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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 176 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/10/2007 6:06:13 PM | I personally will stick with the Bone-In type steak, thank you very much.
Those bones make mightly fine soup, and nothing beats sucking on the marrow.
Marrow is high in monounsaturated fat.
The so-called double harmonic approximation (DHA) hypothesis
suggests that our apemen ancestors gained human-level intelligence
as a result of eating fatty DHA-rich organ-meats, particularly bone-marrow and brain.
Organ meats are often favored in hunter-gatherer diets.
Eaten first are the organs such as brains, eyeballs, liver , tongue, kidneys, etc.
An increasing amount of recent research on fats in the diet suggests there may actually be little
if any correlation between the overall level of fat consumption and heart disease, atherosclerosis, cancer, etc.
Cardiovascular disease and cancer are rare in hunter-gatherers, despite their fat/protein intake.
People really should try a heaping helping helping of cooked/baked bone marrow on toast....yyyyyuuuummmyy
The evidence seems to point more specifically to the trans fats (hydrogenated vegetable oils used to emulsify and preserve foods)
which permeate much of the modern food supply in supermarkets,
and highly saturated fats (including dairy products and probably saturated commercial meats, but not lean game meats)
along with, perhaps, a high consumption of starches and refined carbohydrates. | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 9:44:44 AM | "Even today, as the low-carb craze sweeps the nation, two-thirds of adults are still obese and children are being diagnosed with Type II diabetes, typically an “adult” disease, at an alarming rate. If we’re eating healthier, why are Americans stricken with heart disease as much as we were 30 years ago?
"Although it was heretical to say that protein wasnt healthy, he (T. Colin Capbell, Ph.D) started an in-depth study into the role of nutrition, especially protein, in the cause of cancer.
The research project culminated in a 20-year partnership of Cornell University, Oxford University, and the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine, a survey of diseases and lifestyle factors in rural China and Taiwan. More commonly known as the China Study, this project eventually produced more than 8000 statistically significant associations between various dietary factors and disease.
The findings: People who ate the most animal-based foods got the most chronic disease People who ate the most plant-based foods were the healthiest and tended to avoid chronic disease. These results could not be ignored, said Dr. Campbell.
In The China Study, Dr. Campbell details the connection between nutrition and heart disease, diabetes, and cancer, and also its ability to reduce or reverse the risk or effects of these deadly illnesses. The China Study also examines the source of nutritional confusion produced by powerful lobbies, government entities, and irresponsible scientists."
http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 12:04:33 PM |
An increasing amount of recent research on fats in the diet suggests there may actually be little
if any correlation between the overall level of fat consumption and heart disease, atherosclerosis, cancer, etc.
The latest stuff I read about cholesterol is that the body produces about 85% of its own cholesterol and the dietary intake is only responsible for about 15-16% of the cholesterol in blood counts. This was reader's digest and within the last year.
Personally I think everyone should be raised to know that meat comes from killing animals and that it is totally natural. Everyone should kill their own meat for awhile, the cultures that do have much more reverence for its rewards.
When I went with my niece to the county fair and there was a petting zoo I told her while she was petting this baby cow, very off the top of my head, that is where we get hamburger from. A lady nearby, whose kid was also petting the calf, shot me a dirty/shocked look. What I am I supposed to do, hide the truth? Easier for her to here it now, she thought nothing of it. But it is crucial for her to have a natural understanding of how the world really is. We were meant to eat meat.
Because the alternative is Tofurky.
Seeing ^^^^ that in the middle of this serious discussion almost had me choking on my iced tea. | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 179 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 12:27:46 PM | I'm not ""completely"" buying into all the hype, just yet.
AND by no means whatsoever am I saying don't eat your veggies (they're yummy)
I'm just attempting to balance the scales a bit :-)
The Cholesterol Myths
http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics
http://www.thincs.org/
Websites with a critical view on the cholesterol campaign
Cholesterol-and-Health.com
Dig Deeper Online
Easy Diagnosis: Medical Controversies
Power Health
Red Flags Daily
Second Opinion
Stop Worrying About Cholesterol
The Bolen Report
The Omnivore.com
Weston A Price Foundation
The work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus.
Consensus is the business of politics.
Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right.
Which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world.
In science consensus is irrelevant.
****__What is relevant is reproducible results___******.
The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science.
If it's consensus, it isn't science.
If it's science, it isn't consensus. | |
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LComp
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Joined: 9/1/2007
Msg: 180 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 2:24:21 PM |
Personally I think everyone should be raised to know that meat comes from killing animals and that it is totally natural.
look up factory farming and slaughter houses on the internet where the majority of meat nowadays comes from. there is nothing "natural" about it | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 4:45:19 PM | first of all the FDA is run by frigging idot rednecks they are understaffed and probably paid off ,you know how it goes somone on the payroll can be bought ,i worked for a restarauntuer who would pay off health inspectors,like ,people do have a price especially when they are working on a crappy job they hate,american beef barons are thye scum of the earth and are ignorant cowboys,and if you blieve anything that the FDA says you might want a check up from the neck up,it is all about the money nothing else,people only care about the cash in biz......................read the book FAST FOOD AMERICA    | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 182 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/11/2007 5:57:33 PM | Government-supported dietary and drug treatment programs are openly developed and promulgated without regard for the scientific knowledge of the time.
Drug companies, as a matter of good business practice, do not invest their research and development money to develop products that cannot be patented.
A growing numbers of older adults are dependent on prescription drugs to control preventable chronic diseases.
Substantial evidence indicates that diets using non-hydrogenated un-saturated fats
as the predominant form of dietary fat, whole grains as the main form of carbohydrates,
an abundance of fruits and vegetables, and adequate omega-3 fatty acids can offer significant protection against Coronary Heart Disease. | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/12/2007 12:14:12 PM | Just an interesting note on the subject of meat. The Lewis and Clark expedition when camped for the winter near the mouth of the Columbia river when the natives were havesting vast amounts of salmon and smoking it for winter continually traded with the locals for dogs which were promptly eaten. The natives made comments that the men in the expedition were barbarians as who would rather eat a dog when the fish were so plentiful.
People eat meat because humans are lazy. It is a carry over from nomadic times when food was much easier to transport if it could walk. | |
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livcom
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Joined: 9/1/2007
Msg: 184 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/16/2007 1:00:26 PM | | "If slaughterhouses had windows, everyone would be vegetarian" - Linda McCartney | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/16/2007 4:15:35 PM |
"If slaughterhouses had windows, everyone would be vegetarian" - Linda McCartney
That's strange, because when the new slaughterhouse here opened up a few years ago, they were giving tours that were well attended by a lot of people, and I would guess that meat sales actually went up locally.
Everyone should be able to eat what they like (unless it's an endangered species). | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/16/2007 6:00:01 PM | | Maybe a mandatory course for high schoolers should be a week actually working in a slaughterhouse, and a week actually working a food producing farm or two, just so people are informed as to how the food hits their table. It might bring a bit of respect for those who actually get their hands dirty trying to feed the gluttonous city dwellers....(hehehe....hey...half the city folks I now think bacon comes from a store....not a pig! LOL! When they are told, they turn green!) | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/18/2007 10:06:07 PM | Uh, okay, lets show our deepest respect & gratitude for people who do what they do in the following videos:
http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/archive.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD0j5O502oY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5tkULd3bsc
But, I'd rather show gratitude for those who expose what really goes on behind closed doors, "testimony of a former Tyson Foods employee who describes the horrific conditions that chickens destined for KFC suffered through in the slaughterhouse where he worked."
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=virgil
It is also a fact of slaughter that animals raised for meat have to be bled as "civilized society" doesn't want their meat completely saturated w/ blood. After the knife, these animals have to be still alive & fully conscious in order for their beating hearts to pump out the blood.
Other facts that make animal farming so "endearing":
"pigs on factory farms are confined to crates so small that they are unable to turn around or even lie down comfortably"
"Turkeys' beaks and toes are burned off with a hot blade. Many suffer heart failure or debilitating leg pain, often becoming crippled under the weight of their genetically manipulated and drugged bodies"
People eat meat because humans are lazy. It is a carry over from nomadic times when food was much easier to transport if it could walk.
Interesting point. | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 188 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 2:21:02 AM | ***************_________COUNTERPOINT_____________*****************
PETA and the ALF are a violent, dangerous, cult like organization
and it's a proven fact they can't deny , hide or run away from.
This is one of the better videos on the net - truth about PETA and the ALF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itswGWddk2A&mode=related&search=
PETA lacks ethics, integrity and the IRS will yank their Tax exemption status.
The biggest problem we face is ignorance of what and who PETA,ALF, PCRM are.
http://www.cdfe.org/peta-probe.htm
This Archive exists to provide extensive data, references and information to soundly debunk every aspect of the Animal Rights agenda
http://www.pathwai.org/
PETA's goal is the elimination of all dogs.
Dogs are domestic animals, and PETA states that keeping domestic animals is cruel and must be abolished.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PILlSj1hsHU&mode=related&search=
http://www.workingpitbull.com/truthaboutpeta.htm
**Let's not be complete heartless a s s holes who violently attack people & property**
Support a local organic farmer who lets the animals roam around and eat real food
--visit the farm if possible and understand alternatives exist--
At the very least ....try it once ....you'll never go back to the supermarket .
Your BBQ's will be the talk of the neighborhood and they'll gladly bring
cases of expensive hand made micro brew beer for you to enjoy many days after the parties over.
A mightly fair trade I must say.
Nobody really needs to consume a 72 ounce in one sitting at a restaurant
http://www.bigtexan.com/72ozlive.htm
but that doesn't mean a 6 ounce lean piece and some veggies doesn't make a great meal
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 2:46:01 AM |
Maybe a mandatory course for high schoolers should be a week actually working in a slaughterhouse, and a week actually working a food producing farm or two, just so people are informed as to how the food hits their table. It might bring a bit of respect for those who actually get their hands dirty trying to feed the gluttonous city dwellers....
Please, the rural community is subsidized by those city dwellers to the hilt. Farmers are richer than city dwellers on average. "hands dirty" puhlease
(hehehe....hey...half the city folks I now think bacon comes from a store....not a pig! LOL! When they are told, they turn green!)
You should stop hanging out with complete and utter morons. | |
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Posted: 9/19/2007 3:55:00 PM | | I read alot of things on here and mainly does anyone truly know what happends to your body when your breaking down the food ? The whole reason for Heart attacks and strokes ? When they open up someones chest what do you they find inside veggies or Gummy white $hit, the same stuff in your pan when its cooled down...I dunno i just want hear what ppl know about why this happends ? | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 192 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 7:36:51 PM | Let's set the record straight , Okay CAM RON.
Everybody has this """gummy white $hit"" in their bodies..even you and the vegans.
Many, many vegans are sickly, aggressive, cranky and there are
numerous scientific studies showing why. They are physically sick.
Notice I didn't say all, many just dabble in it and it messes up their bodies.
The body — mainly the liver — produces varying amounts of cholesterol,
usually about 1,000 milligrams a day
Cholesterol on the cells' membranes helps regulate the inflammatory process.
Cholesterol is a key component in Mast Cells' ability to initiate signals
that tell other inflammatory cells to either rev up or slow down.
Mast Cells are one the principal cells in triggering allergies, including food intolerances.
Cholesterol is a soft, waxy substance found among the lipids (fats)
in the bloodstream and in all your body's cells.
It's an important part of a healthy body because it's used to form cell membranes,
some hormones and is needed for other functions.
above paragraph taken from :
-National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases (NIAMS)
-NIAMS Web site at http://www.niams.nih.gov
An extreme low fat/high carbohydrate diet can actually increase the risk of heart disease.
An extreme low-fat/high-carbohydrate diet can produce metabolic reactions
that cause a change in the cholesterol profile of their blood.
--Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab).
A number of researchers have discovered links between
extremely low cholesterol levels and violent behavior, depression, and suicide.
Men with exceptionally low cholesterol levels are three times as likely to commit suicide
than men with average or higher levels of cholesterol.
Some hypothesize that serotonin levels are the key to explaining these correlations.
Research has shown that monkeys on low-cholesterol diets display
significantly lower serotonin activity in their brains.
Studies have also shown that animals that show low serotonin activity
are more likely to exhibit aggressive behavior.
--Studies at Indiana University
Cholesterol and other fats can't dissolve in the blood.
They have to be transported to and from the cells by special carriers called lipoproteins.
There are several types of lipoproteins:
very low-density lipoproteins (VLDL); low-density lipoproteins (LDL) and high-density lipoproteins (HDL).
The more saturated fat you eat, the more VLDLs your liver makes,
and these eventually become LDLs.
If, at the same time, you don't have many HDLs,
you end up with too much cholesterol in your blood, and sticking around in your arteries.
I'm going to begin accepting donations for spreading info
-please send home baked cookies to Mr H2O at .......lol | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:14:23 PM | Many, many vegans are sickly, aggressive, cranky and there are
I dont know any vegans like that
obviously a different generation of vegans | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:25:42 PM | | because it tastes good, i'll try almost any kind of meat at least once, except for people meat of course. well... maybe with some farva beans and a nice ciante. j/k | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 195 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:23:28 PM | The people in the PETA videos I posted aren't exactly calm, collected, and peaceful.
They look pretty cranky, nasty, and on the edge of violence.
Show me ANY long term double blind study from a leading, well respected known institution
that claims eating a well balanced mix of vegetables and lean meat will
kill people faster.
If this was a slam dunk---the insurance company actuarial scientists
would be raising the rates just like tobacco users are currently penalized.
We're not talking obesity here. We're discussing the value of a Balanced Diet.
Dietary fat plays several important roles in good health:
a.)Helps the body absorb fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K, and carotenoids such as beta-carotene.
b.) Provides the essential fatty acids linoleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid, needed for healthy skin,
normal brain and nervous system functioning and normal growth in children.
c.)Regulates cholesterol metabolism and is necessary for the body to produce
prostaglandins, hormone-like substances that regulate many body processes.
d.) Offers an important energy source. Fat provides nine calories per gram.
Carbohydrates and protein each provide four calories per gram.
There are a variety of "vegetarian" eating styles,
and estimates vary on how many people can really be described as vegetarians.
According to a Time Magazine/CNN survey published in 2002,
4 percent of adults said they considered themselves vegetarian,
but more than half of those described themselves as only "semi-vegetarian."
Only five percent of the self-described "vegetarians" considered themselved "vegans," who avoid all use of animal products.
A vegetarian diet is not automatically a healthy diet.
Although vegetarian diets certainly can be nutritious,
they can also be high in fat and cholesterol, low in fiber,
and low in important nutrients, depending on food choices.
Nutrients from plant food sources may be less available for absorption.
Over time, this may lead to deficiencies in nutrients
such as iron, vitamin B12, zinc and riboflavin.
Studies of female adolescents have also shown that lacto-ovo vegetarians,
semi-vegetarians, and vegans are more at risk for nutrient inadequacies
than those who include food from animals in their diets.
"Vegetarian" Definitions
Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian:
Does not eat meat (red meat, poultry, fish) but will eat animal products such as milk, eggs and cheese.
Lacto-Vegetarian:
Avoids meat, poultry, fish and eggs but eats dairy products.
Semi-Vegetarian:
Mostly follows a vegetarian eating style but occasionally eats meat, poultry or fish.
Flexitarian:
Vegetarian who occasionally eats meat, poultry or fish or non-vegetarians who sometimes seek out vegetarian meals.
Vegan (strict vegetarian):
Eats only plant foods and no animal foods (including eggs, milk or other dairy products). | |
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Mr H2O
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Joined: 10/31/2006
Msg: 196 | |
| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:51:04 PM | C'mon , nobody has the guts to research the other side and call me a liar !!
Let's read the studies, the scientific journals, and share some truth with the world.
Post them on the forum and let us share info. Vegans aren't lazy are they ??
Only when you read BOTH sides of the story can you synthesize your own
ideas on the subject for eating a certain reasonable amount of meat in your diet.
Surely I've presented an extensive list of items that isn't opinion, heresay, or crap.
It all came from research conducted on the subject without the hype,
mob hysteria, and scare tactics used by so many vegan organizations.
I've even eaten quantities of raw beef and raw eggs (when I trusted the farmer), -strong German heritage of Beef TarTar
Attila the Huns men ate raw lean meat cuts which being placed under their saddles were tenderized for as long as a day's ride.
At meal time they added spices to their tender raw meat.
http://www.schonwalder.org/Menu_Special_Steak_Tartar.htm
Enzymes are necessary for digestion—our body makes many enzymes such as amylase, protease, lipase, etc.
Raw plants do contain enzymes that were being used by the plant for growth and cellular processes when they were alive.
Enzymes are relatively fragile, and cooking does deactivate most of the enzymes found in plants and meats.
--However, so does stomach acid!
Most of digestion and absorption of nutrients takes place in the small intestine.
Digestion starts in the mouth, but it is the acid in the stomach
which has the strongest affect on bacteria and enzymes which may be in the foods we eat.
Ideally any bacteria or parasites on raw foods will be killed by out stomach acid.
This process also deactivates most enzymes in raw foods.
If the enzymes in raw foods are to help us digest those foods,
they must do it quickly, before the stomach acid deactivates them.
The evidence shows that sanitation and public health
have done more to extend the human lifespan than any particular type of diet. | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/19/2007 11:24:25 PM | Apart from the fact that we find cats or dogs cute, do they have a more developed sense of pain than cows or other animals we eat? -johnledgerwood2007
The part of the above quote I put in bold is nothing but a parroted Peta talking point. It's that same line of reasoning that leads members of Peta to the belief that killing an insect is the equivalent of killing a person. In their world, moral agents aren't supposed to harm or kill any living organism that reacts to pain.
The funny thing is, they are unable to live up to their own ideal; even when they choose to live the vegan lifestyle. Ironically, their very own chosen diet causes harm to numerous animals and insects each year. They don't seem to realize that lots of rodents and insects die in the process of harvesting all those vegetables they eat. And then there are the animals and insects that died in order to make the paper they use on their Peta flyers and protest signs. Many of those animals died a much slower death (starvation) than what a cow would face at a slaughterhouse. And those are just obvious examples, there are plenty more.
And don't get me started on the general ignorance spread by members of their group. Being morally opposed to animal testing is one thing; but to claim that it hasn't produced any useful human drugs or vaccines is quite another. Some of their spokesmen and members, such as Bill Maher (who ironically complains when people reject science), completely reject germ theory and think that vaccines don't work at all! | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/20/2007 12:03:25 AM |
I read alot of things on here and mainly does anyone truly know what happends to your body when your breaking down the food ? The whole reason for Heart attacks and strokes ? When they open up someones chest what do you they find inside veggies or Gummy white $hit, the same stuff in your pan when its cooled down...I dunno i just want hear what ppl know about why this happends ?
A better question is do you really think they find brocoli lining the heart of vegetarians? | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/20/2007 1:13:28 AM | Man has evolved from living on roots and berries....
Protein is essential in a diet, what is actually wrong with eating meat....
For all the god wollers - were'nt animals put on the earth for man to make use of? | |
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| Why do people eat meat?
Posted: 9/20/2007 1:55:19 AM | Lets be real here...
Fats good and bad fats what is right for a healthy diet?
Your body needs fat to function properly. Besides being an energy source, fat is a nutrient used in the production of cell membranes, as well as in several hormone-like compounds called eicosanoids. These compounds help regulate blood pressure, heart rate, blood vessel constriction, blood clotting and the nervous system. In addition, dietary fat carries fat-soluble vitamins — vitamins A, D, E and K — from your food into your body. Fat also helps maintain healthy hair and skin, protects vital organs, keeps your body insulated, and provides a sense of fullness after meals.
that being said Here are the differences as well as the best food sources of these healthy fats:
* Monounsaturated fat remains liquid at room temperature but may start to solidify in the refrigerator. Foods high in monounsaturated fat include olive, peanut and canola oils. Avocados and most nuts also have high amounts of monounsaturated fat.
* Polyunsaturated fat is usually liquid at room temperature and in the refrigerator. Foods high in polyunsaturated fats include vegetable oils, such as safflower, corn, sunflower, soy and cottonseed oils.
* Omega-3 fatty acids are polyunsaturated fats found mostly in seafood. Good sources of omega-3s include fatty, cold-water fish, such as salmon, mackerel and herring. Flax seeds, flax oil and walnuts also contain omega-3 fatty acids, and small amounts are found in soybean and canola oils.
Saturated and trans fats are less healthy kinds of fats. They can increase your risk of heart disease by increasing your total and LDL ("bad") cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol isn't technically a fat, but it's found in food derived from animal sources. Intake of dietary cholesterol increases blood cholesterol levels, but not as much as saturated and trans fats do, and not to the same degree in all people. Here are how these fats differ and what their common food sources are:
* Saturated fat. Usually solid or waxy at room temperature, saturated fat is most often found in animal products — such as red meat, poultry, butter and whole milk. Other foods high in saturated fat include coconut, palm and other tropical oils.
* Trans fat. Also referred to as trans-fatty acids, trans fat comes from adding hydrogen to vegetable oil through a process called hydrogenation. This makes the fat more solid and less likely to spoil. Hydrogenated fat is a common ingredient in commercial baked goods — such as crackers, cookies and cakes — and in fried foods, such as doughnuts and french fries. Shortenings and some margarines also are high in trans fat. Food manufacturers are required to list trans fat content on nutrition labels. Amounts less than 0.5 grams per serving are listed as 0 grams trans fat on the food label.
* Dietary cholesterol. Your body naturally manufactures all of the cholesterol it needs, but you also get cholesterol from animal products, such as meat, poultry, seafood, eggs, dairy products, lard and butter.
Daily limits for fat intake
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) recommend that fat make up no more than 35 percent of your daily calories. This means that if you consume 1,800 calories a day, consume no more than 70 grams of fat a day. (To figure: Multiply 1,800 by 0.35 to get 630 calories, and divide that number by 9, the number of calories per gram of fat, to get 70 grams of total fat.) Keep in mind, however, that this is an upper limit and that most of these fat calories should come from monounsaturated and polyunsaturated sources.
In addition, the USDA and HHS recommend limiting saturated fat and dietary cholesterol for healthy adults recommending no more then 10 percent in saturated fats and Less than 300 milligrams a day of Dietary cholesterol. So of your total 70 grams of fat a maximum of 20 grams of that to be saturated and 300 milligrams of dietary cholesterol thats .3 grams.
So if this is what they are recommending meat isn't fairing to well in your diet. Although fish seem to be on the chopping block... *sniff* But its quite clear that meat is being looked at less and less as a healthy part of a diet. These are the things they are saying now, so if they are saying this now what do you think they will be saying when they learn more? Meat is simply seen as food, and thats why people eat it. Arguing about PETA or any other organization doesn't change the health facts about meat. I never heard of PETA till this thread. Any organization that is involved with terrorist activities should be dealt with appropriately. It will give way for more responsible organizations to grow.
H20 i thought the movie was funny but was uncomfortable with all the meat eating and eww eating chicken while a chicken is on the table beside him yuck. I was shocked and won't be supporting PETA in any way. thanks... It still doesn't change the health benefits of a vegan diet though or the ethical reasons for choosing such a diet. 75% of obese people think they eat a healthy diet. what does that tell you? There are very few people that know anything about diet and just outright saying eating meat will enable others that are less aware of healthy eating will continue thinking their diet is ok when it is clearly killing them. Being vegan has made me more aware of what goes in my body and i want to make sure i get everything i need. I take supplements (that are also vegan) to make sure i don't destroy my body in the process of being ethical, i see being dead as counter productive to promoting good health. The more we learn the better we should be. If people are cold and callous about what they eat and don't care if they have to kill to do so it just speaks volumes about them. middle ground is small local outfits that treat animals with some dignity and kills them humanly. I'd just be happy with that.
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