| is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 5/7/2005 12:35:31 AM | I have a theory.
I don't know much about Wicca, but from what I understand, they believe in an "Earth Mother". There may be a bond between Christainity and Wicca that has been overlooked.
God created Adam from the "Earth". Therefore earth would be the mother. The human form came from Earth and the spirit came from God. The same thing happens in sexual reproduction. The spirit (or sperm) is born in the father but it needs the mother to give it a human body to survive.
So to keep it simple, the Wiccan belief in an "Earth Mother" is supported by the book of Genesis.
Now, before I'm harshly judged by either side, (I'm hear to date, not fight) I'd like to say that I'm a very traditional Pentecostal but I also recall Jesus saying "Those who are not against us are for us."
As far as Wicca being a sin; A wise man knows when to say, "I just don't know".
Intriguing thread though. | |
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craww
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Joined: 2/16/2005
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/7/2005 3:49:26 PM | zion,
during the time of moses and the nation of israel, the whole rest of the world was not led by the appointed leadership of israel.
some followed love and truth......... others selfishness and power.
the universe has many truths to be learned and practiced, it's not all demon stuff.
karmah is real........ jesus called it ''you reap what you sow''.
the powers of the universe that you may try to understand are not all demon stuff.
jesus walked on water... healed people.
love is at the root of all that.
you want to preach jesus........... but jesus is love, god is love........ the powers of the universe have to do with love....... yes i know, the demons have gotten into everything.........did you know they have gotten into all the churches as well?
for those ''called'' to the word in the bible, who know it......... it will speak to them.
for those not called to it, practicing love and the laws of love in the universe will work.
in the end, when jesus returns in power and glory........all those on the side of light, truth, and love will recognise it, and follow him. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/7/2005 6:56:47 PM | No, being a wiccan is not bad, neither is being a christian, buddist, hindu, or any other religion for that matter, as long as you are not hurting others, and are applying kindness to your life. We all go to the same place from wence we came, and "God/Goddess" is the same diety for all of man, just different names. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/8/2005 4:07:38 AM | I think it is.. As a Christian anything that is not of GOD is against him.. So you either stand for him or against him..
I agree it can be very self destructive.. I wouldn’t look down on someone for it but I wouldn’t agree with it either and if I said it was not a sin I would be a liar to what I understand and know. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/8/2005 4:17:47 AM | | alright, craww, i made up my mind. i definitely like the way you think sometimes. your responses in this thread took me by surprise - pleasantly. | |
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craww
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Joined: 2/16/2005
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/8/2005 7:10:45 AM | god is love,....the powers of love in the universe are from god....... all those on the side of love, truth, and light are not against god.
jesus had power by means of love.
many churches preach jesus....... but they are not on the side of love, they are on the side of greed, power, domination, selfishness, self-importance and getting the money......... i see them on the tv, ranting and raving on the stage, claiming ''holy spirit''.
jeus gave an illustration once....... he said one person readily agreed to do the father's will,
but didn't do it, ........the other person refused, but did it........ which one was more righteous? | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/8/2005 11:20:59 AM | the other eperson said they would not do it but later did.. if i am not mistaken.. the one that lied was wronge.
Jesus also had his means of power becasue he was GOD in the flesh and had faith that it would happen.. he did things out of love like obeyed the father. | |
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Joined: 4/11/2005
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| is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 5/8/2005 11:44:55 AM | Of course not! If Wicca appeals to you and makes you happy, then it's right for you. You are an adult? Don't keep your chosen religion a secret from your parents any longer. Tell them, they might be more understanding than you think.
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| is it sin to be a wiccan?
Posted: 5/8/2005 5:43:46 PM | technically speaking in the eyes of christianity, isn't it obvious that being a wiccan is a sin???
you will burn in hell for it should you die unrepentent...
isn't this what the word of god undeniably states??
it is cut and dried.
you would be worshipping false idols, breaking a comandment... yes???
if you were to reword the question, the answer might be a more reasonable one.
like... is it harmful... is it wrong... is it damaging/deviant/deplorable?
or is it beneficial or spirit/life enhancing... is it rewarding... is it positive?
or harder still... will your parents blow a gasket, or accept your choices..
... will it be better/diplomatic/fair to risk telling them truthfully then to live a lie?
... do they even understand what exactly is involved in your belief system?
i can only imagine the answer is yes, but by definition it is a null value, to your beliefs...
it is to those who the "yes" answer would inflict disharmony upon, which will be impacted by the narrow-mindedness of thier own belief system... to them your soul is damned. | |
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craww
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Joined: 2/16/2005
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| the son of man
Posted: 5/8/2005 6:07:40 PM | power because he was god?........ the son of man was flesh...the word became flesh, a man.
he was ministered to in the wilderness for forty days and nights by angels who taught him...... then his ministry started.......he had understanding of who he was and what he was doing...........his power came from the truth of his accurate understanding of things.
he was the first........ a leader, a king who showed the way.
the word became flesh, and dwelt among us. | |
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| the son of man
Posted: 5/9/2005 5:21:35 PM | | wan't the flood suposed to be for forty days and forty nights??? | |
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craww
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| the son of man
Posted: 5/9/2005 5:40:19 PM | elvin,
the pharisees condemned jesus for healing people on the sabboth.
today christians condemn people for understanding the powers of love in the universe.
ya, it rained forty days........ moses was in the wilderness for 40 years with jethro the priest, married to his daughter. | |
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| the son of man
Posted: 5/9/2005 8:00:51 PM | some of your posts seem to be very well spoken, and delightful to read craww...
would you please indulge me in going into detail about this comment...
the pharisees condemned jesus for healing people on the sabboth.
today christians condemn people for understanding the powers of love in the universe | |
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craww
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Joined: 2/16/2005
Msg: 40 | |
| the son of man
Posted: 5/9/2005 10:02:14 PM | jesus understood the law and god,........ that's why he was healing people, even on the sabbath........he was bringing them to god........yet all the pharisees knew was how to quote scripture and law, ''no working on the sabbath''.
today many christians know how to quote scripture...
but if they see a wiccan or non christian healing someone with love, they claim it's the devil.
they kick you in the head with scriptures.... screaming jesus jesus jesus.
yet, when they spot love, they claim it's the devil.
there are laws, forces in the universe that are manipulated by energy, love.
that's why all humankind must learn and practice love to continue on in this universe.
love is the force that can control the universe....... it is set up that way.
god is love. | |
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| the son of man
Posted: 5/10/2005 2:54:20 PM | amen bruther :)
very well spoken | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/10/2005 10:40:55 PM | "i see them on the tv, ranting and raving on the stage, claiming ''holy spirit''."
Why such bigoted statements about Pentecostals?
You're preaching so much love and then throwing out a slur with every post. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/10/2005 11:29:51 PM | | ^^^he never mentioned pentecostals. you're being paranoid, but if the shoe fits... | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/10/2005 11:44:59 PM |
I don't know much about Wicca, but from what I understand, they believe in an "Earth Mother". There may be a bond between Christainity and Wicca that has been overlooked.
The Judeo/Christian tradition doesn't deny the existance of other 'gods' or 'powers', but one of the commandments is that you shouldn't worship anything other than God Almighty. Even if the Earth Mother were to manifest herself in front of you, according to the Judeo/Christian tradition, it would be a transgretion to bow to her. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/11/2005 1:02:29 AM | | ^^^how's this for a twist? the word in the old testament that's translated as "god", singular masculine pronoun, is the sanskrit word "elohim". "elohim" is a plural noun that has no gender, so it SHOULD be translated as "it", "them", "they", or "gods and goddesses". dig that. that's just one example of deliberate mistranslation in the bible. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/11/2005 2:44:07 PM | "he never mentioned pentecostals. you're being paranoid, but if the shoe fits.."
If the shoe fits? Do you even know any Pentecostals or is that just second hand predjudice?
I don't think Wicca is a sin. I think different faiths are good supplement to each other. But obviously, I'm the only one who feels that way.
Well no matter. I said I wasn't here to fight. If you guys want to attack and belittle someone who only got involved in this thread to show tolerance and try to win the same, then go ahead.
I'm going to the humor forum for a laugh. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/11/2005 6:19:46 PM | | once again, no one mentioned pentecostals. paranoia is often a sign of a guilty conscience. why else would you assume they were talking about you? | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/11/2005 8:05:56 PM |
"elohim" is a plural noun that has no gender
I believe the reasoning for the 'mistranslation' is the fact that, since God is all-encompassing, He is naturally a plural entity. The Jewish people used to have over 1,000 names for the single God.
Either that, or it could be the equivalent of the Royal We. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/12/2005 6:39:18 AM | | ^^^yer missing the point, which was "deliberate mistranslation". guess you also didn't see the actual translation. mistranslation was to remove the feminine aspect. | |
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| satan again?
Posted: 5/12/2005 10:22:37 AM | | ah woops, forgot one point: Elohim is indeed a masculine plural. In hebrew there's no such thing as an asexual plural. If a word ends in 'im' it's masculine, if it ends in 'ot' it's feminine. Though in Hebrew, as in English, a masculine plural is often used to encompass a group of both sexes. Example, Yeladim means 'students' and can mean male and female students. | |
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