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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/6/2008 8:45:04 AM | Be in a marathon, anybody can be.. run in it, we both seem to agree that takes training...
yes, society as a general remark has fallen into abuse as an accepted behavor... who can say where someone's patterns of abuse began... seeking help is they're only salvation and even then they may be doomed to repeat it... like in many things people tend to take the easy way out... the hard road is too tough for many.. i wouldn't ever say I can stay the course, but I'm sure going to give it the best efforts I can... I also am the guy who breaks when I see the yellow light while it seems the rest of the planet mashes on the gas.. so.. I stop for the train instead of seeing just how super driver i'm not and becomming a train hood ornament.. to me, that's just me... when I was younger I worked fire an rescue, seen too many yellow.. oops red light crashes and listen to too many say... it was still yellow... or ( another example ).. she says'.. i was cussing at him and why did he get all violent at me.. well, it starts with.. don't cuss at each other.. talk with each other, care for each other, really think about what you do an say and consider the effects it has... two guys at a table.. one doesn't think, next thing we're at war.. each boy thinks, i'm so tough.. no i'm tougher... no i'm tougher.. no.. i'm tougher.. give it a rest.. say.. hey.. what do we together need to do.. give alittle.. show understanding for.. compassion for.. love for... does this work in the real world... yes.. but it really takes strong people.. are most strong.. no.. hense... we have abuse an violence... i've seen my share.. i work hard to offset what I run into... the boy at the gas station.. we pulled in at the same time.. each car facing and we both had available pumps.. he jumped out cussing an screaming.. i got out an said.. wow.. dude, sorry your having a bad day.. can i get you a pepsi... it's just a gas station.. and he calmed down.. does that work everytime.. i don't know.. has more then once for me... I didn't escalate.. could he have.. yea, i'm sure he could...
question.. is what we all say here going to make a difference.. ya know.. just maybe... for one.. it's a start...
my nephew ships off soon for Iraq... i gave 6 yrs, 3 of those in southeast asia.. my dad gave 40 yr's ww2, korea an vietman... where does it end.. when do we stop... how do we stop...
i like Chas's concept.. snugglin in a sleepin bag beats sleepin alone anytime anywhere.. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 7:16:01 AM | More shaming language eh? Be a woman and fight your own demons. Nobody wants daddy's little girl
and no one wants a chicken shit for a man john duke. a woman cannot fight a man nor should she have to. however i hope ur lady when u get one can fight a man and well since ur just gonna sit back and watch him beat her and tell her to fight her own demons. what a guy. thank god my guy is nothing like u. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 7:28:18 AM | In a perfect world, neither man nor woman would hit the other. Men wouldn't hit women because men are physically stronger. Women wouldn't hit men...because men are physically stronger.
In one case, the man is inviting contempt to be poured on him. In the other case, the woman is flirting with a potential disaster.
I'd accept a woman slapping me if I'd genuinely, oafishly offended her. It would reassert herself, and give me the lesson, and closure, that I'd need so that further down the line I could say that I'd paid the price. She wouldn't get a second go, though.
But if there's a fight between at least two men, and a woman wades in, fists swinging, then frankly, anything goes. The saying is that you should never hit a lady, but a woman that decides to jump in like that ain't no lady. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 7:42:51 AM | but a woman that decides to jump in like that ain't no lady
your right decker. a lady that hits a man is not a lady. she's disfunctional and a man that hits a woman is a coward. There is absoultely no reason for either to hit the other. I dont care what they have done. leave leave leave..thats whats a person is suppose to do. no need for hitting. its childish.
however the men here who say they would hit a woman or disfunctional female back says alot about the man as to the kind of person he is. I know real men who would never touch a female. they would leave first. those are the good men. the bad ones stay and hit a women. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 7:56:23 AM | however the men here who say they would hit a woman or disfunctional female back says alot about the man as to the kind of person he is. I know real men who would never touch a female. they would leave first. those are the good men. the bad ones stay and hit a women.
Leaving first? Assuming she will let me, I will do that only if it's her house. If it's my house, she will be kicked out to the curb. Not figuratively speaking, of course.
Don't want to be hit back? Don't hit first. And I really doubt any beaten guy will be interested in your definition of a "good man". | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 8:10:56 AM |
Leaving first? Assuming she will let me, I will do that only if it's her house. If it's my house, she will be kicked out to the curb. Not figuratively speaking, of course.
Don't want to be hit back? Don't hit first. And I really doubt any beaten guy will be interested in your definition of a "good man".
Few people have made so much sense in such a short time.
Also, why would anyone leave just because someone hit them? It would mean that the argument would never manage to get beyond that point. Also, guaranteed - it would be taken as a sign of weakness, as so often when someone walks away in that sort of situation. What would stop her from hitting you again, and what would stop her from hitting another, much more dangerous man further down the line? | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 8:26:36 AM | OP
Regarding your quote : "whilst I am not condoning men hitting women, unless the circumstances warrant this".
Let me set you straight, there are absolutely no circumstances that would warrant/justify any man putting their hands on any woman, regardless of the provocation, unless you were defending yourself in a life or death situation. Period.
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 8:47:32 AM | Also, why would anyone leave just because someone hit them?
well duh you leave the person if u dont like the treatment ur getting. common sense. u dont leave to come back later, u leave for good. find someone who does not hit. no need to argue jsut leave her and find a real loving relationshiop as one should have. you ask what would stop her from hitting u agian? well duh if u leave her and find new girlfriend ur done with her. you only get hit again if u stay in such a retarded relationship.
olds.cool is a wise man. read his post.
whats gonna stop her from hitting a more dangerous man down the line u ask?? well who cares. that is not ur problem. thats his and if he is so dangerous i guess he will teach her a thing or two wont he?
I understand the statement if u dont wnat to be hit back then dont hit. i also agree with that statement but it still does not make it right for either to hit to begin with. we are not children. we are adults. people need to act their age | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:07:37 AM | NO!!! Why would it be? If men are punished for hitting the same should go for women.
One of the neighbor girls hits my son alot so I told him to hit her back. He did and all the parent's were outraged. They all say boys dont hit girls under any circumstance...BS! If a girl hits a boy in anger she should expect him to defend himself. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:08:45 AM |
well duh you leave the person if u dont like the treatment ur getting. common sense. u dont leave to come back later, u leave for good. find someone who does not hit. no need to argue jsut leave her and find a real loving relationshiop as one should have. you ask what would stop her from hitting u agian? well duh if u leave her and find new girlfriend ur done with her. you only get hit again if u stay in such a retarded relationship.
olds.cool is a wise man. read his post.
whats gonna stop her from hitting a more dangerous man down the line u ask?? well who cares. that is not ur problem. thats his and if he is so dangerous i guess he will teach her a thing or two wont he?
I understand the statement if u dont wnat to be hit back then dont hit. i also agree with that statement but it still does not make it right for either to hit to begin with. we are not children. we are adults. people need to act their age
Your logical consistency is all over the place. In fact, it's the first time I've ever heard someone wrap up with "people should act their age", after opening with the words "well duh".
Slapping someone isn't the end of the world. You could be walking out of a potentially valuable relationship by walking the very moment that a woman slaps you just once. How the Hell are you going to compromise or change? When I think of my old flame, if she'd slapped me, I'd have been pissed, but there's no WAY I'd walk after just one incident!
Also, in fairness to olds.cool, he comes from a different time. If you're going to take his back-in-the-day attitude to women, you're going to have to admit that you'll be glossing over a LOT of things that have changed and even improved since then as well, simple as that. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:24:57 AM | Slapping someone isn't the end of the world. You could be walking out of a potentially valuable relationship
if you call people hitting each other a valuable relationship than you have real problems of ur own. however if u wnat to stay and be hit over and over again...be my guest. the above poster is right. this question is really stupid.
my logic is not all over the place. here is some logic for you........dont hit and dont be hit. if ur hit leave for good. if u feel the need to hit some female then again..leave. how hard is that for u to comprehend
by the way decker im taking todays attitude. has nothign to do with back in the day. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:32:08 AM | The whole point of survival is you save yourself first, or survive to help others live, thus becoming the hero.
As for hitting anyone, then its a BIG NO NO... unless your survival depends upon it. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:32:55 AM | dont hit and dont be hit.
So why don't you apply this logic to women?
if u feel the need to hit some female then again..leave. how hard is that for u to comprehend
Very hard, so perhaps it's easier for the woman to keep her hands to herself. But hey, why can't he leave? After all, why can't he just leave his house, his children perhaps, his life, everything that is valuable to him? After all, what's a man's life compared to the hurt feelings of a female abuser? | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:34:02 AM |
if you call people hitting each other a valuable relationship than you have real problems of ur own. however if u wnat to stay and be hit over and over again...be my guest. the above poster is right. this question is really stupid.
I think this place needs a "crazy" smilie.
If you mean what you're trying to say, then you're still not making perfect sense, I'm afraid.
Imagine by "valuable relationship", I was talking about ALL of the relationship - the highs, the lows, the bonding, the tenderness, the shared times, the great sex, the promises...ALL of it, APART from the occasion of her mistakenly raising her hand *once*...as if, her slapping you, once, wasn't the WHOLE relationship...
And then imagine that I would disapprove of ANYONE staying in a *persistently* abusive relationship, male or female...
And then re-read my earlier post.
I guarantee, with these simple facts in mind, it will suddenly make a lot more sense to you! | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:59:53 AM | So why don't you apply this logic to women
what do u think i have been saying all along. i do apply it to women very much so.
Very hard, so perhaps it's easier for the woman to keep her hands to herself. But hey, why can't he leave? After all, why can't he just leave his house, his children perhaps, his life, everything that is valuable to him? After all, what's a man's life compared to the hurt feelings of a female abuser?
leaving ur partner who hits you does not mean u leave anyting else and i never said it did. YOU LEAVE THE ABUSER, not kids ,not house.. just get rid of abuser. and yes it woiuld be nice if both men and women could keep their hands to themself. when i say leave i dont mean leave everyting u own ya nutt. i mean leave the abuser. send her on her way. a woman does NOT have the right to slap a man.
and decker yes a relationshiop is not a relationship when one hits the other. there is no love, tenderness, bonding or anyhting else if hittting is happening. there is no relationship period. and thats the end of that. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:21:14 AM | leaving ur partner who hits you does not mean u leave anyting else and i never said it did.
So tell me Einstein: How do you exactly "leave your partner" without leaving the house?
when i say leave i dont mean leave everyting u own ya nutt.
Really? So what exactly you mean: Leave the room and return when she's calm again, until the next time she hits you?
i mean leave the abuser. send her on her way.
Just a silly question: What if the female abuser doesn't want to go on her way? | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:38:16 AM | Is it ok to become so overwhelmed with an individual, who at one time said to act as if you were worth it, that the passion of desiring that individual to ACT according to the words that were spoken was the catalyst that brought another to the point of slapping their face?...repeatedly. This is not to say that the entirety of the circumstance of the action taken by another is the focus of blame. Does not the law of physics dictate that for every action there is an equal and greater reaction? In choosing what to battle...so to speak..and what not to battle, there is an innate tendency to strap on the guns...to coin a phrase...if one has listened CAREFULLY to the words of another and in doing so it becomes increasingly apparent that the biding of time and the smoothness of words are tools of, perhaps, manipulation skillfully utilized in an attempt to accomplish a means to an end. In plain English that should be COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD....words of deception spoken in another's direction may very well result in a repeated slap across the face. Does that answer your question?  | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 11:32:22 AM | How do you exactly "leave your partner" without leaving the house
thats easy u tell her to get out and u and her are over. she cant force u to be in a relationship with her. its called breaking up. when u date a lady and u break up with her do u leave ur home? do u think before u talk hunter? if the house is her place ,then u leave... if the house is ur place, then she leaves. relationship is over and done.
Just a silly question: What if the female abuser doesn't want to go on her way?
she has no choice does she. lol. she cant make u keep her. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 11:37:55 AM | Right off the bat, the answer is absolutely not.
For some, it maybe easier said than done. Every person has their breaking point, and in a very heated argument, restraint may be harder for some than others. In the end, you should treat someone with the same respect that you would want in return. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 12:41:39 PM |
thats easy u tell her to get out and u and her are over. she cant force u to be in a relationship with her. its called breaking up.
That applies only to a no-attachments situation. What about a family, with children? "Domestic violence" has the "domestic" part, you know.
do u think before u talk hunter?
Yes, I do. You should try it sometime. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 12:50:28 PM | Kitten, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
I'm cool with that if you are, but don't ever be deluded into thinking you're contributing anything significant to the discussion.
Cheers. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 8/8/2008 2:10:44 PM | I've been hit by a couple of different women. I didn't like it much and walked away. It ended the relationships. If a woman is going to assume they can hit without repercussions then she's been raised wrong.
If a woman is going to hurt me then I have to stop it. By whatever means are necessary. Using common sense and my training my first choice is to step outside and wait until the coast is clear. If I had no choice then it's not a tit-for-tat slap their face , it is total war until I can stop the assault and walk away.
But usually the man is big enough and strong enough to endure anything a woman is going to throw at him and still be able to walk away. | |
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