| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/11/2007 8:36:04 PM | | The good guys are the ones who don't get the time of day from women they respond to. The good guys become bad guys over time by being treated like crap by women. Thus the good guys disappear or become bad guys. I'm on the verge of disappearing, myself. I've always thought that women get the guys they deserve. Of course, I know that thought is fueled a bit by my own failure at finding anyone myself. But I do get tired of women saying they want a "good guy" and being a "good guy" and not getting anywhere. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/11/2007 8:51:04 PM | I feel your pain, gothchickie. I don't think this is limited to one gender, unfortunately. I have met many women who misrepresent themselves horribly. Its one thing to draw attention to your favorable attributes. Its another to just make up stuff about yourself. My pet peave is people who claim that they are considerate, compassionate sensitive people, then you find that they think of themselves first and foremost. Both friendships and relationships must have balance between giving and receiving. I am tired of meeting people who think that all relationships are there for their benefit and convenience.
P. S. I like your pics. If you weren't half my age and a thousand miles away... | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/11/2007 10:13:33 PM | Define "GOOD" guys. Good at lieing and hurting others? Good at being an a$$hole?
I could sit here and type that I'm one of the good guys, DMV would disagree according to my driving record, but, I'm not. I believe that actions speak louder then words. If all these women that keep asking, "WHERE ARE ALL THE GOOD MEN?", would actually open their eyes and look, they'd find em. Sad to say, they don't. Then you all wonder why so many guys look at porn.  | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:21:40 AM | The question that you ask is quite surprising. I know quite a few nice guys, including myself, and they can't seem to get a date with any of you fine ladies. Oh you say you want a "nice guy", but when you get one, how do you treat them. Ask yourself that question. From what I have seen is that most woman want a man that is dangerous. They want the "bad boy" scenerio. There is an instinnct that make women want to try and rehabiliate a "bad boy". Just look around, sweety, and there are a lot of nice guys around you, just look thru the bull shit, and you may find one. And if yo do, then hold onto him, no matter what. He may not be overly exciting, or handosme, or whatever, but will be there for you thru anything that may come in life. You make the decision on what you want. Don't complain, just do something about it.  | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:26:21 AM | I am at my airport renting a Piper Warrior for the day. If you want to know where and when, contact me.  | |
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kgize
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:56:03 AM | I can sympathize sweetchikie Even though I am male – the same thing keeps happening to me…although not being ripped off…but the women really seem to just want sex. It took me nearly half a century to truly understand that everything we experience we alone attracted into our lives. I realize there is a large part of me that wants that kind of woman. This may sound counter intuitive – but believe me – is so true…we attract what we think about…positive and negative…all you posters looking for sympathy are ensuring further experiences of the same type into the future. You do this mostly at a subconscious level.. Stop posts like this – change your view of men…and your experience will change in kind – I guarantee this is true..it is really that simple | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 7:23:47 AM | Unbelievable. You know, I want to be surprised by some of the replys made to your post but, I'm not. Double standards still exist! A man meets & goes out with a women, who does all the things you discribed here...... she's a gold diggung HO. but, a woman meets & goes out with a guy who behaves this way & SHE has the problem? She's 'attracting' the wrong kind of guy by HER actions???? Are you guys serious? Reality is, on-line or in person, people lie. I myself do not waste too much time on the phone or chatting with someone I would like to meet. I make it very clear, before that first meeting that No One can tell if there is a genuine connection (chemistry) before meeting. My meetings are no more then an hour or 2. I can then base my opinion logically, on the conversations that follow. There can be great physical attraction but, more is needed for the long haul. Also, if I meet someone & immeadiately know I do not want to see them again, nothing has been lost or invested. I don't worry about hurting someones feelings after just one meeting because..... well come on, most people know feelings will develope over time. Someone who thinks they can 'fall in love' after one meet, fall to fast & need to slow it down. Patience... BTW... and for the record, I have met some real 'wieners'. It even took more then one date to figure them out. But I have also met a couple of really nice guys. The connection wasn't there for any of us but, I still see both of them as friends. We have exchanged opinions of our own, about people we see & have met on-line. I actually got great feedback from them as to how "they" precieved 'my' profile. Because we are friends, I know they were honest & not being judgemental with their comments. More importantly, they know me! It helped. I know this is kinda long.... sorry. I just wanted to give you a 'different' opinion. Good luck & sometimes it helps to take a break from this stuff altogether. Take care. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 1:03:11 PM | | onastellhorseiride: Stay strong, do not let the women who do not know what they want get to you and win. Sure women go for the bad boys. But look at this way most bad boys, will never change or be anything more than fakes. Stay positive in your outlook on life. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 1:38:30 PM | | That's why I try to stay distant from a woman until I know they are worth my heart. | |
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Zeyphr
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 2:03:00 PM | To paraphrase my co poster Mullato.
All the good guys are being the confidants during the time the women are shacking up and getting preggers from bad boys. Picking up the pieces in the china shop and putting humpty dumpty back together again so they can go running back to the bad boys and get broken up again. We stand on the sidelines and get called dogs as a stereotype along with the general concensus of the male population. We are told that men are dogs except for us. And left because we don't give them that emotional roller coaster bad guys do. I know of many women who I have seen let guys cheat on them and sleep around and come back and they take them back year after year. When the guy finally leaves, the women recoop and go back out into the field. Never choose you, but think you are a wonderful man. Most give the same old addage. ' I would never date a friend because I don't want to ruin our friendship.' as an excuse to not date us anyway. So we end up just watching them systematically destroy their lives. I hate to bring age into the equation but I am 50, I never been married. No illegitimate kids by anyone except one that was slaughtered in the womb by the mother who was warned she would get pregnant if she kept jumping my bones because she was so hot for me she had to have me now and that without protection. So she did get pregnant and then against my concent, killed the child. And I have been there for my female friends all my life only to be discarded for men that were more to their liking. I am still there and the men are long gone. And most still haven't learned. SO, most women want to know where are the decent guys are so they can either avoid them or to put our minds and personalities in the body of their choice. You are who you date. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:25:59 PM | Zeyphr:
Agree with you on most things. If a woman looks for a bad guy, then comes back and to you and you help her through that time and she goes out looking for the same bad guys. The process starts over again for you as well. My opinion, you are the good guy, but a once or twice should be enoungh time. Maybe state to her look at me (my qualities) or cut bait. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:58:22 PM | | There are plenty of "good" guys out there, and on this website. I sincerely believe that if somebody is looking for a "good" guy and winds up with jerk after jerk... they need to take a step back and examine what they are really looking for and what is attracting them to guys. Good guys are really not that hard to find, there are plenty out there. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 6:58:37 PM | | I wouldn't be putting "Humpty Dumpty" back together again. I'd just be like you had your shot, and I'm not gonna be your backup plan. Good luck with the baby, or whatever. Why clean up somebody else's mess? Why is it that only after they get screwed over do they realize your a good guy? LOL Too late at that point. I don't want to be somebody's 2nd choice. And I'm not gonna be. Not angry, just being matter of fact about the situation. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 7:04:30 PM | I know exactly what you're talking about. 30 some-odd years of the feminist movement has finally borne its fruits: a generation of overgrown boys who've been deprived of coming-of-age transformation by discouraging healthy, mature masculine growth and bestializing our gender collectively; a sexual revolution that convinced women to dress how they please but sold out the great concept of "free love" for a neurotic, hypocritical ambivalence toward sex and abstinence spawning mixed messages, confusion, and misery.
Human beings are highly evolved animals so ill-built for the rapid shifts in modern society's social experiments...
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 7:25:54 PM | The thing is about internet dating is you just can't get your hopes up. You just need to not take things personally and don't become involved with anyone until you know for sure there is something there. There are benefits to internet dating....it does make you available to lots of people....but, there is a down side to that also. The trick is to make it work for you. The way I make it work is not becoming emotionally vested in anyone until I know them. The only way you get to know someone is over a period a time. Don't jump into things and don't get your hopes up. If it doesn't work with one person there will be someone else just right around the corner. That is internet dating. I know it is not ideal and it does take an effort. Most of us would like to just find the right person and be done with all this. But, you do just have to keep trying and not put all your hopes and energy into people like the ones you describe...and they are everywhere out here. But, keep on trying ... eventually you will find someone that is right for you. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 8:47:32 PM |
What is it with men in Canada? Every time I see a post like this its from some hottie in Canada that should have men lining up around the block to go after her. Instead all I see are sob stories about dumb dudes that screwed these girls over. I don't get it. I think I need to move to Canada.
I've been going to NY a lot lately, as I have friends over there.
I'd MUCH rather date a American girl than a Canadian girl -- trust me, there's a reason there's lots of Canuck girls complaining on here about men....
Of course, it doesn't hold true with everyone -- seems on average it does however. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/12/2007 11:39:24 PM | | good guys are out there just hard to find...same goes with women. you're a very attractive woman and bound to attract some ***holes. it happens more to some people than others. i'm sure you'll find someone eventually. just a matter of time. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/13/2007 12:42:07 AM | Actually, that might be true. Because there are good guys out there. I tell women I am far from perfect (I suppose I could brag), but I am nice, but I can't always be mr. sensitive, always say the right thing, but I can be caring, the nice guy, romantic... There are extremely decent guys out there. You somehow attracted those guys. Remember, the more aggressive males often have more problems. I am sorry you had a problem. You are better off single until you find a better dude. Many men disappear and then come back acting like everything's cool. Some men must think women are dumb or something? I don't know. One of my friends was dating a solider stationed here in South Korea. She's Canadian, and he is American. He went to America for two weeks and didn't e-mail. When he came back, he was all about contacting her. How hard was it for him to send an e-mail? Why was he so eager when he was back on the same terrain and not so eager far away? As far as the guys who say they are nice and jerks, they should be sued by the nice guys for using their label without merit:) 
Plenty of women misrepresent themselves and deceive men. Some people are just not what they say are.... | |
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Zeyphr
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/13/2007 3:45:44 AM | | I partially agree with you Steel Horse, but if she is like a long time friend who is just stupid. Stupid people need love too so I help her not be so stupid. Problem in the past was I didn't know when to cut my losses and lost more than my shirt. And so I was like, recovering from helping. I think I have learned my lesson on that and only go so far now and then they have to learn on their own. I godda survive. | |
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| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/13/2007 10:26:50 AM | Hey,
As a new member, apologies if I'm picking up on an old thread. I've been reading some of the comments here- some are bang on, others as far from the truth as "there are no good men left". There are as many good men as there are women, and as many bad as good. Which would be great if we were all totally honest with each other, if we all knew what we were looking for, and having found it, weren't afraid of the consequences of grasping it firmly, but not so tightly as to choke the life out of it.
As for those who are looking for a good man with an awesome wage, what's your priority? | |
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Zeyphr
| Joined: 6/12/2007 Msg: 125 | |
| Where are all the GOOD guys? Posted: 8/13/2007 10:48:35 AM | | Sorry pal, if she isn't a video, DVD and gaming geek like me, or at least can tolerate it. I don't care how good she looks. It ain't gonna be a workable relationship. So we would just have to be friends. I have 6 gaming systems and 2 computers with some insanely incredible games on them. Not to mention my comic book collection and action figures. You godda be kidding me! Give up that for a woman who doesn't like that stuff? No way. | |
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