| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 4:14:02 AM | Someone wrote about honesty and now I cannot find it.
Female friend of mine has been on over 100 documented dates with different guys, (all from RSVP, none from here). She told me in 100 % of cases the guy lied in his profile to get a better strike rate. She also knows about 20 women that lie for the same reason.
I also know of a group of women that invented a fake profile that was a parody of a real person just for fun. Whether it was to increase or decrease the real womans strike rate i'm not quite sure.
So to my theory, I call it "1 in10".
Of all the people you meet you will be attracted to only 1 in10.
Of all the people that meet you only 1 in 10 will be attracted to you.
There is no correlation between there groups so that 9 in 10 of the people you are attracted to will not want you. This leaves you at 1 in 100.
Of the people you are attracted to you will speak to 1 in 10. This lowers your chances to 1 in 1000.
Used properly, if everyone told the truth in their profile and paid attention to others profiles, this removes the 1 in 100 issue. If you message every match this removes the last 1 in 10. So done properly sites like this should vastly increase your pool of prospectives.
But if people lie to get a better strike rate, the wrong people will be attracted and the meetings will be uneventful.
How about just have fun? | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 4:23:40 AM |
in 100 % of cases the guy lied in his profile to get a better strike rate. She also knows about 20 women that lie for the same reason
Can I ask what sort of lies these include? I ask because I haven't struck this to any great degree myself, but perhaps that's because I rarely agree to meet anyone and so any lies they've told never become issues, but it leaves me curious about what these folk lie about? | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 4:44:30 AM | Why do men assume it's easier for women? Why? I'll tell you why..
If you're a scraggly old woman and want to get laid you just go out to sleazy bars at 3am and watch the scraggly old drunks parade their considerable charms before you...
If you're a scraggly old bloke and want to get laid you go and get drunk at sleazy bars and at 3am try to chat up the scraggly old woman along with the other losers, and still get knocked back...
C'mon girls, when it comes to getting IT, you know you have the upper hand...always have and always will... | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 4:48:51 AM | in 100 % of cases the guy lied in his profile
Actually that 100% figure may be correct...
I went back and looked at my profile and discovered that I said I liked watching movies on my couch.
For the record, I DO NOT own a couch. It is a one-seater recliner.
This means that it's either going to mean one of us sitting on the floor, or both of us squished into the one-seater together. You will NOT be comfortable.
This was not meant to deceive or give false impressions of what your movie watching experience would be like. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:06:32 AM | ^^^  You men really can't be trusted can you!!!! Bit late for disclaimers now that you've been caught out there Spongey.
Hey Likesalaugh...what you said there is only true for a woman if she isn't fussy about who she'd get it on with. And anyway, have met heaps of guys who have said that if they ain't fussy about who they get it on with, it's as easy for them. I think it still comes back to your standards. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:18:25 AM | Naams, that's right of course.
But it's true to say that the odd mutton-dressed-up-as-lamb can get favours from men much more easily than a turkey-dressed-up-as-goose can from women. 
When it comes to the lurve game I reckon it's pretty even-stevens. Both genders are equally capable of either being true, or being deadsh1ts to their partners. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:33:56 AM |
If you're a scraggly old woman and want to get laid you just go out to sleazy bars at 3am and watch the scraggly old drunks parade their considerable charms before you...
If you're a scraggly old bloke and want to get laid you go and get drunk at sleazy bars and at 3am try to chat up the scraggly old woman along with the other losers, and still get knocked back...
C'mon girls, when it comes to getting IT, you know you have the upper hand...always have and always will...
What if you're a not so scraggly, not so old woman who would like to find someone to love?
Not so easy - no upper hand here... | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:37:23 AM | And exactly what is wrong with being a scraggly old woman anyway??
I only have to go to my compatibility page and i get to choose from about a dozen or so scraggly old blokes..........does this computer not have eyes or something!! | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:41:39 AM |
Can I ask what sort of lies these include? I ask because I haven't struck this to any great degree myself, but perhaps that's because I rarely agree to meet anyone and so any lies they've told never become issues, but it leaves me curious about what these folk lie about?
Not at this time. She is considering writing a book on her experiences.
Mostly stuff like age, height, body shape I think. I'll see if I can convince her to post here. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/5/2007 5:43:35 AM | Can't imagine being obsessed enough to
1. go out with 100 men in the first place
2. document all the dates....
If this is why she's on the site, to document this, then clearly she's lying in her profile too? In which case, maybe it's a matter of like attracting like.
I've met a few guys that aren't what they say, but it's nowhere near 100%. And sometimes it's just because we don't see ourselves like others do... | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 7/6/2007 5:25:37 PM | | If you want a laugh you should check out the posts on "what men like and dislike in womens profiles". Must admit I found some of the posts offensive, but it shows just how narrow-minded some of the guys are, and they wonder why they can't find anyone? | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/13/2008 4:24:32 AM |
msg51: Female friend of mine has been on over 100 documented dates with different guys. She told me in 100 % of cases the guy lied in his profile to get a better strike rate. She also knows about 20 women that lie for the same reason.
One female wasting 100 individual guys time? No wonder 100% of guys lie.
msg51: I also know of a group of women that invented a fake profile that was a parody of a real person just for fun. Whether it was to increase or decrease the real womans strike rate i'm not quite sure.
A group of women who invented a fake profile each perhaps? Maybe it was the "20" women that lie? Who really numbered only 10 (a fake profile each)... therefore 200% of women lie, but only 100% of men.
msg65: If you want a laugh you should check out the posts on "what men like and dislike in womens profiles". Must admit I found some of the posts offensive, but it shows just how narrow-minded some of the guys are, and they wonder why they can't find anyone?
And there you have it!
Guys can't find anyone because they're narrow minded.
And women can't find anyone because guys are liars.
heh heh and some of us are cheats too.!!! | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/13/2008 5:02:47 AM |
Cheats didn't make it into the documentation or percentages..LC
I know you're only trying to cheer me up CC.... but, I'm a narrow minded Cheat with Lying tendencies! | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/13/2008 4:39:12 PM | I wanted to reply to two quick things.
First of all "why do men believe"... Why is it tha so many posts say "why do men do" or "why do men" etc. I know the word "some" was tacked on later in response to complaints by us men, but the fact that it wasn't there in the first place suggests a big part of the problem. "Why do women assume all men are the same?" (Yes, I know I did the same thing there. It's called irony.)
Secondly, I don't think it's easier for women than men. There might be quantity men, but are there quality? Then there's the issue of "players" and liars, cheaters, etc. So even if you find an apparently good one there's a fair chance he'll turn out to be a jerk.
But I did want to say something in response to what Namaah said (admittedly ages ago).
I appreciate that many women get a lot of messages, and that a lot of them are not appropriate. A large proportion are sleazy. A large proportion are totally outside of age requirements, etc. A large proportion have nothing in common. A large proportion are rude. A large proportion write pointlessly short messages like "Hi, how are you?" And out of all of those there will be just an occasional guy every now and then, who takes the time to write something intelligent and thoughful, makes it clear he's read your profile, is around the right age, etc.
So, here's my question: What does it mean if you are a guy, and you do that, and you never ever get a response?
I mean, if there are so few decent contacts, and yet your own "decent contact" is consistently ignored, does that not imply that you are in some other way undateable? Maybe just too ugly? :)
The only point I'm really trying to make is that while I'm not by any means saying that "women have it easy" I do also think that women vastly underestimate the number of emails men write that get ignored, the number of "good" emails. No matter how long, how funny, direct, witty, intelligent, etc, we try to be, a 1/10 response rate is actually pretty good. And that response is generally "thanks but no thanks". | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/13/2008 6:12:46 PM |
No matter how long, how funny, direct, witty, intelligent, etc, we try to be, a 1/10 response rate is actually pretty good. And that response is generally "thanks but no thanks". WG it would be interesting to know if this is standard for all. Given that people (not just women) probably check their email and then have a look at the profile, does the profile accurately reflect you and your priorities in the 15 seconds you've got while they have a quick flick over it? For instance your profile shows your profession as IT guy and the first two interests listed as reading and video games. From what I've read of your forum posts over the last month or two this isn't a representative picture of you or the way you think. I realize that you have more interests listed and a rooly excellent testimonial but in display advertising its all about the impression people are getting in the first few seconds.
I dont think it is easier for women. Not unless you're desperate and not very choosey. Its just one of those unfounded ideas that get formed from seeing what happens in the pub on a Saturday night. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/13/2008 8:32:05 PM |
WG it would be interesting to know if this is standard for all.
No, my 1/10 is pretty generally standard, though some men have a much worse result (1/20, etc).
Thanks for the feedback on my profile but it's hard to know what to say. I mean... I AM an IT guy. So... that's pretty much appropriate. And video games are a pretty large part of my life. In fact, I run one of Australia's largest video games websites, and one of the world's largest gaming podcasts. If that's a problem I'd rather put it out there from the outset. As for reading... well, if a woman has a problem with a guy who's "a reader" we probably wouldn't have gotten on very well anyway.
I know what you're saying, though. Overall impressions might well be a bit "nerdy". But to a large degree that's who I am. If you ain't down with the geek chic we probably didn't really have much of a future.
My profile is due for a revamp, so when I do so I'll keep your feedback in mind. 
(Random snowman. Sorry.) | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/14/2008 6:31:10 PM | I agree with the devils hamster (or was it lucifers rat?) - in the end its a numbers game.
> Starting with a ratio of 3:2 that is 3 men to every 2 women on PoF in Brisbane and
> assuming for the moment that both sexes are and act equal,
> considering that women get 10-20 times more uninvited contacts than males on average (based on observation) and
> considering that women despite the statistics still believe they are hard done by
i would have to say is why men might think that women have the lesser problem of picking and chosing on their hands, but habitually assume that they have drawn the short end of the stick.  | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/15/2008 12:26:10 AM | Okay - after reading all of this, I have to admnit, I've been lying in my profile. I'm really a man. (what are my percentages of everything previously mentioned now?) | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/15/2008 1:10:18 AM |
Okay - after reading all of this, I have to admnit, I've been lying in my profile. I'm really a man.
Oh great now you've gone and increased the odds against me finding someone. | |
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| Why do men assume it's easier for women?
Posted: 5/15/2008 2:11:45 AM | | I think when you take in account that like half the guys on internet dating sites are looking for "casual" etc it probably brings the numbers back to somewhere around even but it's still a one in a million chance any of us will ever meet mr or ms right, here or anywhere else, sad but true, thats why I enjoy the forums | |
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