| John Lennon: Give peace a chance.
Posted: 1/25/2006 1:37:17 PM | | One more thing - most bands would not be able to keep up with the schedule that the Beatles did from 1963-1966. That is the main reason they stopped touring....they were probably exhausted and fed up by then. Yes they probably did not play that long but the schedule was long and grueling. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2006 5:53:07 PM | It was what would have been John Lennon's 66th birthday earlier this week. I always wondered what creative output or social commentary he would have made if he had lived. His reaction to Ronald Reagan and the New Right and so on.
Also, he died 8 months before MTV. It seemed there was never a camera he didn't like. He made some "promo clips" with the Beatles and later as a solo artist. I wondered how he would have used video in the "MTV age."
What kind of musical output would he have made the last 25 years?
A lot of "what ifs." | |
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Posted: 10/12/2006 7:38:34 PM | Lennon would be 66 if still alive......... man, I *really* wish we were seeing that. Look at what Dylan is doing now ~ ahhhh, a colloboration of Dylan and Lennon.......
I'd love to know what he'd say about many things going on these days. He'd probably be a dedicated supporter of environmental causes and quite outspoken about issues such as Bush, the war ~ all of them and I really wish we had that energy in todays world.
At least Chapman was denied bail recently | |
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Posted: 10/12/2006 11:13:26 PM | Everybody loved the Beatles. They were great guys. THEY really didn't think they were that hot, as far as being accomplished musicians or even as far as their own collective effort as a band. They realized their popularity was a form of mass hysteria. That's why they broke up. They said there was nowhere to go but down.
Lennon was into alot more than just rock music. He and Yoko were conceptual artists.
Had he lived, I don't think he would be part of the mainstream. The sixties, like with Paul and Mick and Bob Dylan and the rest of the crew; was his time.
He probably would have been against the war, but when people in society's opinions about war have changed... could he have done a better job leading us against the war than the ones who are doing it now?
Maybe... but people hear what they want to hear. They'd probably love him and not listen to him; thinking like many of us did: "Well, we won the gulf war. We'll be okay in Iraq."
Don't forget, Bush alone couldn't have led us into Iraq. Unless we'd become arrogant and greedy with military might; we wouldn't be there. In a way it's all of our fault that we're there. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 10:58:23 AM | I beleive Lennon was making a turn in 1980.....
Happy with spending the time watching his child grow, being the father he couldn't be in the past.
Lennon was always about love and respect.
He was ready to record again.
I believe he would have voiced his opinion just as much as any other artist would about wars and such, if he was still around.......but he would have been more focused towards living.
You would have been able to hear some of his thoughts in his music, but his passion would have been just living.
I definitely miss his songwriting | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 12:52:28 PM |
I dont get why people think that John Lennon was such a big influence, i hate the beatles, and i hate anything they ever touched, their one of the worst bands ever. At least i think so.
Wow... You like heavy metal but hate one of the classic rock greats? I think you are confused.
Back then the artists were about something. Not only did they do things with their instruments that could send you to a different planet, but the things they said were real, relevant, and inspiring. Maybe the Heavy Metal has clogged your ears. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 5:52:37 PM | Fiery: I strongly concur with you in this case. There's always alot of stuff in the music world, or fine arts or literature or anything that doesn't matter that much. Usually it's because there's only afew models and everyone else copies them; but Lennon was the real deal. He was a true artist. He created manifestos of truth and made us learn and know more about ourselves and the world. He was a guide to our exploration of the universe... across the universe.
Remembering John. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 5:30:25 AM | i think music is all about personal preferences and choice. however, i think the influence the beatles had on music - INCLUDING metal - is undeniable. To be a fan of any band or genre, you don't have to be a 'fan' of each and every influence the band has but you have to recognize and appreciate the fact that your favorite bands or artists or genres exist because of past influences.
So, if you like metal, you wouldn't have it, without the work of the Beatles and songs like Helter Skelter. So you don't have to like it but respect the influence....
As for John Lennon, I am not the world's biggest Beatles fan but i do respect the work they have done. Lennon, IMO was brilliant. With and without the Beatles. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 9:55:49 AM | Lennon was one of my biggest influences.
I still remember my girlfriend at the time phoning me in tears, and then turning on the TV and just being in shock for the next little while, on that warm December night. I'd been outside, and it was like a warm fall evening.
I still miss him, and mourn not only the man, but all that music we missed out on thanks to one madman with a gun. I also miss his political side, in an era where most artists don't even have a clue, or are too scared to speak out. I also miss his humour, and worldplay.
There's a documentary film out about his battles with the US government, called "The US vs John Lennon. " In today's world, that might allow some of the younger people here to understand their world a little better.
I actually went to NYC, in 1983, and went to the Dakota. A friend and I had visited the old "Ed Sullivan Theatre" , and that was ten years or so before Letterman moved in. It was abandoned, and starting to show signs of neglect.
The two of us stood there, and remembered that night twenty years or so before, and just ...imagined...."
As we walked towards where we thought the Dakota was, we got lost. We stopped, and asked one policeman, and he didn't know what we were referring to. We stopped another one of NYC's finest , and he turned and said (in an almost sterotype Hollywood NYC accent) " Where Lennon got offed ? it's right over there through Central Park. "
We both walked through the park, and stood silently there.
The worst part about it was realizing that I could have quite easily done the same thing from Sept 1977 to December 1980. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 10:56:06 AM | I highly recommend a DVD release of The****Cavett Show with John and Yoko.
Dick Cavett was an innovative talk show host that had some great guests and conducted some fantastic interviews. He really clicked with John and Yoko and had them on a couple of times. John warmed up to him and revealed some pretty interesting insights.
It's fascinating to watch and you really get a feel for what John was like. He doesn't hold back on what he thinks. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 11:29:00 AM | I havent seen that....
But i did see the week both john and yoko co-hosted the mike douglas show.......interesting to say the least.
But thats what i always loved about lennon.
I always dug whatever he would say, especially when it was in song. Yoko on the other hand, i would sit there and say, wow, shes one wave short of a shipwreck.
But lennon loved her, and to me thats what love is.....
I envied his love for her for years and someday, someway.......
I will find my dear yoko  | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 1:57:29 PM |
If theres someone you can live without, then do so.
And if theres someone you can just shove out, do so.
Chorus
You can be my yoko ono
You can follow me wherever I go
Be my, be my, be my yoko ono.
Isnt it beautiful to see two people so much in love?
Barenaked as two virgins hand in hand and hand and hand in glove.
Now that Im far away it doesnt seem to me to be such a pain.
To have you hanging off my ankle like some kind of ball and chain.
Chorus
Oh no, here we go, our life is just one big pun.
Oh no, here we go as yoko sings
Aieee!
I know that when I say this
I may be stepping on pins and needles.
But I dont like all these people
Slagging her for breaking up the beatles.
(dont blame it on yokey!)
If I was john and you were yoko,
I would gladly give up musical genius,
Just to have you as my very own, personal venus.
(hit it!)
Chorus
Be My Yoko Ono
The Barenaked Ladies
Love is real, real is love,
Love is feeling, feeling love,
Love is wanting to be loved.
Love is touch, touch is love,
Love is reaching, reaching love,
Love is asking to be loved.
Love is you,
You and me,
Love is knowing,
We can be.
Love is free, free is love,
Love is living, living love,
Love is needing to be loved.
Love
- John Lennon
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Posted: 11/2/2006 8:26:04 AM | One of my personal favourites...and perhaps even more apt today when everything always seems to be so hectic.
from "Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)"
Life is just what happens to you,
While you're busy making other plans. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2006 8:21:33 PM | I love the way "Love" comes in with the piano in the distance moving closer. It's such a cinematic peice.
And "Nobody Told Me"....and "Jealous Guy".
Especially the chord change at, "....I didn't mean to hurt you. I'm sorry that, I made you cry. I didn't want to hurt you....I'm just a jealous guy"...
John wasn't the best musician, but he was an independent thinker. The day he heard the B52's "Rock Lobster" and those wierd fish vocals ... he called Yoko and told her that he'd heard .."our ideas" on the radio (singing similar to what Yoko did with the plastic Ono band).
Yoko was involved in something called the Fluxus Movement in art, and many people do not know that she is a trained composer who majored in music and was becoming a renown artist in the Fluxus movement by the time John met her when she had a showing of her work in London and he attended this. He was also 8 years younger than her....and she was a single mother a year older than me....38.
I would love to marry a younger guy like him...and be a couple of incredible artistic and spiritually minded people.....making music, films, and pushing the envelope. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2006 8:42:14 PM |
Especially the chord change at, "....I didn't mean to hurt you. I'm sorry that, I made you cry. I didn't want to hurt you....I'm just a jealous guy"...
One of my favourite moments in recorded song | |
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Posted: 11/3/2006 9:47:21 PM | | and on the back of the Let It Be record...John wearing a touque and in a 'rocker' pose with his guitar....Priceless! | |
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Posted: 11/5/2006 9:42:17 PM | Lennon would be (still is) saying the same thing...
"all we are saying... "
to understand the Yoko thing, well, maybe the Barenaked Ladies said it best "i want to be your Yoko Ono..."
anyone understand Carlos Castaneda's relationship with la Gorda?
i want be be your Yoko Ono
i want to bug the hell out of you
i want to be your la Gorda
i promise to drive you nuts...
"... give peace a chance" | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 5:48:32 AM | What I so loved about Lennon was his use of language, especially in his political side.
A lot of people got upset over Imagine, with it's various references. Some claimed John a hypocrite, because he was a wealthy man, and yet he sang "imagine no possesions". They didn't get his concept, because they were sure they knew what he meant.
He wasn't saying get rid of countries, or religion, or possessions - not even close.
He was just saying "imagine" it, remove yourself from your normal frames of reference and see what this imagining implies to your thought process. Realize the implications of these things, all too often , on our lives and on our world. Come away from that with another perspective on the world you live in, and are a part of.
If enough "dreamers" do that, perhaps we can make this world a better place. Those people are not alone, and they need to "come together" , and to speak out. A little idealism never hurt anyone.
It's the same with Baggism, which was silly - unless you got it. If someone's in a bag, then you can't judge them on just their appearance , and you have to take them for who they are. Again, why can't we do that WITHOUT the bag ? It's simply a concept, and he certainly wasn't seriously proposing we all walk around in them.
The same with "Give Peace A Chance". That's not a pacifist message, it's a very human one. Let's try, and see what happens when we do. It's not let's surrender.
If you see John in that light, an artistic one, his vision wasn't outlandish at all. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 7:01:31 AM | toonsmith
awesome post
john lennon rules
all you john lennon ney sayers on here..............you suck,eat it,go back to your def leppard cds you have no taste or a clue | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 12:13:42 PM | | What you can about John Lennon that hasnt already been said. The man was great with the Beatles, great as a soloist, a great humanitarian and a great advocator for peace. I guess you could say he is just simply Great. I will never forget this man and what he stood for. The world just seem to be a much saner place when he was alive. Every year at this time of the year I think of him fondly. I miss you John. Love always. | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 8:38:50 PM | We took a vote on another website of the dumbest rock songs of all times. I hate to say it, but "Imagine" won hands down. I even voted for it.
Think about what the words are actually saying and really "Imagine" a world as John sang about...dull, boring, purposeless, static, and meaningless. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 2:38:56 AM | Okay,....
The piano miking in Imagine is incredible production....that's Phil Spector producing. What an incredible impressionist tone on a piano. It happens to be probably the best piano miking in the history of popular music -- with the piano on Let It Be, second, and then The Rose,..and then....Evergreen (Streisand) is in close competition with Elton's ...Yellow Brick Road miking.
That piano...is the greatest piano miking in the history of pop music. John insisted on using the old Spector tape delay for the vocal.
Some of these comments....have nearly made me cry, too. John was killed, I think, by the CIA (Yoko hinted at this recently again, that was my impression), because MArk David Chapman actually worked on an Air Force base doing orientations on incoming Vietnamese Refugees for the Air Force in conjunction with the YMCA, and he frequently travelled as far as the Middle East, supposedly because he worked..."for the YMCA"...? Baloney, he worked for the CIA. Something about the Chapman story reeks to high heaven of CIA becuase of Chapman's travel history (all over the world, including to the Middle East) supposedly for the YMCA, and his report that he had friends all over the world, and this after his work with the US Air Force intake of Vietnamese refugees. He said, openly, that he felt sorry for all of these children he had worked with who were fleeing the scenario in Vietnam. But this still doesn't explain his work history and travel history.
Lennon knew his life was in danger and frequently talked about this. I think Yoko, based on much of her commentary and repeadely attempting to publically have her husband "sainted" with all manner of memorials that suggest she views his life and death this way....is because she knows the real story behind his death.
Yoko's family was in an underground bomb shelter during the bombing of Hiroshima, and it was her exposure to the American atomic holocaust on Japan that was very much behind her urging her husband to protest the Vietnam War.......BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN JOHN DIED IN 1980......(read closely)...
Viet Nam was over....and it was the beginning of the nuclear era in 1980. With John's history and Yoko's personal aquaintance with Hiroshima, ...what was the potential political disruption of the Lennon/Ono couple going to be with John recording a new album....?
Here comes Mark David Chapman...with his history travelling the world as far as the Middle East, supposedly because he has "YMCA" connections worldwide ? This a few years after he worked on an Airforce base doing orientations on Vietnamese refugees....
The nuclear era kicks into full gear and Reagan becomes Presdent....and while the CIA has a file on John -- who had not done any recording in about 5 years...while parenting and on hiatus, before that album is even done....John is dead. I think Yoko believes that her husband is somekind of saint because of the real cause behind his death,..not because he merely preached a message of peace. John didn't always believe himself and he frequently felt guilty for his position as a very rich man and felt that he had just tapped into this mindset because of that guilt. Yoko knew this, but she also knew something else.....If her husband was to die under mysterious circumstances,...it might well be because he was targeted because of those very ideas and his expression of them, regardless of whether there was an element in John that was somewhat superficial at times and doubted his own reasoning as a byproduct of guilt he talked about over his extreme wealth. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 12:54:31 PM | I can only imagine (no pun intended) the stress and paranoia that John must have been under, when he was being followed by the FBI during the 70's.
My recollection though, is that I bought Double Fantasy before Lennon was shot. I think Just Like (Starting Over) was in the middle of the charts and doing okay.
That five years would have been totally necessary to take off. The whole world wanted something from this man.
According to some books, he was always leery of people ripping him off because he was JOHN LENNON. This is even documented in the film "Imagine" when he went shopping for a gazebo and told the salesman he didn't want to pay double because he was a famous pop star.
The demands on him were always present. Everyone wanted a piece of the famous Beatle.
As far as Mark Chapman/ Manchurian Candidate/CIA theories..... well, who knows? Anything is possible. Mentally ill people would be the easiest to manipulate to do anyone's bidding if you fed into their delusions.
I prefer to think he acted alone. But then, who would have thought Nixon would have been fearful of a Beatle in the first place?
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Bottom line, the world would have been a better place since 1980... if John could have avoided the bullet. New York is a rough town.
But Mark Chapman, no doubt, would have tracked him down wherever John lived.
Now I know why Elvis took up karate! | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 1:05:01 PM | I think Lennon was rather crafty during the time of being constantly stalked by the fbi, for his stance against the war...etc. He was always in the news constantly taking a stand on an issue of the day. Kept himself alive too.
It was only later, after looking after his son for the first five years of his life. Did he probably start feeling good about people again. Alot of things changed in the latter part of the seventies/early eighties.
John Lennon included. | |
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