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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 5:33:35 PM |
YOU keep saying it's the female on male DV thing. Your post is one sided in that it's addressing mainly the male victims. That's because this thread is entitled "Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?" | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 5:37:06 PM | *sigh* Another stupid thread...
Anyone with a quarter of a brain in their heads would know that it's not ok to hit anyone unless it was out of self defense (with no other options) or if it was consensual (some people like that sort of thing, in which case, to each their own). | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:00:39 PM | YOU keep saying it's the female on male DV thing. Your post is one sided in that it's addressing mainly the male victims.
That's because this thread is entitled "Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Rock Hunter:
Out of everything I wrote this is the one thing that you chose to listen too??? Are you serious??? Nothing else made any kind of impact???
For some reason Rock Hunter I am starting to believe that you might be one of those men who enjoy provoking some women to the point where they would lose control so that they lose control and do strike, thus justifying you hitting them, which is in itself a form of DV abuse.
Just like the women who hit and provoke men and then cry "He hit me", there are men who do the exact same thing. There are men who like to bully and abuse (whether verbally or physically) women to the point the women fight back and then the men say she is hysterical/emotional whatever and all the while he is enjoying his ability to control her and make her react. The same as that bully in the schoolyard who belittles and pushes others till they fight back, and at that point the one who fights back gets into trouble because they hit first.
I don't give a damn, it is wrong (unless in life threatening danger) to hit, whether woman OR man, and to stand there and say she is the abuser because she fought back against a bully who says "put up with it or leave" is crap. There is a very common form of abuse by men that is coming to light much more lately, and that is mental abuse. For a man to humiliate, bully, antagonize, threaten a woman is abuse. Whether it is threats with violence, her children, her home/stability, whatever it may be, it is abuse. So rock hunter if you want to keep playing the it's all about poor men and crazyy psycho witches go ahead. But it's bs.
And for anyone to maintain such a onesided view is unhealthy, doesn't allow growth, and is toxic for any future relationships they may get into.
Of course I could be wrong here, and you may just be one of those poor innocent nice abused guys that mean old woman beat up on.  | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:11:54 PM | Out of everything I wrote this is the one thing that you chose to listen too??? Are you serious??? Nothing else made any kind of impact??? That's the only thing I answered because you said my post was one-sided, so an explanation was in order. About all the other things you said, we mostly agree than male-on-female violence is wrong, and your anecdotes are only that, so what's to discuss in there? What "impact" did you want to have?
Just like the women who hit and provoke men and then cry "He hit me", there are men who do the exact same thing. To provoke is one thing, to hit is another. Don't mix them. To answer with violence to a non-violent provocation is wrong.
There is a very common form of abuse by men that is coming to light much more lately, and that is mental abuse. For a man to humiliate, bully, antagonize, threaten a woman is abuse. If we enter into the mental abuse field, women have a hell of a head start on men. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:19:04 PM |
For some reason Rock Hunter I am starting to believe that you might be one of those men who enjoy provoking some women to the point where they would lose control so that they lose control and do strike, thus justifying you hitting them, which is in itself a form of DV abuse. You do realize you are calling a woman(or man) that pi$$es off their spouse and getting physically attacked over it, guilty of DV? Think before you type.
And Read the OP. Turning it into something other than the subject at hand is thread hi-jacking. He simply pointed out WHY you were seeing mostly one side represented. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:29:28 PM |
I don't give a damn, it is wrong (unless in life threatening danger) to hit, whether woman OR man, and to stand there and say she is the abuser because she fought back against a bully who says "put up with it or leave" is crap. There is a very common form of abuse by men that is coming to light much more lately, and that is mental abuse. For a man to humiliate, bully, antagonize, threaten a woman is abuse. Whether it is threats with violence, her children, her home/stability, whatever it may be, it is abuse. So rock hunter if you want to keep playing the it's all about poor men and crazyy psycho witches go ahead. But it's bs. So for a MAN to threaten a WOMAN's "stability" by threatening to leave her (so she'll have to support herself) if some form of destructive or otherwise unacceptable behaviour doesn't change...... He is mentally abusive? Sounds like crap straight of some feminist e-zine. You have NO right to hit a "bully" that is not physically harming you. Get that through your head. This is how escalation gets out of hand. You also have no right to not expect treatment equal to that which you give (this normally includes both good and bad behaviour). ANd seriously you think this "new" "abuse" is strictly a male thing? No guy ever heard "do as I say or I'll take your kids, your house, your car, and then bang all of your friends"?
I've met far more unstable women than men in my life, perhaps because we make so many allowances for women that act unstable. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:35:37 PM | ok, first of all, what do you mean " am not condoning men hitting women, unless the circumstances warrant" - do you SERIOUSLY feel violence against women is "ok" in certain circumstances? That is such crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Easy girl or we will take away your feminazi gold card. There are many situations where a woman deserves a beating. The number one?....... If that woman is handing you the ass beating of your life it's time to man up and knock her down a notch. If she pulls a gun or a knife on you. If she's on drugs and pulls a gun or a knife on you. So they are all extreme circumstanses but there are times when you have no choice. Some of us men have met some crazy cracked out mentally and emotionally unstable women. As I'm sure you have met some men like that. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:50:02 PM | Men are less likely to report domestic violence then women. Well reality is that there is no "true" equality when it comes to gender issues. Because women are considred more vulnerable than men , they get away with domestic violence( has been like that for many years).My neighbour used to beat the crap out of her husband (using pans and all she can find)...when the husband reorted his wife , he was made fun of..the officer told him ,"so , sure you didnt like the spanking"?
A woman stabs a guy , and he defends himself..the guy is most likely to go to jail . So solution dont date maniacs! | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 6:51:29 PM | Loonytunz - whatever. Arguing this with you is pointless. No it was not my onesided representation as I have tried to point out it is not only women who do this but both men and women. BOTH.
I don't really think that you care to hear anything other then your own opinion so there is no reason to try to communicate with you.
I think that no matter what there will always be those who are abusive, those who are victims, and those who choose to be victims. DV in any shape/form is wrong no matter what. An abuser is defined by their actions NOT their gender. Do you hear/see that??? That is not a onesided statement. That does not stereotype a gender. It is addressing a behavior not a person. Can you do that. Can you see that it is more then just saying why do women or why do men?? And I think until that is accomplished there will always be these things going on.
By the way loonytunz - what do you know about being a DV victim?? Just curious. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 7:00:06 PM | | I wouldn't allow any physical violence from my parents let alone my gf. Any physical contact from my gf and it's the last time she sees me. I have 0% tolerance policy on this. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 7:02:15 PM | You seem to be in the wrong thread. This is dealing with women feeling they have the right by virtue of being female to hit or otherwise abuse men with little to no repercussions. Not a general DV thread. If I recall you actually agreed that this notion was foolish. I'm just not sure why you feel the need to try to hi-jack it and change it into an abusive male situation. You don't like my opinion that is your right, but it is also my right to call out fallacies. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 7:09:09 PM | I can't even believe you posted this.
Coming from a family of hitting - it is so appalling to to me to ever strike ANYONE at ANY TIME unless it's a life or death situation. But in this sense, since you're claiming "hitting", I sincerely doubt that it would be.
That's part of the problem with this society - there is so much violence out there that we as human beings are questioning whether or not it's o.k.
Let's regroup here people. Let's turn our Hate into Love - and let's see what happens... | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/10/2008 7:42:22 PM | So for a MAN to threaten a WOMAN's "stability" by threatening to leave her (so she'll have to support herself) if some form of destructive or otherwise unacceptable behaviour doesn't change...... He is mentally abusive? Sounds like crap straight of some feminist e-zine. You have NO right to hit a "bully" that is not physically harming you. Get that through your head. This is how escalation gets out of hand. You also have no right to not expect treatment equal to that which you give (this normally includes both good and bad behaviour). ANd seriously you think this "new" "abuse" is strictly a male thing? No guy ever heard "do as I say or I'll take your kids, your house, your car, and then bang all of your friends"? I've met far more unstable women than men in my life, perhaps because we make so many allowances for women that act unstable. Sad on so many levels, but I have to agree with the entire post. (I know many stable women, but I know too many of the other types as well.) I have witnessed abuse to a man (no it was not me doing the abusing) and it's horrible. No where to turn, society ignores it/thinks it doesn't happen/finds it implausible....just ridiculous. I think he actually suffered more due to social mores than her mental/emotional/physical tyranny. 
~OT~ Hitting is never appropriate. There are probably justifications (such as self-defense, etc.) but if two people can't talk (not yell/hit/scream/curse) to one another (not AT one another) they shouldn't be together.  | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/11/2008 5:35:28 AM |
Forum Privileges removed for uncivil conduct.- POF 
Hey Looney,
Your handle is one of the most accurate, self-descriptives that I have read in a long time. Let me commend you. The more blurbs that I have read, (that are attributed to you), make it abundantly clear to me now, just how much of a challenge it must have been for someone as mentally challenged as you appear to be. Good for you. The contents of your blurb confirms your mental state, for sure. You are indeed loony. You are also another one who does not know how to mind their own business. I don't recall asking you for your stupid commentary that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread that was posted. You are just a bully, looking for trouble. You are the type of guy who likes to see where he can stick his nose in to raise some controversy. So, that would make you a "Loony Shit-Disturber", and surely you know what happens to those sorts, don't you, (having to deal with those men in the white costs who won't believe you when you scream out that you are sane, while they take you to that familiar padded room).
Just take those meds like the nice Doctor said. You'll be O.K. in a decade or so.
STICK TO THE TOPIC, (even though I am sensitive to the fact that it might be difficult for a looney), but hang in there, don't give up. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/11/2008 5:54:30 AM | | Please be aware that i will not read your post. I will only read the question you ask."is it okay for a woman to hit a man".Wise man told me once, if someone hits you, hit them back.FAIR DUNKUM, what a lame question. | |
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| Is it okay for a woman to hit a man? Posted: 8/11/2008 7:04:03 AM | Thread Closed for Later Review Against the posted Forum Rules
Don't be Surprised at any imposed sanctions if you're in breach of the main ones.
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