| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/29/2007 12:29:03 PM |
It's not that it is "Trendy" to be an Atheist, but instead, more of us are coming "out of the closet" about it.
Many of us got fed up with pretending to have respect for religion, and listening to their garbage with a respectful indifference.
Still, according to some statistics, less then 10 percent of the US population call themselves Atheists.
And agnostics, but yes. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/29/2007 7:46:30 PM | I'm an atheist and wanting to meet some like minded people, I joined a meetup.com group in my area.
I want to say that atheism is not trendy, but this group sort of made it seem like it was so. I was looking for just people with a similar mindset, these people were more a 'anti church' type of group. Not only did they meet every few Sundays, but they tried to hold discussions (sermons?) about atheism. I thought they were going to pass out hymn books and start singing songs like "How Great Thou Aren't" and "Jesus Doesn't Love The Little Children."
I think there are a lot of self described atheist whom really aren't, who just pretend to be as a form of protest. Not to mention many confuse agnostics with atheists. It is NOT the same. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/29/2007 7:57:23 PM | "I am a spiritual being and philosophy is the only way to make sense of it all"
Prove it beyond saying a word and I'll give you a philosophical cookie.
"it is becoming a religion in and of itself."
Gah!! My brain just popped. Little candies are gushing. Where is that dang broom? Children and candy and blood everywhere. The horror! | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/29/2007 8:46:49 PM | trendy?I'll say it is trendy. I plan to launch a line of atheist designer Clothing, Jeans and and a atheist perfume by this Christmas. What a better way to take God out of Christmas then to advance good old American consumerism.  | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/29/2007 10:02:02 PM | I read some of the posts to this, but not all. I doubt that atheism is becoming trendy. I'm a Christian church goer. And as such I'm very tolerant of all belief systems, whether atheism, agnosticism, or some religious leaning.
What is becoming trendy, I feel, is religious interpretation whether it is Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, Judaism, Secularism, New Age, or some mystic extension of a mainstream belief. People in general, I feel, want the freedom to identify themselves with a particular religious belief, but, at the same time, want to define the tenets of that belief in terms that allow them the greatest liberality possible. Often without allowing others the same liberality of interpretation.
Sin and morality are relative to each person’s thinking. Too often, I think, people want freedom to do as they feel appropriate without giving others the same freedom. In effect, “It’s okay for me to do something, but not okay for you to do as I do.” | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/30/2007 3:15:50 AM | Its ok having belief in something as long as you dont force it into the faces of others. All this 'morals do not exist without god rubbish'... The church is insulting to anyone who doesnt follow/believe.
Religion is just another word for control. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/30/2007 4:02:02 AM | Dang, a hottie in England who doesn't want kids and isn't a religious freak.
Dang it. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/30/2007 8:14:28 AM |
What a better way to take God out of Christmas then to advance good old American consumerism.
As a consumer, I'm getting in on the ground floor of this and donating 10% of my income to Atheist Shwag until God is dead and EVERYONE cares.  | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/30/2007 8:56:54 AM | Krathnami, You can write you check to Artz, Donations are gladly excepted. Now I have one thing to say about when you see a hot woman wearing my Atheist Jeans. You can't say "Oh my" god" look at that great azz! Maybe you could try this phrase. Oh my "nonexistent supreme spiritual entity" look at that azz | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 7/31/2007 7:09:45 AM | ^^^^^^Damn Coke out the nose and another keyboard ruined heheheheh now try saying it repeatedly during sex  | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 10:34:24 AM | | It's so funny that people have so many different notions of what atheism is.I'm not an atheist to be trendy.Why would you want people to hate you?I'm a very nice guy but I know many women wouldn't want to go out with me because I don't believe in a god.If I said I went to church and believed in Jesus I'm sure I'd have many people willing to talk to me.I have always viewed the world in scientific terms.This is how my brain sees the world.I just don't believe in the supernatural.Many of my family members are Christians so I don't hate Christians.I was brought up in a Christian household but just didn't believe.As I see it religious text were wrote by men thousands of years ago to explain what they believe was the world as they understood it.The church had thoughts of the sun rotating around the earth.We know today this wasn't the case.I'm very happy being an atheist.I love living without religious dogma. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 10:58:18 AM | | I recall a few years back with a mass conversion of geeks who believed in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was just atheists who were having a laugh at the christians over the state of Kansas accepting creationism being aloud to be taught in school. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 1:04:30 PM | | Artz, just redefine "god" to be an acronym for "glorious ocular diversion", or "glutes of desire", etc., as in "Oh my G.O.D.!" Then the habitual phrasing becomes non-theistically correct. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 2:32:21 PM | I don't think that holding to atheistic beliefs is trendy, for many of the reasons cited before. It is just that some people are less reticent to share knowledge about that part of their beliefs with others. Not that people wear a badge proclaiming their atheistic beliefs as many theists do....no crosses...no Mogan Dovid's etc... I think atheism would only become trendy, when a subtantial population start proclaiming their atheism as an affectation....in much the same way as latte and chardy swilling folk, rave on about the most absolutely fabulous cafe to drink their favourite skinny, decaf latte or the best chardy label to be seen drinking by their local yuppie in-crowd.
Being open about being an atheist doesn't have the kind of sanctions placed against it as have applied in the past....where being an atheist was dealt with by the god police in much the same way as heretics were dealt with. So many atheists in those times just wore the clothes of theism, by attending church...participating in the communal rituals, and most importantly...tithing one tenth of their income to the good ol' church to avoid harassment and persecution, or a date with your local witch and faggot (as in combustibles) burning clergy and churchies. Nowadays...there is no need to pretend to believe what one doesn't, just for the sake of keeping up appearances and keeping one's head on one's shoulders. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 3:30:11 PM | | It's not trendy, but it doesn't carry the same negative stigma that it used to. As a result, more non-religious people have "come out of the closet" about their position and a lot of the pseudo-religious people who were just going through the motions don't feel as guilty about leaving their religion. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 4:53:18 PM | Aren't there two types of Athiests.
Non-believer in existing religious beliefs....until they're proven empirically and there is consensus.
Believer there are no supernatural forces....period.
It's a subtle difference, and I think some of them get confused which one they are. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 5:16:44 PM |
These are two very different things. Athiests are people who believe that there is no god. No, atheists are people who don't believe there is a god. Lack of belief is NOT a "belief".........Subtle difference... | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 5:36:05 PM | No, atheists are people who don't believe there is a god. Lack of belief is NOT a "belief".........Subtle difference...
Yeah, that's what I was lead to believe too. Not all Athiests are like that though. I have met some Athiests who are opposed to the idea of gods period, rather than just religious systems. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 5:40:25 PM | Yes, it's a subtle difference...but that's irrelevant. There are many "atheists" in these fora who firmly believe and proclaim that there are no gods. This is not a lack of belief, but a belief in the absence of gods. It is debatable whether the latter are truly atheist, since they actually have a non-rational faith in the non-existence of deities. Non-rational in that it can never be proven, any more than the contrary. Evidence is strongly against deities, since I am unaware of any concept of a god which is not contradicted by evidence in some way. However, although probability would appear to be against any individual concept being correct, those actually have zero effect on the total probability...which is unknown and unknowable.
Further...the previous post did not refer to two types of atheists, but to agnostics and atheists. Agnostics are open to evidence either way. Atheists have reached a conclusion. Personally, I walk a fine line. I am open to evidence, but I have reached a conclusion: there can be no satisfactory "evidence" for any deity.
I hope atheism and agnosticism do not become trendy. Religion is "trendy". Agnosticism and atheism are frequently derived from conclusions based on logic or evidence. When one comes to those conclusions without logic or evidence, I would find it doubtful whether the conclusion has any value at all. The consequence could be all the same people suddenly becoming devout followers of Kali tomorrow, just because it's trendy, the thing to do, or their parents indoctrinated them. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 6:45:36 PM | Every thing is trendy. What was in last time, will be out this time, and in again next time. Even religion has trends.
Religious people believe in life insurance and think everyone else should too.
Atheists don't need life insurance and think people who have it are in denial.
Agnostics don't know if life insurance exists or doesn't exist. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 9:31:26 PM |
Yeah, that's what I was lead to believe too. At the end of the day, when ya weigh up the evidence for religion/deities etc, think rationally & be intellectually honest with yourself, I find it's all a bit silly & childish... | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 10:17:06 PM | Yeah Limey, it didn't make sense. I was brought up Roman Catholic and eventually became Agnostic after drifting away from them. They were not people I wished to use as role models. I have nothing against religions, but I have something against intolerant people. People who act to feed immediate feelings, rather than feed future stability. My father's side felt that regardless of how complex our world has gotten, that emotions were still good enough to motivate action. That a pursuit of understanding and careful consideration, before acting, were not part of the divine plan. I could not agree. If my father's side of the family were actually open-minded folk like my mother's side, I probably would still be Roman Catholic.
I've resigned into believing that I can't know for sure that which cannot be proven. It's irrelevant to try. All that matters now, is that I aspire to live my life according to a path that will use it's time wisely for the betterment of something that will outlive myself. That path meant sacrificing acting on what I felt like, but in the end what I felt like doing changed radically. | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/13/2008 10:21:03 PM | Depends on who you hand out with. If you go to Reed College or online message boards, atheism is trendy. If you live in an Amish village you probably wont find any atheists  | |
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| Has atheism become trendy? Posted: 6/14/2008 3:00:00 PM |
Depends on who you hand out with. If you go to Reed College or online message boards, atheism is trendy. If you live in an Amish village you probably wont find any atheists
There are people in amish communities that do not believe but pretend to because if they were to reveal they were non-believes they would be forced out of the community and ostracized by everyone including their family. | |
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