| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/27/2008 9:50:50 PM | It's okay Zac. I can be over the top at times and I usually get misunderstood by men for some reason as women usually take me with a grain of salt.
Back to tats.
Does anyone think that a certain kind of tattoo placed in a certain area means that a woman is more likely than not to have certain character traits? | |
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DÖÑ
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Joined: 1/9/2008
Msg: 102 | |
| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/27/2008 9:51:34 PM | I agree that Distinction shouldn't be the reason you get a tattoo.
And while that may influence how they interact with you, it's not self-distinction. It's image projection.
I had stated that distinction is a side effect or biproduct of getting a tat. The way people view themselves does indeed change. Image projection is the medium used to distinct yourserlf. Others do indeed judge, those judgments will be internalized in some way shape or form. Do we not judge ourselves too? There's a million reasons why someone would get a tattoo. Some people get them of friends or family members that passed away. I've heard stories of people getting tear drops tattooed on they're faces to symbolize that they have killed another person. These are sometimes faked to build respect too. Not that anybody should have to explain why they got one, it's they're body and they're choice. I asked my ex-gf once why she got her tattoos and she shrugged and said cause they look cool.
The average civilian with a few bucks to blow on a streetside tattoo parlor has absolutely no clue what they're messing with when they come up with that kind of story. If you want a tattoo - especially one that means something to you - fine, go get one. Just try not to blow smoke up people's butts about it. That's gross.
Some people just don't care what others think and love to throw it in societies picky little face. BTW tatoos don't cost a few bucks, but I agree that the person with the tattoo shouldn't be going around blowing smoke up peoples asses about the tattoo either ;) | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/27/2008 10:12:32 PM |
Does anyone think that a certain kind of tattoo placed in a certain area means that a woman is more likely than not to have certain character traits?
I girl with facial tattoos is more likely to win in unarmed combat... | |
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DÖÑ
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Joined: 1/9/2008
Msg: 104 | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:01:07 PM |
The way people view themselves does indeed change.
That's certainly true for some people, which is why I said I would question the motives of someone who gets a tattoo to distiguish their identity. There's not much credibility in saying one's tattoo is about self-expression when one can't distinguish themselves without it. In the end, just about any rationalization other than saying, "Because I wanted one," like your girlfriend, is arguable in my opinion. That's when the smoke gets blowing. ;)
BTW tatoos don't cost a few bucks
I was speaking relatively. I'm hip. (In best Cleavon Little voice I can muster) | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:07:02 PM | | Firegoat, in your eyes, what are 'credible' ways to distinguish oneSelf? | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:16:54 PM | | And here I just thought it was solidarity for Michael Jackson. Guess I miscalled that one. | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/28/2008 12:16:32 AM |
Firegoat, in your eyes, what are 'credible' ways to distinguish oneSelf?
Good question! Here's an example: I ride a motorcycle. I love the freedom I experience in the wind, the presence of mind required in the moment and the adventure of travelling on the road. Not to mention the practical benefits driving around town, and yes, I think it looks cool. Love of freedom and adventure, striving to be in the moment, practicality and wanting to look cool are some of the aspects that make up my personality. When I bought my first bike, it was because I thought I would like it because, on some level, motorcycles spoke to those aspects and I wanted to see.
I would consider reasons similar to some of those, and many more, to be credible ways to distinguish oneself with a tattoo or anything else. The bottom line to that is, I didn't start riding to figure out who I was - I already knew, even if only subconsciously. So I can say with credibility that my bike is a function of self-expression. It didn't change who I was.
That's not to say that you shouldn't do anything without knowing yourself - trying new things is a great way to help figure that out. But when you do that, it's not credible to say that you did it to express yourself as much as to find yourself. 'Course, that just makes for a different story when you tell it, but it will ring with true meaning then. Honesty is the best policy, no? | |
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DÖÑ
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Joined: 1/9/2008
Msg: 109 | |
| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/28/2008 12:50:57 AM | | Motorcycles are very dangerous and a growing fad amongst midlife crisis adults. Both my parents ride them and love them, but they have their whole lives. A radical vehicle change should be credible. I would like to see an example of a fashion statement that was 'credible' though. Tattoos are relatively harmless pieces of art. The only reason anybody would scrutinizing there credibility is probably someone raised with the stigma that they are taboo. | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/28/2008 8:59:55 AM | ^^^
DON, I can see all of that having merit in another discussion, but those points have nothing to do with being a credible way of distinguishing oneself, which is what Zac asked. | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/28/2008 10:50:46 AM |
The only reason anybody would scrutinizing there credibility is probably someone raised with the stigma that they are taboo.
By the way, I do see what you're saying, but I think perhaps I haven't gotten my point across. My main point, which I think we've already agreed upon, is that what matters is that the person getting a tattoo wants one.
Maybe I'm getting caught up in the finer details, but where I came in was when everything outside of that was offered as justification, and I'm saying that those are all refutable by someone committed to an anti-tattoo opinion. But that's not really about the person with the tattoo, then. | |
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DÖÑ
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Joined: 1/9/2008
Msg: 112 | |
| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/29/2008 2:32:09 AM | Firegoat I like your style and enjoyed debating with ya... I'm a jobless insomniac so I think I have you at a disadvantage ;) well anyways I got no tat's so I was just playin the devil advocate. I like hearing the different views people have and like airing our differences in a civilized manor... I hope to read you're rebuddle's later on in other tpoix  | |
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| Firegoat11
Posted: 4/29/2008 5:38:17 AM | methinks goatie and Don needs to go together and get matching tatts that say "we agree to disagree" in a nice Celtic design. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 7:48:34 AM |
Jade, I have a discreetly placed kitty cat paw right next to my err...kitty.....
Barbe...
What's your, uhh.... kitty's name?
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 5:32:22 PM |
Barbe...
What's your, uhh.... kitty's name?
I don't have a kitty...err a kitty cat that is, and I call my kitty, kitty, why what do you call yours? | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 6:11:25 PM | | I didn't realize we needed to name it... that explains the outrage coming from that region... no identity... | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 6:14:55 PM | | I was considering a small biohazard symbol on the inside of my ankle. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 6:15:06 PM |
that explains the outrage coming from that region... no identity...
hope that's not a sexual identity disorder!!! | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:16:31 PM |
I was considering a small biohazard symbol on the inside of my ankle.
LOL, I thought you were going to write "a small biohazard symbol next to your kitty. LOL. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 4/30/2008 9:00:19 PM | I have refrained from getting a tattoo. However, I have thought about getting a very small tattoo where only a SO could see.... but there are things that come to mind that prevent me from getting a tattoo:
1. I'll lose my blood donor status for a year, and I'd rather save a baby or a leukemia patient.
2. Hepatitis C scares the poo out of me.
3. I'm encouraging my daughter NOT to get one and I'd be a hypocrite.
4. I've seen tattoo's on 70+ yr. old bottoms (worked at a hospital) and mistook the tattoo on the saggy baggy bottom as a poop spot.
5. Haven't discovered anything that I want permanently on my body - except for what God gave me.
If I do change my mind.... a sprig of Christmas Holly to represent my name or a Tulip for my lineage.
I have a lot of female friends with tattoos...and now that they are older they are regretting getting so many of them - or regretting they got them at all.
Do I like them? Some are absolute works of art and I can say yes - just not on me. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 5/1/2008 3:01:25 PM |
LOL, I thought you were going to write "a small biohazard symbol next to your kitty No no, I am all dangerous, not just one part of me. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 5/1/2008 5:57:24 PM | No no, I am all dangerous, not just one part of me.
Trix, you need to walk around wearing a sandwich placard with a hazardous to your health symbol on the front and back! | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 5/1/2008 11:21:15 PM |
No no, I am all dangerous, not just one part of me.
AtomicMom! I like it. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 5/2/2008 12:08:30 AM | A bio-hazard sign next to AtomicMom’s boo boo kitty? How about a sign that says: Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here.
I saw one over the entrance to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland.
Haven't discovered anything that I want permanently on my body I’m different… I’d like that little blond twentysomething from this year’s Dancing With The Stars permanently on my body.
Less Stamp, More Tramp. | |
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| Women & Tattoos
Posted: 5/2/2008 5:53:15 AM |
I’m different… I’d like that little blond twentysomething from this year’s Dancing With The Stars permanently on my body
Sock! You need to open your wallet, pull out your man card, and hand it over right now! Man Law: A man may in secret watch Dancing with the stars just to see the hot chicks of course, but he would never admit it! | |
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