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| | Why do women dance with each other at clubs?Page 3 of 5 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) | Eh, it's okay I shouldn't have wrote this I was in a bad mood. I had someone write to me right now saying get lost you $%#. When I was talking to them on IMVU and on here very politely several months ago. Afterwards I get ignored for months. Suddenly I get a no I don't want your number get lost you $%#. Basically she practically just used me so that I would sign up on IMVU so she could get more free points for clothes and when she started ignoring me and I asked questions politely shesuddenly writes this to me. She gives me here MSN a month before and then completly ignores me so I deleted it and of course later on I get this letter. Wonder if it had anything to do with this thread. Anyways it was real civil and mature of them.
Sadly while im not perfect makes you wonder about other people and why I don't have much passion in bothering anymore and why sometiemes I feel nervous and say something on here when I probably shouldn't.
I sometimes become paranoid and feel like women and people in general don't respect me and then even when I am polite I get crap like that. Ill admit i've wrote a mean letter or two to a person here and there out of anger or frusteration and it might have been uncalled for but it was only after my patience on here wore so thin that i've stopped taking this whole thing seriously (yet I did nothing mean particularily to this woman and was polite to her). I feel like alot of the women on here are not serious at all or that they don't respect the men that are online. Probably thinking were losers or something. Since why else would we be looking for women online. It's probably in my head sadly. Still I find it hard not to end up thinking that way sometimes. My experiences tend to prove that thats how they think anyways and I find it hard to like people in general.
If I had better experiences and knew where to realistically rate myself I could shrug off such immature responses a lot better. But sadly I have trouble doing so because I keep seeing myself as the bad person even if I didn't really do anything bad. Now im opening up just to give myself a bad reputation on here and just defeat the point of even coming on here go figure. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 5:07:14 PM | Well that was a lot of commotion over something so very simple. Men are just boring and behave like highschool boys at dances ! Who the hell wants to wait for them to ask you to dance - when we can dance with each other and have tons of fun!!!
edit (below) Not enough do dance - there are always way more women moving and way more men standing around looking like their sh:t don't stink - or they are affraid of rejection!!! No matter how you look at it the men are NOT there to dance!! | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 5:27:10 PM | | when I was in high school, the guys danced with the guys..well they called it dancing, they were just jumping up and down to the tunes..the gals danced with gals and we still do! there is nothing wrong with it at all..my friend and I might go a tad overboard, because we tend to act out the songs, like one of us is the guy..you know like in 'Gimme Three Steps'...or "I Want Jesse's Girl"..it's fun, we play around, but not with eachother sexually! No thanks, I am totally straight! | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 5:54:34 PM | Have you ever thought that maybe girls do this because they just wanna go out and have fun with their friends, instead of "mating"?
I do that, I go to the club with my friends, and I dance with my girls. Why you may ask? Cause when I go out to a bar, I don't have the intention to meet any guy. I don't intend to be picked up or talk to any guy at a bar. When I go out with my girls, it's because I want to have fun with my girls, dance with them, and drink with them, and enjoy the night with them.
That's why I dance with my girls, cause that's my intention. Besides, I don't think there's anything wrong with who we pick to dance with is there? I mean, not like you don't enjoy the view if you didn't have the intention to talk to us..... | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 6:00:41 PM | This is an easy one to solve. Open a club where only women can enter and they get to dance till they drop. Yep the "women's dance club".
Then open one down the road that is a regular club that men could enter. Same layout. Same music. Same food.
Now lets say that you were given the chance to own either one of them, but only one. They both cost one buck. But your entire living, for the rest of your life will be soley based on the club you bought. Which one would you buy?
I think that about covers it. Women would have zero interest in a club that only allowed women. Married, single.....no matter. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 9:41:27 PM | Okay, I have to say that I was totally unaware that any guy would have such an issue with women dancing with each other at a club. For me, the answer is a simple one...I love music and love to dance, and when I go to the club with a group of friends, I can dance as much as I want without having to wait around for a guy to come along and ask me onto the floor. That's not to say that I wouldn't dance with a guy that asked me, if he was someone that I was attracted to or if he came across as being someone I'd like to know.
And yes, quite often (I'd venture to say the majority of the time), my only reason for going to a club is to hit the dance floor. I'm not looking to find a man, I'm not planning every move in order to entice a man, I'm just having fun on the dance floor because it's something I truly love to do. Your problem OP is that you are automatically assuming that everything women do in a club setting is all about men. But guess what, when I'm on a dance floor (and I'm sure I'm not the only woman who feels this way), it's not about anyone but me taking an opportunity to enjoy myself, period. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 9:59:45 PM | ok so i just have to throw this in and it was a rather interesting insite for me,
my best friend (actually one of my ex's) got married last weekend and her sister was dancing around with her friends as well as my sister. my sister came back to our table and said "ya know, i just realised why women dance together...women that dance together move the same way. guys dont move the same way as a woman does so it can get kind of awkward." and then she left and went back to dance with the 16 year old sister of the bride lol | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 10:48:26 PM | I used to find it odd, but then again think about it. You're at a club. A great song comes on and you'd really to dance to it.
You love dancing but either none of the guys are interested in dancing,
are afraid to ask thinking they could get 'shot' down.
So instead of sitting there like a bump on a log all night you and some of your girl friends decide to have fun regardless of the mens participation or lack thereof. :) | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 5:14:18 AM | Hi 26yearoldguy:
At first I was not sure what behavior was offending you so much until you mentioned the girl grinding on girl stuff. In my view,this is designed as an attention seeking ploy.
I am sure that there are many girls who would be thrilled to dance with you.These "show"girls may not be the right ones for you.
As far as equality goes,I think that the old days of women sitting at dances and waiting on men to ask them to dance was not really all equal since the women had to sit until someone approached them(boring)! If you like that vibe ,country bars and ballroom dancing are probably more suited to your taste. Be forewarned about ballroom dancing, you may be rejected by someone dancing by themselves who is practising their part of a routine (yikes). How's that for rejection?
Good luck and great expressions " slack jawed yokels" | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 5:23:19 AM | Now lets say that you were given the chance to own either one of them, but only one. They both cost one buck. But your entire living, for the rest of your life will be soley based on the club you bought. Which one would you buy?
Working in clubs for years, hands down - I'd buy the women's club. The men's club would be out of business the first weekend. No women, they'll stay home and drink or hit the local bar down the street. Women spend less than men, but they'd still show up and spend something if the DJ was good and the price was right.
I think that about covers it. Women would have zero interest in a club that only allowed women. Married, single.....no matter.
Not true at all. Ask any club owner or promoter and they'll tell you. Women just think differently and are motivated by different things.
Women go out to go out. They want to dance, let their hair down, have a couple drinks, laugh, listen to music. Men are an expected part of the atmosphere but not the basic reason they go. And I'll say it again, it's not new for us to find men in a club, men are everywhere during the course of a day - so it's not like it's the only place we're going to see some.
Men go out specifically to find women. The only reason men show up to a certain place is that there are a lot of women there - and the atmosphere feels more appropriate for them to approach said women than say, the grocery store. That's why most club promotions are geared towards ladies nights and free covers for women early on. They all know if you get a bunch of women in there nice and early (and women are a bit more frugal with their money, so they are always looking for free stuff or a deal, thus the drink specials, the no cover early, the roses at the door) then the men will find out there are a hundred women somewhere and make plans to be there and will by default buy most of the drinks (on women or on themselves, either way)...and that's where they make their money.
The only reason women don't go to an all woman club is there isn't one - all of them use the female customers to lure in the men and no club would turn men away at the door. If there was a club we could all go to to dance and have fun with no men, we'd be there. The only ones that exist now are lesbian clubs, and we'd get hit on there too...so it defeats the purpose. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 5:30:16 AM | The men's club would be out of business the first weekend.
Ooops I didn't say men's club Betty. I said a club that men can enter. In other words a regular club. Boys and girls mix. Would you still buy the women's club?
So your saying that the women would go to the all women's club instead and dance till they drop? Of course they could just dress casual. Unless they want to just cat fight about the cute shoes that another woman also has on that are just like hers. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 6:38:41 AM | i know when i am out with my gfs i really dont want to be bothered, but i am not a b!tch about it... i let guys know i am there to hang with my gfs and stand by that all night... (i dont turn one guy down to dance with another)....
and im sure a guy would enjoy a girl hitting on him while he is at his best (playing a sport that he likes) and i guess its only natural to assume that a girl is the same way (she is looking her best dancing with her friends) but not all the time is it the attention from guys that we want...
we just got dressed up for ourselves :) just like you dont play football just to attract females...
But... What if the guy dosen't like sports, finds them boring and dosen't play them.
BTW I can't think of a man who hasn't tried to accomplish something without some subconcious desire that it would help get him the acceptance of women in society. I mean seriously. I know from my personal experience, I though I wanted to become an artist just for myself but other the years I realized that part of why I wanted to do it was to impress people. Yes we need to do things for ourselves but I doubt men would go to the gym, buy expensive cars or a lot of other things if women didn't have something to do with it. Sure some guys do have a passion for something but really c'mon. What people do anything without the idea that it will give them some level of status in society?
Wait this post is somewhat confusing me you say that women are dressing up nice and dancing for themselves but before that you mention it's to pick up the guys they wan't?
So which one is it?
How am I not to beleive then that it's some sort of mating ritual to catch attention and that it isn't to just have fun. I've learned one thing in my life is that most guys will admit they fart. Women tend to like acting like they never do. Yet their human and they can fart too. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 6:45:03 AM |
Ill be honest, I only read the title, but Ill give you MY answer, cuz you can dance any way you like with girls without running the risk of having to beat her off you at the end of the night without being accused of giving her blue balls.
Yeah but how many guys are honestly like that. It always seems like the rude cases are brought up as excuses but a lot of the guys I know do not talk like that or act that way with women. So I bound to start thinking how much of a majority of men are really like that.
From what i've observed if the guy fit the criteria that they seem to want they will dance with the guy regardless. And they definately don't seem to mind having to shoo away the ones they seem to like. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 6:47:37 AM | Ooops I didn't say men's club Betty. I said a club that men can enter. In other words a regular club. Boys and girls mix. Would you still buy the women's club?
So your saying that the women would go to the all women's club instead and dance till they drop? Of course they could just dress casual. Unless they want to just cat fight about the cute shoes that another woman also has on that are just like hers.
Yeah that is something interesting. Would a girls only dance club still have girls wearing shirts above the waist, tight pant's etc? Would they even go there at all? I find it hard to beleive or picture. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 6:53:05 AM | Ooops I didn't say men's club Betty. I said a club that men can enter. In other words a regular club. Boys and girls mix. Would you still buy the women's club?
So your saying that the women would go to the all women's club instead and dance till they drop? Of course they could just dress casual. Unless they want to just cat fight about the cute shoes that another woman also has on that are just like hers.
Ok in that case, the club men could enter would make more money since that's where most of it comes from, so I'd buy that one first. But they'd both make money, one would just have a lot of men hanging around outside, so I would put a hot babe out there with a beer tub or outside bar - I am all about the money. Men are way too nosy not to show up anyway - they are generally drawn to any place women go that they aren't allowed, which is why clubs make a killing right after a 2 hour male revue. And of course the ones they can't have would be a challenge they would have to try and overcome, so the women in the club they can't enter would seem better.
Some men are intrigued by a group of women who would go somewhere like that on purpose...some men are just fascinated by women who can't be bothered.
I can see it now..."if we could only get in that OTHER club we wouldn't all be so...single." LOL
Yeah that is something interesting. Would a girls only dance club still have girls wearing shirts above the wait, tight pant's etc? Would they even go there at all? I find it hard to beleive or picture.
Yep...I know this because I see women at the supermarket dressed like this, and there's really not that many men there to dress up for. Women like to dress up in general...and most do it to feel good about themselves no matter who's looking. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 7:01:28 AM | | Yes, I know I just wan't to see what would be the reply here. I tend to tell people mostly older people that it's just the current fashion thats in style. I just wan't to see what other people have to say about things and whats the general consensus. I test everything down to a point. Just to see what people will say and what differing opinions are. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 7:23:41 AM |
Yeah but how many guys are honestly like that. It always seems like the rude cases are brought up as excuses but a lot of the guys I know do not talk like that or act that way with women. So I bound to start thinking how much of a majority of men are really like that.
Just because a lot of the guys that you know don't talk like that doesn't mean that they are the majority. Clearly, a man's experience of a club is going to be different than a woman's experience. You're not going to experience the rude guys because it's not you that they are looking for. And even if the rude guys aren't in the majority, they are often so pushy and aggressive, that it makes it seem like they are. Men whose hands are all over you the minute you get on the floor with them, men who say the nastiest things to you just because you choose not to dance with them, men who absolutely refuse to take no for an answer and try to drag you onto the floor with them anyway, men that you literally have to push away from you and tell to leave you alone in rude terms because they refuse to let you go. It happens to me all the time (at least once, if not several times, every time I go to a club)... so most of the time if I want to just have fun dancing, I bring along a bunch of friends and only dance with them.
The next time you go to a club, just stand by the side of the dance floor, and instead of watching the women dancing, watch the men who approach them, and watch the interaction between them. I guarantee you, you will see examples of this again and again.
So I agree with UglyBetty...if there were a club where there was a good DJ who played great music, reasonable cover charge to get in (actually, I'd even pay a higher cover charge for it!), with no men, I'd be there in a heartbeat. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 10:08:57 AM | Ok in that case, the club men could enter would make more money since that's where most of it comes from, so I'd buy that one first. But they'd both make money, one would just have a lot of men hanging around outside, so I would put a hot babe out there with a beer tub or outside bar - I am all about the money.
Ok. So your saying that the women go there for guys to buy them drinks and a free party? I thought they were there to dance together and are not interested in men noticing them. (Faceious)
I don't buy for a second or even a split second that the women go to a club with the idea that they are not interested in being noticed by men. Not a friggin chance. It wouldn't matter if she was married or single.
Take away the babe outside selling beer to the panting boys outside (good idea actually) and there would be no reason for the women to go to the club. Hell they can go to one of the girl's house, turn up the music and dance till they drop. Cheaper and total girl time.
There is no social for girls if there are no men. Girls can only stand so much of each other. I completely understand that. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 10:20:28 AM | Ok. So your saying that the women go there for guys to buy them drinks and a free party? I thought they were there to dance together and are not interested in men noticing them. (Faceious)
Since you were joking I won't go nuts on this response...but men offer drinks and women accept, and men drink a lot watching women and getting their courage up for the most part. : )
I don't buy for a second or even a split second that the women go to a club with the idea that they are not interested in being noticed by men. Not a friggin chance. It wouldn't matter if she was married or single.
Not being female, it would make sense that you don't buy it - you are a man, and what motivates you is completely different. On a case by case basis, there might be a man or two that we might hope we see once we know he goes to a certain place, but the over all men being where we are isn't extremely unique. We see them all day. The only difference is they are drunker and more liable to harass us in a club setting than in, say, Target.
Take away the babe outside selling beer to the panting boys outside (good idea actually) and there would be no reason for the women to go to the club. Hell they can go to one of the girl's house, turn up the music and dance till they drop. Cheaper and total girl time.
I realize the world would be an easier place for men to live in if this theory were true, and yes there are a FEW women out there who live to get attention from men (well let's face it, from women too) but for the most part it's not the only place we get hit on, so it's more of the same thing in a club - they can be drunker, and more obnoxious about it, but it's not THAT different from the rest of our day. What is different is the music, our friends, no husbands or kids, and the chance to let loose.
Many of us actually do end up drinking at someone's house, it happens more than you think. A girls night out isn't always at the club, many times it ends up being a shopping trip, a restaurant, a salon, etc. But if we want GOOD music, and a place to yell, get a buzz and dance with out the cops being called...it's the club. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 10:39:20 AM |
Many of us actually do end up drinking at someone's house, it happens more than you think. A girls night out isn't always at the club, many times it ends up being a shopping trip, a restaurant, a salon, etc. But if we want GOOD music, and a place to yell, get a buzz and dance with out the cops being called...it's the club.
Of course.
Everything you have said.......I'm not objective to. Not at all. I've heard it many times.
The point is........is that we like you just as much as you like us. So naturally I will default to instinct. I never buy that garbage "I don't need a man.....but I want one." Now I know when most say that they are talking about security, finances, etc. But I mean it literally.
It's fake. Completely intellectually dishonest. If that were true a woman would not even need a vibrator. Wouldn't need any of those mental thoughts.
So in light of this, social would ALWAYS mean men involved otherwise it's just the girls club. You know, where instead of crushing the aluminum cans against your foreheads or fishing or football or hockey you would talk about girl stuff and stand on the table with hands on hips screaming "I am woman." (teasing).......but almost never leave out men from the conversations.
I've hit the high country with buds and never onced mentioned a woman for well over a week.
I remember when my granmother was alive and I was in her basement fixing her plumbing. Well her, the woman from next door and my niece were watching a Mel Gibson interview on the tube.
Well I came up the stairs and the girls didn't hear me. I was right behind them. I heard my grandmother tell the other two women......"That man can stay in my room as long as he wants." OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! my 80 year old grandmother actually said that. It absolutely never goes away. I have been around many old men at the gym, fishing, etc. and almost never hear them talk about women unless it's about the hag at the house. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 11:01:05 AM | That's why you don't go to a club to meet someone that's worth having. A lot of people that go to clubs are there to hook up and that's it. There are others whom don't go for the hook up but get loaded and act funny or stupid or however it is that they act in order to loosen' up.
Look at it this way...If you see girls hanging out together, dancing, doing "suggestive" moves it's because it's fun to them. Some women do act like a "cocktease" and that's still subjective. People feel like they need to (as Madonna would say "Express yourself"...) express themselves. It's their prerogative so who are you to question it?
If you're looking to meet someone that's worth having a conversation with then honey you should look else where. Clubs are not a place to find people with "substance".
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 11:01:08 AM |
Of course.
Everything you have said.......I'm not objective to. Not at all. I've heard it many times.
The point is........is that we like you just as much as you like us. So naturally I will default to instinct. I never buy that garbage "I don't need a man.....but I want one." Now I know when most say that they are talking about security, finances, etc. But I mean it literally. It's fake. Completely intellectually dishonest. If that were true a woman would not even need a vibrator. Wouldn't need any of those mental thoughts.
So in light of this, social would ALWAYS mean men involved otherwise it's just the girls club. You know, where instead of crushing the aluminum cans against your foreheads or fishing or football or hockey you would talk about girl stuff and stand on the table with hands on hips screaming "I am woman." (teasing).......but almost never leave out men from the conversations.
Eh, you lose me there. I am a literal and clinical person, so to me "need" denotes survival. Therefore we like men, we sometimes want men, but we don't need them to survive, and to be fair they don't need us either (nor should we want them to). Women don't need vibrators either. We don't need sex. We may like it and want it, but we don't need it. Air, water, food, shelter we need...a job to pay the bills and all that but the rest is luxury.
I've hit the high country with buds and never onced mentioned a woman for well over a week.
I remember when my granmother was alive and I was in her basement fixing her plumbing. Well her, the woman from next door and my niece were watching a Mel Gibson interview on the tube.
Well I came up the stairs and the girls didn't hear me. I was right behind them. I heard my grandmother tell the other two women......"That man can stay in my room as long as he wants." OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! my 80 year old grandmother actually said that. It absolutely never goes away. I have been around many old men at the gym, fishing, etc. and almost never hear them talk about women unless it's about the hag at the house.
True, there are times when men want to go out and not deal with women the same as women don't want to deal with men...but for them the dynamic is different. Especially for men involved or married; male bonding is necesary to keep balance when you are constantly with an SO and/or kids - especially in that case, why would they discuss women when they see one constantly? Most times single men bond as a default because they are single and see their friends all the time. Barring some activity that women just don't participate in as much, they don't have to schedule time to "be men" - instead of hunting deer or whatever they hunt women, lol.
Women can sort of brush the male aspect aside because it's constant. It'd be refreshing not to have that dynamic but more because we're usually pursued; men are the agressors a lot of times, so to them not dealing with women is a break from constantly trying to land one. | |
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| Why do women dance with each other at clubs?
Posted: 8/3/2007 11:13:48 AM |
Just because a lot of the guys that you know don't talk like that doesn't mean that they are the majority. Clearly, a man's experience of a club is going to be different than a woman's experience. You're not going to experience the rude guys because it's not you that they are looking for. And even if the rude guys aren't in the majority, they are often so pushy and aggressive, that it makes it seem like they are. Men whose hands are all over you the minute you get on the floor with them, men who say the nastiest things to you just because you choose not to dance with them, men who absolutely refuse to take no for an answer and try to drag you onto the floor with them anyway, men that you literally have to push away from you and tell to leave you alone in rude terms because they refuse to let you go. It happens to me all the time (at least once, if not several times, every time I go to a club)... so most of the time if I want to just have fun dancing, I bring along a bunch of friends and only dance with them.
In fairness, there is rude and immature behavior from BOTH genders at clubs. There are plenty of men who would politely ask a woman to dance with him and she turns him down a very rude way. Dirty looks, noises such as 'eww' and 'ugh'. She will say something to her friends such as 'I can't believe that ugly loser wanted to dance with me'. In many cases, these women are average looking at best. | |
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