| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 10:50:19 AM | All I need is for a Nice, loving Lady to A s k me to quit . . and I W i l l ...!!!
No fights . .
No Whining . .
No Nagging . .
No Kidding . . !!! | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 11:15:10 AM | I lived with and was in a realationship with a non-smoker for 6 years. It got so ridiculous that I had to smoke in one room or outside in my own home that we shared.
I am not interested in dating a non smoker who is sensitive to smoke. I do find it odd that I get messages from men who clearly state on their profile that they don't want a smoker. Do they lose their minds when they find someone they think is good looking? OR do they actually think they can change me? | |
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Tigi73
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Joined: 8/28/2007
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 12:32:37 PM | I am a non-smoker. I don't particularly like smoking, actually it is a pet hate of mine, but each to their own. The fact that a guy smoked wouldn't put me off him  | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 12:57:35 PM | I tried it...the relationship with the smoker...several times. I DID try..very hard.
The first was an all-time love. I was crazy about him, and he was as respectful as he could be of my feelings. Smoked outside, never in the car with me, mouthwash, etc.
BUT..it still bothered me.
The smell, the taste (and guys, hate to break this to you all...you ARE what you eat, um, smoke..hehheh. ) really eroded our relationship...altho it was NOT the reason we ended it. And...If he HAD wanted to stop I would have truly encouraged him in any way that would have helped.
Ironically, sadly, it was the cigs that eventually killed him a few years ago. <sad>
Another BF smoked and smoked cigars also...owned a Cigar Store! (Yeah..I'm a glutton.)
No matter what he did, mouthwash,gum, etc. it was unpleasant. He was a neat guy but I really (visibly) recoiled when it came to deep kissing and love-making, and that WAS the catalyst for ending the relationship. He is now happily with a woman who smokes and LOVES a good cigar
I know it's doable in some cases, and one limits themselves in exempting an entire group...I am still open if the person was anxious to quit (for themselves) or was an occasional (meaning once in a rare while) smoker.
Never minded pipes tho...which is weird??? | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 2:46:01 PM | | Disgusting. Never smoked and never will. Smokers stink period. It is in their hair, clothes, and mouths and makes me want to puke. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 2:46:57 PM | | Disgusting. Never smoked and never will. Smokers stink period. It is in their hair, clothes, and mouths and makes me want to puke, ugh, gross, stinky house, stinky everything. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/14/2007 3:49:42 PM | | If a man is a smoker or a woman for that matter, they should post it and seek those who don't mind the habit. I am a smoker and never smoked inside the house. I am courteous to people who don't smoke, i think that it is the least we can do as smokers. But we shouldn;t have to be treated as second class to a non-smoker...Especially a non smoker who is an ex smoker. If a guy or gal, says they smoke, and you date them. You are accepting and making concessions from what you don't do yourself. Just think, he or she could be the one and you will never know. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/15/2007 6:26:02 AM | | I am a none smoker and i really dont like the habbit - but saying that the last 2 guys i dated were smokers and although i hated it i liked them so i was willing to put up with it - but they were at least respectfull when doing it so as not to annoy me. But in an ideal world i really would like my next relatioship to be with someone who doesnt smoke because it would make things so much easier, but its definatly not something i would reject anyone on!! | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/17/2007 12:27:31 PM | I'm a non smoker. It would be difficult dating a smoker again. I love kissing too much chewing gum only helps for so long... | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/17/2007 2:04:43 PM | | MY GAWD! Is this subject EVER going to get worn out?! Simple solution: If you're a non-smoker, don't date smokers and vice versa. But for pity's sake stop pi**ing and moaning about each other! Noise is pollution too, you know. Okay... so I can't "hear" you... but you're cluttering up an otherwise perfectly good piece of cyberspace with your BS issues. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/17/2007 2:18:45 PM | I say just quit, in fact, it should be your choice to smoke but accept that non smokers see it as a sickness.
In fact in Canada we give health insurance to smokers, I see it a bad risk, they want to smoke, cut them off or raise their rates by 10 times, as they are bad health risks.
Oh but your smoking goes to pay for your health care, this is false, one series of cancer treatments is a million lets say. 10 bucks a day pack , 20 years, 73,000 dollars.... Where does the rest come from ? Us the tax payers. I would support a governmetn program where they pay for y0ur quitting. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 7:21:53 PM | OK...over the years we find out second hand smoke affects your friends, partners,children & all yer pets...
Now? Recent studies? Dementia and Alzheimer's greater in smokers...sheesh.
Time to quit. Or raise your intake of antioxidants in your diet!
"Current smokers are 50 percent more likely to develop Alzheimer's disease or dementia than people who don't smoke or who gave up smoking, a Dutch report says.
Researchers announced these results after analyzing seven years of data from almost 7,000 people over age 55.
Over the course of the study, 706 people developed dementia. People who were smokers during the study were 50 percent more likely to develop dementia than people who had never smoked or were former smokers, according to the researchers, who published their findings in the Sept. 4 issue of Neurology.
Reality Check
"Smoking increases the risk of cerebrovascular disease, which is also tied to dementia," study author Dr. Monique Breteler, of Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, said in a prepared statement. "Another mechanism could be through oxidative stress, which can damage cells in the blood vessels and lead to hardening of the arteries. Smokers experience greater oxidative stress than nonsmokers, and increased oxidative stress is also seen in Alzheimer's disease."
Oxidative stress occurs when there are too many waste products from chemical reactions in the body. Dietary antioxidants can fight those waste products, known as free radicals, but Breteler said that smokers are also known to have fewer antioxidants in their diets than nonsmokers.
The researchers also studied the way that smoking affects the risk of Alzheimer's disease for people who carry the related gene. They found that smoking did not increase the risk for those with the gene for Alzheimer's disease, but it did increase the risk for people without the gene.
Current smokers without the gene were 70 percent more likely to develop Alzheimer's disease than nonsmokers or former smokers without the gene."
Surprised the Tobacco conglomerates didn't suppress this study.... | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 7:27:53 PM | Been interesting going through some of the profiles on the most vehement anti smokers. Most of them claim average to a few extra pounds when almost all of them should admit that they are in fact obese.
My point?
Obesity is the largest contributer to health concerns far out weighing (pun not intended but still funny) the smokers. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 7:47:38 PM | | News flash dreadstalker Obese people smoke too. Now I don't claim to be thin but my BMI is right where it needs to be. I do agree with you 100% on obesity. However, this is a smoking thread start one on obesity and I'll chime right in. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 7:59:31 PM | ^^^^ I ain't obese. Yet. (Oh but I DO love good foods)! But I can still blade miles and miles and still breathe...thankfully!
I am not vehement...just a realist. Don't mind occasional -Anything. (Alcohol, fats, smokes, reefer, etc.....in moderation.)
Addicted is....well...it's addicted. Period. Can't argue it.
Obesity...doesn't hurt anyone except the one carrying the weight.
Alcohol....yeppers. Unless you stay in your house...can be a disaster.
Smoke...see above. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.
ALL of the above costs all of us in increased insurance costs. Facts.
ALL contribute greatly to health concerns in our country.....
but only a couple directly affect ALL of us physically...just sayin.
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 8:08:13 PM | | islgirl one of the most common complaints about smokers, even on this thread is smell. Ever been around a obese person on even a mildly warm day? Talk about stink! | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 8:18:40 PM | Now Dread! STOP! That is sooooo mean! 
AND untrue...dunno Who you been hanging around over there in old Nebraska, but the "large" peeps I know, and have known, always smelled just fine and dandy. Socially speaking. Never had an "obese" lover but that's another thread.....
Got an idea...YOU start a thread on THAT one...see how long you live | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 8:44:37 PM | In case you all haven't noticed that was a comparison. Don't like the tables being turned?
Not surprising.
After all, smokers is one of those groups that everyone feels safe bashing.
Until they manage to open your eyes to what you are doing. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/27/2007 11:47:45 PM | I make it absolutely clear that if you don't like cigarette smoke or smokers or especially if "Must Not Smoke" is checked, don't make contact. I won't make contact with anyone who is a non-smoker. The last time I was here, I had quite a block list full of anti-smokers who wouldn't abide by my wishes. A few were trying to be helpful quoting anti-smoking lobby propaganda but most were just plain nasty. "It's a smelly habit" and "I don't want to be with someone who makes me stink" were the majority of comments.
In my real life, I don't smoke at my non-smoking friends houses or cars if they don't invite me to do so. Likewise, they know if they are in my house or my car, I'm going to smoke. The topic of how it smells or how bad it is/isn't for you never comes up. When going out, they go where I go, which means somewhere that allows smoking. No problems. From the looks of what I've read in this thread, I'm lucky to have the friends I have. Well, maybe not lucky because the anti's I run into are few and far between and usually don't want to get mouthy with me about it.  | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/28/2007 12:03:25 AM | "Surprised the Tobacco conglomerates didn't suppress this study.... "
They didn't have to. The majority of us who are not anti-smokers know these studies as well as polls that are done don't stand up. The Attorney General's report that is quoted so often has been debunked many times, in some cases by the anti-smoking lobby's own doctors and has been said to damage their credibility. Studies and polls are often skewed to get the wanted results. And the more a group seeks a result, the more likely they are to skew it. Again, something that is widely known as being done by the anti-smoking lobby.
Do a search on Dr. Michael Siegel, a doctor with 20 years of experience in tobacco control, primarily as a researcher. He's done the most to debunk these studies.
It goes to show, don't believe everything you read, especially when the person writing it is trying to take something away from you. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/28/2007 12:38:47 AM | My profile states I am a non-smoker. However, as someone that used to smoke and has quit. I know how hard it is to quit. I will not disregard any one for being a smoker.
However, drugs, and someone that drinks 3 or more times a week, now thats a deal breaker for me.
I quit in 1997. I did smoke for a little while when I filed for divorce 6 months ago. I guess it was just a emotional crutch. I drank a few beers, smoked some ciggs, cried alot. Then I got over it. I quit smokeing. I will have a beer every great once and while on a date. So you see I can understand more then the average non-smoker.
If someone is willing to overlook my flaws, then who am I to judge. I might miss out on a great person. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/29/2007 11:00:52 AM | Posted By: dreadstalker on 9/27/2007 7 53 PM
Subject: smokers dating non smokers!!!!
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My point?
Obesity is the largest contributer to health concerns far out weighing (pun not intended but still funny) the smokers.
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Yeah, but so what? Nobody ever got cancer from secondhand obesity. Fat people may injure themselves, but smokers who foul the air others need to breathe are aggressive jerks who injure others without their consent.
All smokers stink and they should all go live on some island far away where they will not drag the rest of us down with them. I hear there is plenty of room for them in the Falklands. Please, cigarette addicts, take your ashtray and go.
And just to stay on thread, let's be clear that anyone who dates a smoker must be nuts. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/29/2007 11:20:54 AM |
I am finding that I am stopping little by little. It isn't easy. I used to smoke a pack a day. I am down to less than half a pack a day. Honestly, I really enjoy smoking.
It is very hard to quit cold turkey. Sometimes I will smoke half a cigarette and put the other half away for later.
The less I smoke, the more I realize that it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
I know that there are many men who wouldn't even consider dating me because I smoke. We are all aware of the poisons in cigarettes. I suppose if I met someone who was worth it, I'd try much harder not to smoke.
Fact: Nicotine is more addictive than heroin I hear ya loud n' clear!!! I'm the exact same on this...my ex's mom, who is a dear friend of mine, took wellbutrin and quit, but I've tried the patch and other things and they just didn't work for me...slowing down on them has so far...but i really do enjoy it, though growing up I hated it....go figure!!! Still, if I met the right guy, and he couldn't handle it...heck yeah I'd stop cold turkey even if it nearly killed me. Think of the trade off, ya know? Luckily, I've been talking to a guy who also smokes...dunno if it will go anywhere or not(though I'm hoping it might) but if so, I at least know it won't be a problem. Heavy drinkers 9not those who just have one occasionally) are the ones that pose a problem for me. Don't want that around my kids. | |
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| smokers dating non smokers!!!!
Posted: 9/29/2007 2:43:23 PM | I don't find the point of someone who doesn't smoke being with a smoker...(you are bound to be measuring them in someway in the end..whether they smoke indoors, you're breathing it in, have what a non-smoker considers 1 too may fags in an evening..whether their hacking cough keeps partner awake...etc..etc..etc
or could i be wrong and the non-smoker cares about the smoker 'fags and all'-('as the wart treatment worked')
Can love be that un-conditional? | |
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