role models. I do hope Don King types don't appear and it doesn't reach the masses and corruption does not occur! The idea of a fighter being capable in all areas; stand up, kicking, ground game, stamina, speed, submission, throws, flexibility..... is infinitely more appealing than the repeated mindless punches to a person's head. Those of you who see it as uncivil, believe it or not, there have been many more serious injuries in boxing, football (soccer) and wrestling (is fake for god sake) than in the UFC (at least since Zuffa bought it).  | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/24/2007 11:02:25 PM | | what Sherk tested positive for steroids wow...I thought that cut physique was due to his insane workout regime...ohh well shiet happens | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 11:19:40 AM | Boxing is like my dog, fixed.
PS: sherk wouln't look like that if he took 'roids and played PS3 all day. He had help but certainly has worked hard. | |
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Posted: 7/28/2007 11:59:54 AM | | To Reply to the opening post My favorite MMA fighter is Shogun Rua he is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as well as well as a Muay Thai expert he's not a boxer he would destroy any boxer in a straight up fight hands down. Same with Fedor these guys can attack with their legs too sometime boxers do not. And if they get you on the ground its over ask Old Ass Ray Mercer lol... | |
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Posted: 7/28/2007 4:10:46 PM | Whole 9 Yards:
Please explain how it is that you know that boxing is "fixed". Perhaps provide an example to back up your claim. Poor decisions? Yes. Fixed? I highly doubt it. | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/28/2007 4:15:40 PM | A MMA guy defeating Ray Mercer is not much of an argument. He's a washed-up old boxer. Probably not the best example to use when wondering how a boxer would fare in a MMA fight. I remember washed up ex-champion James Warring doing quite well in an older UFC event. He almost won the whole thing. How do you MMA fans explain that?
Again, they are TWO DIFFERENT SPORTS, people! They are as different as day and night. | |
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/28/2007 5:46:45 PM | Usually I respect other peoples opinions no matter how retarded but not only is the OP's topic retarded but he also spouts off shit without knowing what he is talking about.
MMA Fighters have training camps just like Boxers do, Tito and Rampage both train up in Big Bear like some Boxers do, and they will normally have 6 week training camps. If you looked into things a bit more before making yourself look very closed minded then perhaps people would have actually discussed this with you.
It seems as though you had no intentions of having a conversation as it were about the subject but rather you had a uneducated opinion and for some reason you thought it would be a good idea to share.
You know I've had some really good shits in my 34 years but never once have I decided to dig one out of the toilet, put it on a leash and walk it down the street to show people my accomplishment....I am sitting here wondering if you will be putting a shock collar on the next turd you decide to parade around out in the streets.
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| UFC can not compare itself to boxing.
Posted: 7/30/2007 9:38:47 PM | skeptical73
im sorry but i just dont see how they are "different sports"
its the same sport just with different rules. thats it, thats all.
sure if you put a boxer in an octagon hed be ****ed. but still put an MMA fighter in a boxing ring and hed sill give the boxer a run for his money and have a good chance at KOing him.
MMA fighters traing in boxing, surely not as much as a boxer.
but if an MMA guy focused on just boxing hed with out a doubt win.
throw Tito(as much as i hate his guts), or a Rampage or even Shogun in a boxing ring with 14ounze gloves and make it a boxing match. anyone in the same class would have a real fight against them and would have a hard time winning.
they get punched with 6ounze gloves in a regular basis im pretty sure they can take a shitload from someone with 14s | |
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Posted: 7/31/2007 10:42:41 AM | Sorry buddy ! boxing is dying out really fast !
I was a fan ...of boxing for 25 years.
With 4 oz gloves .. the ufc brings real life compt..from...all over the world fighters to the market.
You have to be a well rounded athlete,more than just standing on your feet,
pitty patting with those 16-12 0zz gloves for 12 boring rounds.
Boxing was fun years back but ..now they duck each other !.
Me being a former college wrestler .
A boxer will loss 95 percent of the time in the oct...ring !
Just get in there once .....!
You get hit with 4 0z gloves.....you got to sleep ! | |
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