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Posted: 8/5/2009 2:21:10 PM | Well, since my first lover & husband was not circumcised and he was my only lover until I marriage broke up, that was all I ever knew. Oh and he was also my first BJ, so again that was all I knew. Boy!!!! was I ever surprised when the circumcised guy showed up. No, there is no difference, anyone will have odor, if they are not clean. From a gal that Does know..............
No difference. except maybe to them and you would have to ask them that question. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 7:11:27 PM | Im uncut, but usually girls cant tell cause the skin rolls back when its hard. When its flaccid, it rolls down but only covers the bottom part of the head.
Circumcision is wrong and unnatural. Just wash your****and you'll be fine. Never understood why women complain about how a penis looks. Its not like we complain about big puzzy lips or roast beef. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 7:50:26 PM | | If you are Jew you must get circumcised because it is a JEW TRADITION since bible times.. if you are not Jew.. well.. then you have one less thing to be traumatized about. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 9:34:51 PM | | I don't think there is any issue with them being un-cut as long as the man is clean, which would be my same expectation if I were with someone who was cut. Shouldn't be anything for a man to be embarrassed about and shouldn't slow down his sex life, in my opinion. Absolutely NOT get circumcised as an adult! I know a man who did, they messed it up and get the skin to tight on one side. He swore up and down that he never had the same sensation as before. They say there are nerves in that skin, my thoughts are that a man who has never experienced sex with that skin wouldn't know the difference, but one who has just might and might really feel that they have been radically changed and not in a good way! | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:51:32 AM | The penis can become edematous and the foreskin can actually choke the head.
Just state your preference. Nobody wants to convince you otherwise. But please stop the nonsense of something you don't have and don't know. You're a ignorant **** | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 7:09:26 AM | Routine infant circumcision..... yeah, let's bring back trepanation and laudanum, too!
RIC is pure barbarism and a twisted, futile form of prophylaxis. Complete waste of resources. Now, there's a big push to spread the practice in Africa under the guise of limiting the spread of HIV. It's faulty science and bad medicine. HIV is clearly linked, in Africa, to socioeconomic and behavioral factors, not directly to one's circumcision status.
But hey, let's carve up more babies so we can sell more Gomco clamps. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 8:55:59 AM | Circumcised vs Un-Circumcised...
Posted: 8/6/2009 9 32 AM
(((((((The penis can become edematous and the foreskin can actually choke the head.
Just state your preference. Nobody wants to convince you otherwise. But please stop the nonsense of something you don't have and don't know. You're a ignorant ****)))))))))))))))
Excuse me????????????????? I am a nurse and have seen more than a dozen men wind up having to be circumcised because edema develops in the scrotum and head of the penis. 1) the foreskin will not retract or 2) it is retracted and will not go back over the head. All kinds of bacteria hide out under that foreskin. Urine, staph, yeast. Irritation, inflammation, and infection builds up quite easily. Cause it is the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, warmth and moisture. And would need to be cleaned more than once a day, to ensure those werent on it.
With all due respect, You are ought to be kicked out for name calling.
I believe I did state my preference. Some people take offense when others dont agree with them. But I'm not the one who is ignorant. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:07:32 AM | Forum101, I would go with the ignorant suggestion for you as well. As a nurse you obviously see cases that make the extreme, it's not the norm that you see. People that have the issues you state simply don't clean themselves or have other contributing factors. You do know that circumcision is not the norm around the world don't you? That the vast majority of men on the planet are not circumsised, the vast majority of them do not suffer from the conditions you describe simply because they do clean themselves.
You're perpetrating a myth and as a nurse you should know better. There are many men that suffer through other bacterial infections from not cleaning themselves as well even when circumsised. It has nothing to do with the circumsision and everything to do with cleaning. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:21:12 AM | http://health.howstuffworks.com/circumcision1.htm
Though they serve a protective purpose, foreskins can cause problems. Since the foreskin keeps the glans lubricated, it must also be kept very clean to prevent bacteria buildup. When regular hygiene is not maintained, a white cheesy discharge called smegma may accumulate beneath the foreskin. Continued poor hygiene can lead to infections and urinary tract infections.
If a foreskin is too tight and won't properly retract from the glans, it causes a condition called phimosis. This is the main medical determinant for circumcision. Conversely, if a foreskin slides down from the glans but won't properly return, that's a condition known as paraphimosis. This can cause swelling of the glans and foreskin.
Balanposthitis is a swelling of the mucous surfaces of the foreskin. If it becomes a frequent problem, circumcision may be necessary. A skin disease that affects the foreskin, glans and sometimes the urethra, balanitis xerotica obliterans, requires circumcision to prevent pain and worsening phimosis.
* If you're raised in a culture or religion in which the majority of males are cut, then it may seem like a natural decision to circumcise.
* Many times, the decision comes down to a simple belief that the son's penis should look the same as the father's. One study showed that nine out of 10 circumcised fathers elected to have their sons circumcised as well, while nearly 75 percent of uncircumcised men chose not to have their sons cut [source: WHO].
* Regardless of whether or not they themselves were circumcised, some parents simply want their sons to fit in as best as possible and will make the decision based on what the majority of people in the region do.
* Uncircumcised men are about twice as likely to be infected with human papillomavirus (HPV) and pass it along to sexual partners, resulting in higher cervical cancer rates in regions where the majority of men are uncircumcised [source: Infectious Diseases Society of America]. It also appears that circumcision helps protect against infection from chlamydia and syphilis [source: JAMA].
* Recent studies have shown that circumcision can dramatically reduce the rate of HIV infection. According to these studies, a circumcised man is 60 percent less likely to contract HIV than an uncircumcised man [source: Timbert]. (This holds true only in the case of female-to-male transmission -- circumcision hasn't been seen to influence the rate of male-to-male HIV transmission [source: JAMA].)
* A majority of people around the world believe that it's easier to maintain the cleanliness of a circumcised penis than an uncircumcised penis [source: WHO]
* Some people believe that a circumcised penis is more attractive, or, more importantly, more attractive to other people. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 9:31:37 AM | forum101, what are you trying to show? As what you have pointed out is no different than what I said, cleansiness is the key.
As for the HIV bit, that comes down to who you are having sex with and not whether or not you are circumsised. You can't get HIV from sex unless you are with someone that has it. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 10:28:56 AM | Something that always makes me smile about these benefits of circumcision...a lot of these studies are done in African countries...
Let that sink in for a minute...
Why would they want to conduct studies there...hmmm....?
Blanketing the rest of the world with these "health' benefits is such a diaper load...they’re' doing these things there because HIV/AIDS is out of control and are doing WHATEVER it takes to stop the spread...now if you want to compare us to them..Be my guest.
Truthy...everyone in such a hurry to be a part of the "civilized" world. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 11:04:26 AM | The other side of it is a mn who is uncut is likely to be more aware of the need for cleanliness down there....
I'm uncut... I keep it very clean...
I'd be curious to know if circumcised men regularly keep it as clean... | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 11:17:07 AM | I can't retract my foreskin at all so I went to a urologist (he was Jewish!) and asked about circumcision and he recommended against having it done  , but I will go under to cut my frenulum breve. This doctor explained to me that it doesn't matter if I'm cut or uncut even with my irretracteable foreskin. I can't even pull it back when it's flaccid. But did say I can go through with it if I wanted to in the future, but there's a 1 month wait list and it'd be for looks rather than function | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 11:48:29 AM | Directed to the poster that said she been with clean uncut men and it still smelled.
They couldnt of been to clean or it wouldnt of smelled.
Im uncut and wash everytime i go to the bathroom and dry off. I also wash before and after sex-if for any reason things heat up and i dont wash before sex i always wash afterward instead of rolling over and going to sleep. To the female posters that are disgusted with uncut men because of bad experiences with them-leave it at that. They were just experiences that u had with paticular uncut men. Not all uncut men smell-thats like saying all women smell-being that the chances of bacteria to breed is alot more for women then uncut guys. We know all women dont smell-so its common sense to say that all uncut guys dont smell. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 12:15:17 PM | Advocating RICs anywhere on the planet makes even less sense than advocating routine radical mastectomies for women who have the breast-cancer gene, or advocating routine tonsillectomies or appendectomies for perfectly healthy people.
For the small number of women on here who seem a little overeager in their advocacy of RICs----I just showed this thread to a female friend of mine, and she says that any woman who advocates mutilating babies is a "wack-job". I agree with her.
Some of you circumcision zealots may want to think about how crazy you look to most of the world before posting long (and refuted) stats from pro-circ sites. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 1:39:24 PM | What is the matter with you ladies that don't like the uncut? First of all.. most of the time that you see a penis it will be erect and by then... it will look like an uncut penis. For those ladies who said that they broke it off because he had an uncut****. WOW.. you have issues.. you are probably racist too and have OCD.. poor guy you traumatized him for free.. you are mean.,, and you should have spared him. Would you want him to tell you he broke up with you because your vagina is too saggy?
I have had many girlfriends.. too many.. and I have never heard a complaint about my****not being circumcised. EVER.. no one has ever broken up with me..EVER .. so It's not like they did not want to tell me to avoid offending me either.
God gave us men the foreskin for a reason,, no to mutilate it that is... of course there are problems with some men who are not clean and did not have a dad or mom to teach them how to clean themselves when they were little... but to the rest of us.. I could not think of my****touching my pants and being all dried up...... It is funny how some girl laughed and compared it to a turtle when not erect.. but did you see the uncut not erect? the head is dry and wrinkly and looks like a turtle too... LOL... when it is dry it loses sensation and you definitely don't want that..but if you were cut when little,.. no worries.. you don't know any different. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 6:34:40 PM | | It actually does. You can google that. It has no relation to removing the clitoris. It is akin to removing the clitoral hood for aesthetics. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2009 7:33:33 PM | ^^^ Same could be said for Angelina Jolies kids..or the "UN" as the tabloids are calling her now.
Truthy...that has nothing to do with...OH BUT IT DOES | |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 8:59:59 AM | From the private messages a lot of you guys are sending me, and there were 9 messages in my inbox this am, some of you guys are very insecure about your package, that you allow one opinion to turn you into screaming, name calling lunatics.
All 3 of my sons are circumcised. I watched will all 3 procedures, behind a glass window. My babies cried when they were strapped down for the procedure, and sucked on a bottle of sugar water during the procedure. If they felt anything, it wasnt enough to give up the sugar water. The healing process didnt seem to bother them either, no fussing with cleaning it during diaper changes.
Unless you have just taken a bath, you will have smegma, bits of urine, and bacteria under the foreskin.
Most of the emails I received, agreed with me, but I guess they didnt want to get put down and yelled at by placing them in the forums. One thanked me for the information, cause he had been having trouble. Felt better to realize his problem was had by a lot of men.
Then there were of couple of guys on here calling me b****, who**, c***. I put out medical reports, of things that can and do happen, and if your egos cannot handle it, well, sorry about that. What I copied and pasted it true. Like passage aggressive people, some of you are bringing other subjects into this forum, that do not belong. This isnt a forum about women being cut, or how a woman smells. It is about male circumcision. And people's likes and dislikes regarding it. Honestly, if a grown man were to have the procedure, he would have medicine for the pain. I dont know of any man who regretted having it done.
Oh, and for one particular, private email sent to me, you nasty jerk. How dare you. If you dont like the way women smell, then get the he** off the planet, cause I think you are outnumbered. I am not responsible for your dealings with women, or whether they do or dont like you little willie. From your nasty temper, I can see why you are alone. | |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 10:40:09 AM | ^^^um NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"Unless you have just taken a bath, you will have smegma, BITS OF URINE, and BACTERIA under the foreskin. :"
Both males and females produce smegma. In males, smegma is produced and accumulates under the foreskin; in females, it collects around the clitoris and in the folds of the labia minora...so again...circumcisions for everyone?? Let us know how it goes forum 101.
In females glands that are located around the clitoris and the vulva secrete sebum. The accumulation of sebum combined with dead skin cells forms smegma. Smegma clitoridis is defined as the secretion of the apocrine glands of the clitoris, in combination with desquamating epithelial cells
Smegma contains 26.6% fats and 13.3% proteins, which is consistent with necrotic epithelial debris.
None of which are bacteria or bits of URINE, I hope this poor guy doesn’t go getting himself about half an inch shorter because someone told him it would be a great idea...PLEASE stop passing out info that you believes 100% accurate.
"One thanked me for the information, cause he had been having trouble. Felt better to realize his problem was had by a lot of men."
Thank god you’re speaking for men...your brass ball must shine like that of a light house guiding men into the nearest Moyle’s office.
"This isnt a forum about women being cut, or how a woman smells"
What's good for the goose...and lady, you're honking!
Truthy...Adults are some of the biggest children I know | |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 11:09:42 AM | Thank you for your passive aggressive sarcasm?
But if you can’t see what you're doing is potentially dangerous...and that your words are very misleading, then you've not come to share an opinion, you've come to share your 100% unshakable FACTS. Which I've shown to be full of Truthiness.....
Truthy...folded arms and stamped feet put a period to her sentence. | |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 6:25:28 PM | | Uncut guys are prone to giving more UTI'S to women. They carry more germs, for some reason. Last guy i dated was uncut and i got such a bad UTI i thought i was gonna die, thank GOD it was not a std.. And ive heard so many rumors that uncut men can carry more diseases. So.....I try to be safe. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2009 3:23:03 AM | Hundreds of years of family experience? Get real, if you are jewish yes, but the practice of circumcision for non religious reasons is fairly recent and only within certain regions. Chances are your great grandfather didn't have a circumcision if you are living in north America and are not jewish, it wasn't common practice at all.
A lot of the reasons that are posed here for circumcision are from old studies done early in the 20th century that have long since been dismissed as flawed. The reality is that it comes down to how clean you keep your penis whether you have been circumcised or not. Here in Canada circumcision is considered a aesthetic procedure and has been for a long time now. In most of the industrialised world it's not practiced at all except for religious reasons. | |
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