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Posted: 10/17/2004 12:41:34 AM | Flgrifin - Great post, wonderful attitude. I imagine that women swarm about you like bees about honey. 
WS6TA - The Sociobiology theories... Interesting, but I don't buy it. I agree that where there is no "chemistry," you're probably not going to get past a first date. But I don't agree that chemistry has much to do with looks. Truly repulsive people are rare. For me, chemistry has more to do with the way a man carries himself, his confidence and his intellect. I've dated some very sexy men who weren't very good looking and been crazy about them. I've also gone out with some extremely handsome men that I wouldn't give a second thought to seeing again. | |
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Msg: 202 | |
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Posted: 10/17/2004 3:25:19 AM | darlingnada:
I'm the man you would never consider nevertheless at all.... my hypothesis is correct in therory...
Yes Flgriffin is an inspration to us all he is a wise man. | |
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Msg: 203 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/17/2004 3:31:11 AM | Car
Then what's your complant? I have never once got anything? Why can't you believe me? If what I was saying wasn't true do you actually believe I would be here? I'm not talking of the net either. I just spen 6 hours in a nightclub this saturday night and no one would speak to me, how do you think that feels?
You don't know ugly until you have walked in my shoes... | |
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Posted: 10/17/2004 3:32:29 AM | aahhh!!! Whatever. It's 3:345Am sunday mornign, earlier today the first thing I did before evertything else I did. I went to see my prostitute friends. They are so beatiful and kind.
I know you don't approve of that ... specialy the women here.
I don't care. I agree sex is not everything, but what is wrong with getting it once in a while.
I would be a 34 year old virgin but I'm not.
Come on CaR maybe you should do the same and stop crying.
By the way if you disaprove... **** you. | |
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Msg: 205 | |
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Posted: 10/17/2004 3:36:03 AM | | Robetini: Even the hookers won't have nothing to do with me...That's when you realise how ugly you are.................................... | |
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Posted: 10/17/2004 3:39:10 AM | if you say so.
But today was a nice day. I like different kind of days. Today it rained in L.A. It almost never rains here. I got soaked a few times. I don't see why people don't want to get wet. It's just water. I enjoy getting wet and going crazy and wild once again. Once again going crazy and wild. You almost never get wet here.
Bye good night. I meant good morning. | |
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Msg: 207 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys...and toronto girls suck
Posted: 10/17/2004 8:43:52 AM | ws6ta
its cause their tha wrong girls then
i mean really on this site i got girls who replied to me OUT OF TORONTO
it's makes sense, ut then again im always good to go in chat rooms
i guess im not cut out for this web dating thing
i just dont like it here
god i want to leave so bad
and go to tha states...
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Msg: 209 | |
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Msg: 210 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys...and toronto girls suck
Posted: 10/17/2004 1:24:04 PM | Car:
the place makes little differance. I've lived all over the place and its always the same old story.
I agree that this online dating thing is pretty much useless to most guys. Maybe a rich, movie star looking fella might do well but just average joe's have no chance. Besides would you really want to go out with one of those sleezzy bags that never reply to your e-mails. I wouldn't! Tells me right there the person has no values or respect for other people a very poor quiality in my opinion and a disgrace of a human being.
Just look at this site like I do. I'm not here to find a date! I'm here only to seek answers and help others do the same. It's very comforting to be able learn things about yourself so one can improve one's self. It's all so very nice to help others do like wise and share in the experience knowing you did a good thing by helping another and that helps you become a better person in the process too. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2004 6:32:52 PM | | It can be pretty depressing for us girls too, when there are a large number of men listen in your area, but 95% of them that actaully post pictures are just gross or weird. Most of the men in my area don't even have a photo. It's not that I base everything on looks alone, but I like to at least see if a man knows how to clean up (cause allot of men in my area don't have the soap and water concept down) and if they look mean. Which....guys do you know that when you post a photo and you are...I guess trying to look macho...not smiling at all, it makes you look mean? | |
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Msg: 212 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys...and toronto girls suck
Posted: 10/17/2004 6:47:57 PM | | ws6ta i would have to disagree with you slightly.online dating can work but it is just a matter of a profile being in the rigt place at the right time,and the right person seeing it.i have noticed that you always put yourself down when you should be selling your stronger points ie i may not be a great looker but my personality more than makes up for this.stuff like that, | |
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Msg: 213 | |
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Msg: 214 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/18/2004 1:34:53 PM | dark moon:
I wouldn't read to much into the photo's thing. Some sites because of the required Pic sizes tend to alter the photo's to a great degree.
As for the not smiling thing all I can say is us guys tend to be a bit sensitive when it comes to having our photo taken. Either we don't know how to poise ouselves in a pleasing manner or we just think we would look silly if we were smiling too much...
Keep trying but your best luck will be in the real world not a dating site. Many of us just come here to discuss issues and share in experiences. We all improve with the knowledge we gain from such talk.
Wish you luck :) | |
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Msg: 215 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys...and toronto girls suck
Posted: 10/18/2004 1:49:24 PM | roaul:
I would have to agree with you statement regarding it can work but the margin of success is very slim. Especially without some major attributes such: as money, great looks, etc,.
Question? Have you ever viewed my profile? It's very cheer and upbeat... There is certainly no others like mine, it's unquie and inventative.
As for me putting myself down: I don't feel as if I'm doing that here in the forums. I'm simply stating facts of truth as I see it and asking the questions no one else seems to dare ask? I'm trying to learn something and if it means having to risk my self-esteem in order to find a new one I'm all for it. Because I sure don't like not knowing it's far worse than the alternative.
As for your suggestion tried that a few times in e-mails none of which ever replied back.
I've even considered returning to one of those dating sites to conduct a little experiment. If I was such a nice guy I might have tried it but I really don't want to be as shallow as the people who never responded to me. Nevertheless, my idea was to post a PIC of this great looking guy assign him a well paying job and a career of total excitment. Give him all the same qualities I posses and run the test for one month. I'm almost willing to bet that test would prove some dramtic results and the whole time all these beautiful ladies kept calling I just insult the crap out of them... But hey I'm to nice to do something like that but I would be interested in reading the results of such an experiment if someone else ever did it. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 1:52:52 PM | | dark_moon i couldnt agree with you more! the woman i have to chose from in this area are bigger then me. im not mel gibson,but at least i try to stay in a little shape. and when they do write back its MARRIAGE that they are intrested in. well i was married for 31 years and this is the 1st time in my life im alone. and i really like it. but im intrested in dating, and that seems to be a problem here. | |
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Msg: 217 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/18/2004 2:02:02 PM | Krypto:
I've touched on the subject about photo's before in another thread at one time or another.
I did my best to explain that if someone is avoiding posting a PIC in hope that their profile is enough to make a first impression then they are sadly mistaken. The No PIC syndrome says above all else that "I don't want you to know what I look like" That first impression leads far ahead of the intended first impression that the person wanted people to see. Don't know why they think posting no pick mean they are surplanting a first impression with another, for it's not.
The No PIC syndrome leaves a couple of very strong messages. One being "I'm fearful of revealing what I look like..." Or in other words they are saying they have an insecurity problem which in turn relates to a less than honest attitude. If they are so stubornly reclusive to post no Pic then that is a sign of irresposible behavior, untrustworthyness and lack of self-esteem. It matters not if this actually be the case but it does communicate that message to others despite the reality. That's just my $.02 :) | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 2:09:25 PM | | WS6TA how many times have you been lied to from the ones with no pic? the very 1st date i went on from one of these sites the woman told me that if she lost 20 more pounds she could fit in a bikini! well when we met (and i still cant figgure out why they lie knowing full well that we will eventually meet) she was 260 at least. best thing is to ask for a pic, NO PIC NO DATE | |
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Msg: 219 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/18/2004 2:38:35 PM | rusty:
Never been lied to by anyone with a PIC or without a PIC. No one ever contacts me so therefore I can't be lied too; very well can I?
However to answer your question:
I would assume it is possible that some would lie but if they did thinking that they could sway them over before ever revealing what they looked like would be a self-inflected wound they could and should of avoided. Plus it's insulting and distasteful manners to subjugate another to false impressions. Do they really believe they will achieve the results they want by acting in such a manner?
I think reality dictates and proves you don't catch honest men with dishonest behavior and vise versa. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 2:46:42 PM | | all i can tell you is to not give up on online dating, while it may be true that the guys outnumber girls online [i'm not sure of this..i'm going by what you tell me]there maybe someone decent online for you,cause in the real world girls outnumber the guys where i come from and i refuse to desparately throw myself at men like i have seen some women do.my other advice is do not give up the traditional ways of meeting people either.KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN. its depressing for me too,cause i have never done anything like this before and feel i have reached an all time low in life.hopefully this will work out for the best. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 2:59:16 PM | | this whole online thing is just another tool the way i see it.... its like if you ONLY went to one particular bar or something and neglected every other place you go in life as a source of finding a partner.... this is the same thing, you cant expect to just look online only and quickly find that someone... rather just enjoy whats here but keep your heart open to the chance and maybe make a few friends along the way. | |
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Msg: 222 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/18/2004 3:11:10 PM | alichrsha:
I don't plan too but I guess there is a time when one must face the music and accept what will be; will be...
I felt and still do that I reached an all time low for going to something like this so your not alone in that thought. But this site is truly a diamond amoung the rest of the worthless stones (sites). Here you can learn something, which I find a great comfort.
So, where are these girls that throw themselves at men? Sure isn't any down here... :( LOL
Keep your chin up doll,I'm certain you will have success. | |
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Msg: 223 | |
| Online dating is depressing for guys
Posted: 10/18/2004 3:17:09 PM | Boredcountryboy:
Yea, that's exactly how I saw it in the begining three years ago. I also thought like you said that one site would be like visiting one bar so I registered at several...
Now three years later and a half dozen different websites. I've quickly discovered that no one on any of them is interested in me. :( Now I feel like it's all been a hopeless pursuit and nothing learned from it except how to be robbed of money and diginity.
But your right about making some friends, no one real close just yet but. I have talked to many on here I find very insightful and a pleasure to hear from. Please count yourself as one of them as well. :) | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 3:57:56 PM | WS6TA - Hmmmmm.... Just looked at your profile and thought it was delightful, so you are wrong. You, however, would not consider me, as I am out of your stated age range.  | |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 4:19:17 PM | kryptosdaddy - Thank you for the warm welcome! I've been experimenting with the online dating thing for about 5 years now, with pretty good success. I don't do the bar thing, and have sort of a "policy" of not dating men I'm involved with in my professional life, so meeting people online just seemed a good option... a good way for a busy person to sort through what's available and make some informed choices, so to speak. LOL! Admittedly, one has to check out many oysters before finding a pearl, but that's the case, IMO, in any area of life.
A side note to all the guys who have been posting expressions of disappointment at not having their inquiries answered. I sent out several when I first found this site. Of those, I've had replies from only about 25% - so it's not just a "rejecting the guys" thing. I've had several others that wrote to me, and have replied to every one. For me, making a reply to someone who takes their time to write is just common courtesy. I rule out those who are not geographically accessible (I don't want a long distance relationship) and who obviously seem to be incompatible (looking for something other then what I seek or have habits I know I wouldn't be happy with, etc.), but the rest, I invite to email further in an effort to get to know them better. Most, we'll mutually discover that we should wish one another the best and continue to look. A small few, I might eventually have a first date with. Most of those, I'll never see again. But rarely, I've met men who were delightful and have gone on to form some lasting friendships and even a hot romance or two.
So don't give in to bitterness. Sometimes, it's just a matter of numbers. ;) | |
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