| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/12/2005 1:58:38 PM | The Lamerian text was made up by some geek in a jedi outfit living in his mother's basement.
The incas don't have any ancient text because the incas did not have a written language.
Spain got the name Mexico from the Aztecs who referred to themselves as Mexica (Meshica).
Mexico was not a part of Spain when American invaded it and forced Mexico to give up 1/3 of it's land at bargain rates.
The Mexicans that were living in the states had titles but they were ignored by the Americans that moved in and squatted on their tracts of land. The land was essentially stolen from the Mexican owners. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/13/2005 4:42:54 AM | The Incas aren't from Mexico anyhow. The Incas are from Peru which is in South America. And yes, we did murder, rape and pilfer Mexicans to get Arizona and New Mexico, besides taking some of their land illegally. It's the American way.
We all think we're so friggin high and mighty, because we're God's blessed Americans (which we are blessed), but have any of you gone to Mexico City and seen the outskirts of that city? (about same population as NYC, if not bigger.) Then you would know why they are flocking here and why the Mexican government pays Europeans to live in their country.
Besides, a lot of Colombians and Salvadorenos go into that country because it's easier (and cheaper) to get into Mexico and jump the border then going straight into the U.S.
Also since you're so worried about terrorists coming in from Mexico, from what I recall, the evidence showed the 9/11 terrorists coming in from our neighbor to the north. Possibly because Canada has more true "friends" than America does, but don't get me onto that topic. And for those of you who are wondering. I'm not Mexican, and I grew up in white society with white parents. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/14/2005 5:12:15 PM | Just because no terrorist has come from the south that we know of, doesn't mean they won't. If I were one of these religious wacjkos, I'd come through Mexico. Complete with the pamphlet that their govt. gives out to help the Mexicans sneak over.
Dragon- you got me on the pale face thing, my mistake. However, I'm still Indian. And I'm also English, Irish,, Dutch Welsh, Scotish (or scotch, depending on where you're at), French, German, and a small amount of Italian. But being that I was born on Oklahoma aka Jesus land, I'm a Native American. And I still maintain that I can't tell what you are. But sorry for the zing on the other, anyway. | |
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| Are Mexicans really going to take over California?
Posted: 5/15/2005 6:43:38 AM | MEXICO CITY - President Vicente Fox came under criticism Saturday after saying Mexicans were willing to take jobs "that not even blacks want to do in the United States."
http: //news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mexico_racial_comment | |
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| Are Mexicans really going to take over California?
Posted: 5/15/2005 7:20:27 AM | if mexicans would stop taking those jobs that none of us want then maybe those who employ those people would be forced to pay a decent wage and legal US citizens might consider doing that sort of work and if we don't step up to the plate then maybe those folks are in the wrong business. i can live without strawberries and i don't like veggies anyway!
while we're at it... let's continue allowing them to take our driving test in spanish despite all our road signs being in english. don't give them an incentive to learn our language and they won't.
don't give them a reason to come over here legally and they won't!
i urge all of you to go to the US census web site and read up on the alarming statistics. illegal immigration has polluted our country long enough and done irreparable damage to our schools, our neighborhoods, our citizens and our economy. and that billboard was just another slap in the face by those who have caused all the damage! | |
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| Is California really going to take over Mexico?
Posted: 5/15/2005 3:38:13 PM |
i urge all of you to go to the US census web site and read up on the alarming statistics. illegal immigration has polluted our country long enough and done irreparable damage to our schools, our neighborhoods, our citizens and our economy. and that billboard was just another slap in the face by those who have caused all the damage!
I agree. It's not a pretty sight. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/15/2005 4:37:26 PM | Squatting is exactly what we did to Mexico. Without all that squatting, the U.S. would be one skinny-ass piece of land to what it is today.
The intrusion didn't end then.
However, on immigration, if we were serious and slapped massive fines on all the corporations that run their business on being able to get immigrants to work for almost nothing, we'd have a hell of a lot less illegal crossings.
The problem isn't that. The problem is that U.S. corporations have been permitted to take their business abroad, so they can hire people for almost nothing. That's not just any business, it's such businesses as computer programming, engineering, science, customer service, you name it.
My opinion is that if a U.S. company can't pay a decent wage, and stay in business, it has no business BEING in business. No U.S. company should have been permitted to move abroad. Not one.
I think any products made by hands not American, need to be hit with a huge tariff. Think how nicely it would start taking care of the debt created by GW Bush, the companies would run on back to the U.S., and there'd be jobs everywhere.
What's more, it's not the immigrants that pick lettuce that are f*cking the most with our economy. I mean, I wouldn't want to pick lettuce any more than any of you would. It's the tens of thousands of Philipino nurses brought in to work here and given automatic visas, it's the tens of thousands of Indian computer programmers brought here and given automatic visas, it's the thousands of doctors brought in from other countries and given automatic visas, it's the countless professionals brought in from elsewhere for no reason, when there are perfectly capable people here who are looking for jobs, or who could be provided with incentives to fill those jobs. Instead, they provide those monetary incentives to people FROM OUTSIDE COUNTRIES to come here and take our jobs. No wonder there's a deficit of jobs. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/15/2005 6:08:00 PM | i totally see where you're coming from sari & that was the basic jist of my point regarding the strawberries. if you can't stay in business without hiring these people then you need to do something else for a living.
if we hit corp. america with huge tariffs, they'd have to be pretty huge to make up for all the loss we're suffering and the reason other contries allow us to outsource our business to them is because most of them need our money.
we should be hiring from "within", not issueing tens of thousands of visas per month in order to bring in cheap laborers. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/15/2005 7:36:14 PM |
i totally see where you're coming from sari & that was the basic jist of my point regarding the strawberries. if you can't stay in business without hiring these people then you need to do something else for a living.
if we hit corp. america with huge tariffs, they'd have to be pretty huge to make up for all the loss we're suffering and the reason other contries allow us to outsource our business to them is because most of them need our money.
we should be hiring from "within", not issueing tens of thousands of visas per month in order to bring in cheap laborers.
I definitely think so. Bring all the jobs back to the U.S. where they were. That's what we need to do. It's making me sick that our jobs are now in the hands of others simply because corporations have reached the height of greed or are frikkin' incompetent and can't run a corporation without hiring employees that are underpaid.
I say that if they want to sell products here, they should be taxed up the wazoo, or they sholuld bring back those companies and factories. No exceptions allowed. I think within no time at all, we'd see our economy get better for the poor and the middle class. (Which is measured by how many good job positions are out there).
That's another thing. I'm tired of the economy being measured by how rich the rich are getting. Look at Brazil. It's considered one of the best, strongest economies on earth and most of the country lives below the poverty level. When are economists going to stop bullshitting us with their fake statistics geared only to reflect how well the rich are doing? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 9:56:03 PM | | You're certainly hilarious. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/16/2005 7:15:19 PM |
ya sari... my neighbor just told me he may loose his electrical technical writing job because the company he works for is outsourcing to india. that's sad.
how many of you own dell computers? how many of you have had to call for tech support only to get someone you can't understand?
Citibank, AOL, all corporations are hiring abroad. I think if they sell their products here, they need to hire here. No exceptions should be allowed. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/16/2005 7:27:19 PM | obviously it would make sense to have employees in the same area where products are sold... that's not the issue. the issue is that US business is being outsourced to other countries to save large corporations billions of dollars.
for example... i work for a large automobile manufacturer... our corporate office in here in CA but we have offices all over the US, manufacture product and sell product throughout the US. we also manufacture product in other countries and sell them in those countries. we don't have our products made in china and shipped all over the world to sell... we sell them where we make them... probably doesn't make sense to you though bulldog. we're not in the import/export business and we don't send people to india to have their vehicles repaired, they can magically get that done here too. :) and other large corporations ought to follow suit. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/20/2005 12:10:08 PM | "obviously it would make sense to have employees in the same area where products are sold... that's not the issue. the issue is that US business is being outsourced to other countries to save large corporations billions of dollars."
So if this is the issue, why bring up racism?--"Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas.."
Why do we have to label ourselves? ie. poor, rich, white, black, chinese, mexicans, european
Isn't it true that during history class we were taught how the "white" ppl took away the land from the Natives.. so in turn I could say that "white" ppl are the immigrants and the rest of the other races since this land belongs to the Natives.. makes sense?
Hmmm.. Let me know.. | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/20/2005 6:01:31 PM | well fabulous... you just let me know when "white" folks are deemed the immigrants by society and the government so i can start collecting my benefits. :)
oh & let's not forget that we "white" folks have been paying retribution to those "natives" for years and will continue to pay them for the rest of their lives. maybe your question about why "we" label ourselves would be better suited for the census bureau or the government or the police or any other organization that asks your race.
just heard a report the other day that we'll soon be paying retribution or someone is seeking retribution for what the "whites" did to the blacks. i for one didn't do anything to anybody so why should i pay for any form of retribution to any race?
are the jews collecting retribution money for all of the slaughtering that went on way back when? should we pay that too? maybe ze germans should pay too? | |
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| Mexicans are a cross between Spaniards and Incas, neither of which have any ansestral Claim here...
Posted: 5/20/2005 6:42:37 PM |
are the jews collecting retribution money for all of the slaughtering that went on way back when? should we pay that too? maybe ze germans should pay too?
Actually, yes, Germany is still paying WWII RESTITUTION to Isreal.
and just so you know, don't feel too singled out. I'm filipino and I'm also paying RESTITUTION for the native americans, the diff being, I don't begrudge it.
Of course the society and gov't created by "white" folk are not going to call themselves immigrants, but that is exactly what everyone in the US who isn't of native american descent is. Yes, including me. | |
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