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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/10/2008 11:43:42 PM |
Leanne, Do you find it a far stretch to imagine media images swaying women to want to look a certain way? Dress in certain clothes or buy certain products? Media sways our "preferences" every day in a multitude of ways. Few people would challenge the fact that media portrayal of beauty has spawned an epidemic of eating disorders in women and some men. Surely they are not all spineless idiots?
If you can accept that, then it's not a far stretch at all to realize that the standard of beauty that's been etched into our minds from birth has created a situation in which, for the vast majority of Americans and increasingly the rest of the world, black women are seen as less than beautiful.
I know that there are exceptions to this, there always are. But I will continue to emphasize this important fact: The exceptions do not disprove the rule.
And the rule is that HUGE percentages of black women do not marry or partner because the vast majority of available men are looking elsewhere. The question is... why?
This has nothing to do with anything that's wrong with black women. It's entirely to do with the steady diet the rest of us are fed that tell us what's beautiful and what's not. There are MANY studies that back this up.
In the meantime, when black women mention this issue, which IS a huge issue, by the way, they get to listen to white folks tell them that if only they had better attitudes things would be different for them. That is wrong. This is not something black women have brought on themselves.
As for the older black women who become upset when black men continually choose white women over black women, maybe that wouldn't be such a slap in the face if men of other ethnicities were beating their doors down to be with them, but they're not.
This is going to be an over simplification, but I'm happy to share links to more information if you'd like. In our countries history, people who had a huge vested interest in maintaining the institution of slavery perpetuated images of black men and women that persist to this day. That of the de-sexualized black woman and the hyper-sexualized black man were devices used to drive a wedge between black men and women and make them more easily controlled. These images are still around us but anyone my age or older can remember cartoons in which the images were more blatant.
Pay attention to the ways that black women are portrayed in media and you will see this. Black women that are seen as beautiful in our society tend to be those that are lighter skinned, have straightened hair, more caucasian features, thinner, and so on. The more closely a black woman approaches a white standard of beauty, the more beautiful men think she is. (think Tyra Banks)
It's very easy to choose not to look more closely at a problem when it doesn't personally affect you.
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/11/2008 12:10:06 AM | However, all is not lost. So much is possible on the individual level, even if institutionally racism can still show up as a challenge in the lives of people of color. I've gotten messages from guys of all ethnicities on POF and went out on a few dates. (They were all great guys, but no sparks.)
I'm learning to embrace love in whatever form it comes in. I have no qualms with whoever dating whoever for whatever reason. I used to get upset when I'd pass a black man walking with a white woman and treating her like a fetish object / trophy. But you know what....I want to be someone's prize too! And not just in a "look at the hot woman on my arm" kinda way, but genuinely cherished for who I am. And I get the impression that that's what everyone wants deep down. Whether that black man on the street is dating a blonde out of internalized hatred (i.e. doesn't matter who she is as a person, as long as she's white), or dating a blonde cuz he actually loves that particular blonde, he's just doing the best he thinks he can with what he thinks he has. And either way it's ultimately of no consequence to me as an individual, so why fret over it? | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/11/2008 9:56:33 PM | Wow! This thread has been going on for over a year and appears to have been the cause of many cases of elevated blood pressure. I read it for the 1st time today (skipping many pages I must confess) and I feel compelled to add my 2 and a half cents. At first I thought, what can I say that hasn't been said a hundred times. But the topic is too close to home not to say anything. I'm a white woman, (if Italian is still counts as white). I married a black man 20 years ago, when according to some of you, it was taboo to do. We were together 14 years including 2 years of dating. Most of those years were a nightmare mind you but it had nothing to do with his blackness or my whiteness. It was our personalities that caused our mariage to fall apart. My experienc of living in the GTA was and raising 2 children of mixed race was very uneventful. Yes, I we got the odd looks, more of curiosity than hostility. I did get the daggers from black women on a few occassions. In those occasions, I shrugged it off. What could I do about someone else's ignorance? I've never been one to worry or care what other people think. Some see it as arrogance. Being raised an Italian child in Toronto , I saw it as survival. It seemed to me that that was all Italians thought of was what other people thought and it was paralizing. So at an early age I decided I didn't give a rats ass what anyone thought. Neither my ex nor I were the type to look for negativity and perhaps I encountered lots more hostility than I was aware of. If I wasn't aware of it it didn't affect me. My children are perfectly normal, well adjusted, teenagers that drive me crazy and turn my hair prematurely gray. They have dated a mixture of races including oriental. Often I will ask one of their friends about their racial background and most of them are so mixed that they rhyme off a dozen different nationalities and races. My children proudly call themselves Jamalian (Jamaican-Italian), or as Russel Peters puts it... Pastafarians. They revcl in their mixed heritage. It makes them feel special or unique. The moral of this story .... or what I'm trying to say is that YES.... racism exists in Toronto, but I think its the best damn place in the world to live....(except for the weather of course). You will encounter IGNORANCE wherever you go under every guise imaginable. Its your decision how or whether you let it affect your life. IF you ignore ignorance, it will find you anyways now and then. If you look for it around every corner it will find you for sure and make your life hell. Hows that for an optimistic thought?
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/13/2008 6:17:24 PM | msg 176 I didn't address that quoted post before but I will now! I'm in a mood! What a bunch of condescending BS!! Yup BS!! Blah blah blah!!! I will not and do not believe that people are so ignorant as to be swayed by media to desire one race over another. That crap is embeded in their personal upbringing ! Anyone with half a brain - who is capeable of free thought - can make their own decisions about who they will be attacted to or not!! It's so easy to point fingers! I don't know when people will start getting that 'It's the merit of the person' and 'not the colour of their skin' that allows them to get along in this world! Sorry but I believe that a positive attitude will bring you futher than you could ever imagine! Black - white - purple - green or polka dot!!! Rise above any and all things that you may feel hold you down - move onward! Now flame on!! I'm sure this thread will get dragged out for at least another year!! | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/14/2008 10:30:02 AM |
I will not and do not believe that people are so ignorant as to be swayed by media to desire one race over another.
Believe that if it gives you comfort but study after study shows otherwise. Anyone who cares to take the time to do even the most basic research into this matter will discover that.
Sorry but I believe that a positive attitude will bring you futher than you could ever imagine! Black - white - purple - green or polka dot!!!
How naive and what blame the victim garbage. Only a White peron has the luxury of having such a Polyanna rose tinted glasses world view.
I suppose that all the Black people who were carried off into slavery, lynched and discrminated against during the Jim Crow era had negative attitudes. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/14/2008 6:19:32 PM |
Anyone who cares to take the time to do even the most basic research into this matter will discover that.
Well... I took the time.
Hate Crimes Are Multicultural, Too By David Horowitz
(continued) The fact is that it is not okay in America to hate blacks, but it is okay in our politically correct culture to hate white people. Entire academic departments and college curricula are based on this idea. White people are the oppressors of minority communities and cultures. That is Americas true legacy. There is even an academic field of "whiteness studies" to parallel black studies and womens studies. But the parallel is an inverted one. Blacks are celebrated in black studies and women are championed in womens studies. But whiteness studies (notice how the adjective has been modified) are devoted to the subject of how whites construct the idea of race to enable them to oppress others. Whiteness-studies academics have their own magazine published out of Cambridge, Massachusetts, site of Harvard and MIT and one of the most liberal communities in America. The name of the magazine is Race Traitor, and its motto proclaims "Treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity." Under the influence of the left, our universities have become purveyors of racial poisons, but the rest of the country cannot notice this, because the targets of the hatredwhitesare not politically correct victims.
Hollywood understands this rule of progressive etiquette. A new film, American History X, will for the umpteenth time feature white neo-Nazis as the villains of a homily about racial bigotry. The idea is that race hatred is synonymous with "skin-heads" who are white. But a few years ago a sensational mass-murder trial in Miami spotlighted a black cult leader named Yahweh Ben Yahweh, who required his cult members to kill whites and bring back their ears as proof of the deed. There was no Hollywood scramble for the rights to the Yahweh cult story, andpartly as a resultfew Americans are even aware that it ever took place. Last week a German tourist was shot to death in Santa Monica, California, in front of his wife and children. The trigger for the killing seems to have been his failure to understand the English commands of his attackers. The crime was committed by two African-American men and one African-American woman, though one would never know this from reading the Los Angeles Times or AP accounts. (I had to verify their racial identities by calling the Santa Monica police department directly.) The word "hate crime" never surfaced in connection with the deed, either in the press accounts or in editorial commentaries that followed. Now suppose that three whites had gone to a Hispanic neighborhood to rob inhabitants and had murdered an Hispanic immigrant because he could not speak English. Does anyone imagine that the press accounts would hide the identity of the attackers or that the question of whether it might be a hate crime would never come up?
According to US Department of Justice figures, in 1993 there were 1.4 million violent crimes of inter-racial violence nationwide. Eighty-five percent of them were committed by blacks against whites. A white is fifty times more likely to be the victim of a violent crime committed by a black person than the other way around. Not surprisingly, the first hate-crime conviction to be appealed to the Supreme Court involved a black perpetrator and a white victim. The politically righteous, who are pushing the current legislation, will be in for some surprises should the law they are proposing go into effect.
The bottom line is that anyone who wants to hate and disapprove of interacial dating will do so. It's apparent some people are totally against interracial relationships for no good reason at all. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/14/2008 6:43:11 PM | MYI you must pring the source so that people can verify it and determine if it's credible. Your post is not relevant to the discussion we were having. We were talking about the impact of media messages and images on:
- what men find attractive - how women feel about themselve
So, no you have not even started the most basic research.
The bottom line is that anyone who wants to hate and disapprove of interacial dating will do so. It's apparent some people are totally against interracial relationships for no good reason at all.
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/15/2008 8:46:35 AM | From: How many interracial marriages would there be if all groups were of equal size in all places? A new look at national estimates of interracial marriage. Harris and Ono 2004.
Homogamy is most common for white husbands, white wives, and black wives. More than 95 percent of people from each of these three groups have same-race spouses. At the other extreme are Asian women, who as a group form only about two-thirds of their marital unions with Asian men. This high level of exogamy for Asian women contrasts with patterns for Asian men, who are 1.2 times more likely than Asian women to marry an Asian, and only 60 percent as likely to marry a white person. Similar gender interactions are evident for blacks, albeit in the opposite direction. Black men are substantially more likely than black women to marry outside their race. They are 2.7 times more likely than black women to have a white spouse, and 4.3 times more likely than black women to marry an Asian.
A bit of context. This is just a descriptive text based on 1990 US census data on marriage, so it's a bit out of date. Also, the point of the article was about considering local vs. global demographic distributions and marriage markets, not about the actual ratios themselves. However, the raw data shows that certain race-sex combinations are more likely to out-marry than others.
Some more stats from the data - marriages involving.. black wives: 16673 black husbands: 17668 asian wives: 6441 asian husbands: 5437
Assuming approximately equal male/female sex ratios, the difference in outmarriage rates necessarily correspond to differences actual marriage rates. I think it's fair to extrapolate this to dating as well as actual marriage at about the same rate. Anyway, what this boils down to is that there are excess black women and asian men on the dating/marriage market without partners. It's not much of a stretch to see how something like this would make singles on the weak side of the equation a little bit upset. Of course none of this tells us WHY the ratios are the way they are, although I'm sure there are studies that try to explain that as well.
The obvious other conclusion is that black women should be dating asian men. If you hash out the numbers, the shortfalls are just about the same magnitude. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/15/2008 6:14:20 PM |
MYI you must pring the source
Read the title of the article... read the authors name... then copy/paste into "Google". It's not rocket science.
Your post is not relevant to the discussion we were having
You've varified this before. It's obvious when you don't want to hear the truth (karma) you revert back to the discussion "you want"... not what the OP wants. The topic is about black women being against interracial relationships... the topic isn't about you and your friends who dislike certain people. "Interracial" is not a white and/or asian phenomenon..... interracial is a global spectrum.... including areas where the media lacks the ability to brainwash others - like yourself.
So, as far as the topic goes, I think you strayed from it a long time ago. In fact, you never gave a valid reply to the the OP's question other than to trash talk "most" north american white men and asian men who were born in Canada.
We were talking about the impact of media messages and images on:
- what men find attractive - how women feel about themselve
So, no you have not even started the most basic research
^^^^ Again.... that's not the thread topic.
For your amusement:
Re: Media influence? You seem to use a lot of media influence to validate/support your opinions. **things that make me go Hmmmmmm... brainwashed - or not?***
On topic:
I think many black women are against interracial relationships because of the media influence. It's obvious when a person uses data to explain why they "personally" are against such a thing. As well, the fact that they can claim nobody knows what it is like if they are not a black woman but....as a black woman, knows what white men think, obviously, permits media to cloud their common sense. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/19/2008 4:43:48 PM | I just polled (independently of each other) a couple of my white friends who are here (on PoF) why they dont write to black women. They both said they use to. But 1. Black women dont even write back to acknowledge your msg. 2. They still have the attitude that white men just want them for sex.
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| Dating and Colorful Womyn Posted: 7/21/2008 1:17:23 PM |
thesecretofjoy Msg: 122... The exceptions do not disprove the rule.
False. Not completely false, but false nonetheless. Let me explain. I think it is fair to say we are immersed in a scientific cultural mindset. To say so is to say that we make observations, generalize from those observations and derive expectations from our generalizations. When our generalized expectations are challenged by a new observation that does not fit, we form what is called an exception. An exception is rationalized as a unique observation. Insofar as the number of exceptions remains small and the exceptions have a reasonable rationale, this is not deemed to challenge our generality. However, as the number of exceptions rise, the validity of the generalization comes into question. So, one exception will not disprove "the rule" but many exceptions will indeed cast doubt on "the rule."
For example, saying that the "more closely a black woman approaches a white standard of beauty, the more beautiful men think she is. (think Tyra Banks)" is an acknowledgement of an exception. How do you explain Grace Jones? Imman? The list of very black women that are included among the heighest ranks of the beautiful people is not all that short. I'm sure further rationalization is possible, always. However, at some point all the rationalizing leads to a position which consists of a generalization that more often then not is false and weighted down with a mass of exceptions. Any reasonable person would then question the generalization.
Leeanne Msg: 179... I will not and do not believe that people are so ignorant as to be swayed by media to desire one race over another. That crap is embeded in their personal upbringing !
It is a lot more complicated than either side tends to admit. I don't think anyone needs to provide evidence that media presentations influence behavior and attitudes. The problem lies in the massive number of influences out there and the consequent options for the sort of influence attention to media will produce. And, of course, media presentations can also be reflective. With respect to issues of preferences and notions of beauty, it is known that they change over time. The norm tends to be what is identified as beautiful but the norm constantly changes. To some extent media plays a dual role here. On one hand media presentations tend to reflect existing norms. On the other hand, media presentations influence the norms.
Leeanne Msg: 179... Sorry but I believe that a positive attitude will bring you futher than you could ever imagine!
almondcookie Msg: 180... How naive and what blame the victim garbage. Only a White peron has the luxury of having such a Polyanna rose tinted glasses world view.
Not true. Try it sometime. Attitude does matter. It matters just as much in business relations as it does in personal relations. A positive attitude turns barriers into obstacles.
starfun7 Msg: 185... Black women dont even write back to acknowledge your msg.
Come now. At any given time, there is a whinning thread somewhere on the POF forums by a guy complaining that women don't write back to acknowledge his messages. No response probably means not interested. I have had the experience but I have never understood why some guys take it so badly. It probably means they have attached too much meaning to just contacting someone. One thing I have never noticed in such whinning threads is racial profiling. Generally, the women least likely to respond are the ones most likely to be contacted regardless of skin tone or other factors.
starfun7 Msg: 185... They still have the attitude that white men just want them for sex.
Okay. If I had a dollar for everytime I've been asked: "Have you ever been with a black woman?" when starting out contact, I could probably buy -- something expensive. However, if you have ever taken the time to meander through a selection of profiles here, you wouldn't think it is an attitude exclusive to or even predominantly related to a woman's skin color -- or that of the man.
B-DancerM Msg: 186... granted I also think the majority of men irrespective of race are just out for sex!
Alas, that's a tough position to argue against. LOL! Honestly, I doubt that's entirely true either.
Heart_chakra Msg: 177... I used to get upset when I'd pass a black man walking with a white woman and treating her like a fetish object / trophy. But you know what....I want to be someone's prize too!
That answers the original post rather succinctly. If there is a reason that a black and white couple would get more focus than others on a given street it probably has to do with the contrast that makes them stand out. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/21/2008 3:25:16 PM | Oscat, I had the same negative reactions from black women when I was in a LT relationship with my ex-boyfriend who is white.
All I can say is that hate breeds hate, and that a lot of the time black women give other black women bad looks because they are taught at an early age that interracial relationships are "wrong" (such a twisted view). CC. | |
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| Dating and Colorful Womyn Posted: 7/22/2008 12:44:55 AM | almondcookie Msg: 180... How naive and what blame the victim garbage. Only a White peron has the luxury of having such a Polyanna rose tinted glasses world view.
True. However, attempting to explain the concept of white privilege to certain white people is like attempting to explain the concept of water to a fish. The poster of msg 179 seems to believe that it's possible to grow up in an environment where you're bombarded with the stench of racism (or any other ism for that matter) and yet NOT breathe the air. Thank goodness for folks like Tim Wise who have the patience to take on the task of explaining to white people how racism negatively affects them in terms of the depths of their denial. I don't have the patience for that kind of back and forth with folks who are willfully ignorant and simply refuse to see. I've accepted that many white folks (particularly in America) just don't get it and never will when it comes to race and that's okay.
Ralph42 Msg: 187 ...Attitude does matter. It matters just as much in business relations as it does in personal relations. A positive attitude turns barriers into obstacles.
Also true. However, as much as I tout the value of personal responsibility, it's disingenuous to pretend like the barriers aren't systematic and consciously targeted toward entire groups of people. | |
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| Dating and Colorful Womyn Posted: 7/24/2008 7:06:42 AM | | The last relationship I was in was with a woman of colour and it was the first time dating a black lady. I must admit I took it slow at first but within a month I didn't care about the odd stare or what anyone thought, she was a wonderful lady. We would constantly try to outdo each other making each other happy and it was one of the best dating experiences of my life. Now I have no interest in dating white woman and am drawn to either black or mixed race woman. We as humans have a long way to go we can put a man on the moon, send satellites beyond our gallaxy, cure diseases but considering that everybody human on this planet our DNA is at least 98% the same we sure seem to have a long way to go. A great easy reading book on the evolution and future of the human animal is..The Third Chimpanzee By Jared Diamond . | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 7/31/2008 12:36:05 AM | | Well, this black woman for sure doesnt care about black men dating interracially. I prefer to date interracially (white men), therefore I think it would be hypocritical on my part, if I were to be against interracial dating. I think we are all free to date whoever we want, no matter what the person's race or colour is. Ironically, most of the time when Ive gotten negative stares and comments for dating white men, its black American men who are the main critics.... Im Nigerian and I dont see why someone from another culture should spell out that they dont approve of me dating interracially..... Im a grown woman, so I dont think ANYONE should tell me who or who not to date. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/1/2008 9:42:03 AM | Give me a break "tolerant melting-pot" city of Toronto. Just because there are people arriving from every part of the globe doesn't mean that their attitudes and beliefs change because they changed their address. Tolerance simply means we all put up with each others BS because we have to. I've been hearing this crap since I moved to Ontario from Montreal 15yrs. ago, where I may add, I saw people of every nation and interacial relationships my whole life before I ever came to Ontario. My whole family is mixed with just about every race you can think of. Take a trip to Montreal sometime, you'll be suprised to see all shades of people. Please, there have been people of all colours in Canada / USA for hundreds of years. And many have mixed with other races since the discovery of these great nations. I'm mixed, my father is white my mother is black, I'm 41yrs. old. My great, great, great, great grandparents (black) we're in Canada along with everyone else wearing cowboy boots and doing the two step. Perhaps, because Toronto is so new to the game there are many people here (not only black / white) that are not truly integrated into North American society. For example ask anyone in Toronto first generation Canadian what their nationality is, I guarantee you, they'll say anything other than Canadian. Perhaps, Toronto shouldn't be tolerant, perhaps the whole melting pot should be discarded, Toronto is part of Canada, where people have been coming for a long time. So, where did this melting pot crap come from anyway? Some, famous words by a Toronto Mayor to get the Olympics, in one breath, and racial slurs in another (Lastman). The focus should be on the people living in a society where we can make our own choices about who we want to be with. That is the gift we've all been given as Canadian citizens. Do what you think is right for yourself, who cares what those other goofs think. I don't care what colour you are, as long as you act right and suit my personal preferences. I'm Black, I'm White, I'm Canadian, and I'm free to do what I want, and I don't give a rats ass who tolerates me or not. This is my Country. So, all you tolerant people can go back where you came from. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/1/2008 9:49:12 AM | | Honestly, most women on this site don't acknowledge your message. The sex part, well I could understand why anyone would want to have sex with Black women. Black women are beutiful. But, being mixed myself I've had numerous relationships with Black women (long term). Can't say it was only for sex. But will say, the sex was good, but it also takes two to tangle, so don't think that's a black / white thing either. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/1/2008 9:57:44 AM | | Funny, I have this debate all the time. I think women need to be realistic and realize that in the 21st. century, there are just as many women out for sex as there are men. Men have to advertise the fact simply because women are the ones controlling who they are going to give sex to. Think of it, if men never asked for sex, they would never get any. Women don't even have to ask, because they hold the key to the kingdom. Just need to open the door. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/1/2008 3:06:20 PM | In answer your question without seeming negative; Toronto is a covertly racist city. Diverse, yes but far from being the image that we market to the world. As an African American from the deep south once opinioned. "y' all are so polite up here in T-Dot, but I see right through the facade"...in the south I know where I stand. I couldn't agree with that man, anymore. I too have been in various interracial relationships and was often dismayed after learning what people who I thought were my friends really think. Up here ya got racists calling racists racist...all in the name of political correctness. Personally, I'll take the truth that way I know where I stand... | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/10/2008 8:00:00 PM | | Right on Once A Knight. Strange that the perspective of those who come to Toronto from someplace else (like myself), can always see through the BS. Could it be that most Torontonians have never broadened their horizons and lived anywhere else in the World. I've yet to meet a "Black" person in Toronto in a position of "real" power. I've never been interviewed by someone with hiring authority, or who signs off on my paycheck. Can you believe that? At least in the US there are States that are run by Black mayors, and there are numerous Black CEO's running things. Your right on, at least you know where you stand when your in the US, here everone is your friend, and once you turn your back they call you a few things I can't say online. | |
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| Why aRe MORE Black Women Against Interracial RELATIONSHIPS? Posted: 8/11/2008 2:34:32 AM |
Could it be that most Torontonians have never broadened their horizons and lived anywhere else in the World. I've yet to meet a "Black" person in Toronto in a position of "real" power. I've never been interviewed by someone with hiring authority, or who signs off on my paycheck.
This is just my opinion, but I think you are mistakenly making this ("real" power) a racial issue and it shouldn't be. There is an underlying practise in this country that isn't talked about all that much. It's called the "Buddy system" and "Nepotism". It is prevelant in most every aspect of canadian business and also in Unions.
This country seems antiquated in many respects to "Power" positions" with employment opportunities. It's a buddy system that is not deliberately ignoring black people nearly as much as it is ignoring all who are not within certain circles.
If anyone has been watching the news about the C.A.W.'s way of selecting it's next President, I think you will learn rather quickly that "Democracy" is just a "Buzz word" and not relative to voting and freedom of choice. It doesn't matter what gender, colour, ethnicity you are. If you're not one of "Them", you are not going to gain any position of power/prestige/status. I've experienced this "buddy sytem" at local levels in unions. What unfolded regarding the new C.A.W. president does not surprise me in the least.
In my opinion, the issue of no black people being in power in this country is more relative to the "Buddy" system and "nepotism" rather than a race issue. I think you'll see that as being the case in many unions and corporations. | |
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