| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 1:07:16 AM | I just read anytimedog's post.
I totally agree about the dog walking versus running.
My heart breaks everytime I see a large dog walking on his elbows (I don't know if this is the correct part of the body). As an example, I see this with a German Shepherd in my neighbourhood. ... and the owner is not enjoying the walk .... it is a chore to get the dog out. This poor dog probably lives in a crate all day, and gets barely a 15 minute walk. My heart is broken when I see this!
I know the dog trainers will teach you to have your dogs heel nicely!
I do not follow what dog trainers teach.
I don't do this with my dogs. Never have. I like to give them as much freedom as possible. They are in an harness with a long lead, and they get to run on our "walks". They are always panting at the end of our walks.
Dogs need to be able to either walk briskly or run for a long time, so they exercise their muscles in their legs and feet. Walking slowly does not exercise their muscles enough.
I wish I had the space like you do in Alaska .... in the future maybe ... for now, I do with where I am .............. as do my dogs ..... I have skijored with them, so they do get other exercises as well.
btw Anytimedog, I have dog sledded up on Baffin Island ... it was great! | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 1:20:43 AM | I also wanted to comment on what you said Nocturnal Princess in reference to children.
Young children can easily irritate a dog, since the child does not know any better.
I would never leave a dog alone with a child, no matter how good the dog is with children.
And most parents who do not have dogs themselves, do not understand this. They will always blame the dog.
I just recently had friends over with their young children. But the parents did not supervise. They allowed their children to run to the dogs. I had to take over and catch the child, before who knows what could happen. Shabu is a rescued dog, and I have had him for just about a year now. He fully trusts me now, and is extremely attached to me since I have given him such a great life ... compared to before which I don' t even want to think of ... but, I don't know how he would react to a child attacking him ..... children are lower on the pecking order ......... so, they generally don't take too kindly to children attacking them .......... or they perceive to be attacked.
So, even though there are ignorant people out there with their children, we as dog owners must take the responsibiltiy to ensure our dogs do not attack the children ..... which is most likely a defense action on their part .... | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 7:23:13 AM | Natural Energy,
I monitor my dog with full time attention, but I understand what you are saying.
However, shouldn't the children under direct supervision be at least taught not to trespass if nothing else?
Silly me to expect a parent to teach their children values. Lets just say that my dog might be an animal, but he is far less of an animal than the kids that clutter Juvenile Detention and are destined to become career criminals. I suppose one has to have values oneself to be able to teach them to their offspring. | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 7:40:08 AM | To get back to the OP's topic question,
It is odd that the guy only noticed you had a dog after several conversations despite it having a photo in your profile, clearly he wasn't paying attention... 
However to address the overall topic of your post, I do not care much for pets in general, as I didn't really grow up with them as a child. My parents ran a typical Jamaican household during my childhood in Montreal, and the Jamaican philosophy is that animals are "dirty" and don't belong in the home. An outside guard dog may be fine for some islanders, but almost no one of the older Jamaican generations would ever let a dog enter their "clean home"... 
As such, I partially inherited those views, and don't care to be vacuuming animal fur off my furniture and clothes; also God forbid my date brings over an untrained dog into my bachelor pad, because if one drop of urine makes its way towards my beloved plasma tv, that pooch is going the way of Old Yeller...  
So when I'm scanning the dating profiles here on POF, sadly I have to pass up on contacting a lot of otherwise pleasant ladies online simply because they have one or several hairy pets, and I just don't want to deal with the allergies and shedding in my own home. I don't mind playing with them at my friend's homes, but will probably never allow one in mine...
To each their own, and best of luck to all of POF!   | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 7:46:43 AM | | I think some guys have a problem with dogs because they like to take off on a whim for the weekend and those plans don't always include taking a dog. I will not put my dogs in a kennel but I do have various "dogsitters" that will come to my house for a fee. I like them to stay comfortable in my house not in a crate. My dogs are well behaved , friendly and are never fed from the table. I think a dog person needs to date a dog person to relate to things like "dog hair"..... LOL | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 8:02:42 AM | TigerWoods0924,
I completely understand and respect what you are saying, and that is a very fair and honest approach.
Everyone loved my little guy when he was a cute, little puppy, afraid of the stairs so I had to carry him up and down the stairs to eliminate.
He rides with me in the passenger seat. He goes with me almost everywhere. Pet Supplies Plus is for him like a guy going to Home Depot.
This lifestyle is not for everyone.
There are cultural/subcultural differences, and then complicate that with human differences.
Warmest wishes,
~Miriam | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 8:03:55 AM | About dogs (or any other pet) - There are some people who take it a little too far and to whom the pet(s) have become a replacement for human contact.
This is not always a bad trade off, mind you.....
But if you're anywhere near 'normal' with your dog, cat, parrot, iguana, or whatever else you have there, I'm ok with it, you can even bring them on a date if you like, won't bother me one bit, we'll just adjust the scheduled events accordingly (candle lit dinner in exclusive French restaurant is out....).
About 'germs' - Enough already with all the phobias!
There are more germs on your computer keyboard than on any dogs' rear end, and kissing her dog is actually less potentially dangerous to your health than kissing her. | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 8:22:00 AM |
TigerWoods0924,
I completely understand and respect what you are saying, and that is a very fair and honest approach.
Everyone loved my little guy when he was a cute, little puppy, afraid of the stairs so I had to carry him up and down the stairs to eliminate.
He rides with me in the passenger seat. He goes with me almost everywhere. Pet Supplies Plus is for him like a guy going to Home Depot.
This lifestyle is not for everyone.
There are cultural/subcultural differences, and then complicate that with human differences.
Warmest wishes,
~Miriam
Warmest wishes to you as well Miriam, and thank you for replying to my post in a friendly manner despite our divergent viewpoints! 
Like I said, I've actually grown to like playing with dogs when they belong to someone else, I just haven't reached the point in my life though that they could be a part of my home environment, both in terms of cleanup and time responsibility... I almost went halfsies on a ridiculously-adorable Pomeranian with a buddy of mine once while we were shopping for his bird, but it was a passing moment of cuddly weakness...  | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 9:28:12 AM | Different cultures look at animals differently. Some Middle Easterns look at dogs as having no souls but worship cats. Cultures that used and still use dogs as working animals like a horse is another group who look at them differently.
I grew up bird hunting on the weekends with our dogs in California. It was ritual and almost spiritual like going to church is for some people.
I like introducing a couple of my dogs to people because there a better barometer of what kind of people they are then I can tell about them sometimes.
I think why people(men and women) may shy away is because some people are over the top in there treatment of there animals. There not kids or a subsitute for kids. There pets and deserve to be treated well however there not people. Here's where I reiterate the mental well being of ones personality in the way they treat there animals. I do and will judge if I choose to be around someone by the way they treat there animals.
I would never be with someone who didn't like dogs though.
I think a great first date is to meet at the dog park or somewhere else myself. | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 9:36:27 AM | | OK I read enough of you guys getting disgusted regarding dogs licking their owners hands. I would rather have a dog lick me than a man who scratches his ass, picks his nose and then touches food, etc. etc. Think about it ladies. I have seen more men do disgusting things and would rather have my dogs around than some of them. Enough said. People who dislike animals have something to hide or maybe allergies??? Dogs have good instincts and can tell when a person is evil. My dogs rule!!!! | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 10:33:51 AM | Tigerwoods0924
I too want to commend you for your logical and level headed approach to this topic, even though you do not share our like of dogs. You were not attacking like some people feel they need to do.
It is better not to have a dog if you feel the way you do.
Perhaps with more exposure to the different people and how they deal with their dogs, you may tailor your views of dogs. But, please do not change for the sake of someone else. I am sure you realize that change is only good if it evolves naturally. We all change as we experience more of life ............ even if we don't want to admit it.
I have to mention here of a colleague I once worked with who was Philipino.
He used to kid me that if he came over for a visit, my dogs might make a good meal!
I am sure he was kidding ............ we never tested that one! We got along very well at work! | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 11:21:38 AM | | I personally like dogs ok. In the first half of my life I was fearful of dogs. Not owning them or understanding them and having to deal with packs of them form time to time on the city streets. In the second half I raised a family and dogs for 30 years and loved them very much. Then I dated a women whose lap dog was very much that. On everyones lap, every chair, every couch and in the bed. Not on the bed but in it, under the covers, snuggling right in there with us.... blah!!! Like wolfe45 said, when its a healthy normal relationship with your pet, then its ok | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 2:51:09 PM | Tigerwoods0924,,
My little guy grew to be as large as me, and there is no way I could carry him now.
If I knew how much money he would cost, I would never have adopted him, but I still have no regrets.
He is as big as I am, and he has a big bark, but though I keep him supervised (which people should do with there children!) I am confident that he would not attack anyone, unless I was attacked in which case the consequences would not be pretty.
I recall when I was a little kid I was looking for the the bathroom and entered the forbidden zone of a small local business. The dog barked and I shrieked and ran and got chased. I entered a closed door.
I did not get bit, and the owner collected the dog promptly, and I was the intruder. I was the one at fault there. I am just glad that these people had a big dog with a big bark, and not a big bite unless provoked. I did not get bit, and the dog did his job, and I was the inturder. When these folks realized it was a little kid, they wiped my eyes, led me to the bathroom, and then I pet the dog on my way out.
The business was at fault, and I should not have been behind the private door, so any consequences that occured were because of my actions.
Nonetheless, once again I got off on a tangent.
This is a really simple concept here: If you are not a critter person then exclude people with critters as potential dating matches. | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 2:57:32 PM | God made the first dog outside for a reason. No matter how clean you think your house may be if you have a live in dog it stinks to non-canine owners. I love dogs, I just can't stand furniture, rugs or anything else that smells like them. I can take a smokers house over a dog owners any day. In all fairness the owner is usually immune to this odor. | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 3:43:11 PM | | mop ,most people that are offended with a dog are very sensitive to dog odors unless you bathe your dog daily and feed them right they have a dog smell its a constant battle for fleas and ticks not to say your dog is or isnt a house dog but im a person that likes to lay on the floor and dont want dog hair all over me | |
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| why do alot of the guys at this site have a problem with dogs?
Posted: 8/2/2007 3:50:25 PM | Maybe that's because a dog is more LOYAL than and man and won't LEAVE!
Oh yeah? Stop feeding a Dog or any other animal and see how long it remains "loyal" and sticks around. Animals are animals and as such slave to even more primal instinctual behavior than most Men. Their true loyalty only extends as far as the food bowl remains filled somewhat regularly, and they feel properly cared for. In that respect to some degree I suppose they are the same as Men. To believe otherwise is to delude yourself. Animals are more apt to seek out "greener pastures" if given the chance, than most Men, Cats especially.
Have fun ;)! | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 3:51:17 PM | A lot of people tend to put their pets on pedestals. These kinds are freaks.
Anyhow, dogs lick themselves, poop and pee wherever, and jump and can bite,
I don't care how nice you say the dog is.
I don't blame the guy for saying that.
It is a preference, and he is entitled to it. | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 4:28:01 PM | After reading many of the posts, I noticed many of those who choose not to have dogs or pets, tend to focus mainly on the negative. To those indidviduals I can only tell you that having a dog is an investment. Yes, in order to have a well behaved and obedient dog you have to commit alot of time, money, and patience. There will be accidents and relapses on the dogs part, but if you stick with it, you will have the most loyal, loving companion you will ever know. And that to me is more than enough repayment for all that was given on my part. To me its all about time, if you dont like the hair, take the time to groom your pet, if you dont like the smell, bathe the animal, and so on and so on. Before I get crucified, I commend those who choose not to get a pet solely because they cant commit to the time involved in having one.
Part two: There is a healthy love for ones pet and an unhealthy one.....and if your thinking about beastiality, get your mind outta the gutter. I agree with most good dog owners that their pet is better bahaved than most people and that the pet is a member of the family. However a line has to be drawn. A dog after all is an animal. Just my view but there are places a dog does not belong in the home. For me its on the funiture and beds. They have been provided their own. ie doggie beds and runs. Every dog should be provided a clean healthy environment, food, water and shelter, proper medical care and socialization both human and canine not designer clothes and spa treatments and "GULP" weddings. That is just the owners vanity. But if ya wanna do that thats your perogative.
To all the responsible dog/pet owners, a big BOOYAAA to you guys. And to all the rest, I can only say your missing out on a lot of good companionship | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 5:02:02 PM | Interesting discussion, and I have to admit I've never even considered that someone wouldn't want to date me because of my dogs! Then again, even if he's just looking at my photo, he's GOT to notice the dog, eventually...
Although I wouldn't have said "alot of the guys" have a problem with dogs based on one experience, the topic sure seemed to flush them out, didn't it?
Several people have mentioned it, I must concur: dog people should date other dog people. I've passed by a few myself on the basis that they "weren't particularly fond of dogs".
It IS a personal preference: If a guy doesn't want to date anyone over 40, or under 5'6" tall, or only likes blondes, I don't take offense...Plenty of Fish, ya'll!
As for all the germophobes in our discussion here: Go get some therapy, realize that you are ALSO a mammal, and quit being such a giant pansy. | |
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