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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 8:39:29 AM |
Actually, the women I know don't really give a cr*p about how much money a man makes, as long as he's responsible with what he does make. We generally make our own. I also know of no women in my life who would "settle"...period.
Yup... as you point out, there is a lot of unrealistic expectations these days with internet dating, and dating in general, I think. The expectations of both men and women are unrealistic in all too many cases. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 9:38:05 AM | I'm not disagreeing with you, TallTexann, but research has shown that 90+% of married men say the thing that first attracted them to their (future) wives was her looks. And, of course, the other 10% have likely fallen prey to political correctness and are lying.
The sorts of other dimensions you mention that are important for a relationship enter into the equation only after first contact has taken place. Yes, a babe often doesn't seem so hot the moment after she first opens her mouth, but hope springs eternal, and I've yet to run into any guy who goes after the fuglies on the chance that one of them might have many other fine attributes.
...men, in general do tend to seem a little more arrogant about this, believe themselves to look younger/more attractive than they actually are, and tend to feel less guilty "judging" people on largely irrelevant or selfish characteristics. They also happen to have an easier time finding a younger mate
This doesn't quite add up. If men tend to be self-deluded and are thus (foolishly) going after the younguns, all that competition would seem to make it more difficult for the average one to find a younger mate, not easier, as you say. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 10:34:00 AM | This guy is way off base. I am 50 years of age and i would have no issue what so ever dating or having arelationship with a woman my own age or older . Women in this age catagory have alot to offer and they have excellent bull...s..t detectors so the reality is you have the oppurtunity to develop a great friendship and meet a lady who usually has themselves together. So i say bring them on .
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 10:36:45 AM | Most 30 year old men have it all over most 40-60 year old men when it comes to physical beauty, stamina, health. It's just what happens! And there are alot of men (and women) who have reached "middle age" and are having real problems with it. Being with a younger partner helps them hold on to that youth that they are desparately clinging to. The may have wrinkles, thinning hair, and a paunch
First of all, TallTexann, you illustrate that most 30 year olds do not "have it over most 40-60 year" olds. Unless you are gifted with off-the-chart genes, you clearly embrace a lifestyle of overall wellness that highly likely serves as a wonderfully positive example for your children. And as a time-pressed single parent no less! You clearly make wellness a priority, and you are not 30.
Being 40, 50, 60 or 70 is not synonymous with wrinkles, thinning hair and paunches . As for the "physical beauty" of a person? Wrinkles and thinning hair are the natural progression of aging and (in most cases) have no connection whatsoever to a person's ability to embrace a healthful lifestyle. Rather, the discipline and positive outlook required of a person over 40 to maintain a physically fit appearance (including wrinkles and less hair:) , are in themselves i would think to be highly attractive character attributes . | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:03:21 AM | generalization !! generalization !! what facts you have to base your assumptions on ?
an experience with a man 63 years old who's had what? marriages ?
40 to 60 something males? you want a honest opinion ? come on now! or give you falidity to your obsession of looking younger then your age ? accepting age evolution and loving yourself at whatever age you are ? regardless of others assumptions or opinionated squrks !!
a redundant "blog " of women fasinated with staying young, without excepting the beauty old age brings , a seasoned woman shows endlessly inner and outward beauty not seen with the human eyes.
i'm 56 years old , " beauty is in th eyes of the beholder " a wise man would realize this as well as a woman, to feed our selfish ego and vanity,lets redundantly have these "blogs " on such subjects.
not to be mean, but a reality check in here! ever heard of" love me for me" instead of the mundane attempts to hold on to our youth, but embrace getting older and wiser in our individual experiences in life.
a woman or a man's opinions of who we are equates what? defines what? who we truly are deep within our heart and soul, our true essence and self worth? absolutely not !! especially those still caught up in this facade and illusion of staying young !!
quote: " when i was a child i thought as a child, now that i'm a man or woman i put away my childish things ".
an older man shows wisdom in being distinguish, an older woman shows a elogant beauty unseen within eyes obsessed with vanity !!
as we evolve we're less concern with the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, but rather a more for filling, and enriched life that wisdom and insight brings with old age.
take a picture when you were young, remember! look in the mirror now and see how and where you have evolved to! wisdom allows you to define the difference and love yourself regardless, " called self love "
this equates to : excepting maturity as a adult !!
not what i've been , but what i have become !!
isaiah's love | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:13:42 AM | ^^^ Nice talk there Myloves4ever. But that's all it is. You're not walking the walk.
Strange how your profile filters out women who are more than 1 year older than you but filters in women 26 years younger than you.
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:23:27 AM | I am 45yrs old..
I find that Men who are in their 50's appreat women in their 40's and the best relationship i ever had was with a man who was 10yrs older then me... He though i was wonderful.. He always made me feel special.. So i was a little fluffy as he said but damn I am not a barbee doll.. I am a women who had 2 kids, and cancer... at the time.. anyway.. I went to the gym but he was too sick to do this.. I took him with parkensons illness and chrones.. And he took me and the family and my job and life style. but do to his illness life changed....... He did not want me to take care of a ill man at 42 so he left me thinking of my needs first.
I dated a few 40-9 men and they sucked thought i was to be like a 18teen yr old.. but I am not.. they wanted sex and only sex and nothing but sex so they do not have me..
I then dated a man who is 62yr old ---- 18yrs different.. he is thankful that a 45yr old women would be interested in him and he is doing all he can to make this relationship work... He is putting in so much effort that even my kids think he is the best of best.. I though my daughter hated every man i dated.. NOPE>> she loves this one.. why becouse we are know...
Grandma and Grandpa... so she is loving it... He helps in the house, he brings us flowers, he shares his time as much with me as with the kids.. he dose not mind the family thing he quite likes it at times... and as for a man who has more vitality then a 40yr old.. all i have to say is this... Men who are on Viagro... I fell sorry for you in the future.. becouse.. Most 60yr olds... do not need this.. they are well equiped with out it.. you just have to re.... build... there selfesteem and you have it made.. It is hard for a man to learn a new or younger women but if you old farts get out there..
There are tons and tons of women in their 40's who love OLDER MEN... you are kind and generous, you talk sweet to us, you place your hand on are middle of are back.. not are ass's.. you open up doors, you can sit at the table and eat dinner with the enter family and still have something to say... YOU have so much common sence that not even a 3yr old can fool you.... lol YOU are interesting and sex... I might say.... and look great in tight jeans....., so up date your damn wardrobe.. Well that is about all that is needed..
Women.. quit dating younger men and 40yr olds... ***Date only 50 and 60yr olds... it is so much funnier..... 
Did i mention this... If you want the best sex you have ever had.. then you need to get away from these 40yr olds.. they suck I have not meet one yet who can have sex worth my time.. but give me a 50 or 60yr old and they PLAY IN THE BEDROOM, THEY ARE CREATIVE AND WILL DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT THEM TO DO...... DRESS ME UP AND WE WILL PLAY........  | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:27:59 AM | Toenails go bask in the sun some more ....oh but of course after youve finished your 23 posts for the day and leave the conversation for the single as we all know your married and loving! the easy life....
She always rubs me the wrong way ... must remind me of someone?
back to the post
I can say for myself, my age hasnt seemed to affect me in the dating arena, but I'm interested in what men post.... I didnt/ and dont know if they really feel the way your date stated.... but I kinda doubt it! | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 12:42:09 PM | arugula: that's a great name for you, i love a woman that's challenging and you are! i read your profile and yes 1 see you have alot to say , a bit opinionated , i respect you have at least experience with the oposite sex before voicing your opinions to say the least. no " hate mail" here love ! .
before you believe you have me so well , confined within your definition of whom you think i am, experience the man first, the walk you speak of may surprise you !!
no i'm not timid or intiminated by a controlling woman , who access men according to what her experience has taught her. 30 to 57 , puts you in that catagory does it?
rather then to jump to conclussions , lets chat and see if your assumptions are valid ?
or are you up for the challenge, or talk a good game, before testing the ground you may walk on and find you may have put your foot in your mouth! lol !
i love your demeanor, at least you have the gutts to say what's on your mind, yeah nice pics, i'll give you credit for that much. no one linners here dear or sexual overtures, past that adolescent stage.
regardless i still hold to my convictions of that particular blog !! blah.....blah....blah.....
as i said and i reiterate : just ego and vanity looking to stay young and not accept the beauty of growing older! not like ! ' BURGER KING", can't have it your way !!
we all get old a fact of life !!
read some ofmy post dear they may surprise you, or at least give you a futher understanding who you think i am ! i respect that much about you , adventurous and may just do as i requested, we'll see !!
i'll see if that true essence behind that pretty face is as interesting as her forward attitude toward me !!smile , have a great day !!arugula !!
isaiah, no hate just love for you ya !! peace | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 2:01:18 PM | After reading White Gardenia's post, I do want to make it clear that I am NOT implying that ALL men over 60 are only looking for a potential caregiver! But I had to point out that quite a few men under 60 think that they need something 20 years younger in order to get enough sex...
The whole problem here, at the core, is guys who are rejecting the idea of relationships with women their own age because of a stupid locker room myth! Granted they aren't ALL that stupid, but a lot of men are gonna be led to a lonely old age in a nursing home (or depending on their kids) because they thought with the wrong head!
For myself, I've only had a relationship with one guy significantly younger than myself,all others have been with men my own age or older, and I've met some really great, active guys who are sixtysomething...
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 2:10:23 PM |
But I had to point out that quite a few men under 60 think that they need something 20 years younger in order to get enough sex...
The whole problem here, at the core, is guys who are rejecting the idea of relationships with women their own age because of a stupid locker room myth!
And, here you are using women's coffee circle myths as to why men like younger women.... not to mention that men are the only creatures who think with their genitalia.... women are at least as bad, even worse.... read the threads about women staying or going back to real losers and abusers....
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 2:30:42 PM | sweetie, I've read it right here in PoF forums... quite a few men think that postmenopausal women have lost all interest in sex and only want a man for social and financial reasons. I don't belong to any women's coffe circles. Not all men are that misinformed, but I do think that many men regard 50+ women as suspect in the sexual responsiveness department. I just happen to have the balls to stand up and SAY that's what's behind their chasing after women half their age.
As to women who stay with or go back to abusive or loser men, there are many reasons and I DOUBT that terrific sexual performance is ALWAYS the driving force when a woman remains in an abusive relationship( more often it's fear of financial devastation, fear of being unable to cope without a spouse or SO, low self esteem, or sometimes just downright fear of the guy himself!)
I'll check back Sunday night or Monday morning and see how this discussion is proceeding...have a great weekend everybody!
Cindy O | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:01:50 PM |
sweetie, I've read it right here in PoF forums... quite a few men think that postmenopausal women have lost all interest in sex and only want a man for social and financial reasons.
Well, darling, I'm sure there are some men who think in the way you stated, but, being a guy and having many male friends and having discussed which females are hot many times, it's the young, tight, firm, smooth-skinned bodies that are most attractive to most men no matter what age the men are. And, yes, of course there are exceptions.
And, I was not talking about 'sexual responsiveness' as much as 'sexual attractiveness' or 'attraction' in general when I was talking about BOTH sexes thinking with their genitalia. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:10:06 PM |
general when I was talking about BOTH sexes thinking with their genitalia.
Thinking with genitalia... does this factor in that I've had a hysterctomy several years ago? Or does make me a half-wit... I'll take it... damn could use another excuse... this is good... thanks for your clarity and insight... | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:16:52 PM |
Thinking with genitalia... does this factor in that I've had a hysterctomy several years ago? Or does make me a half-wit... I'll take it... damn could use another excuse... this is good... thanks for your clarity and insight...
I'm not sure about someone who's had a hysterectomy.
Have you ever jumped into a relationship because the guy was just irresitable somehow despite knowing the relationship was probably doomed from the start? | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:19:06 PM | Janet4now, Stargazer,
I'm having a hard time taking you two serious. You can't make me believe the guys aren't lined up at your door. I've looked at your photos and profiles -- in my city it would be like a gold rush | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:24:13 PM | | Well uptowner, I'm turning, looking at my door, and I'll be damned -- there is nothing there but an open screen (with the hopes my independent cat will run away and find life is better somewhere else). So take me serious or not, I don't give a wahoo. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:26:19 PM | My!!! My!!! Toenail clipping? My picture hasnt been retouch, I dont go to glamour to shot a picture of me. My picture you are looking at was taken June 29th right after my son got married in San Diego California. If you dont believe me who cares? I am 60 yrs old and I can give you some pof who had met me in person ask them if I really look same as my picture. You are a woman do not insult our aging process, you are getting to this age sooner than you thought. I eat healthy and working out as much as I could inspite of 2 jobs I have to support my children. I might be old but hasnt lost my sex appeal and my sensuality, I love making love.      | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:58:25 PM | | Well,the woman I'm seeing right now is young enough to be my daughter.She used to be a co-worker of mine,and she pursued me after she left the company.Her interest has not so much to do with money as it does with security.She has 2 small children,and I have none.I didn't get involved with her because of some mid life crisis either.But a couple of months into this thing and I'm a little embarrassed,to tell the truth.I have old high school classmates with kids her age.My older brother(by 3 years) is the same age as her mom.I've only told a few people at work that I'm even involved with this girl.I can't take her to my high school reunion this August,and I certainly can't take her to my family reunion in September.I've tried to end it a couple times already,but it's a delicate situation.She's had a very troubled past,and I'm scared she will go back down the wrong road if/when I break it off.She's very attractive,and she is very sweet.She deserves a bright future and a happy life.We're just not a good match. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:18:44 PM | That's a sad perspective. But then, he was divorced twice!
I'm divorced once after 13 years of marriage. Then a couple of years later I met the love of my life. She was a widow, 12 years older than I. We were both born in a year "of the monkey", which may say something to some people!
The happiest years of my life were the 13 years I knew that sweet woman. Now I'm a widower, but a widower that knows what it means to be truly in love with such a beautiful woman. It saddens me that there are so many people in life that never know what I know now. For me, loving someone is paramount. I hope to love someone again in that way. But I know now that nothing less will do. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/7/2007 1:02:52 AM |
A 40 something hitting on a 20 something in a club or bar is quickly humilated to the point he wouldn't do it many times.
Seriously? Where do these ideas come from? I have absolutely no problem meeting women in their 20s and have never once been humiliated. How the heck are they gonna humiliate me anyway, by declining if I ask them to dance? Sh*t, I'd be humiliated on a regular basis.
To be perfectly honest, I prefer dating women closer to my own age but there just aren't that many of them around that are single, so I search elsewhere. It isn't that I am trying to stroke my ego or impress my friends blah, blah blah... I just don't want to limit my options. It's hard enough dating as it is. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/7/2007 5:29:10 AM |
Should women in my st/age of life face "reality" and accept that our chronological age matters more to most men our own age than our physical fitness and all of the other things that we feel we have to offer Mr. Right?
Nope, in my opinion, the guy was just plain WRONG!!!!
Chronological age doesn't matter at all.
I tend to shy away from women who are a lot younger than I am because they don't have the same years of experience and it shows. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/7/2007 9:22:32 AM |
Seriously? Where do these ideas come from? I have absolutely no problem meeting women in their 20s and have never once been humiliated. How the heck are they gonna humiliate me anyway, by declining if I ask them to dance? Sh*t, I'd be humiliated on a regular basis.
Where? lol By direct observation. Very few men who are 15 or more years older will even approach the girls. But there's always a few who'll get liquored up and think they have a chance. It's fun watching. Oh, and I have 3 daughters...25, 25, and 22. I hear all the time about the old "creepy perverts" who come on to them. And "old" starts around 35 to them. | |
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| Calling all 40-60Something Males?
Posted: 7/7/2007 10:24:58 AM | I would not even consider getting involved with a woman more than 10 years younger then I. But than, I am far from being a couch potato, so it is quite hard for me to find a woman closer to my age. And as far as sex goes, there is nothing wrong with a lot of women over 60 or even 70. They might think that they are sexually "dead" till they find the right guy. As long as women keep themself reasonably fit and keep their head out of the fridge , they have every chance in the world to find a nice guy close to their own age.
I guess I'm entitled to my opinion | |
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