| Trophy Wives
Posted: 7/21/2007 3:50:37 PM |
Is this so different of how marriages to powerful men have manifested through the centuries?
Actually, in centuries past, a trophy wife wasn't the beautiful bimbo; she was from a politically powerful and/or rich family. The beautiful bimbos were the mistresses.
There were exceptions, of course, i.e. Henry the 8th. and a couple of his wives, but consider what happened to them.
Should beautiful women be allowed to escape poverty on looks alone?
Is this an ethical dilemma? If it is, there are a lot more important ethical dilemmas to discuss and debate: Should people go hungry? Should we execute criminals? Should abortion be allowed? Using the word "should" in a case such as this makes it sounds as if we could stop such marriages from happening. It also assumes that all beautiful women are poverty stricken.
Is this prostitution legitimized by a wedding ring?
Some people claim all marriages are cases of legal prostitution--or they were before women joined the workforce en masse. Define prostitution, or should the parameters of marriages be defined according to the husband and wife?
Are these girls being duped into becoming some rich guy's breeding machine?
Caveat emptor on both sides.
By the way, the trend is shifting, the most recent U.S. Census Bureau figures show that in the year 2000, 12 percent of all marriages were between older women and younger men. In addition, in the UK, the proportion of women marrying younger men has almost doubled over the past 25 years.--in over a quarter of new marriages, the husband is the younger spouse.
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 7/21/2007 9:19:14 PM | So many questions, and yet, curiously, just one answer.
You're an idiot. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 7/21/2007 10:44:42 PM | sounds like a discreet form of prostitution to me | |
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Posted: 7/22/2007 12:14:35 AM | | One of the original comments in trailsman's thread talks about the first wife being dumped for the 2nd trophy wife. Alot of the replies here talk about who cares what other people do or who is it hurting if the man and the trophy wife love each other. In the case where there has been an affair with the man and the "to be" trophy wife, believe me, the first wife and the kids care alot about being dumped and they are hurt alot by it. Should a long marriage that had love, support, companionship and children be thrown away for looks? | |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 7:45:19 AM |
"Um, maybe those guys are simply marrying women that they find attractive and like to have sex with."
True, but that set of criteria will work for picking out a hooker as well. One would think choosing a wife would also encompass her character, whether she intellectually stimulates you, if you share values, etc.
One would think. But for some that is the first point of screening. I would think hiring a hooker would be cheaper. At least she won't be able to walk off with 50% of your assets when the guy dumps her for his next trophy. Donald Trump's trophies have cost him a BUNDLE but he continues. His current wife is just a few years older than his daughter .  | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 8:07:37 AM | if i decide to marry a man and he loves me enough to make me his trophy wife ...i wouldnt mind . you make it sound like its such a bad thing . we live in a world where 16 year olds get pregnant ...where ppl think one night stands are a normal ...and u tell me Marrying someone because a lot money are involved ..is worst ?? haha at least they are married ..at least they have a familly and i havent seen a couple like that, that was unhappy ...soo whats the big deal bout it
by the way ..there are men that consider being with a woman for money too ..so pick on that haha
and u think those women are dumb ...and under educated ..well they were smart enough to find a man that would be open to pay for everything so they wouldnt have to do nothing at all then just go shopping ;) haha | |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 10:01:43 AM |
"Trophy Wives" OMG..I always thought they were the women that hockey players hooked up with when they were in town for a tournament.. my bad!
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Posted: 2/28/2008 11:32:20 AM | | How come everyone describes beautiful women with "fake" boobs stupid bimbos ? Am I the only person who knows beautiful women fake boobs and all with degrees ? | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 11:44:33 AM | | I would discuss this with Drew Barrymore if she would talk to me. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 1:15:10 PM | I would never marry a man that liked me just because of my looks. Sure there should be some physical attraction, but there should be more to a relationship than just looks. In many ( but not all ) of these situations, it is often a rich, older, man marrying a younger attractive woman. She married him primarily because of his money or power. He married her primarily because of her looks.
In fairness, it is starting to become more common for women to have "trohpy husbands" or "boytoys" as well. Personally I have often dated attractive younger men. But looks are just a part of a package for me. I wouldn't date an attractive man of any age if he had a poor personality or if we wouldn't compatible. | |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 2:07:33 PM | | Looks are the icing on the cake. A guy doesn't have to look like he stepped off the pages of GQ. While one would never want to be with someone they found physically repulsive, it's amazing how a man can grow on you when the other qualities are present. I would rather be with an average looking guy who had character than someone who looks like a male model but who has a range of character flaws. Give me an average looking guy with whom I share some common interests and who is ready to commit, sexually faithful, a good communicator, and loyal ANYDAY over someone who is eye candy and screws around, lies and has sexist hang-ups. Of course it is sometimes possible to have it all looks and character but if I had to pick. Given the choice I would pick average looks and outstanding character hands down every time. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 2:33:36 PM |
Should beautiful women be allowed to escape poverty on looks alone?
Should be allowed? You know what, what you describe has been going on for thousands of years. In a book I recently finished in evolutionary psychology indicated that societies where the disparity between the haves and have nots is minimal, such as industrial countries like the US, Canada or England, they tend to be more prone towards monogamy or serial monogamy. Countries where the disparity is huge, such as third world countries, monogamy tends to become less frequent. But for instance wealthy men in those cultures rarely divorce, since they need the legitimate mother of his legitimate children, but in the side will have several concubines, set up with apartments and children and the works. Beauty is indeed an evolutionary way to achieve the best reproductive possibility available to the woman.
Now, in industrialize societies, it's too expensive to maintain these households, so what is more prevalent is serial monogamy. And since you don't have disparities where you practically starve, the whole dynamics become totally different. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 3:35:12 PM | | At the end of the day are they happy. Life is short its not about just getting loads of stuff. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 4:56:17 PM | Wait a minute...
Rich, powerful men aren't bloody likely to pick up some young girl from the wrong side of town and marry her. Younger...sure, pretty...sure.. but someone with say, a corporate job, needs more than just a "pretty trophy wife". There's a whole lot of entertaining and social engagements... there's the Country Club or Yaught (sp) Club... he's going to have to at least choose a woman who has some sense, the ability to be a gracious hostess and has had exposure to higher echelons of society. AND if he EVER wants to get involved in politics she better be squeaky clean. Stupid will NOT do...as a girlfriend or date, sure...as a wife? no. So she will have to have more than just looks.
There's reputation involved in this scenario.
Mid-life crisis exists... but not all men become pathetic comb-over, sports car driving idjits...and there is a LOT to be said about couples who work like crazy to buya house, raise kids and spend there every waking hour in the rat-race and then when the kids leave home they realize they have little left in common because they "stayed together for the kids" or didn't work on them while raising th kids... I think empty nest syndrome is more responsible for the mid-life divorces than any hormonal crises. I've talked to a lot of men who've stayed in relationships because of the children... they KNOW that the marriage is a sham.. or they have grown apart and are just waiting to send the kids off... there are a lot of women who feel this way also. It's a whole lot easier to get a younger partner when the kids are gone...as sad as that is.
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 2/28/2008 7:17:38 PM | We're all dooomed I tell ya. We're livin in Sodom and Gamora!  | |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 7:31:06 PM | Steven Wright said, " I have a friend who married a trophy wife...
obviously not FIRST prize."
I guess this is what Sugardaddies.com is all about.... | |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 10:25:12 PM | | Thats just how it goes... Women can point and say oh its CHARACTER BLAH BLAH... Don't feed me that crap.. If you can get a Ferrari your not gonna settle for a Honda civic instead.. If you can get a Prada purse your not gonna settle for a Guess purse.. If you can get a Mansion your not gonna settle for a Trailer not even a double wide one.. So why if you can have Angelina Jolie would you settle for Rosie O'Donnel ? ... When I start hear'n women rave about how much they would love to hook up with Danny Devito instead of Geroge Clooney or Mathew McConaughey... Then I'll start buy'n the whole "Character thing" Its always about the trophies.. Thats why most pepole who win the Lotto go broke.. They change their life style.. Now they can get the Ferrari so the Civc all of a sudden isn't good enough the Guess purse is no longer any good you need a Prada ... Thats why when you win the game you get a nice shiny Trophy not a lump of coal... | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 3/1/2008 12:09:07 AM | Well, I live in a land of trophy wives, and as a divorced woman of 49, I can tell you that they can make a 'normal' woman's life hell...not to mention the men that they marry and divorce, lol!
It's true that many successful men want beautiful women. That, however, does NOT mean that they have good relationships. On the contrary -- many of these marriages -- if not most -- are loveless and lifeless. Think about it! If you were picked just because you looked good, how deep can that relationship be?
A very successful and very handsome SVP at a company I worked at started having an affair when his wife (young...beautiful...) was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer. A woman in my neighborhood (young...beautiful...) started having an affair with her plumber because her husband was working so hard to make the money she was spending like it was going out of style. She ditched her husband, took half of his assets and is now married to the plumber. A woman I know (young...beautiful...) hasn't slept with her husband for over three years because he is addicted to internet porn.
Not that I would ever be mistaken for a trophy wife, but you couldn't pay me to be that person. And the men that I date wouldn't want me to be one anyway. Far more fun to be real! | |
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Posted: 3/1/2008 12:33:34 AM | Hi Trailsman,
I liked your posting a lot. Wow - first time a man has expressed precisely what I think - ie. that this is just another form of prostitution. The girls are not being duped though - they have fully open eyes and in most cases dedicatedly try to land such a guy, not having the education, interest or ability to earn their own living (in all cases I have seen).
What I just find really, really sad is that so men seem to have so little capacity for true contact with another human being. Give them looks, money or success and they go for a halfbrained trophy wife who can barely read a newspaper or talk about anything but shopping. It only becomes comprehensible when considering that men have as much DNA level genetic similarity to male chimps as they do to women (de facto). In other words, yes men are genetically speaking but hairy apes.
If I insult some men here, excellent. I hope it'll stimulate you to go out and prove to the women in your lives that you know how to desire and cherish a woman with your hearts and minds too, and love her for hers. If you are capable of it. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2008 12:48:58 AM | In my youth I had several opertunities to become a trophy wife of attractive older men anyone of which would have made me financially happy and I would have led a life of fairy tales. Maybe?
But, foolishly(?), I chose love and youth and unfortunately married a man who mistreated me, ran around on me, lived an unfulled life that ended in divorce. I never remarried because I wanted to be independant financially before I married again. I went to college, became a professsional woman, and found that my success was still based on my looks, and when age set in, my success began to fade.
Now I find myself without my youth and I am left with slim pickings and would love to have even one of those older men to be with. Fortunately, my education gave me a broader picture of the world and I am not bitter and being alone doesn't bother me, but I still wonder what it would have been like to live a life of luxury and freedom from financial worries.  | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 3/1/2008 12:51:07 AM | A real Trophy Wife is the one who is beautiful and warm hearted and decent lady that any man would be proud to have by his side, could count on her to stand by him thru the hardest of times and trust her with his very life and is not necessarily the most young and nubile!
JF | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 3/1/2008 2:27:23 AM | | ALLOWED? that speaks of being burned in some fashion. and allowing? come on, women are not there to be told what to do, they have free will like the rest of us, how does it differ from a wealthy woman picking up a handsome young man? it doesnt, its just a perk of what comes with the wealth,i begrudge no one male or female the chance to better themselves. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 3/1/2008 4:24:17 AM |
So many questions, and yet, curiously, just one answer.
You're an idiot.
While that may be true, I was merely providing fodder for debate. Thank you for your insightful contribution.
ALLOWED? that speaks of being burned in some fashion. and allowing? come on, women are not there to be told what to do, they have free will like the rest of us
Exactly right, landscaper. Yet these situations seem to go against some people's fundamental sense of justice when we are on the losing end. Why the resentment? That's what I'm trying to find out.
The example that came to mind when I started this post is my buddy's dad who, after his divorce, dated women younger than his kids. My friend talked about how embarrasing it was to go to a restaurant with Papa and his date (whom everyone assumed was my friend's sister until the body language at the table seemed wierd.) My buddy's dad eventually married the bleach blonde bartender from the local pub. She seems nice and has adapted easily to her new life. She's seven years older than my friend (who, at family get togethers, gets eyed up by his new 'grandma' in an uncomfortable fashion.) | |
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Posted: 3/1/2008 4:33:43 AM | I was a trophy wife.
I guess it mattered not about intellect or personality as he was a workaholic and was only home a few hours anyway. I think this is the case with many of these men.
When he realized I was quite intelligent he seemed to resent it. | |
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| Trophy Wives
Posted: 3/1/2008 8:17:11 AM |
So many questions, and yet, curiously, just one answer.
You're an idiot.
pffft... I just lost my cheerios.
Some wild assumptions OP.
Attractive women have more choices. Its a fact. And here's a thought.....most of us have an IQ greater than our bra size. We hold powerful positions in the workplace, and don't have any problem hanging like a beautiful trophy on a man's arm. It comes with our self confidence. | |
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