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 dolphinsomniac

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Posted: 6/26/2009 10:43:15 PM
I believe you should let ur children make the choice whether or not to be circumsized. Of course most people wouldnt want the most sensitive part of their junk hacked but if they are that worried about shallow peoples' opinions-get it chopped [whoa!
 guyforfun2007

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Posted: 6/30/2009 6:52:36 AM
I think its retarded how ignorant and selfish most people can be.

Here are just some of my opinions and someone who is uncut.

-Its Cleaner: We live in a society now that has far more resourses to keep clean. we have working showers and soap. We dont live in the Wars anymore or places were we are uneducated. Its not hard to keep clean and doesnt take anymore time then it does to wash behind your ears. If a guy doesnt have enough self pride cut or uncut to keep himself clean then he has just as much issues as the people who dont take care of their teeth.

-Its ugly: We as men are suppose to love a woman regardless of her hieght, weight, race, flaws. But there are so many standards set for a woman to love a man. Its only skin!!! Vagina lips are only skin!!! Lips are only skin!!! Our body is covered and layered with skin!!!

-Its a higher risk for aids: This is by far the most childish most retarded thing ever!!! wether your cut, or uncut, and dont wear a condom and sleep with dirty chicks, YOU CAN RISK AIDS!!! Everytime you have Sex with a new partner youre at risk. Its not like a doctor tells a cut guy he has aids and the guys says; Thats impossible, Im circumsized.

Back to the looks of it. Ive seen in porn cut guys with the most horrible looking scars and off/multi coloured penis.

Has anyone ever watched alot of brandi belle videos. 80% of the guys in those vids are uncut, and she loves playing, sucking, and riding them.

I havenever had a problem. I have come accross girls who had never had uncut before and were curious about me. they would spend hours just examining it, sucking it, playing with the skin. They all end up loving it in the end. Saying how theres so much more sex appeal to it. How its easier to give a guy a hand job.

Im not taking sides here but all Im saying is; ITS A PENIS!!! Every Vagina is different, Every Penis is different, some people have more webbing between there toes and fingers than others, some people have more foreskin than others.

Less and less mothers are getting their sons circumsized. So in the future when another iceage comes, it will be the ones with turttlenecks that will survive ;)

Love it however it looks. Its only a penis!!!
 thinkboy

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Posted: 6/30/2009 7:34:49 AM
Wow, just wow. I never thought I'd actually read guys insulting each other and claiming they have a better penis because of the forskin(or lack of it) Oddly enough it's mostly the uncut guys on this thread claiming they are some kind of sex gods, really all the testosterone is getting to your heads(that's for all of you)


Dude who said us cut guys are angry bomb droppers, really? Do you know me? Do you know if I support war in any way? I'd love to hear your feelings on current world events, or your opinion on Hiroshima. Most people I meet justify most world conflict, I am anti war and have vocally opposed funding any "surges" of troops in any other peoples sovereign nations. What do you support, eh? Oh, wait I'm sure your comfot level would go down if you didn't have cheap ass fuel so that is reason to murder millions in the middle east right?


To the guy saying us jews are drug addicts trying to get everyone hooked. **** you. No really, go tie a noose around your neck and jump off a bridge. I don't personally care if you like or dislike the medical procedure if you are a racist or anti-semite you shouldn't be posting on a site that has people from all around the world on it.


To the OP- yeah it "seems" to be abnormal in the US to be uncut but the trend has been changing. Personally, my oldest is not cut but my youngest is. He had medical problems with his forskin right off the bat and needed something done about it. He was actually in pain from the tightness. I felt bad having it done but I felt worse knowing he was suffering and couldn't be comfortable in his own skin. He actually had a half circ, just enough to release the tention.



I will never understand why people get their kids done who aren't religious. Here is the part of the bible requesting his people to enter the Covenent:
God [then] said to Abraham, 'As far as you are concerned, you must keep My covenant — you and your offspring throughout their generations. This is My covenant between Me, and between you and your offspring that you must keep: You must circumcise every male. You shall be circumcised through the flesh of your foreskin. This shall be the mark of the covenant between Me and you. 'Throughout all generations, every male shall be circumcised when he is eight days old. [This shall include] those born in your house, as well as [slaves] bought with cash from an outsider, who is not your descendant. [All slaves,] both houseborn and purchased with your money must be circumcised. This shall be My covenant in your flesh, an eternal covenant. The uncircumcised male whose foreskin has not been circumcised, shall have his soul cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant. (Genesis 17:1-14)[1]

If you follow the biblical text then you clearly believe that this isyourway to keep your Covenent with God. If you don't even believe in God thenwhy get cut?!
 chms28

Joined: 7/14/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2009 1:33:26 PM
I just love having foreskin lol
 Wishes Granted

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Posted: 6/30/2009 1:44:21 PM

If you follow the biblical text then you clearly believe that this isyourway to keep your Covenent with God. If you don't even believe in God thenwhy get cut?!
Well.. at 8 days old.. how the hell can they defend themselves? Male babies are at the mercy of their parents religious beliefs.. whether they themselves actually practice the religion or not.
 MadMicko

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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:07:44 PM

I just love having foreskin lol

Me to, I wouldnt want mine any other way. Never had a complaint so Im happy
 septjan

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Posted: 6/30/2009 3:28:43 PM
i am cut and my brother isnt he also complains about cleaning it all the time said he wishes he was cut. but when you get older it is very painful to get cut. i am glad i was cut
 guyforfun2007

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Posted: 6/30/2009 3:35:07 PM

brother isnt he also complains about cleaning it all the time


Does he also hate cleaning the rest of his body all the time?

Its no different than cleaning behind your ears.

Ive also heard stories from girls that have been with cut guys that smell and taste pretty bad.

Just cause your cut doesnt mean you dont have to clean it.

GROW UP!!!
 Wild DNA

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Posted: 6/30/2009 3:44:54 PM
cjgregory..page 1, msg. 6 LMAO

I never laughed so hard in my life! I know its not funny but you sure know how to give a good visual.
 papa1973

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Posted: 6/30/2009 4:15:40 PM
I was taken to be "cut" at the age of 5 or 6 by my mother.

Yes it was painful. No I don't regret it.

From my point of view she basically did me a favor, pain is nothing, it goes away.

Of course its difficult for a mother to watch, but you're not doing it for fun.

Your little man can handle it even if you get all mushy and emotional about it.

When he's 20 and his HIV test comes back negative, he'll be like "thanks ma"
 guyforfun2007

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Posted: 6/30/2009 4:33:23 PM

I was taken to be "cut" at the age of 5 or 6 by my mother.

Yes it was painful. No I don't regret it.

From my point of view she basically did me a favor, pain is nothing, it goes away.

Of course its difficult for a mother to watch, but you're not doing it for fun.

Your little man can handle it even if you get all mushy and emotional about it.

When he's 20 and his HIV test comes back negative, he'll be like "thanks ma"


Just being cut doesnt make you immune to HIV bud.
 roninvince

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Posted: 6/30/2009 4:34:29 PM
papa1973, being circumcised does not, in any way, prevent HIV; please check your facts.

sepjan, considering that the average male spends more time cleaning his genitals than any other area of his body, I sincerely doubt that your brother would actually object to it either.
 rhodax

Joined: 6/11/2009
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Posted: 6/30/2009 4:57:21 PM
While waiting for the brow to open (let us off ship) we were sitting around the engineers mess shooting the breeze. I forget why but someone brought up circumcisions and one of the guys say "I'm glad my parents didn't get me circumcised, no way would I want the head of my prick cut off".

I'm not kidding! We have no choice but to shower together so we all looked at him and a compassionate master killick explained to the 25 year old that he WAS circumcised and what circumcision actually is.

He turned 10 shades of red all at the same time. Reminded me of a cuttlefish stalking prey.
 nikcy2060

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Posted: 6/30/2009 5:34:06 PM
Wow this thread has gotten pretty sad. Funny story from the guy above me though, i'm uncut but i thought the same thing when i was a little kid, then sex-ed class happened. Eitherway i don't know what it's like to have a cut one but i doubt its a huge difference to women. I never even thought about being self-conscious about it until i saw this thread, and i'm not gonna start now. A**** a****lol, everybody should chill out and start worrying about other things.
 papa1973

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Posted: 6/30/2009 5:53:22 PM
"Several types of research have documented that male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex."

This quote is from the Centers for Disease Control.

Most of the "anti circumcision" hysteria is from closet haters in Europe who want to get rid of this "barbaric practice" because it's supposedly a "Jewish thing." (not saying YOU guys here)

Its your progeny do what you want, but the numerous health benefits IMO outweigh any namby-panty "but won't the baby cry" objections.

Yes he'll cry. He'll scream. And his pee pee will be in pain for 2 days.

And then he'll grow up, forget the pain and say "Thanks dad for not punking out."
 MsMicki

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Posted: 6/30/2009 6:12:37 PM

"Several types of research have documented that male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex."

This quote is from the Centers for Disease Control.


Honey, for every article like this, there are two more that contradict these studies.


The fact that HIV/AIDS is still rampant in the US (one of the most circumcised countries) proves that circumcision does not reduce the risk. The only way to prevent or reduce the risk of STD's and AIDS is to wear condoms! And even that is not a guarantee!

and as for my "taste" in cut vs uncut......ALL penises are wonderful!
I couldn't even imagine turning a man away because of a choice his parents made.
 *Respited*Heart*

Joined: 9/19/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2009 6:18:22 PM
I don't have a say in the matter. The body part comes with the mind and heart.

However..........if I were to come across a man in his natural state....I'd think I was one of the luckiest women in the world!!!!


 flipwutever

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Posted: 6/30/2009 9:42:56 PM
I'm not sure, but probably some guys here might shed light to this issue. I had my circumcission when I was 14. My dad told me that it's better when you have sex because of certain things like being clean and nothing gets on the way during penetration. But on the other hand, some of my uncut friends told me that they have this nasty odor hidden in it no matter how well they wash it. They even told me that they have this cheese head kind of happening somewhere. They all decided to get the procedure after they couldn't stand the odor any longer. They also added that no matter how much they wash it, the odor excreting from it just is too apparent to the girl. One of my friends even did the procedure at 24. And he said that sex felt better after. I don't know if it's justification of not going thru the pain or inconvenience of having the procedure that men just defend their uncut penis or maybe there is truth behind their claim. Please explain.
 marissa-christine5

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Posted: 7/1/2009 12:27:42 AM
Well I honestly prefer cut to uncut. It's just so rare for me to see a guy uncut. But I have to be truthful the best lover I ever had was uncut sex for us was extra amazing just because we were both extra-sensitive to things. But I still prefer cut to uncut. lol
 HazelRose

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Posted: 7/1/2009 12:47:55 AM
Snipped or Sheathed, if the lady is stimulating the guy, one should see just a head peeking up at you! LOL

Best lover was Snipped, but the Sheathed One was ok. I really did not notice a difference. Then again, I am into medicine, so if any of those "packages" were unhealthy, they would never have met me.
 GoodWitchBeth

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Posted: 7/1/2009 12:55:53 AM
Had both and much prefer a cut man to an uncut one. Just my preference. It is nicer IMO to give oral to, looks nicer, and when giving oral, I can use more tongue action without all that extra skin in the way. It also is cleaner on most guys...even the guys who take good care of themselves have issues and are more likely to pick up yeast and other smelly things....I say this as a woman who was with an uncut man for quite a while, and although he was very clean, he was constantly having to treat for yeast in the summer.
Circumsizing ones-self is a personal decision. If done as a baby, yes there are a few moments of pain, but the child never remembers it, and it makes care and cleanliness much easier for the rest of his life. Doing it as an adult is more painful and a much more complicated procedure. I have never heard of anyone saying they regretted being circumsized as a child, but I have known quite a few men who wished they had been.
There is a theory that un-cut men have more sensation during sex, but that is unproven.
Beth
 oregonsaint

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Posted: 7/1/2009 1:18:14 AM
I personally take isssue with anyone cutting off part of my Johnson. I think I will keep him as he was meant to be....complete!
 windloverr

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Posted: 7/1/2009 1:24:46 AM

"There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action." Goethe

The ignorance displayed on this topic is absolutely frightening. Circumcision is an arcane practice with extreme risk for little to no gain.

Where it all began: In the mid-1800’s circumcision was endorsed to prevent masturbation, which some doctors claimed caused many diseases, including epilepsy, tuberculosis and insanity. The reasoning here was that in institutions insane patients masturbated frequently therefore, frequent masturbation led to insanity. In 1891, P.C. Remondino advocated circumcision to prevent or to cure alcoholism, epilepsy, asthma, hernia, gout, rheumatism, curvature of the spine, and headaches.

85% of the world's males have NOT been circumcised. The practice hit its zenith in this country in the 1960's and 1970's when 90-95% of all males were circumcised. The National rate in 2006 has dropped to 56.1% (National Hospital Discharge Survey) and varies by region with the lowest in the West at 33.8%.

1975 that the American Academy of Pediatrics came out in opposition, arguing that good personal hygiene would offer all the advantages of routine circumcision without the attendant surgical risk. The AAP has not altered in their statement; and repeated this pronouncement as recently as 2005.


American Medical Association: Report 10 of the council on Scientific Affairs (1999-2000) http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13585.html The following are excerpts from this report.

Of physicians performing circumcision, 45% use anesthesia, (55% used NO anesthesia! This was 1999 I don’t know what current stats are.)
The British Medical Association has a longstanding recommendation that circumcision should be performed only for medical reasons.
Urinary Tract Infection: …Depending on the model employed, approximately 100 to 200 circumcisions would need to be performed to prevent 1 UTI.
Penile Cancer: Penile cancer is a rare disease in the United States (0.9 to 1 per 100,000). Among uncircumcised men the incidence is estimated to be 2.2/100,000…Nevertheless, because this disease is rare and occurs later in life, the use of circumcision as a preventive practice is not justified..
Human Immunodeficiency Virus Infection and Sexually Transmissible Diseases: …behavioral factors are far more important risk factors for acquisition of HIV and other sexually transmissible diseases than circumcision status, and circumcision cannot be responsibly viewed as "protecting" against such infections.
[JAMA. 2008;300(14):1674-1684. Conclusions Pooled analyses of available observational studies of MSM (Men having Sex with Men) revealed insufficient evidence that male circumcision protects against HIV infection or other STIs. (Sexually Transmitted Infections)]

Conslusions:Virtually all current policy statements from specialty societies and medical organizations do not recommend routine neonatal circumcision,
A majority of boys born in the United States still undergo nonritual circumcisions. This occurs in large measure because parental decision-making is based on social or cultural expectations, rather than medical concerns.



From the CDC….In large studies of infant circumcision in the United States, reported inpatient complication rates range from 0.2% to 2.0% [1, 14, 15]. The most common complications in the United States are minor bleeding and local infection.
It said “MOST COMMON COMPLICATIONS”, it did not say ONLY complications. Common things happen commonly; of course minor bleeding and local infection are going to be “most common”; and they don’t even consider PAIN and INFANT DISTRESS; because these are universal; they happen EVERY TIME.
An excerpt from the most recent study I could find; from the journal Pediatrics: NNT = Number Needed to Treat i.e. how many circumcisions would you need to perform to prevent one occurrence of a particular problem.


NNTs to Prevent Undesired Outcomes
… In the case of UTI (Urinary Tract Infection) in the first year of life, … 100 children need to be circumcised to prevent 1 UTI. For penile cancer, although the association with circumcision status remains controversial,1222-24 conservative estimates (based on life table analyses and assuming circumcision to be 100% effective at preventing penile cancer), suggest a NNT of 909. 24,25 Data for the reduction of the risk of human immunodeficiency virus exist, but have been derived from very different populations than US adults and have led to conflicting conclusions.11,26,27 Data from a sexually transmitted disease clinic suggest that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting syphilis,10 although results from a population-based study appear to refute this association.28 Moreover, sexual behavioral practices remain the most important modifiable risk factor for sexually transmitted diseases

Circumcised: 130,475 Complications: 287 (0.22%) HEMORRHAGIC: Intraoperative bleeding 209; Hemorrhage control 12; Suture of artery or vein 9; INJURY: Penile repair 23; Suture penile laceration 29; Wound-penis 3; Reconstruction of penis 1; INFECTION: cellulites 2
Not Circumcised: 223,822 Complications: 33 (0.01%) HEMORRHAGIC: Intraoperative bleeding 30; INJURY: Wound penis 1; INFECTION: cellulites 2


Because circumcision is not a lifesaving procedure, and its modest medical benefits may be offset by its complications, its indications are discretionary.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/105/1/S2/246


The probability of complications are 2,200% more likely with circumcision!!! WHAT THE HE[L IS “WOUND PENIS” and “RECONSTRUCTION OF PENIS”? and these were for a NON-MEDICALY indicated ELECTIVE procedure!

From CIRP

Does infant circumcision have risks?
Circumcision is surgery, and like all surgery it has risks. These include:
o Excessive bleeding
o Injury to the glans
o Infection (raw wound is exposed to feces and urine in diaper)
o Complications from anaesthesia, if used
o Surgical error, including removal of too much skin
o In rare cases, complications can be life-threatening.
The study didn’t even consider the following
Up to 20% of circumcised males will suffer from one or more of the following complications, to some degree:
o Meatal stenosis (narrowing of the urethral opening due to infection and subsequent scarring, that occurs almost exclusively in circumcised boys) [15]
o extensive scarring of the penile shaft
o skin tags and skin bridges
o bleeding of the circumcision scar
o curvature of the penis
o tight, painful erections
o psychological and psychosexual problems [21]
The surface of the glans becomes dry if not protected by the foreskin. It is believed that dryness and abrasion may cause progressive loss of sensation in the glans, especially in later life. Circumcised men on the whole do enjoy sex and are able to orgasm.

If you want numbers and evidence: http://www.cirp.org/ (Home Page)
http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ (Lit. Review)
(YES, this is a near militant anti-circumcision organization; however, they post links to the ACTUAL RESEARCH. You can discount the site; but you can’t discount the data)
 js6seaj

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Posted: 7/1/2009 2:35:26 AM
I personally am un-circumcised I have no idea if it makes a difference.
 pub_genius

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Posted: 7/1/2009 4:48:02 AM
Most men here in the UK (myself included) are uncircumcised.

I find it to be a strange, barbaric practice against defenceless babies (for the most part).

If you are an adult and wish to have it done, fine. But to do it to babies against their will and without their consent (obviously) is disgusting. There are no benefits at all in carrying out the procedure.

There is no way I'd have done without mine, there are many, many negatives and no positives arising from circumcision.
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