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iris43
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Joined: 4/20/2007
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| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games ?
Posted: 7/5/2007 8:34:11 AM | I for one don't subscribe to this chat forever to get to know someone before I meet...its ridiculous. The sooner the better for me, in fact just the other day I chatted with a guy in the morning and we met that afternoon at Starbucks...it was not a love connection and I'm still alive to talk about it. If I had done what a lot of posters do chat endlessly on line, phone, whatever the case and shared about myself developed an on line chemistry, what a let down it would have been when we did finally meet, this way neither of us have wasted time there was no expectations and we are free to continue to look.
There is always an element of risk, if you are so afraid then prehaps on line dating is not for you.
Footnote: I have not met a lot of men from on line, I'm decerning about who I do meet. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 9:33:43 AM | If you had not given up that women would still be giving you excuses and putting off meeting for another week. Something was always going to come up because she had no intention of ever meeting you. Maybe; I was also thinking she wanted me to plan a whole Saturday with her; I thought that was preposterous because she refused to talk to me on the phone first, our e-mail correspondences weren't THAT in depth; I am not going to commit a whole Saturday plus pay for everything for someone I barely know, especially when she's playing BS games or is carrying around big-time emotional baggage.
I'm definitely not down-playing potential safety issues, they for sure exist, but meeting via the internet, you really need to expect that you are going to meet a crazy person or two, despite the best efforts to screen them out by coming up with a system that generates lots of false positives (being overly cautious), there will ALWAYS be the false negatives (the players/predators that slip through). One time I met a stalker. We exchanged home phone numbers, we meet for one date, everything seems fine, we meet for a 2nd date (can't remember if we had a 3rd date). I sensed something amiss, called her and told her although I liked her I didn't want to go on more dates. It turns out she looked up my home phone number, found my address, then one Friday when I come home from work, she's waiting outside my home in her car, she comes out and aggressively asks me why I feel like not seeing her anymore.
Everyone, women AND men, need to be careful with meeting strangers over the internet. I think the internet draws bottom-feeder type people to it like flies are drawn to poop. You sort of expect to meet a wacko or two. You really can't avoid it.
Trying to come up with a foolproof system is not going to work and you will limit yourself to experiences that may be beneficial. I won't say to a woman "sorry, can't meet, don't feel safe". I'd communicate exactly what are the issues that cause me to feel unsafe.
I'm not saying women don't do this, but I do think some women saying "sorry not safe" are testing a guy's reaction. Like the boy who cried wolf too many times, hearing that reason so often, it starts to sound like an excuse from someone who has serious emotional roadblock issues.
I honestly can't see why anyone would voluntarily string out the time to meet someone, but subconsciously they might be doing exactly that. If a lady feels unsafe for whatever reason, spell it out to the guy. If the guy is upstanding, he'll accept those explanations and probably try to work on the real issues to allay those concerns. A player will move on, who cares about them anyways? Once again, it's a COMMUNICATION issue. Remove doubts by explaining your feelings instead of saying "sorry can't meet don't feel safe". | |
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| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games ?
Posted: 7/5/2007 9:36:50 AM | [" I have read your thread on women "needing to feel safe " with great interest, but their is another angle to this that's yet to be discussed. The MSN angle. Alot of women will talk to you forever on pof IM but will refuse to give you their MSN to chat that way. Some of these women will even talk to you on the phone but still refuse to give you their MSN. Ask them why and they will tell you about not wanting to be flashed by pervert.
But i have learned the hard way the real reason they are so scared of chatting on MSN , with most of them it has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with them lying in their profiles. These women know that if you have their MSN it's just a matter of time before you ask to see each other on webcam and then the wall of cards will come thumbling down. These women don't want you to see what their idea of "average" or "a few extra pounds" really is so they turn to the "being safe" card to avoid MSN at all cost."
Interesting angle and not one i have experienced myself so i have no opinion on it.]-tdh46
Well now, that's a new one for me as well & it doesn't sound right for one simple reason: you can use the
cam on the POF's IM without asking first, whereas on MSN, don't you have to invite the person to accept?
In my experience you do & it is because of the experiences with webcams that I have had here on POF
that I am reluctant to accept webcams on Yahoo or MSN now. I will only do it, once I have gotten to know
the person & feel I can trust them, somewhat. But, I will ask them if they are dressed. And if that is really
an issue, simply turn it off, in preferences, so people can't tell you have a webcam. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 9:43:15 AM | We are not kids or minors. If someone decides to use a webcam communication to "flash" (poor taste etc IMO, but that is not the point), all the adult woman (or man) on the receiving end has to do is terminate the communication and all further contact. It is not like it's broacast on mass media prime time TV during the finals intermission, is it? And we have all seen male or female genitalia before have we not? All we got to do is "close the coms channels"!
Thus with all due respect, I think not using IM and tels and audio means and webcams is letting a few rotten apples spoil the media technology has given us for better communicating and reaching out to new people in this world we live in! And that is a shame, is it not?? | |
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| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games ?
Posted: 7/5/2007 10:10:02 AM |
One thing that would help all the men on here is stop trying to met so fast!!
There is an attitude that some women project, that every man in the world is dying to meet her, and will just have to wait for her to go "eeny, meeny, miney, mo" about which man she will "grant" the extraordinary privilege of getting to meet her, some months down the road. The truth is, it isn't real, until it's real life, and women online are a bit like catching a bus. If you miss one, another one, going in the same direction, will be along in a few minutes.
That's not to say, that I'm not somewhat selective, and don't think it takes a little time to know whether the woman I'm talking to is someone with whom there's the possibility of connection. Chatting in the morning, and meeting that same afternoon, is where it's most likely to lead to uncomfortable situations. The ones that HAVE worked, have been talking this week, and meeting next week, or early the week after. Beyond that, it is, as the OP suggests, women using the "safety" card as an excuse to play "hard to get" and act like Queen Bees. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:18:28 AM | | It is astounding that dating has come to this. You wouldn't think it would be this hard but there is just so many unknowns that you just can't trust anyone. I have been on here for a few months. When someone e-mails me, I tell them that I am not interested in endless e-mailing back and forth and I would like to meet face to face. I don't think this is necessarily just a female issue because a lot of men just stop responding to me when I suggest we met. You would think that I suggested that we get married or something. I have corresponded with quite a few people on here and to date I have only met two of them. I know that as a women that I have to be safe, so I do take precautions as meeting in a public place but don't you think that we are taking things way too far. People are willing to meet complete strangers in bars but for some reason if you are on an internet dating site then you somehow a weirdo!!! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:24:15 AM | Star,
After reading your profile, and seeing your attitude about things, I don't know what's up with guys closer to you. You are exactly the kind of woman that guys hope to find online, attractive, bright, centered and not into head games. If I had written to you, and you'd suggested a meet, my only question would have been "where, and when?" :) | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:25:50 AM | Just wanted you to know, now I'm not that bad of looking but I'm sure no model, it say's on my profile that I'm looking for friends. So far we will say out of 10 men that I might have talked to this way 8 have wanted to met right after the first hello. I have had some that would have went hundreds of miles away from home to met?
I try to tell them that I'm wanting to make friends and if after we have talked awhile then we could met. I'm not playing games I'm honest.
Now out of those 8 men I have met only one, why cause he was the same way he wanted to get to know me first. He turned out to be one great guy, no fireworks but that's ok we both now have new friends.
Why only one out of the 8, because after talking with them especially on the IM they were not the same person who I was first talking with, the real person started showing and it was not a nice picture.
Now if I don't want to run out the door just cause they wanted to met me I have been called several names and none of them very nice. Now I'm still glad that I have my rules, if me not wanting to met them right now would turn out a response like this would in the h...would want to met someone like that? | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:32:42 AM | Personally I think every woman (who was never arrested for a felony) should be armed.
This is especially true for women living alone or work nights or just want to feel secure in the knowledge that they have the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect themselves.
Knowing a few women who were attacked and did dial 911 and waited and waited until the police finally showed up did not make them feel secure if the police can take as long as 12 minutes to respond.
Many women do not even bother to report rapes as when they do they are treated like they "were looking for it or they lead the guy on or possibly they gave the wrong signals"
With a firearm pointed at a guys chest he knows she is saying NO and no means if the mutt comes closer he will have lead poisoning to contend with.
Today it is a violent world and thinking guns are the cause of crimes then using the same reasoning a FORK made Rosie O' Donnell a fat slob and the Car made Ted Kennedy a drunk leave the scene of a killing driver the car is at fault.
Married women looking for companionship other then with their spouse really have a need to know they are safe as how does one tell their husband she was attacked meeting her boy friend? | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:35:03 AM | There is an attitude that some women project, that every man in the world is dying to meet her
If folks here aren't dying to meet me... well they should be. I'm only half joking.
women online are a bit like catching a bus. If you miss one, another one, going in the same direction, will be along in a few minutes.
This is the same offline as well.. only you wait a lot longer for the next one. Unless you have gazillions of friends who have friends, who have friends.... and so on.
Those of us who are concerned with safety (we should ALL be, in my ever-so-humble opinion) and not with stringing someone along to bolster our egos are generally gonna be up front about our time-tables. Our meet-ee can then decide for him/herself if they feel like waiting it out.
I find it really gets me results being logic-girl as often as possible. Commonsense-girl gets me the mens too! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:37:03 AM | I am a very cautious woman but, on the other hand ,common sense has a lot to do with whether you should be afraid for your safety. I have met 5 men on this site. Everyone one of them was a "nice" guy and were gentlemen. I think you can tell alot about a person by what they write in their profile. Then, chat with them for awhile and then move on to a phone call. I am not the type who likes to sit at my computer and chat for a long time [I have too many other fun things to do!] so will meet with a guy who I think is interesting pretty quickly. Alot of times, I can tell within the hour if this person is going to be someone I want to cultivate a relationship with. So far, it hasn't happened but it's not because I'm afraid or that I'm dangling alot of men online.
I realize there is alot of game-playing that goes on with these dating sites. It's too bad because there are some truly awesome people out there who are looking for a normal relationship. Me being one of them. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:42:29 AM |
Those of us who are concerned with safety (we should ALL be, in my ever-so-humble opinion) and not with stringing someone along to bolster our egos are generally gonna be up front about our time-tables.
Probably the wisest comment I've read from anyone on this thread. It removes the "angst" factor or the subtle messages, and eliminates the confusion. I have adopted my own hard and fast "outer limit" of 6 weeks max.. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2007 10:52:17 AM | I think part of the problem is "online dating sites" still has the stigma of the only the needy, desperate losers go on them, think about this .... go back 7 or so years ago , if you were to say lets go online to meet someone most people would say "nahh only losers are on those things" Some folks still feel the same way about Online dating today.
I'm willing to bet a few of you wouldn't tell your family/best friends/colleagues and associates you're online. Online dating in the beginning im sure attracted the "losers"but it also gives people the chance to meet people they wouldn't have the chance of meeting? but the problem is it also attracts the wingnuts, whack jobs, nut jobs, socially awkward you name it, and you have to weed through the freaks to find a genuine person.
The same thing with msn/yahoo, it was great in the beginning, a great way of communicating with people if you didnt want to use the phone, or long distance, but now that's even polluted, with the inventions of webcams, every wannabe voyeur pops out of the woodwork.
I can see why women now a day have problems going on msn/yahoo, or cautious about meeting people, because some of the sick f*cks online, unfortunately the game players have made a name for themselves on here too | |
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tdh46
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Joined: 1/7/2007
Msg: 164 | |
| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games?
Posted: 7/5/2007 1:45:50 PM | "Those of us who are concerned with safety(we should all be, in my ever -so-humble opinion) and not with stringing someone along to bolster our egos are generally up front about our time-tables"
Brilliant statement Mariachi and that's all most people online want, they want to be able to see some light at the end of the tunnel. Nobody wants to waste time with someone that just using them to stroke their ego.
TEMPUS FUGIT.
Very good points made in your latest post, i would quote from it but i would have to quote the entire thread. | |
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tdh46
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Joined: 1/7/2007
Msg: 165 | |
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| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:22:28 AM |
The lonely lady living from behind her computer screen will use it because she has no intention of ever meeting anyone in person.
The girl with the huge ego will use it to dangle as many men as possible online. She is like a puppet master getting guys to dance so her ego can get stroked.
I think there is some truth in the above , but , it's not always that they never meet ....it's that they meet so rarely and have such unrealistic expectations that they ruin it for everyone else.
These types give women that are really serious about wanting to be safe a bad name. Guys when they hear it just think it's BS, because it's been used in a BS way so many times. Needing to be safe should never be used online in a BS way, it's just too an important an issue for that.
Many women need a guy to put alot of effort in to mailing and chatting in "virtual" world. Guys are not willing to do this because they aren't motivated , since they have wasted too much time on the women who are here to use guys for some attention .
I don't take any "profile " too seriously , because there seem to be so many time wasters .
It's only when meeting in person and you hit it off that you have anything . I can't write many mails , or long mails or put much effort into anything virtual and yet most women need that to be comfortable , so it's not a good situation. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2007 11:44:57 AM | | People tend to read horror stories. How often do people get victimized if they play it safe? And really - you can play it as safe as possible...and these internet predators will just play right along with it until they get the chance to strike. While it's good to be cautious and careful, if someone wants to get you, they will...unless your a wonderful judge of a character. Just be thankful that there are a lot more good people out there than there are bad. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2007 1:24:05 PM | Hi TDH46,
I always enjoy reading your posts even if I do not agree (smiles).
Because of my personal experiences ,I agree and disagree with this thought process you have posted(smiles). Because of the criteria that is being noted to find fault.
Dangling egos? Men have thier share of them(smiles). Does a woman not having time or the desire -either one seperately-to meet someone at the time or time-span the other would want denote a ego problem?
I do not come to this ( opinion) from being a conflicted person in general [ agreeing, but not], but from me being thought full of BS because of trying to be 'safe', so how can one tell in the cases where one does not want to date another or just is not sure at the time and the timing might have gotten really bad in one's life due to issues non-relating to a dating life? I have been labeled the same in your post unfairly at times.
Life can get so busy that it makes ones head spin and very difficult to date -bad timing-or chat and then life slows down again. To give too much information to one just because you were given their number does not make safe sense to me.
I have been accused of playing games on here because of wanting to be 'safe'.
How can I be found different from the ones you say are playing games with men?
Not until I go out with one yes? What if I do not, does that make me a person, who should not be trusted as truthful? I wonder how many of the before mentioned women are being put in the same wrong light? There must a degee that is wrongly being accused.
I am sure there are some doing what you said and the idea of saftey for all -as you brought out -as an important point and not one to be used as a game is extremely true.
My disagreement is only in what criteria is going to denote a woman a 'game' player?
The critieria seems very close to the same that one does when trying to be careful?
I have a beautiful teenage daughter, who I will not subject to having any insanity come into her life because 'Mom' wants to date. Not saying home-life will stay calm waters always , but I can try for it not be disrupted too much over my dealings.
I was accused of hiding behind the computer by a man and using my child as an excuse, who has since found out how wrong his assumption was pertaining to me being possible of actually dating. If you read this, you were wrong huh lol.
I was careful. I am careful. I do post a picture and share others of me more recent, but I do not give my exact town on the location.It is close. I have a child in home and have shared pictures of myself. I do not feel that over ego, but homely women get killed too.
Now, yes, meeting people offline can be risky too. Whereas, if one meets a man or woman who is local, they usually know the history of said person. Other's know of them and share information. If one is a child perv, wife beater, abusive in general, drug addict, thief, etc, it is a known 'town community 'fact.
Here on the www or meeting people away from town, which I would not without the use of the www as I do not go to bars much ( certainly not going to drive to a strange town just to meet men by myself)and live pretty much were one would not meet much of anyone new, but any stranger -man or woman met anywhere-should be chatted to a while before let into one's home,life,exact finding information, or going out anywhere non-private.
I know we all remember the man who was meeting people online(women) and chopping them up to bury on his property. Now, not trying to take any respect from the dead, but the women may or may not have been playing it safe enough to fly to meet him. I am not sure how much they 'thought' they knew about him.
I did fly to visit a guy once, but he had already come ot VA several times, I had met his parents and entire family in NY and exhanged videos of both us chatting and showing our home ( my idea) and the only thing I was scared of at the time was the plane crashing.I did not rush to share information about me with him and it was a while before he knew my real last name. I am not that paraniod anymore, but was new to www meeting and still am not 'experienced' with it as many might be.
I was not playing games with him in my safe precautions.
Now, pain-in-the-ass people may not be perverts or a threat to body,but how many of us had had people get mad( very mad) as we would not agree to dating or any further contact after a date or not-would or could not- respond when they wanted us too by telephone for various reasons? I have had that happen. And, btw, the guy who keeps calling me and leaving me crappy messages, when I decide to find your number and call you back , you will know you have been called,so stop the snide, mean ,crappy calls. I have had enough.
These people who can get pissed, but not go quietly, may be more of a hinderence to one's family's peaceful home, if let into their lives.-home phone( come home to bad vm's on the home phone?), home address, etc, Now, none of us can be sure who is more stable minded than the other, for I can come off as rather 'nuts' and far as I know, am sane enough and even stable minded on most days.
I would think guys would be careful of who they give their home phones to also? Exact place of residence? Do not always have the time they would like to converse with a woman or women? Yes, they might be labled wrongly for not doing so ,for a while, but maybe they are trying to limit 'nuts' or their life has given a curve and is making time very bad.
My sister had a guy even lie about what state he lived in on here. Now, that is an extreme case of safe protection, but it made him feel better.
I am not playing games,nor desperately rushing to meet people or sharing all my personal information, and certainly trying to be safe for the sake of my child.
I had a guy's ex gf ,who I did not know existed, go nuts relentlessly on my home telephone once and it took legal action to stop her. I learned a lesson.
So, I get labeled. It does not keep me up at night, but is not a good feeling.
How can one tell the difference?
Perhaps I am off base here, but it seems to be a close comparison of the two types?
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Posted: 7/6/2007 1:44:11 PM | re post 177
Some good points in there!
Managing the trade off between expected risk and expected "return" is a basic tool in the art and science of living, not just finance./investing. Many media and others tend to exaggerate the extreme incidents in order to capture attention and they wind up inducing "phobias" to people (phobia = a perception of risk which is blown of out proportion)! | |
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Posted: 7/6/2007 1:47:25 PM | You can sometimes tell the few that are actually more inclined to meet people in person as mature and sincere people on a dating site should . If I get the feeling they just want some virtual entertainment .... I do not continue .
It's often the newer profiles that are more real about things . I think maybe they meet someone and are off line soon enough .
If I like a profile (and that's all it is) I suggest we meet very soon ....if they can't handle that ....that's too bad ....best I can do.
Of course there are women who suggest you meet in person soon as well , which is great.
Women are free to use this as entertainment only , that's their choice .
It's just that I would like to know who is who , so I could avoid the waste of time.
By the way , meeting in person can be very safe ...much safer than meeting someone at a bar or in public or whatever . People who have had profiles on for a while are somewhat proven .
Get the guys home number , block your caller id , meet in a very public place....very safe.
I think it is extremely rare that someone on here is "dangerous" ... even less than in public
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Posted: 7/6/2007 3:24:12 PM |
It's often the newer profiles that are more real about things . I think maybe they meet someone and are off line soon enough .
Ut oh. That means I'm screwed. 
When I was first online dating (milleniums ago now ~ 7+ years) I was a "quick to meet" person depending upon location, travel, etc. Not one time did I "fear" what was to come during said meeting. I didn't even think in those terms back then. I was stunned to come to POF two years ago and read these types of "fears" all these years later. I was seriously baffled.
Not too long ago I had a thought: I've been a creature of aloneness and wander lust all of my life. I learned personal safety, knowing my surroundings, common sense in uncommon situations, etc., at a very young age. When you are alone more often than not, I think it shapes your senses differently than those who were in tight-knit family circles, one neighborhood growing up, a "constant" so to speak of the same people, places and things. There is a good deal of security and comfort in that. (I am not meaning inner-city situations or the urban areas of today, I'm talking about 30 years ago.) So, for me, being out of my own comfort-zone was my comfort-zone. I didn't have a specific place that was viewed as "safe." I viewed all places I ventured as "out of my element", which meant I was keenly aware at all times. I may be entirely off base ~ but that is about the only logic I can come up with as to why I've been fine ALL these years in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people and things ~ yet others are vastly different in thought on this. Just a hypothesis, nothing concrete or written in stone ~ I ponder this topic quite frequently and I really can't think of another reason I am so different. I'm not exempt from crime nor do I view the world through shaded lenses ~ I think I really am just wired differently than most other women. (Not men, since we aren't talking their safety..LOL)
As for meeting/dating today ~ it's new to me again. And I have changed a great deal since my first online date. Today, I'm one of those "email me to death" people. I'm certain it has detoured quite a few people. That's OK with me. I have my own personal reasons why I take so much time, and if he isn't OK with that ~ he probably wouldn't be OK with me anyway. It's all personal preference ~ I just happen to be looking for ONE man. Not one in 10 or 20. I might not get it right, I might have devoted a lot of time, energy, effort and interest into one person, who may not end up being "him" ~ but after all that time, I'll bet we remain friends. It's a win win for me either way. I applaud those who can do the first/last date stuff ~ it's just NOT me anymore. JMO  | |
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iris43
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Joined: 4/20/2007
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| WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games?
Posted: 7/8/2007 7:41:36 AM |
Women are free to use this as entertainment only , that's their choice .
It's just that I would like to know who is who , so I could avoid the waste of time.
This is my second go around with the online dating world, and I have also met women, by chance encounter, in real life. I have met some women, then and now, from online. Most women I've met are like everyone else, who is single, past college age, and the last survey I saw, showed that online is the most frequent way that grown ups meet now, far more often than the old "singles bars" route.
Just like in the "real world", there are liars, players, and crazies; but there are a lot more, who are sincere. A lot of them just "aren't interested" in me, and some who are, I'm not interested. The thing that makes online so cool, is that it is "efficient". You can screen out a lot of people with a few emails, that in "real life" dating, you might have had to have a "bad date" to figure out there is something "off".
So, sure, some women are players, wanting attention, and lying to get it. Some guys are too. Most are legitimate, but some have greater fear than hope, and can't "pull the trigger" to actually step out in the real world, or at least not with me. The point is, it's not "real", until it is in the real world, so there has to be some level of emotional caution, before you meet. The key for me is to be realistic, without becoming skeptical. My assumption in talking to someone, is that she is as "real" and "legit" as I am, while recognizing that there are some, who aren't. If you get caught up in someone, who isn't sincere, the "hurt" you feel has more to do with your "hopes", than with actually "losing" something. You never really have anything to lose, until it's in the real world. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2007 10:02:20 AM | Let me tell you a short story and why I take so long in the meeting dept.
I was talking with this man from here, finally even gave him my phone#, he called me one day and as we were talking I told him that I had my 4 yr.old grandaughter with me, me being the trusting kind and not thinking anything about it told him which park I was getting ready to take her to, I forgot to add that we live in the same town.
Ok, grand and I are at the park and all of a sudden he shows up, we have never met yet in person. He comes with homemade cookie (flashing light) tells me about how he works at this camp for abused kids every summer (little light) then he wants to play with my grand, no talking with me, just wanted to play with her (big flashing light).
Of course I came up with excuse's why she could not a cookie and there's no way in hell that I will let him pick her up when trying to play with her.
Now guess what, I never heard from him again!! I didn't want to think what I was thinking so I asked my friends and they thought the same. Finally I had to tell my daughter and son-in-law just in case.
Now you tell me what's wrong with being safe? | |
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