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 Author Thread: is it sin to be a wiccan?
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 351
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 7:33:20 AM
Spiritual Judgement is God's domain no one else's and that is expressed through the Bible those here that try to show you what is written. Regardless of what you do it is something that is written and expressed. Barbaric is something you may have learned from your former church. It is not what is written in the Bible.
No one is in trouble wicc or enchan....there is only two ways and if you know the word sin how is it that one comes to learn it?

All the others are attempting to turn all away from sin but ultimately it is your decision.
 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 352
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 7:39:08 AM
There are an infinite number of ways to approach even the tiniest detail Dei..Religion is no acception.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 353
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 7:42:23 AM
Now you know I am not of one religion........ I am with Christ Jesus and that is where my Faith dwellls. Sin is from the Holy Bible and not expressed freely without definition from the Bible itself.

 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 354
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 7:43:15 AM
Hmm, then you see my point.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 355
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 7:54:24 AM
May I ask then do you think it is a sin....Ent? For your in the Craft.
 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 356
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 8:00:45 AM
There is no sin Dei, only light and dark energies.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 357
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 8:02:55 AM
Ah so then it is either Dark or Light. Not sin. humm then what is yours?
 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 358
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 8:07:40 AM
My what? I balance the two Dei, to acheive harmony of both. With out one, the other can never exist, both are nessisary.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 359
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 8:11:24 AM
That is wild, so how does one come to know which is light and which is dark?
I just wonder this for I am not familiar
 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
Msg: 360
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 9:37:22 AM
Listening to ones spirit inside. Observing the effects around us. Understanding that everything is connected and part of Creation. Thinking for ones self.
 smoochiepooches

Joined: 3/2/2005
Msg: 361
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 9:50:30 AM
Dei,

Balance is what we all seek. In everything there must be balance. You obviously have never felt the life force energy, Dei. or you would surely understand light and dark energy. I must say I am surprised because you seem to be so close to Christ. The bible is an ancient text that is full of examples of sin. Man wrote the bible, didn't he ????? Isn't it our potential of sinning that keeps us human. I am just trying too say none of us are perfect, except for you Dei !!!!!! Sometimes the best lessons are learned through sin.
SmoochiePooches
 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 362
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 11:44:19 AM
Dei, let me see how can I explain this. Every person on earth has good points, and bad points. This is the nature of mankind. The answer isn't nessisarily to "cast out" the bad things, but embrace them for what they are, human Nature. The more we make dark enegy taboo, the more it is acted upon. When you meet someone, we'll say its a girl. You meet her, she's bright, shes funny, and shes quite attractive. You like her allot, as time goes on you begin to see some of her faults, things that really annoy you. Now do you only focus on the good, and let the bad drive you crazy? do you leave her only focusing on the bad? Or do you ballance the good and bad equally, and learn to love her not only for her "Light" aspects but for the dark ones as well???
 LottaBottle

Joined: 6/23/2005
Msg: 363
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 12:10:16 PM
From a bible perspective this is what Jesus had to say about people :-

Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

It seems to me he is not talking here of trees (humans) with a mixture of Light and Dark energies..Its either one or the other..Yet the Wiccans claim we have to balance the two..Ever seen a balance type of weigh scale..A little either side and the arm swings quite quickly to the dominant side..
 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
Msg: 364
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 1:04:40 PM
Nice perspective, but seems to be a somewhat naive one.

If we are talking about human nature, few are a pure example of one or the other. I have seen good men lie, cheat, and fight, and I have seen untrustworthy men show great understanding and wisdom.

If we were to take Lottas posting style, the way he ridicules and belittles people, and apply his mindset, he would be a bad person, capable of no good act. I have seen him post some intelligent and constructive posts here however, so I know better.
 LottaBottle

Joined: 6/23/2005
Msg: 365
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 1:11:58 PM
If we were to take Lottas posting style, the way he ridicules and belittles people

At it again eh, never give up Socal, someone may believe you. Repeat something often enough, and lo and behold it becomes the truth...
 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
Msg: 366
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 1:17:08 PM
All one needs to do is read your posts, take your response to the Buddist for example, to see you present both aspects. That is, of course, assuming your posts havent been deleted for trolling as they so often are.

Just pointing out, your own actions display the duality that you deny.
 LottaBottle

Joined: 6/23/2005
Msg: 367
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 1:19:27 PM
no further comment...
 ~Enchantress~

Joined: 7/12/2005
Msg: 368
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 5:49:50 PM

Yet the Wiccans claim we have to balance the two..Ever seen a balance type of weigh scale..A little either side and the arm swings quite quickly to the dominant side..


Not a bad comparison actually, the balance does not come easy, only through work, study and comparison between the two can we decide which is of light, and which is of dark. Perhaps you are right, I know that there are many Wiccan "scales" that are off balance just as many Christian ones are. The difference is we recognize the difference, we understand that perfection isn't for us. So we just keep trying to better ourselves, the best we can.
 sidheanwwyn

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 369
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 8:13:40 PM
gods save us from bad analogies... the scale thing is an example of a bad analogy. even the dimmest bulb can tell that people are not purely one way or another, and are not at all times or in all situations the same. have you ever heard of the concept that opposites require each other and contain each other? look up the hermetic principles if you haven't, as i really don't feel like doing that much typing.

did that guy actually follow the jesus and the trees parable with that? apparently he didn't even understand the point of the story. it is NOT saying that people are either all good or all bad, but rather that you can tell the nature of a person from their actions - the "fruit" that they bear.

apparently he doesn't know how a scale works either. unless you severely unbalance them, and do it suddenly, they will not swing quickly. if that does happen, there will be a new equilibrium established in time unless the imbalance is too great.

duh.
 smoochiepooches

Joined: 3/2/2005
Msg: 370
Is It Sin To Be Wiccan ?????
Posted: 7/19/2005 9:26:16 PM
Lotta,


no further comment...


Socal, just wondering was that a first for Lotta ????
I got a goooooooood chuckle out of that one , Thanks, Lotta!!!!
Smoochie
 fitman2005

Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 371
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is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 7/1/2006 8:48:41 PM
My reply to this would be : Of course!! Using the word of God as the authority on the matter we find in Deuteronomy 18 verses 9 thru 13 the following passage:

" When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observe of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God."

I have met persons claiming to be of the "high Priestess" order in the Wiccan coven group. They claim to be in contact with entities which they themselves admittedly are fearful of. They also claim to cast healing spells and the like. I do not put much stock in the "good witch" "bad witch" philosophy either. God tells us that all witchcraft is an abomination in his sight!!
 Druie

Joined: 3/16/2006
Msg: 372
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is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 7/2/2006 8:45:48 PM
That very tolerant, taking such a stance.

Does this mean that Hindus and Buddists and Taoists are also sinful? These religions pre-date Christianity and are thriving quite nicely.
 fitman2005

Joined: 8/18/2005
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is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 7/3/2006 10:18:04 AM
hi- wait a minute.. I'm basing this on what God's word has to say on the subject..using this as the authority. The old testament scriptures have stood the test of time. We know this because they predict events thousands of years before they occur. Therefore we know it to be true!!

Also, I would add that being Wiccan or Taoist or Buddist or Mason or Catholic or murderer or thief or good guy or gal are not conditions that God will ultimately judge as to where we will spend our eternity. Did not a thief on the cross with Christ enter into paradise with him the same day?? Why was that? The question we should be asking isn't- "is stealing bad or a sin??" but rather, "wow!! How can God do that- allow him into Heaven with him??

God's word tell us in Romans 3:23-25 " For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

So you see, God declares us all as sinners!! Then he sends Jesus Christ to earth as a sacrafice for these sins.......but why did he have to??

It's due to the fact that we are all born in a "sinful condition" or a "spiritual death" sentence that carried over from Adam.

Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,for that all have sinned:"

Then it goes on to say speaking of Christ- verse 19 " For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Jesus Christ is referred to in the bible as the "last Adam, because of his role in this "sin" issue.

It tells us in chapter ten ,verse 4, that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth.

Jesus Christ is the answer to the "sin" problem.. he told a religious leader of his time- John 3:3 " Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." By this, he was speaking of our inward spritual condition.
 Druie

Joined: 3/16/2006
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is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 7/3/2006 10:56:14 AM
this is going to sound cheeky and blasphemous... he's not my god.
 Good God Girl

Joined: 7/16/2009
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satan again?
Posted: 11/2/2009 6:07:46 PM
right on songsofzion
My mother had given us a Bible when my son was born. I don't usually use it because it is one of those huge 'Family Bibles". In it I found several pages of 'things to say to a person who says...', when you are trying to bring someone to the truth.. I am happy to have found it and have found it very useful when confronted with this subject. Particularly those who believe their deeds are enough. They don't understand that faith is the ticket. Not deeds. Not need. Also when they believe that if they have a good heart it doesn't matter what they worship. A fatal error.
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