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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:32:45 AM | And tell her to stop taking those diet pills. They are unhealthy and can cause problems.
And being a fat slob is not unhealthy in itself?
Being a fat slob can't cause problems within one's own body?
I'm not saying she's a fat slob but there are many out there.
It's the mentality society has (the one many of you are portraying) that just nurtures this problem instead of trying to help reslove it.
Nawtybbw47
Yes I completely agree that she has to lose it for herself. All I'm trying to show is that he's trying to help give her some motivation.
DID YOU ALL READ THE PART WHERE SHE WAS ASKED TO LOSE THE WEIGHT FOR 4 MONTHS?
IT'S NOT AS IF HE SAID SHE HAS TO LOSE IT AND IF SHE PUTS IT BACK ON THERE WILL BE A PROBLEM.
OBVIOUSLY HE'S JUST TRYING TO GIVE HER SOME INCENTIVE AND SHOW HER THAT SHE CAN DO IT. ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS LOSE IT FOR 4 MONTHS.
MANY TIMES ONCE A PERSON HAS PUT FORTH ALL THAT EFFORT INTO LOSING IT AND SEE'S WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF ACCOMPLISHING IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO KEEP THE WEIGHT OFF. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:33:24 AM | He's actually putting a stipulation on the ring???? If that were me, he could kiss my a$$!!! He either loves her ---and that's as she is --- or he can take a flyin' leap off a short pier!
It would first start with, if you lose the weight then you could get a ring....
then, later on down the road, if you do x,y,z you could get this, that and the other!
She's supposed to be his EQUAL, not his CHILD!
WTF!!!
This burns me like nothing else and most importantly, it SHOULD burn HER!
What the hell is HE doing for HER?! Is he so perfect that he doesn't HAVE to change anything about himself?! What he SHOULD do is change that PERSONALITY he's got goin' for him!
The absolute gaul and audacity!!! Love is supposed to be UNconditional and he's already stringing her along WITH conditions!
She should tell him where to go --- and QUICK! | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:40:30 AM | Pardon me if I sound too idealistic but I believe true love is unconditional. Mr. Wonderful is putting this condition on her. What will he change for her? Nothing! I bet.
What other conditions will he put on her in the future? Dangling an engagement ring as bait? Is he that great of a catch? Who does he think he is? God's gift to women?
Like this site says, there are "plenty of fish".... I'd toss him back and find someone better.
I went through this with my ex, and I finally wised up. Now, I'm losing weight for me, myself, and I, not some jerk.  | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:41:14 AM | ^^^^ *sighs*
And then half of you wonder why you're single. *shakes head in disbelief*
It baffles me how quick everyone is to say "kick him to the curb".
Is that what you all do any and everytime there's an issue or a disagreement in a relationship?
No wonder there are so many singles out there. No wonder it's so difficult to find a partner it todays' day and age.
Is this what's become of society?
Do you all think our parents had the luxury of "kicking each other to the curb" and searching for a new partner everytime they had a squabble?
In any loving relationship you try and work things out. You don't "head for the hills" every time there's an issue.
GEEZE PEOPLE!
Personally, if it were me as a guy and I was overweight and I had someone trying to help motivate me to become a HEALTHIER person it wouldn't bother me one bit.
I think you all are taking it the wrong way. You all (women) are taking it as a guy trying to control a woman and I don't think this it what's it's about. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:41:26 AM | It is interesting how this thread was asking for a MANS opinion, yet all the (overweight) women jumped on the bandwagon to attack it. No offense girls, just noticing. Hey I'm not body perfect either. But here it is, the truth.
Men WANT and desire a woman who is IN GOOD SHAPE. That is what a man IS. A man is NOT someone who desires a fat woman. Size 16 is fat. A size 9 is overweight I mean come on. If you want a man who doesn't care about a woman's appearance, well you just don't want a man because men ARE NOT LIKE THAT. Every woman KNOWS that men are visual and desire a beautiful sexy woman. That is what a man IS. You think you can change the very being and programming of men, to suit your lazy lifestyle of no eating/diet/excersize discipline habits and that is not only unrealistic, but unfair to the man and men in general. You just don't want to have to give the man anything at all, and you are far too lazy to put in any effort to give him what he wants or desires. That is the difference between a LAZY woman and a REAL woman. A real woman knows what a man wants and will do what she can to GIVE it to him because she is a good woman and gives to her man. What you are doing is trying to force a man to never have in life what he desires from you, and if he so much as asks you what you all know he wants, because ALL men want it, it is WHAT MEN ARE AND HOW THEY WORK, then you say there is something wrong with him. There isn't something wrong with him, there is something wrong with you. Its called you are a lazy non giving person who couldn't care less about your man and don't think any man is worth changing your eating habits and excersizing 4-5 hours a week and keep the weight off and be that wonderful beautiful women ALL MEN CRAVE. Not just 10% of men, not 90% of men, ALL MEN. You have no desire to give to a man at all, so you guys shouldn't even be offered rings because you think men aren't worth any of your efforts at all and are not willing to give a man what he desires from you, you just want him to be forced to live without it forever. Wow that sounds pretty hypocritcal, woman want a man who provides and does everything for them and they aren't willing to do what a man wants at all from them, what he desires most, which is that sexiness and beauty for him from you. It is not too much to ask at all for you to have a little sexiness in mind for him and throwing on a moomoo is not exactly sexing it up. Makeup and clothes are not enough, and making excuses for the measly effort it takes to lose weight is not acceptable. It's like saying, "She said she would marry me if I took her out minimum every week, gave her a back massage minimum once a month, bought her flowers every month, took her on 2 vacations a year, did all the heavy chores, romanced her, wrote her letters and poems, did sweet things and said sweet things and provided for her" You guys wouldn't say thats a bad thing but a guy ask a girl for the thing he desires more than anything in the world and he will do the rest?? OH GOD NO YOU COULDN'T GIVE HIM THAT!!!! Oh my god he is an ***hole!!! To hell with the man!!! I think a national database of women who subscribe to such a viewpoint so men can stay away from them knowing they don't give a shit about a mans desires, needs and wants, might be a good idea. Because they certainly will never be completely satisfied by a lazy woman, men want REAL women. Women who want to give to a man and be beautiful for him, and not just SAY they want it, but do it. if you do, watch how the men will flock, because REAL women are so hard to find these days. Just like real men who give also. Givers on both sides of the aisle are hard to find. And don't worry, I am doing my part too. Gym 5 days a week baby. System Overloaded 7 treadmills at 24 hour fitness night before last. they can't handle 2 minutes at 8 and then 2 minutes on 12.5 intervals just so y'all know ;)
I think he is a champ for even asking her to lose weight, someone has to. He will get the brunt of the punishment and she will probably lose weight willingly for the next guy, but won't for him and will harbor resentment for him forever, as per the usual female reaction and standard. He is the one who should RUN not walk RUN if she wont do it for him, if he is worth THAT LITTLE to her that she wont put in that effort and give to him in that MEASLY way then he DESERVES WAYYYYYY better and should look for it and He is the one who should kick her to the curb. What is with all these lazy women who beat up men for being MEN and think men deserve NOTHING. MEN Desire their woman to be beautiful, period. You are NEVER going to change that in a man EVER, NOT ANY MAN. NO MAN will be truely happy with a blob-lady. WAKE UP LAZY UNGIVING WOMEN!!!!! Go marry a fat lesbian, because you certainly don't want a man, you want something else. I mean get serious here. Do you want a man without a job? IT IS THE SAME THING. Women value providership the same way as men value body/physical. It would always drain on you if he was a bum, well an overweight woman is a bum woman when it comes to the relationship giving arena when you are talking about a man's desires, think about it. Not one time did any of you women mention a mans needs/desires/wants the sexual health or appetite of the relationship, NOTHING about what you can give to a man in that way NOT ONCE was there even a MENTION of it. Obviously you don't have any incling to truely give a man what THEY ALL REALLY DESIRE FROM ......YOU.
Might be a good time to look in the mirror about why you are single. Kudos to the guy for having some standards and being honest about what he needs and desires. Shame on you lazy women for piling on the guy. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:43:37 AM | I've never seen so much indignant rage in one thread...
What if he said he'd marry her if she gave up smoking? As a request it's little different - both are beneficial to your health and general attractiveness. You can bet your life that wouldn't stir up anything like the kind of anger that this thread has. Yet weight always does. So much pride.
Which is more important? Not being willing ever to make a compromise when you are in the 'right', or being happily married?
The question is whether she is willing to do it or not. Lets forget that it's at his request - after all, you can afford to swallow your pride once in a while. It's not fattening. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:49:34 AM | Men WANT and desire a woman who is IN GOOD SHAPE. That is what a man IS. A man is NOT someone who desires a fat woman.
The thing is it's not just men!!!!!!!
We're all visual creatures, both men and women!
Women want a guy who's in shape and attractive too. They want a guy who's physically active and not a fat-slob couch patato with a beer/pot-belly.
Read the profiles of the women and you'll see for yourself. They want good looks, humour, the 6-pack (abs), etc.
I wouldn't want someone who's unhealthy. IF I did meet a woman who was obese and I did fall in love with her, I would most certainly do my best to help her become healthy.
Like I've said time and time again it's not good to be overweight. Read my first post in here and see what I meantioned about all the health problems or research them yourself! | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:08:13 AM | Cupidstrikes,
What he's doing isn't a motivation, it's a BRIBE! (IF you do this THEN you'll get that)....
If he wanted to motivate her, he would give her the ring regardless, love her the way she is and they can BOTH look out for each other healthwise! THAT'S partnership! Right now, he's just dangling the ring to see if she'll take the bait! Is that love? I think not!
Why should she have to PROVE to him that she loves him by losing the weight in order to get the ring?! If he were really looking out for her, the ring giving wouldn't even come into question! | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:20:08 AM | Nancy, where is it stated in the op that this is what he requires of her to prove her love to him? Sounds to me like they already love each other. We only have one person's point of view. The op and her friend's. Hearsay at best. Yet the majority of you girl's are all over this guy. He's been hen-pecked and doesn't even know it.
You cannot condemn this guy until you hear his side. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:21:01 AM | | Most posts are hearsay. Mostly we only have one persons side... So - going by the facts that we have been given, I would say that if he loves her he loves her. And he certainly wouldn't be giving ultimatums like that. I would ditch the prat and tell him to stuff his engagement ring where the sun don't shine.... | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:21:37 AM | If he wants a thinner women, that's who he should've been dating.
If she takes the weight off, will it stay off? When it comes back, what happens then, being in a marrige with a guy that's not finding her as desirable at that weight? Diet pills are just not the thing to do. Lifestyle changes are.
Besides, he has issues about getting his first marriage anulled. Or maybe the issues are really about getting married to her. And her "desperation" for a ring... This whole thing stinks. | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:28:52 AM | The two issues here that are virtually insurmountable are that HE prefers skinny women and she is a Catholic. If he TRULY loves her he can look PAST the size to the heart! My guess is that he LIKES her a LOT and his demands really show that!
Her need to conform to the demands of her religion will not work for him either... at least that's my feeling! While they have found good companionship in one another, if she has to change her size for him (something that can change at any time) then he'll drop her if she gains the weight back! Stop... there are more men out there who can look past that and see her heart!
People need to have similar values to truly be compatible! | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:31:23 AM | Very true, Mako Sharc...Good Point...
But, that being the case, then the post should've been worded differently, don't you think? I mean, look at the Subject title alone...that, initself gets my gander up (obviously)!
But, trying to view this objectively, I see where you're coming from....
Okay, I've calmed down now....(still upset with Chump 55 though...) | |
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| He Says Lose 30 lbs and He Will Give you an Engagement Ring.....Would Ya????
Posted: 7/24/2007 10:31:40 AM | Why is she risking her life because he's a shallow **stard? 
If he loves her enough to marry her, then he loves her as she is. Period. Love does not come with conditions.
Quite honestly, what I see is a man who cares more about what others think of his arm candy then his "love's" LIFE. Diet pills kill. End of story.
He doesn't love her. He's too shallow and too selfish to love her or anyone else.
She ought to lose about 150lbs... HIM. | |
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