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Posted: 9/14/2007 6:17:47 AM | He can use the nasa helping to cure cancer thing here is a small list of what nasa has done.
Computer Technology - NASA Spinoffs
GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM - Computer-based scheduling system that uses artificial intelligence to manage thousands of overlapping activities involved in launch preparations of NASA's Space Shuttles. The NASA technology was licensed to a new company which developed commercial applications that provide real-time planning and optimization of manufacturing operations, integrated supply chains, and customer orders.uu
SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING - NASA initiative led to the Memory Short Stack, a three-dimensional semiconductor package in which dozens of integrated circuits are stacked one atop another to form a cube, offering faster computer processing speeds, higher levels of integration, lower power requirements than conventional chip sets, and dramatic reduction in the size and weight of memory-intensive systems, such as medical imaging devices.
STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS - This NASA program, originally created for spacecraft design, has been employed in a broad array of non-aerospace applications, such as the automobile industry, manufacture of machine tools, and hardware designs.
WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER (Win Vn) - Software program developed to support payload technical documentation at Kennedy Space Center, allowing the exchange of technical information among a large group of users. WinVn is an enabling technology product that provides countless people with Internet access otherwise beyond their grasp, and it was optimized for organizations that have direct Internet access.
AIR QUALITY MONITOR - Utilizing a NASA-developed, advanced analytical technique software package, an air quality monitor system was created, capable of separating the various gases in bulk smokestack exhaust streams and determining the amount of individual gases present within the stream for compliance with smokestack emission standards.
VIRTUAL REALITY - NASA-developed research allows a user, with assistance from advanced technology devices, to figuratively project oneself into a computer-generated environment, matching the user's head motion, and, when coupled with a stereo viewing device and appropriate software, creates a telepresence experience.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, and Design Graphics.
Consumer/Home/Recreation - NASA Spinoffs
ENRICHED BABY FOOD - A microalgae-based, vegetable-like oil called Formulaid developed from NASA-sponsored research on long duration space travel, contains two essential fatty acids found in human milk but not in most baby formulas, believed to be important for infants' mental and visual development.
WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM - NASA-developed municipal-size water treatment system for developing nations, called the Regenerable Biocide Delivery Unit, uses iodine rather than chlorine to kill bacteria.
SCRATCH-RESISTANT LENSES - A modified version of a dual ion beam bonding process developed by NASA involves coating the lenses with a film of diamond-like carbon that not only provides scratch resistance, but also decreases surface friction, reducing water spots.
POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to sterilize water on long-duration spacecraft applied to swimming pool purification led to a system that uses two silver-copper alloy electrodes that generate silver and copper ions when an electric current passes through them to kill bacteria and algae without chemicals.
RIBBED SWIMSUIT - NASA-developed riblets applied to competition swimsuits resulted in flume testing of 10 to 15 percent faster speeds than any other world class swim-suit due to the small, barely visible grooves that reduce friction and aerodynamic drag by modifying the turbulent airflow next to the skin.
GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS - A recently designed golf ball, which has 500 dimples arranged in a pattern of 60 spherical triangles, employs NASA aerodynamics technology to create a more symmetrical ball surface, sustaining initial velocity longer and producing a more stable ball flight for better accuracy and distance.
PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS - Based on a NASA-inspired space cooling system employing thermoelectric technology, the portable cooler/warmer plugs into the cigarette lighters of autos, recreational vehicles, boats, or motel outlets. Utilizes one or two miniaturized modules delivering the cooling power of a 10-pound block of ice and the heating power of up to 125 degrees Fahrenheit.
SPORTS TRAINING - Space-developed cardio-muscular conditioner helps athletes increase muscular strength and cardiovascular fitness through kinetic exercise.
ATHLETIC SHOES - Moon Boot material encapsulated in running shoe midsoles improve shock absorption and provides superior stability and motion control.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, and quartz crystal timing equipment.
Environmental and Resource Management - NASA Spinoffs
MICROSPHERES - The first commercial products manufactured in orbit are tiny microspheres whose precise dimensions permit their use as reference standards for extremely accurate calibration of instruments in research and industrial laboratories. They are sold for applications in environmental control, medical research, and manufacturing.
SOLAR ENERGY - NASA-pioneered photovoltaic power system for spacecraft applications was applied to programs to expand terrestrial applications as a viable alternative energy source in areas where no conventional power source exists.
WEATHER FORECASTING AID - Space Shuttle environmental control technology led to the development of the Barorator which continuously measures the atmospheric pressure and calculates the instantaneous rate of change.
FOREST MANAGEMENT - A NASA-initiated satellite scanning system monitors and maps forestation by detecting radiation reflected and emitted from trees.
SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL - NASA development of an instrument for use in space life support research led to commercial development of a system to monitor an industrial process stream to assure that the effluent water's pH level is in compliance with environmental regulations.
WIND MONITOR - Development of Jimsphere wind measurement balloon for space launches allows for making high resolution measurements of the wind profile for meteorological studies and predictions.
TELEMETRY SYSTEMS - A spinoff company formed to commercialize NASA high-data-rate telemetry technology, manufactures a high-speed processing system for commercial communications applications.
PLANT RESEARCH - NASA research on future moon and Mars bases is investigating using plants for food, oxygen, and water to reduce the need for outside supplies. This research utilizes Hydroponics (liquid nutrient solutions) instead of soil to support plant growth and finds applications for vegetable production on Earth.
FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL - Materials include chemically-treated fabric for sheets, uniforms for hazardous material handlers, crew's clothing, furniture, interior walls of submersibles and auto racer and refueler suits.
RADIATION INSULATION - Aluminized polymer film is highly effective radiation barrier for both manned and unmanned spacecraft. Variations of this space-devised material are also used as an energy conservation technique for homes and offices. The materials are placed between wall studs and exterior facing before siding or between roof support and roof sheathing. The radiant barrier blocks 95% of radiant energy. Successful retrofit installations include schools and shrink wrap ovens.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, and air purification.
Health and Medicine - NASA Spinoffs
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DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM - The LORAD Stereo Guide Breast Biopsy system incorporates advanced Charge Coupled Devices (CCDs) as part of a digital camera system. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently. Known as stereotactic large-core needle biopsy, this nonsurgical system developed with Space Telescope Technology is less traumatic and greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.
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BREAST CANCER DETECTION - A solar cell sensor is positioned directly beneath x-ray film, and determines exactly when film has received sufficient radiation and has been exposed to optimum density. Associated electronic equipment then sends a signal to cut off the x-ray source. Reduction of mammography x-ray exposure reduces radiation hazard and doubles the number of patient exams per machine.
LASER ANGIOPLASTY - Laser angioplasty with a "cool" type of laser, caller an excimer laser, does not damage blood vessel walls and offers precise non-surgical cleanings of clogged arteries with extraordinary precision and fewer complications than in balloon angioplasty.
ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT - Advanced instrument using NASA ultrasound technology enables immediate assessment of burn damage depth, improving patient treatment, and may save lives in serious burn cases.
HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR - Employing NASA satellite technology, the device is implanted in the body to help patient control chronic pain and involuntary motion disorders through electrical stimulation of targeted nerve centers or particular areas of the brain.
COOL SUIT - Custom-made suit derived from space suits circulates coolant through tubes to lower patient's body/ temperature, producing dramatic improvement of symptoms of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, spina bifida and other conditions.
PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER - Incorporating multiple NASA technologies, the system consists of the implant and a physician's computer console containing the programming and a data printer. Communicates through wireless telemetry signals.
OCULAR SCREENING - NASA image processing techniques are used to detect eye problems in very young children. An electronic flash from a 35-millimeter camera sends light into the child's eyes, and a photorefractor analyzes the retinal reflexes, producing an image of each eye.
AUTOMATED URINALYSIS - NASA fluid dynamics studies helped development of system that automatically extracts and transfers sediment from urine sample to an analyzer microscope, replacing the manual centrifuge method.
MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER - Astronaut-monitoring technology used to develop system to monitor operating rooms for analysis of anesthetic gasses and measurement of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen concentrations to assure proper breathing environment for surgery patients.
VOICE-CONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR - NASA teleoperator and robot technology used to develop chair and manipulator that respond to 35 one-word voice commands utilizing a minicomputer to help patient perform daily tasks, like picking up packages, opening doors, and turning on appliances.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.
Industrial Productivity/Manufacturing Technology - NASA Spinoffs
MAGNETIC LIQUIDS - Based on the NASA-developed ferrofluid concept involving synthetic fluids that can be positioned and controlled by magnetic force, the ferrofluidic seal was initially applied in a zero-leakage, nonwearing seal for the rotating shaft of a system used to make semiconductor chips, solving a persistent problem‹contamination due to leaking seals.
WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM - Laser-based automated welder for industrial use incorporates a laser sensor system originally designed for Space Shuttle External Tank to track the seam where two pieces of metal are to be joined, measures gaps and minute misfits, and automatically corrects the welding torch distance and height.
MICROLASERS - Based on a concept for optical communications over interplanetary distances, microlasers were developed for the commercial market to transmit communication signals and to drill, cut, or melt materials.
MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM - Bearings developed from Space Shuttle designs support moving machinery without physical contact, permitting motion without friction or wear, and are now used in electric power generation, petroleum refining, machine tool operation, and natural gas pipelines.
ENGINE LUBRICANT - A NASA-developed plasma-sprayed coating is used to coat valves in a new, ten-inch-long, four-cylinder rotary engine, eliminating the need for lubricating the rotorcam, which has no crankshaft, flywheel, distributor, or water pump.
INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING - Known as Interactive Multimedia Training (IMT), originally developed to train astronauts and space operations personnel, now utilized by the commercial sector to train new employees and upgrade worker skills, using a computer system that engages all the senses, including text, video, animation, voice, sounds, and music.
HIGH-PRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING - Technology developed for preparing Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters first evolved into the U.S. Air Force's Large Aircraft Robotic Paint Stripping (LARPS) system, and now used in the commercial airline industry, where the waterjet processing reduces coating removal time by 90 percent, using only water at ultra-high pressures up to 55,000 psi.
ADVANCED WELDING TORCH - Based on the Variable Polarity Plasma Arc welding technology, a handheld torch originally developed for joining light alloys used in NASA's External Tank, is now used by major appliance manufacturers for sheet metal welding.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, and engine design.
Public Safety - NASA Spinoffs
RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR - NASA technology has made commercially available new, inexpensive, conveniently carried device for protection of people exposed to potentially dangerous levels of microwave radiation. Weighing only 4 ounces and about the size of a cigarette pack, it can be carried in a shirt pocket or clipped to a belt. Unit sounds an audible alarm when microwave radiation reaches a preset level.
EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT - Remotely-operated robot reduces human injury levels by performing hazardous tasks that would otherwise be handled by humans.
PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM - Pen-sized ultrasonic transmitter used by prison guards, teachers, the elderly, and disabled to call for help is based on space telemetry technology. Pen transmits a silent signal to receiver that will display the exact location of the emergency.
EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS - Lightweight cutters for freeing accident victims from wreckage developed using NASA pyrotechnic technology.
FIREMAN'S AIR TANKS - Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks have been developed. New back-pack system weighs only 20 lbs. for 30 minute air supply, 13 lbs. less than conventional firefighting tanks. They are pressurized at 4,500 psia (twice current tanks). A warning device tells the fireman when he or she is running out of air.
PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM - Lightning detector gives 30-minute warning to golfers, boaters, homeowners, business owners, and private pilots.
SELF-RIGHTING LIFE RAFT - Developed for the Apollo program, fully inflates in 12 seconds and protects lives during extremely adverse weather conditions with self-righting and gravity compensation features.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands.
Transportation - NASA Spinoffs
STUDLESS WINTER TIRES - Viking Lander parachute shroud material is adapted and used to manufacture radial tires, increasing the tire material's chainlike molecular structure to five times the strength of steel should increase tread life by 10,000 miles.
BETTER BRAKES - New, high-temperature composite space materials provide for better brake linings. Applications includes trucks, industrial equipment and passenger cars.
TOLLBOOTH PURIFICATION - A laminar airflow technique used in NASA clean rooms for contamination-free assembly of space equipment is used at tollbooths on bridges and turnpikes to decrease the toll collector's inhalation of exhaust fumes.
WEIGHT SAVING TECHNOLOGY - NASA research on composite materials is used to achieve a 30-percent weight reduction in a twin-turbine helicopter, resulting in a substantial increase in aircraft performance.
IMPROVED AIRCRAFT ENGINE - Multiple NASA developed technological advancements resulted in a cleaner, quieter, more economical commercial aircraft engine known as the high bypass turbofan, featuring a 10-percent reduction in fuel consumption, lower noise levels, and emission reductions of oxides of nitrogen, carbon monoxide, and unburned hydrocarbons.
ADVANCED LUBRICANTS - An environmental-friendly lubricant designed to support the Space Shuttle Mobile Launcher Platform led to the development of three commercial lubricants for railroad track maintenance, for electric power company corrosion prevention, and as a hydraulic fluid with an oxidation life of 10,000 hours.
ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM - The Flywheel Energy Storage system, derived from two NASA-sponsored energy storage studies, is a chemical-free, mechanical battery that harnesses the energy of a rapidly spinning wheel and stores it as electricity with 50 times the capacity of a lead-acid battery, very useful for electric vehicles.
NEW WING DESIGN FOR CORPORATE JETS - NASA-developed computer programs resulted in an advanced, lighter, more aerodynamically-efficient new wing for Gulfstream business aircraft.
AIDS TO SCHOOL BUS DESIGN - Manufacturer uses three separate NASA-developed technologies originally developed for aviation and space use in their design and testing of a new school bus chassis. These technologies are a structural analysis computer program infrared stress measurement system, and a ride quality meter system.
Other spinoffs in this area include: Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/14/2007 3:19:11 PM | | Civire Excellent Post, it's hard to debate facts like that when you have an agenda that doesn't agree or you have your technology head stuck in the sand. | |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 5:03:48 PM | Wow, all of that for a half trillion dollars. And to think, none of it would have been possible without shooting things off into space!
A link to NASA Tech Briefs would have been shorter and much more comprehensive. | |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 7:05:30 PM | All that and MORE. That was the short list!
Wonderful post.
Anyways, the japanese have sent a new satellite to the moon. It will stay in orbit there and send two smaller probes on polar orbits, for about the next year. They are really thinking about how to colonize, and are gearing up towards that end. The rest of the world is gonna sit back and watch. Sure, they were delayed 10 years in this project...but still got it done! Will north america be sucking the hind tit again? Probably, unless they start getting their sh*t together and start pouring more money into this program, rather than worrying if some camel jockey is gonna sell oil at 50 bucks a barrel or 75. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 11:08:44 PM | Now lets imagin that all that Civire listed had been inventive WITHOUT the aid of a who knows how expensive program that actually has not did anything for in regards to living on another planet.
We do not have the knowhow of how to populate a planet that will not produce that one need element we need to exist --- air. We could fly in water and food and whatever else. Machines could repurify the water and sewage for continual use. We cannot fly in a steady supply of air. And if something were to happen to the electricity that might produce the air, people will die very fast. That is why we have not populated the closest piece of rock to us...the moon.
If the science of space exploration had been kept to telescopes, radar dishes, satellites, the space station only and shuttles to take care of the satellites and space station, how much more do you think we would have saved in the bank for other problems like agriculture, research for dieases, etc.?
I am not against space exploration that is done from earth and our atmosphere. But the fact remains that anything we do beyond our back yard, it is exploration and nothing else, except to appreciate what it is we have discovered that we cannot and will not ever be a part of. We might use it as an educational tool to know something new but that "something new" just cost us multi-billions to trillons and who knows how much more. How far do you think the research for cancer and aids would have gotten if they were given the grants each year that we give to 'outter space' exploration dealing with Mars only? | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 11:28:51 PM | | it is necessary. once we destroy this beautiful planet there are not alot of options left, so we need to find somewhere else to destroy. sitting here doing nothing will do no good, now all we need to do is figure out how to go the speed of light and we should have no problem | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:44:19 AM | | Lots of exaggeration all around. The OP seemed to only see entertainment as the value. Others, largely because of a bureaucracy protecting itself, see lots of spinoff technology, much of which actually comes from military work declassified for NASA. It may be that Helium 3 could solve the energy issues facing mankind and it is probably available to be mined on the moon. There is no Helium 3 on earth because of its atmosphere. An electromagnetic launcher on the moon would enable inexpensive return launches but building the infrastructure will take $. I really don't see the US doing it anymore nor even taking the lead. The "entertainment" value of space is pretty well spent and the country no longer values technical skills. The tax base of the country can only support so much and there are so many hands in the till now that there is not much left. To buy votes, lawyer politicians are paying people to be poor to keep themselves in office while the technical expertise to build high tech is being systematically moved off shore. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 12:04:31 PM | | Maybe some of you don't see this in yourselves, honestly some sound just like those kooks hundreds of years ago that claimed wasting money to prove the earth was round was wasteful and they knew a better why to spend it, they always do no matter what century they live in. One funny thing about technology, it takes people who are interested in this, interested in that, as a collective to achieve what we have with NASA. You'll never get results like that telling bright minds YOU think they should spend their time to study what YOU want them to. Want to know ho to prove this Ask the Russians. Bright minds will always have dreams and ideas they'll want to solve and thank goodness you don't have control over them. I thank everyone who has ever been a part of the collective of knowledge we know as NASA, for my life has been enriched by it, saved by it, and I like many dream of what's next. What one man or woman dreams other men and women make real. | |
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| Yes, so how do we keep going?
Posted: 9/17/2007 1:22:33 PM | The problem now is lack of competition. For all the good that has (and could) come out of space exploration, without someone to beat to the finish line and prove Americans are best, we'll just sit on our throne and do nothing.
People who want to be king work much harder than the guy who already has the crown.
What we need is for China to pull the greatest publicity scam of all time and really convince the world they are on the way to Mars. Since perception is reality, it would most likely be pretty easy through enough press releases and mocked-up technology for them to convince everyone that they were really going to do it.
Only THEN would we complacent Americans get off our lazy asses and say "oh, so you think you're going to be first to Mars, do you?"
Then we'd get moving.
Come on, Chinese... fake it! | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 1:57:42 PM | | Mojo Ecellent post I agree 100%. We either need the Chinese as competitors or a good dose of alien invasion, either one would work wonder wonders on the American Sleeping Giant, although I doubt that latter is going to happen any time soon. | |
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| Yes, so how do we keep going?
Posted: 9/17/2007 2:32:05 PM | Race to where? If you had not noticed, we do not even try to compete with China. Our leaders sold our space vehicle navigation technology to China over a decade ago and our country's technology skills are now farmed out to China and India. Our engineering and science colleges have more foreign nationals than Americans. The real income for engineers and scientists has gone down since Apollo 11 while lawyering has become the career of choice. Even medicine has become unpopular due to high insurance costs again a result of too many lawyers. People go to where the money is and it is no longer in technology. We fret over our international standing trying to fight for human rights while the rest of the world sees us as sell-outs. I am very much in technology with patents and decades of technical innovations under my belt with many more inventions I would like to bring out but in my search for funding, it has been made very clear that technology is not what counts. Investors REQUIRE business plans with overseas product development and manufacturing with a cadre of lawyers to bend the law and keep the corporate leaders out of jail. The name of the game is service economy, whatever that means. Want fries with that?
As I mentioned earlier, it would appear the moon could be colonized to solve Earth's energy problems. China is the fastest growing consumer of energy and most likely plans to claim ownership of the moon by colonizing it and arming those colonies. Gee, one might see a future looking a little bleak but then one would have to have a bigger picture of technology than what Hollywood deals out. Note the most popular programs are about lawyers, over 80% of congress are lawyers and most presidential candidates are lawyers. All of them took an oath to put aside their moral judgement in favor of a lawyer's code of ethics that sells out to the highest bidder. By the way, my patents have made lawyers millions and me nothing. That is the reward for technology in this country. | |
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| Yes, so how do we keep going?
Posted: 9/17/2007 5:27:48 PM | Ten billion for the whole Apollo program. Works out to about 5 cents a day for every American at that time. Pretty damned cheap, it seems to me. A lot of charities are asking for the price of a cup of coffee today...what would NASA be able to do with that kind of funding today?
Some tool mentioned not having air out there. Duh! It can be made. Water...hydrogen and oxygen, break it down...sheesh...some people don't have a clue! Run CO2 through limewater and oxygen is released....(very simplified here) which allows subs to stay under for months at a time!
We have a lot of the technology to actually habitate the moon now...but there are other issues to consider. Psychological ramifications, bone loss because calcium isn't being forced into the bone structure due to lack of gravity. Such things need be figured out first. The Russians have been doing some good solid work in all those areas. Nothing spectacular, but still good steady work. Japan is getting in on it. China. Why would these places even consider space? Because it IS worth it...not only down for the spin-offs and applications here...but for the future.
As far as the dreams, hope, and wonder of it all....still a lot of people following the space news. More every year.
Just for fun, I dug out a copy of Life magazine...1969...you can guess which month. It kind of brought tears to my eyes...so I carefully packed it away.....promising myself "Someday...." | |
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/17/2007 5:45:16 PM | ("but Mankind has never been farther than the moon").
Ahhhh, but did they actually go though?.....apparantly it's all just one big conspiricy and you have to admit the evidence is pretty damning!!! I don't think it's actually possible to go to the moon as apparantly there is a huge radioactive band around earth that cannot be crossed by humans. So if that is true how is it even possible to explore space or build on new planets?....it's edicational but not the best way to spend money! Of course they'd never have found that out if they'd never explored in the first place so the information does come in pretty handy! | |
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/17/2007 8:05:48 PM | | If I'm not mistaken your speaking of the Magnetosphere which is below the current space station. On a recent show I saw some of the Capricorn One theorist say this very same thing. Then they interviewed the man who discovered it and he debunked anyone saying this belt would prevent man from crossing. I have seen many retired astronauts asked this question and everyone was absolutely perplexed at how someone could be caught up in such a bizarre conspiracy theory. If you feel man can't make materials to prevent radiation I suggest you do some google research and see what materials have long been invented that keep out astronauts safe in space. Do you realize the idea of we never went to the moon comes from a corny movie made many years ago called Capricorn One. Years later some young folks watched it and started bloging it was true we never went. Oh the power of the internet to confabulate the minds of many. Maybe someone with far more experience than I can shed some Fact on this idea that Man can't go beyond the radiation belt. | |
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/17/2007 9:31:15 PM | All exploration is absolutely necessary... because we don't know what we don't know. And of all the things to discover in the Universe that is the largest and most fruitful area to look.
The sad thing is, that even in this thread, so few people really know what that means. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 9:50:14 PM | "Ahhhh, but did they actually go though?.....apparantly it's all just one big conspiricy and you have to admit the evidence is pretty damning!!! "
One last time: REMOVE THE TINFOIL HAT FROM YOUR HEAD! RETURN TO THE MOTHER-SHIP! NOW!!!
Really, you'd think that, by now, everyone would have gotten over that "fake moon landing" nonsense!! What next? Did Columbus really travel to the 'New World' or are we all just figments of someone's conspiracy theory?
It certainly is sad to see how one's mind can turn to mush when one doesn't take the trouble to actually READ anything other than "The National Enquirer." | |
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/17/2007 10:09:52 PM | this is in reply to the original post
well, if the only reason the space program was needed in the first place was so your dad and his buddies could get drunk and watch the funny little space man fly up in the sky, im a swiss cheese bagel.
Yes, its at least as important as screwwing up civilization in the middle east. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:09:27 PM |
Ahhhh, but did they actually go though?.....apparantly it's all just one big conspiricy...
It's hard to discuss conspiracies with people who can't even spell it. | |
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| Is space exploration still necessary??
Posted: 9/18/2007 4:22:54 PM | ^^^^Sorry, didn't know this was an English exam, i'll get my dictionary out next time!
The point is, if the CONSIRACY is false, why have we never been back to the moon 30 years on when we have so much greater technology and we understand much more about space?! And the movie your speaking of was actually made BEFORE the space landing and if you look at the stills it is SCARILY similar. Not just that, the flag is blowing when there is no air in space! There is no crater hole from the jet engines even though they had flames shooting out of them at force, yet the shuttle legs have left craters! 2 pictures alleged to be taken 2.5 miles apart from each other are IDENTICAL when superimposed over one another. There is dust on the moon yet no dust particles have been blown on the shuttle! Videos slowed down show the spacemen are not floating but simply walking. Shadows are facing in different directions even though they should all be facing in the same direction because the only source of light up there is from the sun. The list goes on.....You cannot argue with the evidence, there are much greater people out there than you and me who have proved all this true, these are not my word they are words of experts and are fact, and no explination has ever been given in reply to them. Apparantly they are sending a camera to the moon to see if the flag and moon buggy are still up there as it is claimed they should still remain, so we will soon see, the truth will come out one day! Oh and the radioactive band cannot be crossed even with radioactive suits because of the level of radioactivity, it is much stronger than the radioactivity in an atomic bomb! Anyone attempting to cross it would be obliverated!!! | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 4:30:26 PM | ("It certainly is sad to see how one's mind can turn to mush when one doesn't take the trouble to actually READ anything other than "The National Enquirer." )
^^^We don't have The National Enquirer in the U.K. That's why it's called The NATIONAL Enquirer and not The International Enquirer! | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 4:31:55 PM | ^^^("What we need is for China to pull the greatest publicity scam of all time and really convince the world they are on the way to Mars")
What like the Americans did "on" the moon you mean?!!!  | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 4:34:53 PM | | The movie Capricorn one was made in 1978, the flag is jiggling not waving in the wind, its mounted on a very thin alumimun pole structure and when the gravity is as a low as it is on the Moon just planting the flag into the soil would make it vibrate for a very long time. On the walking part they actually had to teach themselves to hop as you see in the video, once they got there they really had no idea how they would be able to move around and one of the astronauts quickly discoved hopping was the easiest. I'll tell ya todays world is scary it is far to easy to confabulate people today cause they can instantly click 100,000 google hits that support their own confabulation. | |
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