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Posted: 7/24/2009 9:02:26 AM | I don't know why people are still stating that you would lose feeling being cut. even in this thread a few dozen men that have been cut LATER in life and not at birth have contested that there was no feeling change, and if anything there was MORE feeling. So there you have it, it doesn't reduce the pleasure received or given. Most women replying have said they prefer cut.
Some argue that since it's cut, it is rubbing against everything and not as sensitive anymore (some even think this makes them better lovers cause they have to go slow as to not rip their foreskin) but the truth is your foreskin is rubbing against your penis all the time, it's always touching and applying pressure to the penis. if anything, being cut allows a man to be more liberal with his thrusts, starting of as fast or as slow as he/she pleases without worry of hurting themselves. sometimes it's desired to start off slow by women, sometimes they just want you to get in there and get to business. so being cut really opens up that versatility with ease ;p
A few have stated that if you clean yourself properly, cut or uncut you shouldn't have a problem. That is mostly true. But I would think that an uncut man would get dirtier quicker than a cut man simply because he has a moist warm crevice which is perfect breeding ground for bacteria, hence smegma. So while both may be clean after a shower, by the end of the day who has the smegma? remember, even if you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there, many uncut clean men say it can smell by the end of the day. even though there is room for you to piss, you're still going to get some urine trapped in your foreskin no matter how careful you are which serves to feed the bacteria and smell even more. I have also heard from many woman that they prefer the taste of cut to uncut, even if both are perfectly clean there is a different taste, which is probably produced by the foreskin itself. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 10:25:15 AM | First of all. Unless they have had their clitoral hood removed, EVERY woman here HAS a FORESKIN covering her clit! Obvioulsy, if you don't know this, you must never clean it. (how would you clean something you don't know exists?)
Lets get some facts. The head of a penis is DRY, It has no mucus glands like a vagina. So the foresking would be over a dry head. Much less conditions for odor.
Being external and without mucus secretions, cleaning a penis is very easy. Lets go to a drugstore. LOTS of feminine Deoderants. NO penis deoderants. Why do you think that is?
As far as looks. Have you women taken a good look at your own sex "parts?" Wrinkled up and shriveled looking "meat curtains" that hang out like hemmoroids. There are plastic surgery procedures to make a **** look better. None that I know of for a penis. Again, why do you think that is.
As far as infections, lets go to the drugstore again. Good selection for vaginal infections and problems. None for a penis. Why do you think that is?
Lets face it ladies, you got a defective piece of engineering. If nature didn't instill such a strong urge for men to procreate, you wouldn't be able to give that thing away! lol | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 10:52:13 AM | Ted, wake up...women don't have to clean their clitoral hood. At least I've never had to. Nothing ever gets into it. It's attached to the clitoris itself. Lousy comparison once again.
Let's get some facts straight you say? Okay, let's! The head of the penis is NOT dry, it has an opening that allows for urine and semen to pass. In case you were not aware, this isn't always a neat and tidy procedure where some elusive valve shuts in any secretions. Men have pre-ejaculate as lubricant and that gets under the foreskin along with the urine and whatever he has left from his sexual activity. Give that a few hours in a moist environment (the lovely foreskin trap) and you have a nasty odour.
I really didn't see how it was necessary for you to be so derogatory toward the female genitalia. It's nothing more than a demonstration of your disdain for it. How flattering for you.
And as far as infections, maybe YOU need to get YOUR facts straighter. I don't get infections. The last time I got a yeast infection (which males can also get but scratch their balls endlessly rather than getting it treated) was because I was taking the birth control pill which upset my natural hormonal balance. Antibiotics also cause this. Men get jock itch...but oh wait, they are dry so that's impossible right?
Your argument sucks, holds very little validity and probably just indicates that you are pissed that not all of us women find your foreskin very erotic.
And that vagina you so disdain bought you entry onto this planet. I would think you'd have just a little more respect for your mother than you demonstrate.
Sounds to me like you have misogynistic tendencies. What a turn off. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 11:01:23 AM | | My penis is not that sensitive when I am having sex but after I have sex my penis gets super sensitive then I want to have more sex. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 11:11:53 AM | There isn't a difference. Guys will be extra cautious with cleanliness. But cleanliness should be at the fore front for men and women. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 11:22:01 AM | I'm just a little curious as to where you think all these bodily fluids that come out of the penis on cut men is ending up, does it run down their legs, perhaps it evaporates? Perhaps they clean themselves? Apparently all uncut men don't know how to wash, so after urinating, having sex etc. they take all those fluids and tuck them up under their foreskin, leaving them there to fester for hours creating a nasty odour.
Give that a few hours in a moist environment (the lovely foreskin trap) and you have a nasty odour.
Again, I guess this has to do with these men that don't wash? Where the heck are you women finding these men?
Exact same thing happens to the vagina if it isn't properly taken care of. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 11:50:29 AM | Miss, The clitorial hood covers the clit, hence the name "hood." and don't you think the foreskin is attached to the penis?
The end of the foreskin is open and in lots of males does not completely cover the head. Some urine and secretions get under the skin and cause odor but there is far less potential odor than the labia between the outer lips constantly bathed in mucus from the vagina. (warm, moist and dark) In your rebuttal you haven't explained why the disparity between feminine deoderants and penile deoderants. (lots of feminine deoderants, NO penile deoderants) Some women must think they need them or they wouldn't be making them.)
I tell it like the impartial observer I am. I tell it like it is. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 2:55:27 PM | | miss_contemplative: if thats the case then just go get your labia trimmed with a scalpel before you say its ok to mutilate baby boys. I don't care if 6,000 girls get circumcised or not as baby boys have been mutilated because of feminist women like you. Its plain and simple, don't volunteer for little boys to get their genitals mutilated unless you are willing to do the same thing. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2009 3:23:32 PM | Ted, there is no such thing as "impartial" when it comes to observing anything. Nothing exists apart from our perspective of it. But there is one objective claim we can all agree on and that is to address those who've actually had it done! They are the only ones qualified to decide whether it's a tragedy or not and a violation of their rights.
There will always be two camps on this issue and I don't pretend I can change that.
I know of few men who are in therapy because we removed their foreskin. Do you know of any?
You can argue till you're blue in the face. I am not saying that there are not advantages to cut and uncut, as they both have pros and cons.
But in my experience (and I'm not exactly a wallflower variety) those who are cut are more pleasant smelling, less apt to irritate the shit out of my vagina and more apt to get approval because of my very biased perspective which I readily concede to.
We also have wisdom teeth which we no longer require. Would you say it's a tragedy to have those removed too?
And July 2nd, you wouldn't know what feminism was if it bit you in the face. But if you ever want to get circumcised, I'd be happy to accommodate you for some odd reason. Can anyone say ouch? All together now...
And if my labia were a pain in the a$$ for my partner, YES, I would have them trimmed to accommodate. There are worse things in life than having bits of skin removed.
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Posted: 7/24/2009 5:16:14 PM | | Ted explained it to a tee. All women have hoods that cover their clit. Its the same thing as a man thats in intact. If u look at it all-the clit is identical to the head of the penis on a man. This why i dont understand why people try to compare female circumcision to male circumcision. If a woman gets oral from a guy and attacks the clit-i would like to think that when she washes she's cleanin the hood that covers her clit. If not the mouth being one of the dirtiest parts of the body with give that female some type of bacterial infection. Its the same its the same its the same-no matter how many ways u look at it. If women had the procedure done and only the hood of their clit was removed-it would be less sensitive-because its exposed to the clothes she wears everyday. The hood helps preserve | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 1:00:25 PM | | . The foreskin in men is like the clitoris in woman it has a richer variation and greater concentration of erotic nerves than any other part of the penis. The foreskin contains 20,000 erotic nerve endings the gland (head ) contains 4,000 If you cut off a woman’s clitoris she would still be able to feel in her vaginal opening and have a vaginal orgasm just like if you cut off a male’s foreskin he can still feel in the gland (head ) and he can still cum but both sexual enjoyment is greatly demised amount compared to normal. The penis loses sensitivity since 80% of the nerves and nerve endings are destroyed. If you are circumcised on under side of your penis ware the head splits there is a piece of skin that goes from the head to your scar it is what is left of your foreskin touch it then the gland (head) and see witch is more sensitive What nerve endings there are in the gland after circumcision become buried under a layer of hardened skin.. A man who was circumcised as an adult has complained that it now feels "like having sex with an elbow" so little of feeling compared to what he had before circumcision. Another one said sex before circumcision on a scale of 1 to 10 felt like 11 after circumcision it barely made a 3 Decreased penile sensitivity and increased erectile dysfunction were the most frequent complaints reported by men who were circumcised "I'm not surprised that so many of the men in this study reported a loss of sensitivity," said skin sensitivity researcher Dr. Morris Sorrels, M.D. "I've found the same reduction in my preliminary study on penile touch sensitivity, comparing circumcised and normal men. Circumcision removes approximately 80% of the fine-touch nerve receptors in the penis. Circumcision changes the penis from one of the most sensitive parts of the male body into one of the least sensitive. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 3:26:02 PM | | Some parts of the world aren't really into circumcising for whatever reason. I do feel that there is HUGE difference. It may all look the same when a man is aroused but there is DEFINITELY a difference as far as techniques to get the person off if they're circumcised versus not | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 6:57:07 PM | Most women replying have said they prefer cut. Mostly american women, I bet. A cultural thing. They have been raised to think the foreskin is gross. Euro girls aren't so disgusted.
Some argue that since it's cut, it is rubbing against everything and not as sensitive anymore but the truth is your foreskin is rubbing against your penis all the time, it's always touching and applying pressure to the penis. They work like eyelids. Feel the same on the outside, protect the head from friction and keeping it moist and sensitive.
This is fab.
Also you know how sensitive your eyelids are? Foreskins are like that except there is much more of it. Sensitive and therefore valuable in it's own right. You know, like a woman's nipples. Not necessary to get off, but better if they are there.
being cut allows a man to be more liberal with his thrusts, starting of as fast or as slow as he/she pleases without worry of hurting themselves. why do think that is?
Some argue that since it's cut, it is rubbing against everything and not as sensitive anymore oh
A few have stated that if you clean yourself properly, cut or uncut you shouldn't have a problem. That is mostly true. But I would think that an uncut man would get dirtier quicker than a cut man simply because he has a moist warm crevice which is perfect breeding ground for bacteria, hence smegma. etc. etc. A vagina is a thousand times harder to keep clean than an uncircumsized wang. People who think an uncircumcised wang is dirty or gross, what do you think of vaginas? Foreskins are natural, people.
BTW, I'm not knocking women, I'm just saying we aren't breeding grounds of mank like some think we are. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 8:53:45 PM | | I can guarantee in 20-25 years when most of the younger men are NOT circumcised in North America...you'll see women changing their tune..... | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 1:18:01 AM | | To me circumsised is way more aesthetically pleasing, looks nicer, feels nicer, smells nicer. Sorry but even the cleanest non circumsised guys I've dated still don't smell clean, and that grosses me out quite a bit. I'm not a religious person at all, so that has no factor in my opinion, but I probably would want my child circumsised. | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 4:25:05 AM | Come on folks, when I read through some of the opinions here, especially those who are claiming first hand experience. I have to wonder on what are you basing your view. How many partners have you really had in your rather short lifetime of both circumsised and uncircumsised men?
Surely you haven't been sniffing and inspecting every male you've met in your life to get a fair assessment of which is better. Are you polling your partners asking them how frequently they wash behind their foreskins, and what problems they may have had in life? I seriously doubt some of the posts have many experiences to draw conclusions.
So do tell how many of each have you been involved with to arrive at your determinations "ladies"? | |
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Posted: 7/28/2009 8:35:23 AM | Sorry but even the cleanest non circumsised guys I've dated still don't smell clean, and that grosses me out quite a bit.
Get real...like you've had a whole bunch of uncut guys in your 25 years of life....wouldn't you think a guy would sound like an idiot griping about how your twat stinks? You women sound like the hygene police....try a little more tact....
To me circumsised is way more aesthetically pleasing, looks nicer, feels nicer, smells nicer.
In other words...you were born in a culture that embraces it so that's just what you're used to...but to just say that would sound mindless so you try to justify it with rational thought....aesthetically pleasing???? please....that's just too funny!
On the right man...you'll take it foreskin and all and love it...that's just the way it is...it's just too bad that you also live in a culture that embraces ego so most men your age are too proud to admit they could learn a thing or two in the bedroom..... | |
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Posted: 7/29/2009 10:02:26 AM | Me thinks everyone needs to lighten up; does it really matter what your dingaling looks like. Whether or not you wear a cap doesn't change what's in your head, i.e. if you have one. Imagine......
A cop stops a Harley for traveling faster than the posted speed limit. So he asks the biker his name.
"Fred," he replies.
"Fred what?" the officer asks.
Just Fred," the man responds.
The officer is in a good mood and thinks he might just give the biker a break and write him out a warning instead of a ticket
The officer then presses him for the last name. The man tells him that he used to have a last name but lost it. The officer thinks that he has a nut case on his hands but plays along with it. "Tell me, Fred, how did you lose your last name?"
The biker replies, "It's a long story, so stay with me. I was born Fred Dingaling. I know - a funny last name. The kids used to tease me all the time. So I stayed to myself, studied hard and got good grades. When I got older I realized that I wanted to be a doctor. I went through college, medical school, internship, residency, and finally got my degree, so I was Fred Dingaling, MD."
"After a while I got bored being a doctor, so I decided to go back to school. Dentistry was my dream! Got all the way through school, got my degree, so then I as Fred Dingaling, MD, DDS.
"Got bored doing dentistry, so I started fooling around with my assistant and she gave me VD. "So now I was Fred Dingaling, MD, DDS, with VD.
"Well, the ADA found out about the VD, so they took away my DDS. Then I was Fred Dingaling, MD, with VD.
"Then the AMA found out about the ADA taking away my DDS because of the VD, so they took away my MD leaving me as Fred Dingaling with VD.
"Then the VD took away my Dingaling, so now I am just Fred."
The officer walked away in tears, laughing... | |
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Posted: 7/29/2009 3:08:06 PM | I usually don't post to "pissing matches" like this UNTIL I see some airhead twit who owns a vagina, ( a perfect bacteria factory, warm, moist and dark) making completely illogical statements about uncircumcised men. Forget the FACT that drugstores sell LOTS of feminine deoderants. (which PROVES that a lot of women stink!)
Women say the area under the foreskin develops odor. Lets compare areas. You have a DRY penis head covered with a foreskin. The penis head hangs DOWN. Urine and prelube (if excited) runs to the END of the penis and DOWN. It does NOT run UP (defying gravity) under the foreskin. Now lets compare a vulva. outer lips with inner lips, so we have THREE skin to skin surfaces, warm, close together, kept supplied with an indescript discharge from the vagina to "marinate" and form a perfect odor causing machine! Oh, I forgot, we add to this mix, a small hood, over the clit to add more potential odor. Even if we forget to include improper "wipeing" from the rectum, to add to the "marinade."
Am uncircumcised man will have odor if he does not keep clean but there is NO comparison to foreskin bacteria counts, to the bacteria count in a vulva. The women win the bacteria count hands down! This is UNDISPUTED medical FACT. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2009 3:14:50 PM | I don't think being uncut in America is abnormal. As a matter of fact all three of my boys are uncut simply because it was not necessary. I remember my grandfather telling me once that he was glad I had never had them circumcised and then went on to tell me about his experience of being circumcised when he was 13 years old. He said it was the most painful experience of his life and would not have wished it on his worst enemy. I personally have never had a lover or partner who is uncut but don't think I would be too uncomfortable with it if I did.
Hope this helps. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 12:52:31 PM | Actually it is a hideously cruel practice. Happy I had a girl so as to not have to make that decision, but w/ society in US to refuse cicumcision is to set him up for trouble later. Supposedly it was really created to keep the full sexual pleasure from women, (so we would not become out of control) 'to purify the masses' hah-didn't work.  Circumcision should be stopped and females would become used to the penis in its natural form, And still love it | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 12:58:03 PM | Oh, BTW I did have a Hungarian BF, he even wore speedos. I'll take the uncut over the speedos any day. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 2:07:04 PM | From a health view: Smegma builds up in the foreskin of an uncircumcised male, and can smell if not kept really clean. Another point, and I have seen this happen quite a few times. The penis can become edematous and the foreskin can actually choke the head.
I prefer circumcised. | |
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