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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/9/2008 10:23:30 AM |
I can always lose weight, but can a miserable person lose their persona?
I guess not. I think it would be a beautiful thing if the name calling and self delusion of thinking oneself as a BBW is reason to admonish those that won't find them beautiful.
It's not that I see fat women as not beautiful, I see anyone that has a self delusional issue as not beautiful.
There are beautiful people that are fat and skinny and every size in between. In fact I see more fat women finding relationships than normal because they are nice and I see women in shape complain about the men that don't think they are as wonderful as they should.
Call me belligerent and miserable if you like but do you think that's going to get you a date or is it just going to show you can use demeaning comentary about someone else? To me it shows that sooner or later, anyone you get involved with will be subject to your demeaning behavior when you don't agree with what they have to say.
As far as Miss Alley, her contract ran out and they didn't renew it cause her marketing value was gone. Who really knows what she is like in real life?
I have not had a working thyroid gland in almost 20 yrs.... and I have dealt with the side effects of the meds, having to switch types because of the side effects
Let's see you have synthroid, and levoxyl or Armor Thyroid as choices for replacing the hormone the thyroid isn't producing anymore. Synthroid and levoxyl are the same compound (T4) made by different companies. Armor thyroid is the same compound (T4) with a bit of T3 mixed in and is extracted from pigs thyroids. As far as I know there are no side effects from any of these drugs and with out them you'll have the symptoms of hypothyroidism.
Exactly what side effects do you think you're having from taking thyroid medicine? | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/9/2008 5:49:45 PM | hey mckevinized - are you on thyroid meds?
I've been on various thyroid meds since they took the thyroid out with the tumor and the cancer. Currently on synthroid and Triordial 3 - I know I spelt that wrong, but it is a compound drug to include the T3 hormone with the T4 in hopes it will give me more energy.
The side effects I experience are joint pain mostly, and because it is a struggle to have consistent levels of the synthetic/replacement hormones in my system I often times go from hypo to hyper.
It's not that I "think" I have these side effects, it is documented that I DO have them. Taking that one step further, it is documented the symptoms are a direct result of the replacement hormones. If you are inferring that this is all in the head, please take it from someone who has struggled with this for 10 years. Replacement hormones for the thyroid is never going to manage the body as the real hormones would. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/9/2008 7:51:20 PM | NO absoutely NOT!
The human body is an engine. Good fuel in, good results out.
Learning how to eat is a simple as changing your mind. Set in our ways we are to repeat cycles that are comfortable. Changing what, when and how much you eat is all a matter desire. I've heard it from so many people who say, "No matter what I do, I can't loose a pound" That's BS! I can show you what foods to eat and in what frequency. In three weeks you'll see massive changes to your body. "All Healthy!"
People the media has you all brain washed. Most people think you need to spend hundreds of dollars purchasing pills, plans, and the latest fad diet. It's all CRAP!
Change your mind and change your eating habits. That's ALL!
For example: Have you ever seen a FAT body builder? NO! They eat darn good and know what to eat to utilize all the organs of their body in harmony, like you should. Remove the excess suppliments, and you've got a menu for success. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 4:48:22 AM |
hey mckevinized - are you on thyroid meds?
Yes I am on the meds and I wasn't implying the pain is in your head.
I take levoxyl and cytomel which are the same as you but from different manufacturers.
Too little of these hormones will cause excess calcium in your system and too little can cause osteoporosis. when I was unmedicated I couldn't hardly walk from the pain and when I am getting too much, I get muscle spasms that mimic joint pain.
I've done lots of research into thyroid conditions and found that much of the documented side effects are faulty in that these hormones are needed in every cell of the body and so just about every symptom you can have can be a result of too much or too little of them. This would indicate that it's not a side effect but a direct effect from taking them and those effects can be managed by altering the doses of the t-3 and t-4. But it's not an easy task to get them right.
t-t has a half life of 6-8 weeks and t-3 has a half life of about 12 hours. The tests for these hormones in the blood measure a range of what is 'normal' and generally doctors have only looked at TSH (from the pituitary) hormones to determine if you are within an acceptable range.
My own experience with these measurements are that I can have hyper and hypo symptoms while still within a normal range of TSH measurements and I discovered the point where I feel best within that range and I manage the symptoms by varying the t-3 intake according to the symptoms rather than depending on blood serum levels.
The most important symptom is basil body temp as that is the first indication to me that something is out of whack.
I was diagnosed in '97 and it took 4 years to bring my TSH back up to a normal range and it's never been stable for longer than 6 months.
t-3 is normally stored in tissues around the body and released into the blood by stress hormones when you need bursts of energy. You are taking the supplement because you are not able to store it properly. So, you are correct in stating this hormone will never be the same as a supliment but, those people that don't need the t-3 replacement still have the ability to call for t-3 from the body's reserves and usually only need a steady replacement for the sluggish thyroid.
Regardless of your condition, if you choose to admonish, mock and insult others you are not beautiful no matter what size your body is. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 6:38:07 AM | Regardless of your condition, if you choose to admonish, mock and insult others you are not beautiful no matter what size your body is.
hey again mackevenized - my intent was not to admonish,mock or insult, but rather add my own 2 cents from my personal experience. I apologize if you felt otherwise.
I may be taking this post off topic, but your research is interesting and right on, at least in my case. When I was diagnosed with they thyroid cancer I was awe struck with just how much of the bodily functions are regulated by that one little gland, and regulating it back to normalcy is no easy feat.
Thanks again for sharing your research with us. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 6:44:33 AM |
Ok, the point of this thread is- do you think there are some people, that regardless of diet & exercise, are pre-destined to be plump after midlife, such as Kirstie Alley? What do you think of her as a weight loss representative, when even w/ her $$, & getting paid to be a spokesperson, she ended up not maintaining her loss...
I thought the company was paying celebrities to lose weight..... such as with Kirstie, Valerie and others before them... Once the weight was lost the endorsements ended and they went forward with someone else. Kirstie and Valerie have kept the weight off, so I don't understand what started this thread about them particularly.....
The company in question has changed it's focus now to promoting a healthy body, not so much a skinny one. Hence the addition of Queen Latifa to the mix. Yes, larger people can be healthier than their skin and bones counterparts, but not if they're sitting on their butts and not taking care of themselves through healthy eating and exercise!
I know that peri-menopause has made it harder for me to maintain my weight and I do mean HARD!!! What used to come off in a week now seems to be giving me a battle of the ages!! But just because something takes longer doesn't mean it's not possible. And I'm sure there are larger, middle aged peeps out there that do have medical conditions that make it near impossible to get to their ideal weight, but it's also not up to any of us to judge one another.
Take care of self, love self and worry about world peace.  | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 7:51:11 AM | hey again mackevenized - my intent was not to admonish,mock or insult, but rather add my own 2 cents from my personal experience. I apologize if you felt otherwise.
I didn't mean to imply you had that intent or that you did any of that stuff, so I apologize for leaving that impression with you but not to those that are guilty of it.
do you think there are some people, that regardless of diet & exercise, are pre-destined to be plump after midlife, such as Kirstie Alley?
OK maybe you didn't get my point.
No you are not predestined to be fat. You might have a medical condition that makes you fat and there's help for that.
If there's no medical condition, and you are fat, you eat too much and/or conduct a sedentary lifestyle.
And I will always reserve the right to judge everybody and everything, as to not make judgments in life is to accept being stupid.
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 9:38:43 AM |
Ya know, some things are certain. Life, death, taxes, and find Mackevinized slamming fat people in a POF thread.
Ya know, every time I use the word fat some delusional lazy fat person will feel offended because I didn't say plump or fluff it up with some other delusional term.
I have nothing against fat people at all, I know some very nice fat people, heck I have extra fat but that doesn't make me decide that some people should love my fat. I don't come up with derogatory names for those that don't agree with me.
Now if there's fat people that are offended that I keep using the word fat, that doesn't mean I'm slamming fat people and I really don't care if they think I'm slamming them because It's not fat slamming. Calling someone a troll is slamming.
So if someone thinks I'm slamming fat people and your fat, they are just feeding their own delusion by thinking I'm fat phobic instead of accepting there's something they can do about being fat.
Count your calories in, put some effort into burning off calories, see a doctor about a screwy metabolism if you don't have enough energy or see a psychiatrist about those delusions.
For all you fat people that are not delusional, I'm not talking about you, you are already struggling with the issue and will probably succeed as you can accept there things to do about it instead of capitulate to the fallacy you're predestined to be fat. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 3:29:16 PM |
Regardless of your condition, if you choose to admonish, mock and insult others you are not beautiful no matter what size your body is.
Which was exactly the point I was trying to make.... you admonish, mock and insult fat people, call them delusional... the list goes on. Being a judgemental person is not pretty... whether you judge them for their body size, their religion, the size of their pocketbook, their home, etc.... it is just shallow, not pretty.
There is a line out of an old song that goes something like "she ain't pretty, she just looks that way". I am trying to make the point that yes, we need to work on WHO we are, not just WHAT we are.... and if we care about the person on the inside, the outside will follow. Yes, it is tougher for some than others, if they have a health condition, a pre-disposition to it, etc.... but then life is harder for some than others.... we are not all given the same burdens and paths in life - nothing we can do about it but deal with it and move on. I found the biggest thing that made the difference for me was just being happy. A friend of mine once said "surround yourself with positive people, and the negative ones will fall by the wayside."..... that goes a long way to being happy. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 4:12:01 PM | you admonish, mock and insult fat people, call them delusional
I'm sorry you can't read what I wrote, I call delusional people delusional whether they be fat, thin or looking like the models in fashion mags.
Only delusional fat people should think I'm insulting them but I'm not really, it's in the nature of their self delusion. They don't realize their delusional because then they couldn't twist what I say into something to admonish me for.
A friend of mine once said "surround yourself with positive people, and the negative ones will fall by the wayside."..... that goes a long way to being happy.
Obviously that friend has no concern for people they judged as 'negative', Eh? | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/10/2008 4:32:44 PM | I'd like to see more of these spokespeople (men or women) focus on healthy bodies, not what is "ideal" by fashion industry. What we need to realize is not one size fits all. I think we need to get off this sick merry go-round of being obsessed with our looks. While we should look the best we can, I think we can get more accomplished in this world, if we quit focusing on how thin/beautiful/young we could be.
As far as the spokespeople go, I felt that Kirstie is a great actress and funny. I didn't really like her too much in the Jenny Craig ads because she came across arrogant. Valerie is ok, but I didn't care much to see the "contest" between her and Kirstie.
I'm happy to see Queen Latifah become their new spokesperson. I find her to have warmth, humor, and she seems down to earth. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/15/2008 8:14:08 AM | | I remember when valerie bertinelli was on ONE DAY AT A TIME. Being about the same age, she was one of my favorites. She was considered to be a bit too heavy for TV even then. I used to keep track of her on the teen magazines etc. Then with her bad marriage to eddie she got depressed and ballooned up. She still was pretty. I love to see her in the commercials and see her before and after. Now their is a glow to her face, pride, happiness. | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/15/2008 8:25:51 AM | | I did want to say one more thing. A few years ago I used to work with a nurse. She was about 100 pounds overweight. She had a beautiful face, wore her makeup very nicely, her hair, smile, mannerisms, etc. But what stood out about her, every shift I ever worked with her, my sides ached at the end of the shift. She found humor in everything. We laughed till we couldnt get our breath. The shift went by so fast. She went to a gastric bypass doctor and had the surgery. He stole her from the hospital to work for him after her surgery was finished. She would stop in at work occassionally and bring her before and after pictures. What I noticed, other than obviously losing a great deal of weight, was her face, as it slimmed down, it looked a lot older, her hair was dull, and her sense of humor was gone. she lost what I thought were her best attributes . | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/15/2008 1:51:31 PM | | Anyone can lose weight....keeping it off is hard. I excerise every single day. Most of the time I am very careful about what I eat. I weigh 134lbs.......I also am all muscle. If I stave myself.....I would never do that to lose weight. My Best friend and myself started this 2yrs ago she weighs 120lbs we wear the same size....because I have muscle and she doesn't muscle up like I do.....I have lost a considerable amount of weight and kept it off for two years........you can lose but keeping it off is work | |
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 2/15/2008 2:30:32 PM |
Obviously that friend has no concern for people they judged as 'negative', Eh?
Sorry, it's *their* choice. And you can't change anyone but yourself. If you actually *could* save them, it would be one thing, but you can't. And they get great joy from dragging others down with them.
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| Middle aged weight loss spokesperson drop-out OR what happened to Kirstie?
Posted: 4/6/2008 1:34:22 PM | Kirstie did announce a "major falling out" with the weight loss program.. people. She had very similar problems while advertising a well-known import store.. remember that?
I think she's very beautiful.. intelligent.. but also.. a bit over-the-top with her stubborn streak. When she says something works or doesn't.. there's NO give or room for bending. That's it! The end!  Bye-bye!
So once again.. kirstie..  | |
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