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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 5:03:29 PM | | I would have to say if she really loves him, and truly wants a ring and commitment from him, then yes lose the weight, Love and attraction don't always go together. It's not wrong of him to be honest that he wants her to lose weight, nor would it be wrong of her to discuss her likes and dislikes, If your'e talking marriage and your'e in your fifties be honest with yourself we have our likes and dislikes, don't we? | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 5:19:05 PM | | For starters, if he is so happy with her for over two years, WHY tell her to lose wieght now. He is stupid. Tell him to get a six pack and see how he likes it. The other thing is why let a churh tell you what to do and how to do it. If they love each other and there church wont do it, go to another church. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 5:31:58 PM | | This would be unpopular, but.. At this age, people tend to be a bit more pragmatic and blunt and less dramatic... she is probably the last partner he'll ever have, and he likes thin women, so that's his right. As is her right to decide whether he is worthy of it. In other words, it's an offer of partnership, to be taken at a face value. She would not want to marry him either if she was not attracted to him or if he could not keep up with her lifestyle, right? Say, if he was bedridden, as an extreme example? Diet pills are lousy though; there are better ways. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 5:33:53 PM | What happened to loving someone for who they are? No way would I ever accept an engagement with "conditions". Sounds to me like he's picking the couple of things that likely can't be fixed just to avoid the commitment. Maybe she should tell him that when he gains an inch or two where it counts that she'll consider still dating him. :) In all seriousness, I think she's hoping for something that isn't going to happen. And to take medication to try to keep him, no way. Doesn't matter who she is, she deserves better. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 5:35:54 PM | | Noone is talking about the deception on the part of the man for putting on the 'love' show only to come along with the weightloss demand once she, having listened to his every profession of love and devotion pursued the commitment issue and naturally expected the next best and logical steps-aka marriage. So , either he has been hemming and hawing the whole way through and she's been in denial 'hoping' while he strung her along up to this point, OR he pulled a switcharoo on her after having convinced her of supposed true feelings for her. Which is the greater suffering for her, knowing she is partly responsible for missing this side to him and having to forgive herself her own shortsightedness, lack of self-love/esteem, and denial, or having the wind kicked out of her sails by his sudden honesty and lack of character and her own heartbreak after having fallen for the more 'honorable' face he may have previously shown her? In any case, not a good situation at all for investing of ones heart mind and soul in another for it to come to this level of shallowness | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 9:02:47 PM | He must think he's George Burns or something ... maybe he is, who knows. lol .. I've heard of women doing worse things for a man. Maybe he's the last bachelor "standing" in her area .. so she's considering it because, let's face it folks, that aspect IS important! Life may be short but other things don't have to be! nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more! ..
I'd still like to think that even in my late 50's/early 60's I'd say BITE ME OLD MAN! and hire myself a shameless pool boy who is in desperate need of a grandma figure. But won't know unless (and if) I get there, I suppose .. :P
(alright, settle down ... Let me DREAM would ya??) lol. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 9:33:23 PM | I think it is a Fair thing ? if she doesnt like it ? she can go and find another man. I understand the `Love is Blind, and looks are only skin deep! But as a `Slim man myself? that is what i want in a partner, ive been with the ~larger woman, and it doesnt work for me. I think a lot of women just dont get off the lounge enough? i know they can be Busy in life ? But its no excuse to let yourself become `Overweight . For health and lifestyle reasons too. They just seem to think a man will find them eventually ? you know the ` Fate thing you all believe in Men are visual creatures and like certain looks, Women do it ? so why cant WE !!!  | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 9:43:24 PM | I agree with jefferysearch...
Women Place great deals of Conditions on us guys, e.g. he has to earn over a certain amount of money, behave a certain way, be a certain person etc...
And we have to accept it, but as soon as guys have one little Condition, then we're bad jerks and our asses should be kicked.
Answer me this do you think that's really fair?
I really don't think there's such a thing as Unconditional Love, I reckon that's just Hollywood crap to be honest, anyone else agree? | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 9:44:13 PM | | I believe he can ask her...and the simple and most honest answer she should give him is no. And guys, you can request anything you want....just be prepared for the answers. What happens down the road, when she becomes pregnant & god forbid, gains weight again....what then....People need to do what they are comfortable with, and if she is ok with that...then she should go for it...otherwise....think real hard...and go buy yourself a diamond ring...you deserve it ! Do not need a man to buy you anything if it comes with strings attached...jmho. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 10:20:48 PM | ok soooo then what happens ....does he take it back if she regains the weight? Whatever happened to for better or for worse? You know people have no business being married if there are stipulations....thats utter bullsh*t! Whatever, people want opinions but they end up doing what they want anyhow, so, its a mute point! Good luck to her.....I do mean that sincerely  | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/7/2008 10:24:07 PM | Tell him to get a six pack. Then when he does, dump his sorry a$$ and date the guy who loves you for who you are ... without the emotional buse and conditional love he set forth.
If he doesn't think he can get the six pack, leave him immediately and still date the guy who loves you for who you are anyway.
Being attracted to someone is one thing, but requesting a condition, in regards to physical attributes that can change for better or worse when you receive the ring ANYWAY, in order to receive a commitment is just not acceptable.
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/8/2008 5:47:00 AM | well, when a couple, in this case, in their early 60's has been together for 2.5 years, and then one of them opens their eyes one day, looks over at his significant other, and suddenly decides they want to marry them BUT, only if ...
- they lose weight and/or - they lose the nine cats - they stop cooking fish on fridays - they change their wardrobe - they grow a third nipple ...
then, yes .. they are not serious, they are friggin' kidding! and laughable. Who did they think they were with for 2.5 years? Are they slow? lol.
Yeah, kick im to the curb. and throw the diet pills on his sorry butt - throw in some complimentary viagra, and don't worry about any 'hard' feelings ..
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/8/2008 5:55:46 PM | Gain 30 more pounds.........................then kick him the a**! This 61 year old most likely need a tune up....but is she putting a condition on that for marriage? He is a controlling sob ....as time goes on with this enbisole,she will be damned if she does and damned if she don't ...it a big Red flag....don't wave your white One .......for him! | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/8/2008 6:03:17 PM | actually, if he really loved you, he wouldn't give you any conditions. marriage is supposed to be unconditional love to another human being. my opinion is that he's biding his time with you. he doesn't love you enough to give you a ring or marry you but if he gets you to jump for this 'carrot' so to speak, he'll get more time with you until he decides if he 'really' wants you or not. don't go for it. retain your dignity and dump him first. it will hurt like hell but in the long run, your improved self- esteem will make you stronger and moe attractive for the man who will honestly love you for 'who you are'.
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/8/2008 6:52:46 PM |
First instinct... lose the 30 lbs and then shove the ring back in his face.
My first instinct too. But given her age, and his for that matter, perhaps there's a legitimate health concern. No, i doubt that's what he's thinking, but hey, it's a lemon, where's the lemonade?
Also given that they both seem to care about each other, i think she might consider a counter-offer. Each goes to a doctor and has a full checkup - bloodwork, physical, STD check while you're at it, and get the Dr's recommendations for weight, blood glucose, triglicerides, the whole "live long and prosper" analysis. Then they both have to reach whatever target the Dr sets for all physical parameters, within 1 year, or the deal's off. Before the visit they give the Dr. written permission to provide details to each other, no secrets.
Goose sauce, gander sauce. Works for me ;-)
As far as a "Church wedding", well, do you want to focus on the paperwork, or the substance? Get married where you want, whoever will do the ceremony. No one has a copyright on giving God's blessing.
Blissings on them - Grant | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya???? Posted: 7/8/2008 7:01:21 PM |
Tell him to get a six pack. Then when he does, dump his sorry a$$ and date the guy who loves you for who you are ... without the emotional buse and conditional love he set forth.
Since when is emotional abuse telling the one you love that you don't want their health to be at risk. Honestly we don't know the whole story here! If she's short 30 lbs could be a significant health risk to her! We don't know how fit the man is either. Like I said on the previous page I refuse to marry a fat guy and I refuse to be a fat woman.
Could be that he said this with her best interest at heart and wanting to live out the rest of his years as long as he possibly can with her! | |
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