|
|
|
|
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 8:42:06 PM | OOOOWEEEE...150mg of Effexor would make a hound dog smile. That is heavy duty mood stabilizing medication....took it when my Mom passed from Cancer. It will put serious spiders in your head  | |
|
| I'm sooo depressed!
Posted: 7/13/2007 9:22:35 PM | Hmmm....I just perused your profile....I couldn't find anything about a medical degree...especially one in a speicalty field such as psychiatry or neurologogy.....but I did notice those nasty little addictions of yours....coffee and nicotine.....still the most addictive, yet accepted vices in society today.
Perhaps you should invest some time researching the various and asundry neurological brain disorders that can finally be treated. There is such a social stigma around these illnesses....most by people like yourself who've no idea what they're talking about. So many creative, intelligent, hard working people have suffered in ways that you will never understand in order to function in their daily lives.....and then to deal with bigots like yourself who seek out to demean the self esteem that they so tenaciously work to obtain.
In my humble opinion.....we could all learn from these people....courage, humity,the ability to function against tremendous odds, and getting back up each time they're knocked down by yet another medical setback....as doctors are yet to determine a cure....just a treatment. And then dealing day in and day out with insenitive, judgmental clods who should 'sweep around their own back door, before sweeping around another's'. It would be interesting to see just how much of a 'freak' you would be were you in nicotine and caffiene withdrawal yet another 'legal' crackhead.
Go out and do some volunteer work with one of these groups....attend a one of their meetings.....it just might alter your opinion.
my 2 cents | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 9:41:30 PM |
If you see a Family Practice or as you mentioned General Practice Doctor, that person has spent countless years studying medicine, and before ANY (Antidepressant, Cardiac, or Narcotic) is filled at a Pharmacy, a RPh reviews the script against the patients records. So a F.P. DR knows a little bit more than what your giving them credit for.
That doesn't make them a specialist in the field, nor mean that they have studied those specific medications.
Your statement could be turned around, you are giving them a bit more credit than they should be given.
As an example, would you trust a brain surgeon to do a major heart transplant on you? (Assuming they know nothing whatsoever about the other field?) This is what it's akin to.
And I repeat, a lot of companies are getting sued now for lying about their medications, and their possible side effects due to wrongful death. So why are you assuming they are "tried and true"?
Anyone who willingly takes foreign substances into their body without investigating the matter, is taking a chance. Now add to that the fact that the F.P. or G.P. may not even know what they are prescribing and how it will effect this person, and you're just adding another needless risk.
OOOOWEEEE...150mg of Effexor would make a hound dog smile. That is heavy duty mood stabilizing medication....took it when my Mom passed from Cancer. It will put serious spiders in your head
I was on that dosage in the past, it didn't do barely anything for me. I was actually on a few other medications that had totally adverse effects on me to what they are normally supposed to do. I had one medication that is basically legal "speed", and I was sleeping almost 18 hours a day on that. (I quit it soon after.) (Caffeine actually puts me to sleep...as a side note.)
See, that's what I mean by everyone reacts differently, and this is why it should be left up to specialists, and they should keep a close eye on it. | |
|
| |
| I'm sooo depressed!
Posted: 7/13/2007 10:02:38 PM | | I don't have a medical degree, however, I am a NREMT and Instructor, I drink coffee and some soda on a regular basis, as well as smoke. Plus I take a daily antidepressant. I don't know a single person alive that wouldn't be on one after they've seen and had to do the things I've had to do. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/13/2007 10:07:19 PM | Well then you have no reason to go to a Family Practice DR. Sore throat? Go to and ENT, Bad Knee? Ortho.
You're jumping to the assumption that I still go to one. 
I agree, most people should go to specialists for certain issues. It's a wonder they even have F.P.'s or G.P.'s still. I think the reason most people go to a FP or GP, is because specialists cost more.
Judging from your screen name, you are an EMT, and maybe that's why you are taking this personally?
If you are a EMT, congrats and  , my mom was one for a few years also.
If not, why are you getting so offended? It's only my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to 'force' it on anyone, I'm only pointing things out.
Edit : I posted this right as you said that you were a EMT. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 4:10:14 AM | | Its not that I take it personal, its that I see you judging someone when nobody has the right to judge. You don't know someone situation, and the fact that they may only be able to see a Family Practice MD. I'm sure that mental health professionals can be hard to come by in different areas. And the person may not even be able to afford to pay to see one. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 4:40:53 AM | Do you have any idea how many American men and women are on antidepressants? It's epidemic in this country. We solve problems with pills rather than encouraging a broad spectrum therapeutic journey.
Our culture fosters depression, alienation, and materialism. It fosters unrealistic goals, and pats those on the back who are willing to climb to the top at any cost [except breaking laws] -- but it doesn't foster families anymore. Our culture does not encourage intradependent relationships. It's all about the individual, it's all about waiting for a disaster to strike before we come together.
People are depressed because they come from dysfuntional families, and live in a dysfunctional culture. People say depression is primarily a genetic predisposition? You must be kidding me. The problem is human needs aren't being met, and people aren't provided coping skills to deal with a barage of competition, perfection, and let's not even mention the magazine covers.
I live in a country where alcohol laden whores who get DUI's and end up in prison are "The role models."
So no, I don't judge people for it, I don't think negatively about them. I can see exactly why the problem is epidemic. People aren't obese simply because they have access to more food. People aren't dying of drug addiction simply because drugs are abound.
We're killing ourselves with ineffective health care policies, with racism, with eating disorders, -- the list is long.
Sure some people are able to rise through it unscathed, but the majority? Not a chance. Until "you, me and everyone else" realizes we're being duped, we'll blame everyone else instead of making the change from within, but that takes a process -- that takes a revolution.
There is a song called Ammunition which pretty much lays it out:
Blame it on what you've been through, blame it on what you're into.
Blame it on your religion, blame it on politicians.
We've been blowing up, yeah, we're the the issue,
It's our condition.
We've been blowing up, we're the issue, the ammunition. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 6:00:02 AM |
Its not that I take it personal, its that I see you judging someone when nobody has the right to judge.
Well, then you've been mis-reading what I've been saying, because that hasn't been what I've been trying to do in this thread. I've been trying to get people to open their minds to other possibilities, and to stop blindly following everything they are told.
If you think I'm judging, then find one statement I've made in here telling anyone what to do with their lives.
I don't think I've made a single statement that wasn't open to interpretation in a few ways.
And also, if nobody has the "right" to judge, then why do we have a law system to begin with? Why do we have judges? Why is it that "juries" of our peers daily decide some other person's fate?
Can you open your mind to other possibilities? Or are people in this world so close-minded that they would rather be a follower? (Look at a lot of the cults, religions, even children nowadays...seriously look closer at things. If you open your eyes to the possibilities, anyone can do what they want to achieve.)
You may disagree with my stance on issues, and that's fine, and I can disagree with your stance also.
That's one of the great things about people, we don't have to all agree on something for life to continue on.
Do you seriously think that anything most of us do in life will be remembered for a long time after we die?
Ideas are power, ideas make the world grow, and ideas in general are remembered, and adapted to suit the needs of civilizations. Ideas continue on.
People tend to be forgotten over time. (Historians nowadays are trying to do a better job of keeping track of people making significant changes...but unless it was massively life-altering, those people aren't remembered.)
I just wish people would stop blindly following, and begin taking the steps to lead their own lives, since we all claim to want our individualism. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 6:12:17 AM |
Blame it on what you've been through, blame it on what you're into. Blame it on your religion, blame it on politicians. We've been blowing up, yeah, we're the the issue, It's our condition. We've been blowing up, we're the issue, the ammunition.
Food for thought...
| |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 7:28:46 AM | One of my sisters has taken antidepressants in the past; maybe she still does, I'm not sure (it's not exactly something you bring up in casual conversation). I refuse to hold it against her; I've seen the difference in her moods, her state of mind, from before she was taking them to afterward.
The brain is such a complex piece of biological machinery, that it shouldn't be surprising or a "deal breaker" that some people struggle with something wired not quite right, a chemical imbalance, something, that may require medication to straighten out. In that light, I wouldn't call it anything different than a diabetic taking insulin. | |
|
qwirx
|
Joined: 5/6/2007
Msg: 287 | |
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 8:29:36 AM | I don't think they would be a deal breaker if u need em USE em. My roomate has been on them for 3 yrs I seen what happens if she doesn't take her meds. She will just erupt like a volcanoe full of emotional lava. So by all means if you need em use just don't use them as a crutch like some pple do to get the sympathy award.
qwirx | |
|
| |
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 9:47:02 AM | | And I've also thought like that, a loooonnng time ago, when I was first ill....when I was seventeen and wishing that our healthcare system prescribed wellness center visits and retreats to meditation camps instead of medication...but it doesn't. So I got a degree, got a job, am currently aquiring higher education, so i can afford true therapy. AND THAT, MY FRIEND, IS THE SYSTEM. We have to use their help so that we can be strong enough to help ourselves. We have to take what their offering. And then eventually, i can afford a sunlamp in my living room, and a peace fountain in my bedroom with tibetan pipe music emanating through the walls...despite the fact that outside my window, people are knifing each other for twenty bucks. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 10:18:30 AM | Hey Prudegirl,
I myself take anti-depressants. Well right now only lithium which is a mood stabilizer. I wish I could have the anti-depressant back, but many don't work. And I'm going to be having surgery for weight loss, and they said they don't want to put me back on meds that are weight gainers. So I'm kinda stuck right now. But doing ok with it. I am not crazy. The doctor will tell you that bi-polar or depression, is like an illness just like cancer, diabetes, etc. and can be treated, not cured by the right medicine. So I think it is super to have and helps me get on normal with my life. It's a chemical imbalance of the brain, so noone can help that. That is my view. Good Topic. | |
|
| |
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 1:26:58 PM | | I would not think anything less of a gal on antidepressants than a gal on insulin, they are both treating medical conditions. Many of those “normal” people who would look down on it are nut jobs themselves. | |
|
| A Depressing Summary Too
Posted: 7/14/2007 6:43:13 PM | What strikes me most about this thread is the tendency of some to see only the negative. Just because, I looked rather carefully at the responses to this thread. Thus far, a total of 143 different IDs have replied to this thread. Of that total, 51 have replied that they would date someone on meds, 19 stated that they might date someone on meds and 13 wrote that they would not date someone on meds (including myself). The other 60 respondents did not state a reply to the original question so we don't know what they think and their comments were sometimes positive, sometimes negative. I noted a couple other interesting points. Of the 143 IDs responding, 42 were either taking medication for a mental illness or they had taken medication in the past. A total of 17 respondents have said this sort of medication is over prescribed and some of those had experience taking it.
If you read some of the responses from the pro-pill-popping lobby, you would get the impression that the majority of others on this thread and in the world are stigmatizing them, judging them, and generally hindering their existance. Well, the numbers don't lie, and the numbers say this is a pile of rubbish. A significant majority of respondents here, and I suspect in the real world, are either supportive or neutral to your "illness". So, the vitriolic responses to anyone with a negative opinion of taking meds at the drop of a hat seems to suggest the problem is with the attitude of pill-poppers. What you want, and generally get (based on the evidence here), is unconditional affirmation for your choices (including, but not limited to pill-popping). I think the old term for that sort of behavior was: spoiled brat :o
Most people here these days seem to have been socialized to believe some unbelieveable things about themselves and the world around them. Happiness is just one emotional state folks. Nobody is happy all the time. Even in feel-good movies the characters go through a series of emotional states. Nobody is just happy. Maybe those movies have given a significant percentage of the population a wrong-headed opinion that other states should only exist for a period of less than two hours and resolve back into happiness as the natural state. I bring up media because it seems that a number of folks who have responded here seem to have an unrealistic appreciation of self and I can only assume they derive their expectations from media sources.
I find it disturbing to read the number of individuals that pop pills to lead an ordinary life. Even if the cause were a chemical imbalance (and there is no substantial evidence supporting that theory although many pill-poppers seem to like that idea a lot), such imbalances seem to have origins in external sources in most cases. In other words, popping pills won't solve the problem though it might let you manage it. What's ironic about the support for management is that, obviously, since the externals are the cause for much of the claims for needs for popping pills, changing the externals will allow for a solution (that would be doing something about the problem in English). Yet, that seems to be discounted in favor of management. I am at a loss to understand the logic.
I'm just a much at a loss to understand some of the replies I've garnered. I suppose I missed the rhetoric class on condemning others on the basis of your own faults. The middle-aged smoker critiquing my smoking and age ranks as my favorite but if you've followed carefully, there are several folks with this style. It's kinda weird, if you were to ask me.
verygreeneyez wrote in Msg: 243 ...I will never end up old, angry, alone, and bitter...
Okay. Fine.
idahosun wrote in Msg: 249 ...a good counselor they CAN AFFORD...
I keep forgetting that the USA has no universal health care. Maybe if ya'll did, there'd be fewer of you popping pills since you could afford a psychiatrist who would tell you that pills won't solve your problems.
Peter52245 wrote in Msg: 260 Ralph was the one that was telling people to stop taking them because in his mind it makes people weak.
Well, actually, what I recall saying was that pill-poppers are weaklings because they are taking meds as a crutch and that led to my more-or-less conditioned response that I would consider taking meds a deal breaker. I also stated that folks that really, honest to goodness need pills to function normally (and I think that is a very small percentage of the total on meds), is that they are honest to goodness sick and therefore are also disqualified from the pool of potential dates I'd consider.
idahosun wrote in Msg: 263 My educated guess is that many of the anti-med types in this thread have dated and been involved with lots of people who are on meds and you never even knew it!
Well, you'd be wrong. A number of the "anti-med types" have intimate experience with pill-poppers as evidenced by the responses to this thread. It's actually become something I ask about, rather forwardly, at the beginning. Then again, due to experience, I also ask about any criminal background. Hey, what can I say? It saves on getting surprised when planning on going cross-border ;)
SteeleMagnolia wrote in Msg: 279 Perhaps you should invest some time researching the various and asundry neurological brain disorders that can finally be treated. There is such a social stigma around these illnesses....most by people like yourself who've no idea what they're talking about.
Look, I've stated an opinion and in the process have bothered to become informed. It seems that isn't good enough. Yet, the deafening silence towards those who have done a bit of research of expert opinion and have suggested it is the pill-poppers that are wrong-headed doesn't bother you? If you read the start of this post, you'll also see that the "stigma" argument doesn't seem very convincing either. Fact is, most people are willing to tolerate pill-popping spoiled brats (at least until they've gotten some experience).
If I must, let me just reiterate, I would consider a qualified mental illness a dealbreaker too because they're honest to goodness sick. I don't date cancer patients or paraplegics either. I know, I'm sooo narrow-minded :p
SteeleMagnolia wrote in Msg: 279 It would be interesting to see just how much of a 'freak' you would be were you in nicotine and caffiene withdrawal yet another 'legal' crackhead.
Yeah. Well, maybe I'm just of the opinion that there is a difference between drinking coffee or smoking cigarettes, and popping Xanax or smoking crack. Maybe it's just me. Anyway, physical withdrawal lasts three days to a week -- at most. It is really the positive social elements that make quiting caffine or nicotine difficult. It's a rather different situation with meds... or crack. | |
|
| A Depressing Summary Too
Posted: 7/14/2007 7:33:49 PM |
I keep forgetting that the USA has no universal health care. Maybe if ya'll did, there'd be fewer of you popping pills since you could afford a psychiatrist who would tell you that pills won't solve your problems.
American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition - Cite This Source
psychiatry [(seye-keye-uh-tree, si-keye-uh-tree)]
The medical science that studies and treats mental illness and mental maladjustment. Psychiatrists treat mental disorders; psychologists study mental activities, whether healthy or disordered. In the United States, psychiatrists usually hold the degree of doctor of medicine (M.D.) and may prescribe medication for their patients.
In the area I live, for the most part psychiatrists prescribe medication and psychologists and counselors provide various therapies. | |
|
| A Depressing Summary Too
Posted: 7/14/2007 10:44:32 PM |
for the most part psychiatrists prescribe medication and psychologists and counselors provide various therapies.
Its misleading to call shrink chemical medicines because there is no way to test if they do anything. Any independent research shows these so-called meds do nothing. There are courses in university that show that psychiatry is quackery, but psychiatrists are like the catholic church . they can say up is down. the public thinks psychiatrists are medical doctors/scientists dealing with a scientific subject. they are nothing more than witch doctors. its amazing because any research that has ever been done back up what im saying but that makes zero difference because the public is stupid.
I am not going to debate with you whether or not meds work. Just for the record I am prescribed my meds by a Primary Care Physician. I have been his patient for 20 years. I do know what works and does not work for me. | |
|
| A Depressing Summary Too
Posted: 7/14/2007 10:50:23 PM | I think that anyone who takes a firm stand FOR or AGAINST antidepressants is not seeing the big picture. I think that most smart people on this site have given both the good and bad sides of antidepressants. It's the crazy people who think ONE solid view who are the real nutjobs.
~beware the man of only one book. | |
|
| A Depressing Summary Too
Posted: 7/14/2007 11:04:37 PM | camel crown, in your profile you said
who is like rain and snwo on the mountain of life.
poetic, but many typos...
that aside, i think you're kinda right about the placebo. it's true in many ways. but there is also no denying that pills DO change a person's brain chemistry.
you seem sweet though.
happy fishing. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/14/2007 11:10:42 PM | i know im not a guy..... but really - if a guy is going to judge you for that you shouldn't be with him.
and it depends on the person of course. and how that medication is working for them. | |
|
| what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 7/15/2007 2:05:58 AM |
I keep forgetting that the USA has no universal health care. Maybe if ya'll did, there'd be fewer of you popping pills since you could afford a psychiatrist who would tell you that pills won't solve your problems.
Psychiatrists treat mental disorders; psychologists study mental activities, whether healthy or disordered.
I think you just proved his point.
I think it's just that we keep putting down the wrong words....psychiatrist/psychologist sound the same in the human mind. (At least I've noticed I can't remember the difference between the two without continuously looking them up.).
Peter52245 wrote in Msg: 260 Ralph was the one that was telling people to stop taking them because in his mind it makes people weak.
Well, actually, what I recall saying was that pill-poppers are weaklings because they are taking meds as a crutch and that led to my more-or-less conditioned response that I would consider taking meds a deal breaker. I also stated that folks that really, honest to goodness need pills to function normally (and I think that is a very small percentage of the total on meds), is that they are honest to goodness sick and therefore are also disqualified from the pool of potential dates I'd consider.
I think I condensed what you said down to a simple statement (For the people who don't like long-winded rhetoric), but I think we're on the same wave-length in general.
If I'm wrong, tell me so.
AND THAT, MY FRIEND, IS THE SYSTEM.
Haha, if you want to talk about the system....trust me I know it. I was a part of the system for years. (This is part of my personal story that I typed out a bit of awhile back and then deleted.) Contact me if you'd like to understand more about what I mean. | |
|
yahmez
|
Joined: 1/7/2007
Msg: 300 | |
| |
|
| Page 12 of 14
|
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 |
|
Home
login 
