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 Author Thread: He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
 ciaobaby71

Joined: 2/24/2008
Msg: 576
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 4:51:32 PM
The whole ring thing is tasteless in my book and quite frankly, I'd be offended.
In my opinion, If he really loved her and lets say concerned for her health so to speak he'd encourage her to lose weight using a more positive approach perhaps offering to exercise/diet together, engage in more outside activities etc etc...
 Spens19

Joined: 1/15/2008
Msg: 577
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 7:14:00 PM
Well honestly I think that if he is truly inlove with her then there wouldn't need to be any weight loss. Love the person for who they are not what they look like and 30lbs is nothing! I am sure she is gorgous. This day and age your lucky if you are JUST 30lbs over weight!
 ROTB

Joined: 3/19/2007
Msg: 578
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 7:55:37 PM
Here is my biased view. I am sidestepping the annulment issues, and matters of faith.

I was once rejected by a woman for living with my parents (8 years ago ladies), and quitting my cushy job at a Big 3 accounting firm.

If you are a woman who says to herself "you go girl!" to dumping a man that has no job, and you think a man is scum for asking a woman to drop weight then ... congratulations! YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.

Rejecting a man because he lacks the strength to move his butt and get a job IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS rejecting a woman because she lacks the strength to shut her mouth when she is overweight.

I will put it another way:

A man who keeps a job that secures food, clothing, and shelter IS RESPECTING THE DESIRES OF HIS WOMAN.

A woman keeping a trim figure, dressing well, and wearing tasteful makeup RESPECTS THE DESIRES OF HER MAN.
 darknight7002

Joined: 4/17/2007
Msg: 579
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 7:58:20 PM
Hi,
I think most of us at some point in our lives end up over weight so this isn't a personal response.
But it shows self respect, self control for an individual to keep their weight under control.
There are those that are to thin also that go to the other extreme.
But basically size 8 - 12 for a woman is healthy and looks hot.
Size 14 can be cute depending.
Women always like to give their veiws but they need to know even the good guys interested mainly in the way you behave and your character will still notice the way a woman looks.
Apperence is important as 9/10 times its what first attracts a person to come over and speak to you in the first place.
We live in a day and age where weight control can easily be managed with very little effort.
The heart of a person is what matters most but the way a person looks is a close second.
If somebody loved their partner first of all yes they would accept them the way they are no matter how they were but equally so they would keep themselves healthy and attractive to.
To do anything else is selfish and not only bad for your partner but bad for you as the risk of cancer and heart disease is increased, and your sex life could also suffer.
Not to mention not looking after your health costs the NHS and in that sense effects the nation.
A little self respect and self control for a few months doesn't hurt anybody.
Ps I've no wish to debate my veiws as i believe them to be 200% correct. Mwah.
 Soas48

Joined: 3/20/2007
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Posted: 3/10/2008 8:04:29 PM
Dump him, at 61 he can be all that himself, sound like he wants a trophy, not a real woman, I agree with another post I saw on here, lose the 30 lbs, then throw the ring back in his face and kick him to the curb
 darknight7002

Joined: 4/17/2007
Msg: 581
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:09:42 PM
I love your response a overweight women.
I mean how hard is it for a woman to keep her mouth closed and not put anything in it. lol
A underweight woman is stupidity in action.
Harsh but the truth
And its disrespecting the needs of men.
Comes down to self control i don't agree with all the excuses lazy people make.
Want to lose some weight go work out in a field for a couple weeks and lay off the chocolate.
And womans emotional bull and a few tears don't change the facts.
Smiles.
Nobody is born overweight and nobody forced those cream cakes down your throat.
From a religious veiw point it says respect your body and don't be greedy.
No excuses at all.
 tigerlily1

Joined: 12/20/2007
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Posted: 3/10/2008 8:17:02 PM
Someone made a point - Tiegkitty, and it is a good point, food for thought.............
 darknight7002

Joined: 4/17/2007
Msg: 583
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:38:52 PM
My response is harsh because woman need to wake up.
I've read some of these disgraceful responses.
Dumping your man for telling his woman to look after and respect herself and others around her is nothing short of being a hoe.
I mean how hard is it for a woman to keep her mouth closed and not put anything in it. l
An underweight woman is stupidity in action its the other extreme once again no self respect or control.
Harsh but the truth
And its disrespecting the needs of men.
A REAL man is not some woman's matt but he will love his woman no matter what but will also expect her to look after herself, respect herself and her partner by showing self control.
Comes down to self control and i don't agree with all the excuses lazy people make.
Want to lose some weight go work out in a field for a couple weeks and lay off the chocolate.
And womans emotional bull and a few tears don't change the facts.
Nobody is born overweight and nobody forced those cream cakes down your throat.
From a religious veiw point it says respect your body and don't be greedy.
No excuses at all.
 lauiree

Joined: 2/29/2008
Msg: 584
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:47:32 PM
so chick lose'em........
.....if you mean anything to yourself and if he means anything to you you are in a dilemna? -- I am confused....laugh: .....
......take care! and take him deep like you mean it! -- it is not good for man to be alone....and he knows it....or I bet a fair wager that you will be singin the blues in a few years...."why did I not lose those....he was a good man..."
....wise up and make all us girls look good....Laurie
 lauiree

Joined: 2/29/2008
Msg: 585
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:48:46 PM
so chick lose'em........
.....if you mean anything to yourself and if he means anything to you you are in a dilemna? -- I am confused....laugh: .....
......take care! and take him deep like you mean it! -- it is not good for man to be alone....and he knows it....or I bet a fair wager that you will be singin the blues in a few years...."why did I not lose those few lbs....he was a good man..."
....wise up and make all us girls look good....Laurie
 VirgoGrl

Joined: 2/28/2008
Msg: 586
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/10/2008 10:51:20 PM
My unbiased view: (1) Hes a jerk (2) Hes a lying jerk - 30 lbs is a good excuse not to get married. After she loses the weight he'll find another reason not to give her the ring.
 Masked_Hero

Joined: 12/14/2003
Msg: 587
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 10:56:17 AM
Even thought I think that making a woman lose 3o pounds is a bit outta the norm.. ( why not just replace her with a thin woman if thats what you want ) Im more upset over the fact that everyone is BASHING the guy in this situation... Why are we giving this guy the DEATH PENELTY when the woman is commiting the same CRIME how are you gonna MAKE this guy buy you a engagement ring. They BOTH are try'n to FORCE the other into doing something here... So she's just as wrong as he is !.... As far as the pills make'n her grumpy... Tell her to take HGH its a much better way to lose weight without all the jitters or side effects
 virgogidget

Joined: 11/10/2005
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 8:39:58 PM
If it was me I would wave him good bye.
terms, conditions, and shallow
Your friend is a size16 now if he didnt like it he should of ended it way back.
His not prepared to do his bit with his church either.
Sounds like all his own way.
BYe
 IndianBlackBeauty

Joined: 6/26/2006
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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:47:08 PM
thats called











conditional love! which obviously is nothing be desired

e.g.: i will only love her if she is skinny
 Mandarbgrim

Joined: 1/29/2004
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:04:47 PM
But what love isn't conditional? That for your children. But even the love for siblings and parents can be mildly conditional.

You love someone for the qualities they have. I agree that it seems a bit shallow, but it seems short sighted to completely ignore a quality about another person because it is a sensitive subject.

Is it acceptable to tell someone they have to get a job or stop smoking/drinking/drugs to give them an engagement ring? Is it acceptable for her to lay spiritual conditions upon him for their marriage? If so, why is it different? For every explanation of why it could be you can point to the examples and find a parallel explanation that is also problematic. These things are acceptable because a person's qualities DO matter. Weight is just one more quality that is highly valued. In some cases too highly valued, but don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't matter or shouldn't matter.
 Mandarbgrim

Joined: 1/29/2004
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:16:28 PM
This is sort of a seperate remark, which is why I just didn't edit.

It seems like I am in situations like his repeatedly. I am interested in someone and care for them, but I am hesitant over certain qualities or behaviors that they have. What should I do?

1. Ignore those and decieve myself as to their importance?
2. Feel like an ass and bring up these touchy issues?
3. Abandon the relationship?

I've been a coward and opted for the last too often. I refuse to do the first. But nobody seems to find the second acceptable. Everyone seems to take it badly. On the contrary, I have yet to see a girl be honest and open herself. They opt for the first or last in my experience.

If there is no issues, then everything is perfect and you can just procede, but that just doesn't happen in the real world. If there are too many issues to overcome, then the relationship should probably be abandoned, but if there aren't many, shouldn't you work through them?
 cabadboy

Joined: 9/3/2006
Msg: 592
He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:29:57 PM
If the lady wants to lose weight for herself...thats fine.....the guy has been going with her for 2.5 yrs and all of a sudden he wants her to lose weight.......Dump him, he will comeback...She has to stand her ground, Tell her not to budge obviously she put out already....hey why but the cow, when the milk is free?...........Obviously he accepted her the way she was for 2.5 yrs...tell him to hit the road......when you want to lose weight, do it for yourself, not for anyone else.......

He won't do the annuled thing because there is alot of paperwork to it.....he's not catholic, mostly he won't be attending church after they get married so whats the sense in that?...hey sometimes you have to question the catholic church, after all they covered up the child molesting , didn't they? so who knows better....the church or you?
 chuey68

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 593
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Posted: 3/11/2008 9:37:45 PM
No debate needed. She is a size 16 for lords sake unless she is 7 feet tall , show some initiative and lose the weight.
 TaylorMillTerry

Joined: 3/24/2007
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He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:43:51 PM
No I wouldn't! I'm a man and I would rather have a new welder or tickets to a nascar race. Ol wait a second . Hell he was asking that of a woman .O k here goes she ought to tell him to grow a set of balls and she might accept a ring from some pc. like him ....Unless a better offer comes along................
 Rocketgirl4

Joined: 4/14/2007
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Posted: 3/11/2008 9:45:24 PM
OMG.......I thought I had heard it all. Love is unconditional.....period......I hope she runs as fast as she can.......what if the poor woman got sick...would he leave her for that???? YIKES!!!!!!
 doodlebug2005

Joined: 6/21/2005
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Posted: 3/15/2008 2:50:40 PM
I say tell that no good man to take a hike preferably off the C.N.tower...If anyone ever gave me that condition I would tell him in no uncertain terms what he could do.If a man or woman loves you they love you for what,s on the inside not the outside.If I am going to lose weight i will do it for me and not for anyone else.Never mind girl there are lots of other guys out there who thinks big is beautiful and you think it about yourself.
 prettywoman327

Joined: 12/27/2005
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Posted: 3/15/2008 3:15:09 PM
Reminds me when I was young and a guy said he would marry me if I lost 5 pounds!!! I got really pissed and told him to find another girlfriend. I had tons of boyfriends at the time and looked really good. I didn't need to lose 5 pounds, I needed to lse 160 pounds of stupid boy and I did. LOL
 prettywoman327

Joined: 12/27/2005
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Posted: 3/15/2008 3:15:33 PM
Reminds me when I was young and a guy said he would marry me if I lost 5 pounds!!! I got really pissed and told him to find another girlfriend. I had tons of boyfriends at the time and looked really good. I didn't need to lose 5 pounds, I needed to lse 160 pounds of stupid boy and I did. LOL
 saxon1234

Joined: 6/23/2007
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Posted: 3/15/2008 7:57:34 PM
My girlfriend broke up with me for not going to 24 hour fitness enough. I was going 2-3 times a week and went up to 5 days a week shortly before I recieved her breakup e mail. In the year since I have been going every mon-fri for 2 hours and lost 53 lbs. I no longer am doing this to please her but for my own health and feeling good about myself. I still miss her but the feeling I get from getting into clothes I could'nt a year ago makes me feel so good about myself, I am forgetting her and moving on. A person who professes to love you would not ask or bribe you to lose weight to get a ring. Drop him and get in a health club and keep going, lose that and more by eating less and exercising more. The 1 God has intended for you will be along and the person he/she will find will be a more sexy, confident and healthier person. If you stay and get married and re gain the weight, what's next, get a divorce? Any relationship based on that is doomed to fail, in the end we all sag and can't stop time. Be who you are instead of what someone wants you to be, be that only if its the you you really want, not to appease.
 z14u2c

Joined: 3/24/2007
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Posted: 3/15/2008 8:05:40 PM
first of all religion should never be a problem; for the person who is religious.
And secondly, my dad had a joke. He'd say,"honey, would you still love me if i was fat?" And she would reply,"yeah, but I sure would miss ya."
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