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rsx11s
| | Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 51 | |
| | are you glad the hippies have gone?Page 3 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) |
The druggie generation (aka 'Hippies' aka 'Baby Boomers') managed to do a MASSIVE amount of damage to western society.
Proof by assertion doesn't work so well around here. Can you back this up?
[quotw]The drug induced portion of the hippie culture was a small part. It started East and moved West.
Don't believe everything you see on TV. Owsley was in Berkely. He's still alive and kicking too: http://thebear.org
We were all considered 'hippies' back then.
What we did do is build the new Republican party
Don't worry, nobody's gonna mistake you for a hippie.
Peace. | |
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| are you glad the hippies have gone?
Posted: 6/22/2007 5:47:12 PM | how do you feel about ... 'woodstock' generation... who explored alternative lifestyles... really believed... real, concrete change for the better in society
Some of our finest, most dedicated social service, environmental and humanitarian entities are staffed by those who moderated their once youthful and extreme beliefs into knowledgeable and cooperative forms. I worked with a group that included educated “hippies” who work around the country finding economical ways for low income rural communities to resolve contaminated water issues. Lazy? I think not! Additionally, the same agency built solar, cordwood and inground homes 20 years before global warming was front page news. Youth and associated ideals often mature together over time. Do not classify all under one umbrella. Like any group, diversity exists - some with great results, others not so great. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2007 6:09:41 PM | Brother Rick was a Hippie.... a radical, he wasn't actually building bombs or running safe houses, but he did help collect money for those who did... he took to spelling it " AMERIKKA" with a swastika, indicating he thought our government was fascist... he took many drugs that never did get names... and today hes a wreck, at 55.... Brother Gary didn't quite make the street scene, though he was a student activist at Kansas University during its "best" years on the student circuit. He avoided most of the obvious self-destructive behaviours, ... today he's one of the people who help take care of Rick, but from a distance, no ennabling in this family.
So here we have 2 different people who lived the sixties on and off campus. Remarkable how widely the resulting people vary, even only 2 years apart and from the same family. I'm not sure if our experience helps any, except to say that generalizations, generally, are highly innacurate. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2007 6:37:37 PM | The hippies haven't gone, nor will they. Take a closer look. See those simple people over there who grow their own vegetable without toxic chemicals? The ones who live as self suffeciently as their circumstance allows? Even make their own soap . They may be veg. heads claiming something unfathamable to you.....that they couldn't bear to eat a brother or sister. Perhaps they do a little weaving, mommie la may sew the wardrobe, she shows her children bugs, snakes, birds, and clouds rather than TV. They may weave baskets or spin wool or perhaps they are politically involved. They could be Mr. and Mrs. Plain, next door. They well may be the most involved parents in your neighborhood. They no doubt suppliment their children's education to include much more than available in the school system. They can fix a tractor, plant, tend and harvest a crop, find everything edible in the area.....blah, blah, blah. They well could be a rocket scientist, but in their souls, they are hippies. Because they try to tred lightly upon the earth.
Or were you talking about slakers? Party animals? Who were we talking about? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2007 6:42:48 PM | I'm STILL one.  ( Actually a baldippy...I guess)
I'm goin' to be waving my freak flag high 'till I die. Music that mattered, political discussions, actually "coming together" .....
It's interesting how much the society has adopted, first proposed by that generation.
Woman's rights , ethnic rights, ecology....
Those things were not that popular then, and now they are part of most people's basic ideals.
Gna-Gna  | |
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Posted: 6/22/2007 7:11:29 PM | Hah! The hippies have all gone? When the hell did this happen? And why are all those hemp shops still in business if that were the case? I suppose next you're gonna tell me there's no more groovy joints where the hep cats can get a cup a joe and listen to sixties poetry....SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!!  | |
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Posted: 6/23/2007 3:48:43 PM | It's interesting how much the society has adopted, first proposed by that generation.
Woman's rights , ethnic rights, ecology....
Those things were not that popular then, and now they are part of most people's basic ideals.
I know and now look where we are as a society lol
By the way nothing wrong with those things, Ethnic rights, womens rights ect are all good.
Hypies are still around in a variety of areas and situations.
I personally like those hypies who have quit being hypies or retired of being a hypie and they have become successful parents, caring compassionate people who care for OTHERS also, who are realistic, sober more less, care about hygien , think smart, talk normal modern standard English and they act norm
ally and not act silly/shallow. Whome you can look up to as role models and positive examples for younger people (because trust me, we all need it, I need it) people you can talk to and who use reason and not some make beleive spiritual gaga lol. People whome you can look to when you are 26 years old and say "thank you mame for teaching me the principles of life and how I should conduct myself and how I should treat others and to treat them with dignity and compassion and to try to be the best you can be and always think positive"
Or
"Sir...I just want to say thanks for helping me grow up as a kid, you helped me get through some hard times and you taught me how to behave, how to make goals for myself and seek to fulfill them, you taught me how to approach girls when i was still very much reluctant and shy, and you helped me with tha dreaded math class too...I just wanted to say to you thanks"
Those kinds of people are good people. Who may have been "hypie" at one time, but they knew that they had a life beyond that false delusional stuff and they turned out to make a big difference in myriads of young peoples (myself included) lives.
To all YOU people, I say THANK YOU!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/23/2007 5:31:37 PM | Well i've totally regressed since my last post concerning hippies I'm now in the green party I'm no longer a repubie can, I'm inhaling like a maddog right now.. I still believe in frontier justice though of course without a shadow of a doubt.. As our so called justice system isn't fair to everyone, only to their own the wealthy, the famous, etc, etc, Turn on Drop out. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2007 9:43:38 AM | Actually the drug portion is what made the hippie culture.
Proof by assertion?
Uh-uh.
Proof by everyday examples (sadly).
Next time you bemoan the fact that 'chivalry' is dead - blame the 60's.
Next time you wonder why women want to be men, yet be treated like 'princesses '(without knowing, however, what a real princess actually is), blame the 60's.
Next time you see a girl with a guy she'd normally never even spit on, just because he's got dope, blame the 60's.
Next time you're unhappy with your kid who can't learn anything because of outcome based 'education', blame the 60's.
Next time you turn on the TV, and there's psychedelic balloons with faces ('Poobah') floating around, claiming to be a little kids' show, blame the 60's.
Next time you see a sit-com or similar junk on TV, following the modelof Father Knows Jack, blame the 60's.
The beat goes on, ad nauseam.....man....... | |
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rsx11s
| | Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 63 | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 3:21:12 AM | | Hippies aren't gone. There's still lots of them out there, still fighting the man. Some of them gave into the man though , and are family people, preparing for grandchildren and retirement from the job that they got, when they realized that they couldn't afford to live decently anymore. Of course I'm talking about hardcore extremist hippies, because a lot of the hippies, were just people of peace and loving, and had jobs anyways. If they were punks, I guess they'd be called poseurs, but I really don't see how having a job, makes you any less passionate about a cause. | |
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Tramp
| | Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 66 | |
| are you glad the hippies have gone?
Posted: 9/6/2007 5:24:51 AM | | Unconventional persons, that's what they are, will always be around; being on a dating site, does not make you one. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 9:01:15 AM | My dad and uncle are hippies. I grew up on Dr. Hook music and okay it took me a really long time to know those were not cigs they were rolling. As I got older it was hidden. Culture changed and my mother got a job with the FBI. Dad still had his stash and family reunions were wild!!
You cannot relate drugs to "hippies" because I have seen the white powder on the conference tables at laws offices but that is stereotyping.
You cannot relate the non tax payers with hippies because I grew up in a wealth neighborhood with the white picket fence and my parents still married after 40 some years. (so much for the free sex)
Hippies are children of the 70s like children of today are "Goth or Scene or Emo"
My teens keep me hip on all this stuff. | |
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yna6
| | Joined: 1/21/2007
Msg: 68 | |
| are you glad the hippies have gone?
Posted: 9/6/2007 11:28:54 AM | Hippies did a lot of things....worked their butts off protesting a war they felt American had no business being in, making signs, holding sit-ins, a lot of organization and time went into those things. A lot of people are doing much the same thing today!
Back then though, the kids took the chance of having their brains beat in by over-zealous police and National guards. Peaceful protests were broken up with teargas, clubs and shields, rubber bullets, and, in at least on sad case, live ammunition. Seemed odd to know a gov't was shooting its own population for having a different opinion towards a war. Killing our own kids today for speaking out against the war would be almost unthnkiable...but it did happen back then.
Sliding through college on courses that were watered down, or easy courses (like how to make better candles!) kept some out of the service. Heading to Canada did it for others. Some banded together and built "grow-op" farms...trying to make it on their own, eating organic foods, and entertaining themselves with music, dance, sex and recreational drugs they grew themselves (though not always). Living together, working together, trying to make things better....sounds good.
Many opened small businesses. Some grew...others did not. New ideas for cinema were opened up, music, culture spread quickly, world wide.
Hippies aren't gone....many just forgot their "ideals" because real life smacked them in the head too often. But whole issue of "ideals" made a lot of changes possible. "Save the Whale" campaigns, keeping some of the old growth forests protected, freedom of speech, a lot of work, effort and trouble was gone through by these "hippies". Een the idea of "superconcerts" was ignited...Woodstock was never meant to be what it turned out to be...but it turned into a cultural icon that is still held up today as the benchmark of a generation of musicians. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 5:07:47 PM | Those people were into drugs, sex and rock-n-roll. They never really went away. Instead they became a powerful political lobby called Democrats and force anyone who isn't into drugs, sex perversion or communism to be burned at the stake. Their glorious leader is the ACLU. They are now running America. And destroying it.
I just don't understand:
If you smoke pot GOOD, if you smoke cigarettes BAD.
Helping illegals take jobs over from Americans GOOD, working Americans BAD.
Wanting to put foreigners first GOOD, wanting to put Americans first RACIST.
Wanting a socialist welfare state GOOD, robbing from the rich and giving to the poor GOOD, giving billions of dollars to Africa for AIDS GOOD, survival of the fittest BAD.
Condemnation and barring free speech GOOD, free speech BAD (and now illegal).
Setting the U.S. flag on fire GOOD, attending Memorial Day and Veteran's Day tributes BAD.
The hippies never left us, they are the most controlling miserable fascist nightmare of Orwellian proportions can ever create. All that pot smoking induced schizophrenia and pill-popping prescribed by their therapists at our expense. Set them on fire or give them a one-way ticket to Amsterdam or France. I hate hippies. There is nothing nice about them. And how did singing folk songs all f*cked up on drugs help America be a greater nation? It didn't. Or can we just divide America in half please? Illegals and communists on one side, hardworking Americans on the other.
Boy I really did it. Now I'm going to get hate mail from all the people who take recreational drugs. Bring it on, baby. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 5:59:42 PM | I don't think wanting to change things for the better should ever die. The progressive movement's struggle to improve the quality of life for Americans is vital, and whether we wear alligator shirts (me), or tie die shirts (hippie style), we progressives should band together to make sure that the job of moving America forward gets done.
The drug and free love aspect was the downside to the hippie phenomenon, however. Both are unhealthy and should be discouraged.
The above poster sounds like a self centered person who only cares about himself, and no one else. This kind of mentality is what should go, not the ACLU or progressive causes.
Improving health care for all Americans is a positive thing that is both a social program and a pro business action. Having universal health care would help businesses run more smoothly rather than having to deal with the aggravation of finding suitable insurance for the employees. Too many conservatives are self centered and whine about paying taxes. They are useless as far as I am concerned. The hippies actually care about someone other than themselves, and my hat's off to them.
After all there's nothing like good old classic rock 'n' roll!! | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 7:00:48 PM |
Those people were into drugs, sex and rock-n-roll. They never really went away. Instead they became a powerful political lobby called Democrats and force anyone who isn't into drugs, sex perversion or communism to be burned at the stake. Their glorious leader is the ACLU. They are now running America. And destroying it.
Even the hippies that took that "bad" brown acid at Woodstock would never be that brain damaged..... 
Uh, to get back to the, uh, the warning that I've received you may take it with how many however many grains of salt you wish, that the brown acid that is circulating around us is not specifically too good. Uh, it's suggested that you do stay away from that, course it's your own trip, so be my guest, but, uh, please be advised that there is a warning on that one ok? - Woodstock stage announcement
1961-1963 - John F. Kennedy
1963-1969 -Lyndon B. Johnson
1969-1974-Richard M. Nixon
1974-1977 Gerald R. Ford
1977-1981 -Jimmy Carter
1981-1989- Ronald Reagan
1989-1993- George Bush
1993-2001 -Bill Clinton
2001-2007 George Bush Jr.
Since 1961, you've had nine Presidents. Four Democrats, Five Republicans.
In the last twenty six years, only eight years of Democratic rule ( with many of his years in office facing a Republican majority in the Congress).
The last six ?
100 percent Republican, with many of those years featuring a Republican majority in Congress.
Do you want me to honestly believe that the Democrats are "running" your country ? | |
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Posted: 9/6/2007 7:20:42 PM | I am an original hippy and in my heart I will always be one, no matter how short my hair gets!!
Love and peace...
Oldsoul... | |
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Alzena
| | Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 74 | |
| are you glad the hippies have gone?
Posted: 9/6/2007 8:46:55 PM | [This will likely result in a civil war. Not between areas on a map, but between classes. The have's and the have not's. The way of life and standard of living we are accustomed to today dwindles by a thin, fraying thread, that everyone seems to be ignoring, and when someone tries to point it out, they get their hand slapped and told "dont touch that, ever"].
I wasn't ahippie, I bought in the lies of the Protestant work ethic and really thought that working hard would help one get a head. When that didn't work I bought into lie that and education was the way to get ahead...
So, call me a neohippie, I took a job with social consciouness. I beleived lies that others really wanted to help people... but now I livce clouser phyivcally and in counsiousness of those I tried to help...
i am disallusioned... I find that people who scream the loudest about religion of have more revceranc e for the green back and those in power are totally addicted to power. ..
My father studied history his whole life. I didn't believe him when he predicited his vchildren would live to see a civcil war. I do know that I am no longer able to live the live the life style I grew up with. And that our local governement repsonds differently to differnt income brackets.
Did you know that goverment is teaching that it is criminal thinking to beleivce that judges, layers and police are arrested and convcicted less frequently for the same crimes? I guss that makes the Dalai Lama a criminal thinker...LOL If you get a chance to see it, 10 questions for the Dalai Lama is a must for all neohippies.... | |
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Alzena
| | Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 75 | |
| are you glad the hippies have gone?
Posted: 9/6/2007 9:13:37 PM | {Woodstock was never meant to be what it turned out to be...but it turned into a cultural icon that is still held up today as the benchmark of a generation of musicians. }
I am with you. The values some had in the 60's and 70's did make a difference. Not all the activists were hippies.. most were neohippies... high school and college kids that that saw that their parents weren't that happy with the good ole American dream... And realized that once you bought into it you really had sold your soul to the bank.
Oh yea, I was a fringe yuppie too... well, now I have made my life trying to make other's life better. Bavck to neohippie...LOL I don't agree that the hippies were the cause of the drug problems today. The pot back them was only 2% thc... Govcerment speaks our of both sides of their face. They do little to prevcent the drugs from comming in and them make money off those who get addicted. There is a different set of rules for those fame and money (Bush's daughter got what for a sentence for DUI?) Now, if this same person was poor, of color or had mental health problems we could consider thaey would still be invcarcerated. Maybe that's why lady justice wears a blindfold.
While sitting under my desk with the air raid seriens going off they tried to teach us that every child in American had an equil chance to grow up and become President? Some of us saw the lie, and worked hard to bring it closer to the truth. But, statistic in Indiana say it will still be another 25 years before women make equil pay. African countries have women Presidents befor America does...
We care more about the dogs in the dogs pound that we do are mentally ill, who are filling our prisons...
Yup, some hippies are holding jobs and wearing suits... but unlike the steotype, we are not doing drugs and living in the streets. | |
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