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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/24/2008 11:43:34 PM | | van, I've yet to hit a woman, but I've been hit by a few. Had to restrain them till they calmed down, and then end those relationships. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 12:09:26 AM | nicklazaro says, ...It is shameful to us and disheartening.
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Shame on her for not parenting, supporting and nurturing her household.
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Disheartening I understand as you too found that you harnessed a dead horse to the carriage.
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.marc, I can imagine if a woman is over-powering a man by size and strength then you would hit your peer to break free. Thats why I referenced typical-males.
as a typical male can best even the above average woman.
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 5:26:54 AM | And don't forget that it isn't necessarily about size and strength. Training and weapons are also a factor. Occasionally you'll hear about some poor **stard getting whacked with a cast iron skillet.
Hell, even if the man is larger and stronger... if he's totally unwilling to be aggressive, and she won't let him leave-- he can take a lot of damage.
Now- does this sort of shit happen often? I'm not sure. I'd like to say no purely on the grounds that I like to think that our society is more civil than that... but I'm sure there are quite a few male victims of spousal abuse on here that could argue the point better than I ever could. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 8:02:07 AM |
What is this about crotch-grabbing?
I only quoted the male equivalent of a rump pinch, which you brought from nowhere. So I should be the one questioning your choice of friends, instead.
And then the reference to a sadistic type?
I don't know what you're talking about. However, the DV statistics show that 60% is male-on-female violence and 40% is female-on-male violence. Therefore, this "sadistic type" is a lot more common than you think.
If my sons were interested in dating such women, I'd make certain they were Black-Belts.
What for? Never mind how much karate they knew, you would teach them to never use it to defend themselves.
However, let me tell you what I see in most posts here: Acknowledgement of female inferiority.
First, the acknowledgement of physical superiority of men over women.
Second, and ore important, acknowledgemen of moral superiority of men over women.
If it were not so, why is the bar set for men a lot higher than for women? Why do people demand from men a degree of self-restraint and self-control (because although it takes self-control not to hit, it takes A LOT MORE self-control not to answer to a hit) that they don't demand from women?
Why do they demand that this type of situations to be solved, instead of by a fight -as it would be between equals-, by "restraining her until she calms down"? Isn't that the way you would control, not an adult but a CHILD? Isn't that an acknowledgement that she should be prevented from harming others and herself, because she can't do it by herself? | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 6:15:15 PM | no women should never hit a man period, its not fair or right and secondly the minute u do so u open urself up to catching one in return....
its not right to hit a girl, but girls don't open that door by swinging on any man i don't care what he says or does to u; unless he is attacking u, if he just pissed u off..let it slide.. real talk.
i have tried to get this across to women and have had to step in numerous times; but there won't always be a guy like me around | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 10:24:40 PM | As a woman myself, I HATE seeing females hit men. It's disgusting, downgrading and says alot about your character and so forth.
If it's playful or as a joke with no intent to injure or humiliate for the purpose of 'I can get away with it cause I have a uterus', then yeah.
My best friend Adrian (not real name) was constantly slapped, hit and just generaly abused by his ex. One night she hit him REALLY hard and I'd had enough of it. I smacked her so hard across the head and knocked her on her arse .
Shocked she asked what I did that for and I just simply replied "Well, how does it feel? Should I go for the face next or are you done being the slap-happy f**k you are?"
Needless to say he dumped her a few days later and her and I are no longer friends. Adrian could have retaliated and a few times I told him to show her what it's like, instead it took me to give her a dose of her own medicine to knock some sense into her and apprently (this coming from people who still talk to her) she hasn't hit her current b/f so far.
I also feel ashamed that I had to stoop to her level to get her to stop, I've never hit another person in anger and I never have wanted to. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 10:34:37 PM | | Any man that hits a woman is a big **** ! If any woman out there gets hit by a man, she should stop seeing him right then, and call the police and press charges ! Men who do that are sick in the head, and need to be punished and need help ! | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/25/2008 10:52:13 PM | ^ What about women!? The topic is "is it ok for a woman to hit a man."
Yes, men are generally bigger and more muscular than women... but this idea that women can hit men is ridiculous. It caters to the idea that women are creatures of pure emotion that will act without thinking. That's the only reason I can see to put up with random acts of violence.
Why is it just "men who do that are sick in the head and need to be punished and need help?" Why isn't it "anyone? " | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 5:41:22 AM | I'd never heard of the Duluth Model.... now I wish I hadn't Googled it.
What about men!? Gaaaah.
Sure, reported cases of domestic violence on males is lower (though I would argue that the reason on this probably isn't that males get abused less) ... but don't they deserve help too?
And looking at their web site, it talks about gender inequality---- doesn't that just perpetuate the inequality? I totally agree that we should protect people from harm, don't get me wrong, but in a lot of cases we have a backwards, biased approach to relationships in general. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 8:33:56 AM | | Look, if a women hits a man, the man shud just laugh and kinda ignore it.. cuz wtf womens shit dont hurt at all why got mad at that? let them slap away all they want its funny :D | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 10:05:48 AM | "LOL I dont think a man needs to be a blackbelt to handle a woman. That was just too funny"
unless she is a blackbelt herself LOL | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 10:26:55 AM | | NO!!!!! It is NEVER ok for a woman to hit a man (unless, of course, she is being abused or attacked - then only to defend yourself and find help right away!). | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 11:02:44 AM | "I'd never heard of the Duluth Model... now I wish I hadn't Google it"
The Duluth Model is the official/state sanctioned approach to deal with the issue of domestic violance.
It's based on the ideology from the feminist's agenda and it successful lobbying's group influence where legislation and practice consider men as always the perpetrators and women are always the victims. In case women are the attacker, it's self-defense upon thread.
It's not based on psychological science that proves women are prone to violance as well as men and women can be so violents as men are.
Reposting my previous msg 754, I repeat: domestic violance is people's problem, not gender specific's problem.
Under Maine's Adoption of Predominat Aggressor Laws when police officers respond to a domestic disturbance call they are instructed not to focus on who attacked whom and/or who inflicts/has inflicted injuries, but instead, considerer the factors like comparable body size, comparable strenght, the person allegedly least likely to be afraid, who has access to control family resources -who makes more money-, etc.
It's not rock science that those factors almost always weigh against men and given those considerations it's very difficult for officers to arrest female ofenders.
It's, for men, like to wipe out the principle of being innocent until proven otherwise. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 1:00:18 PM | | No its never ok just because she is a woman , I have known some women that were as tough as any man , inside and out . So just because its a woman doing the slapping , its not cool or funny .She would do that to me once...second slap or punch ,would come with a price tag..if she wants to act like a lady then I will treat her as such , she wants to act like a man..I will treat her as such also...people need to learn to keep their hands to themselfs period . | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 4:50:13 PM |
I intially joined this topic thinking that the OP was referencing a heated domestic issue that quickly went south. Not, repeat offenders!
And how many men that hit women (other than in self-defence) do you think have a "one-time incident" rather than being repeat offenders?
Just recalled an ex co-worker of mine. She was an angry lesbian bar bouncer. Sure alot of guys could have put her on her back had they not restrained themselves, but there were also alot that didn't have a chance. Her last live-in girlfriend (considerably smaller) eventual left over issues of violence and aggression. Surely you don't suggest that anyone living near her should put up with being assaulted by her and not defend themselves.
Take gender right out of the equation. Then you can see the most sensible course of action. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/26/2008 7:41:45 PM | Violence solves nothing. Therefor, it is never right to initiate violence nor to participate in it.
Killing solves things, usually quickly and without need for debate.
At the end of the day, if you've got to kill a son-of-a-****, it costs nothing to be polite.
I carry a knife. I'm a big guy.
I've only had to show it once, and reach for it a dozen times.
Stops the bullshitting right then and there.
Some jackboot thug dumbass comes up to me "Hey ****er wanna fight", I reach for the knife, put my hand on it, and say "try me".
If someone is *that* angry at you, and isn't a psycho nutcase, then you've done something wrong.
If they are a psycho nutcase, then you've done something to exasperate their psychoneuroses.
In both cases, you've ****ed up; either you need to avoid them or find a way to solve things before the situation gets out of hand. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/27/2008 12:25:44 AM |
Is it ok for a woman to hit a man?
Is this a trick question? Of course its not ok. Its not ok for any adult to hit another adult. Period. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/27/2008 4:46:00 AM | | i think some men will purposefully antagonize women or push their buttons so to speak and try to get them to do what they are used to themselves. domestic abuse comes in all forms, and usually there will be red flags in the beginning telling you so and so would not be good for you. listen to your gut feeling, if you are in a relationship where someone reminds you of an abusive situation, id say run as fast as you can. people can project their problems onto other people often more than we are aware of, and if you sense a persons anger, id say be aware, no matter if they tell you youre wrong or not. some people try to make themselves out to be victims, when really they just reverse the psycology and perpetuate the cycle of domestic abuse. hitting is no right, neither is cheating, neglect, etc. everyone deserves good treatment, look into therapy an dfind out yout own worthiness. whenyou find the same ***hole type knocking at your door, try something different. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:33:20 AM |
i think some men will purposefully antagonize women or push their buttons so to speak and try to get them to do what they are used to themselves.
Curious. I always saw the "hit me! come on, I dare you!", or blocking the exit door when the guy is trying to leave as typical female moves. | |
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