| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 2:28:46 PM | | I don't care if she's on them or not. She acting crazy though, that's when I start to care. I know this one girl who took meds for depression and whether she took the pills or not she was completely WHACK! So I wouldn't date a girl like her, no. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 2:50:58 PM |
I know this one girl who took meds for depression and whether she took the pills or not she was completely WHACK!
And hence it had nothing whatsoever to do with the depression meds....it was her.
The stigma is where people associate the medications with bad behavior of any type. Or the mental illness with bad behaviors. People don't realize that it's not necessarily the disorder, it might just be that person.
Dear god, the world is different, and so is every single person, why do people have to stigmatize these things?!?!? | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 3:53:26 PM |
I read that book. I believe a lot of those stories were taken out of context and twisted so the author could make his point.
but I will say this:
Antidepressants aren't supposed to be relationship fixers. The book serves as a warning for those who are taking antidepressants to make a disturbed relationship less disturbing.
Thanks for your entry. That book is really really interesting.
Well, you prompted me to go look at some reviews for the book. Based on the reviews that seem credible (by people who claim to be medical practitioners), they seem to imply that his point in the book is that primary care physicians (PCPs) should not be the ones putting someone on antidepressants (because they are not qualified to properly diagnose depression); and that this diagnosis should be done by psychiatrists. And apparently, statistics show that PCPs are the ones doing the treatment about half the time, while they diagnose medication twice as often as psychiatrists.
Now, I haven't read the book, but if true, I think that is troublesome. I wouldn't trust any PCP I've ever had to reliably diagnose a common cold, let alone put someone on antidepressants for an extended period. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 4:03:14 PM | Just curious...
So someone with a stomach ulcer that formed because the acidity levels in the lining where too high, should they just exercise more and think in a cognitive manner to help heal it?
What about the lung cancer patient who has tumors on their lung. Should they work on their nicotine habit and wait for the tumors to dissipate? Of course they were weak so accepting chemotherapy is just a cop out. If they put their mind or lung to it they can beat this.
What an ignorant thread this has become... | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 4:19:32 PM |
Just curious...
So someone with a stomach ulcer that formed because the acidity levels in the lining where too high, should they just exercise more and think in a cognitive manner to help heal it?
What about the lung cancer patient who has tumors on their lung. Should they work on their nicotine habit and wait for the tumors to dissipate? Of course they were weak so accepting chemotherapy is just a cop out. If they put their mind or lung to it they can beat this.
What an ignorant thread this has become...
As you take what I said totally out of context.
Talk about ignorant. 
I was talking about the mental disorders, and I didn't say that anyone whom the medications work for shouldn't use them.
I like that people consider chemotherapy to be a "cure" also. You do realize what chemotherapy is right?
It's radiation applied to the body to intentionally kill cells, it kills good white blood cells along with the cancerous growths.
Thereby decreasing the chance of the patient living(White blood cells are a major part of the bodies immune system). All that does is make them dependent on that as a means to killing them off.
In some cases, you can't do enough. I just watched my ex's uncle die from cancer, they were doing regular chemo on him, and it still grew. It matastocized(sp?) and was from his chest all the way through his shoulder and on his arm.
By all means, if you get cancer, get chemotherapy, pray to your god, do whatever you think will work, because if it's a bad enough cancer, it's your time to go, and nothing will stop that, not even chemotherapy.
Oh, and feel free to continue "donating" to those charities that are supposedly working on a "cure".
There is no panacea, or cure-all in this world. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 5:20:34 PM | Where in my post did I say chemo was a cure
Just like antidepressants aren't a cure, they make the illness manageable for those with chronic brain illness. You my friend have a hard time grasping the fact that the brain is an organ that is prone to disease. If exercise can help someone who thinks they are depressed then they weren't clinically depressed, which can vary from mild, intermittent, chronic, seasonal, or atypical treatment resistant. Get off that high horse and do some research before you try and give some advice based on what you have experienced. So what you managed your anxiety through self talk, your brain isn't everyone's brain. Quit judging people based on your lack of knowledge | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 5:34:35 PM | And I suppose you have a doctors degree to back up your "supposed" knowledge on this subject?
I'm not on a "high horse", I didn't tell people not to take them. If you bother to read back through the posts, Ralph was the one that was telling people to stop taking them because in his mind it makes people weak.
And assuming I have no "knowledge" is making an @$$ out of you. I also pointed out a study that was done, if you'd bothered to read the whole thread that points out that even people on a placebo show a effect. Please go look up what a placebo is(Even better I'll give a definition..), then get off your high horse and quit believing everything someone tells you without bothering to do your own research.
Main Entry: pla·ce·bo
Pronunciation: pl&-'sE-(")bO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -bos
Etymology: Latin, I shall please
1 a : a usually pharmacologically inert preparation prescribed more for the mental relief of the patient than for its actual effect on a disorder b : an inert or innocuous substance used especially in controlled experiments testing the efficacy of another substance (as a drug)
2 : something tending to soothe
Yes, for some people, medications do help.
I also didn't make a distinction between "clinical" or just regular depression when I made my way earlier in the thread comments. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 7:20:20 PM | Oshan....As soon as I started reading your opinon I knew where you were going and I started to feel sick. It's people like you(who have never suffered from clinical depression) that killed my sister. She was a strong and would fight to the bitter end kind of woman. After talking to people such as yourself they convinced her to" take responsibility for her own happiness "and stop taking her medication. You made her feel ashamed,weak and pitiful. This to a strong proud woman with many succeses in her lifetime which was shortend by her taking her own life.
So you can take your White Light Healing and all the other bull people like you shoved down my sisters throat and take some Responsibility for the uncalled DEATH of my little sister. And if you should reply with anything close to suggesting she was weak and Suicide was in her destiny........ | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/11/2007 8:00:52 PM | i guess it depends on the level of depression,etc....
I'D NEVER GO NEAR THEM, IF I KNEW BEFOREHAND.....
there are enough variables that make dating diffilcult, without the added "bonus" of a potential lifelong illness, that would affect everyady life........  | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 10:00:06 AM | | My educated guess is that many of the anti-med types in this thread have dated and been involved with lots of people who are on meds and you never even knew it! The reason you never knew it is because the meds provided them with the assistance they needed to overcome depression/manic attacks/panic attacks etc. etc. and function in a way that allowed them to participate in life more fully. Don't be so quick to judge something or someone you probably know very little about..."walk a mile in my shoes..." as the old saying goes. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 10:56:30 AM | | The secret truth is that the MAJORITY of Americans reguarly deal with some type of mental insatbility...i.e. depression. Most people don't know the signs or symptoms of the disorders, are believe the stigma that goes with them. I know lots of women that take Paxil, Xanax, Zoloft,Cymbalta and, Lexapro. It doesn't mean your a bad person or crazy. It simply means, you reconized a problem in your life and are taking measures to deal with it. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 3:41:09 PM | Glad you asked.. NEWSFLASH you don't need a degree to be able to read scientific literature. But it does require comprehension skills which you lack based on your response to several posters in here . Let me educate you since you missed sex education class in junior high. Most women grew up knowing about placebos, they come with our birth control pills clueless one. Now keep stigmatizing the people who are mentally ill, one day you might find yourself in that same position. Its none of your business if an adult decides to take a prescribed med. What right do you have to judge someone and the choices they make in their life, absolutely none. So smug with your selfrighteousness, making conclusions based on ignorance. This is one of the main reasons there is the ADA act, for people like you. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 3:44:21 PM | Yeah i think all women need too be put on antidepressants.......
(just kidding ladies)
It all depends on what it's for, If it is helping you to cope with your problem, then it's all good | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 8:46:11 PM | Glad you asked.. NEWSFLASH you don't need a degree to be able to read scientific literature. But it does require comprehension skills which you lack based on your response to several posters in here . Let me educate you since you missed sex education class in junior high. Most women grew up knowing about placebos, they come with our birth control pills clueless one. Now keep stigmatizing the people who are mentally ill, one day you might find yourself in that same position. Its none of your business if an adult decides to take a prescribed med. What right do you have to judge someone and the choices they make in their life, absolutely none. So smug with your selfrighteousness, making conclusions based on ignorance. This is one of the main reasons there is the ADA act, for people like you.
As your post shows, you totally lack reading comprehension skills (As I have stated many times, I'm not the one stigmatizing others..learn how to read a post, much less a thread). Good day to you. You've made yourself look like an idiot.
As for "sex education" class in junior high, if you'd like to go into that subject, I'm even more versed in that than you probably are seeing as I've studied human sexuality since even before I was in junior high. Your ignorance is showing all kinds of phenomenal heights.
If my conclusions are based on ignorance, pray tell, why would evidence support a contradiction to your theory that medications solve everything(And if you look around, it obviously doesn't solve everything, as people continue to need all kinds of medications daily.)
Seriously, go back and read what I said, and quit acting like you are defending something, when you don't even know what you are defending, you are only attacking someone because you think you are "in the right".
All throughout this whole thread I've been defending the people who take medications, while also agreeing with pieces of what Ralph said.
I agree with what he said about general practice doctors should not be able to prescribe medication like it was candy. And that's how some people use it.
Kind of like the people who use illegal drugs, go out drinking nightly, or use some other vice as a way to "deal" with life's problems.
Maybe you should actually go live life some and see what I mean. Sit back and watch people someday. You'll see some people's vices right out there in the open, others are hidden.
As for your being totally ignorant to the fact, here, I'll post it again.
I have no problem with people who need the medications for a mental illness/disorder.(These are the people with the chemical imbalances that we are talking about.)
What I do have a problem with, are the people who take medications for no other reason than to "feel" better when they are down for a simple life problem/issue.(These are the same type of people that do stuff like reach for alcohol or heroin/crack/pot, or some other vice because they want a euphoric boost. All of which I'm against also.)
This is where Ralph and I agree.
I think that's basically the same thing Ralph was trying to imply also, but he wasn't getting it through people's heads that that's what he means.
The fact that you are attacking me for what I've said, gives the impression that you are the type that needs these vices and hence would therefore get pissed when/if someone were to deny you them. (Much like a heroin/crack addict lashes out when they are deprived of their drug of choice.)
Get your facts straight, before you make idiotic assumptions about what people's motivations are.
Now keep stigmatizing the people who are mentally ill
And this clearly shows you didn't bother to read the whole thread, because I stated that I have disorders, and am mentally ill. Put that one in your pipe and smoke it. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 9:00:05 PM | | It never fails that one simple problem usually snowballs into a much larger problem. IE.. money, ex-wives/husbands. So wheres the line drawn from a "simple problem" to a larger problem? I'm not attacking or taking sides, its just a simple question. I too take a daily antidepressant, come spend a couple days with me at work and I'm sure that you would to. But I didn't start my meds, until after it got to the point where I wanted to quit my job and be away from everybody. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 9:12:25 PM | So wheres the line drawn from a "simple problem" to a larger problem?
The line is drawn when you go see a specialist, and get diagnosed with a mental illness.
That's where this line should be drawn. But for some reason general practice doctors are allowed to prescribe medications, for symptoms/illnesses they know nothing about.
How do you seriously prescribe a medication to someone if you don't even know what the illness/symptoms/side effects are?
I know that when I asked my general practice doctor to give me some specific medications I'd read up on(in the past), she was quite adamant with me that I go see a specialist, but she finally just gave in when I said I didn't want to. She reluctantly gave me what I'd asked for. Now, if she'd had a law where she could legally say "I can't, you need to see a specialist for that" then I would've had to.
See where I'm coming from?
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until after it got to the point where I wanted to quit my job and be away from everybody
do people just think i went on these because one day I had a bad day at work. EVERYONE READ: It was a seven year struggle.
See, that's the thing, anyone could go lie and say "I reached my wits end, give me a medication that'll boost my mood." to a general practice doctor, whereas a specialist is trained to look closer and ask specific questions before coming to a conclusion and diagnosing someone.
I'm not implying that either of you lied, just making a point. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/12/2007 10:35:15 PM | | well seeing as how i have been on antidepressants as well as my mom. and i was in a relationship with a girl who took them for 2 years(she was misdiagnosed btw, the antidepressants made it worse). i have no problem with antidepressants. some ppl need help to feel happy or feel good about themselves. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 12:13:43 AM | Op:
IF she makes a big deal out of it; she is setting you up.
IF she just mentions it in an apologetic way, then she is saying that she has some issues to deal with; but she is interested enough in YOU to deal with them.
*hic 
Hope that makes some sense, OP. | |
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tork15
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 12:32:28 AM | | but seriously, it shouldnt matter to you what guys think, especially on that subject. you do what you must, why you must. you have your reasons, just like the drug your on has its reasons for being around. good luck with your struggles, dear! | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 1:08:25 PM |
but seriously, it shouldnt matter to you what guys think, especially on that subject. you do what you must, why you must. you have your reasons, just like the drug your on has its reasons for being around. good luck with your struggles, dear!
Thanks man. | |
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| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 8:30:32 PM | | Are you a Doctor, Nurse, Medical Professional or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? If you see a Family Practice or as you mentioned General Practice Doctor, that person has spent countless years studying medicine, and before ANY (Antidepressant, Cardiac, or Narcotic) is filled at a Pharmacy, a RPh reviews the script against the patients records. So a F.P. DR knows a little bit more than what your giving them credit for. They may not feel comfortable with providing constant treatment for a mental dissorder, but are usually willing to prescribe a tried and true med until your able to get into a mental health professional. | |
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