| How important is money?
Posted: 3/25/2008 6:40:21 PM | | I really hate to say this because it is going to result in lots of flack flying by me, but statistically the guy who makes more money is going to be a better bet all around. Just the fact that he has what it takes to go out and get a higher paying job is a good indicator that he has intelligence and a strength of will and character that a guy the same age working for minimum wage probably does not have. It is also a probable indicator of a better personality and people skills. Yes, I know there are exceptions, but I am talking statistically here. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 3/25/2008 7:45:04 PM | It is relatively important. A person's background has a lot to do with it as well. I could not bring home a broken man! They would wonder if I lost my brain. I am sure there are men who feel the same about women. Geez, the first question my father would ask is how much money he is making.....I guess every dad wants to know his daughter will be taken care of.
I also think a similar outlook to money and finances is important for relationship harmony
absolutely!
I strongly dislike wasters; how a man manages his money is more important to me than the amount of money. After all my grandparents went through the war....they taught me the value of saving for the rainy days. I could not be with a man that lives paycheck by paycheck....it simply goes against the values I was brought up with and in which I still believe. Better to live simply and in a spartan way than throwing money away on things of little value: if I was wealthy, I would use the same philosophy.
Money is not important in itself. It depends on what you do with it. To a certain extent, it buys you freedom from worry and freedom of choice ( which are in-valuable!) Of course everybody knows that health and love are more important. | |
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| how important is money?
Posted: 3/25/2008 7:54:00 PM | It used to be very important to me. I was successful and driven for more.
Until my education began with a simple free e-book:
"How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash-Confiscatory Agency Known To Man" by Mary Croft. Absolutely fascinating and quick read, but it's enough to make you want to throw up.
Now, I see money for what it is: worthless pieces of paper, and the sooner everyone else realizes the same, the sooner the world will change. Then again, things are collapsing all around us anyways -- which, believe it or not, is a good thing! :) | |
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| pink floyd says.........
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:11:36 PM | Money is somewhat important to me. Not on its own but as an indicator of other things:
Are you sucessful? Are you motivated? do you have goals that you meet? Are you reliable and stable? these are tough questions to answer just by reading a profile or looking at a picture. Money, however, is an indicator (but not proof positive) of some of these. | |
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| pink floyd says.........
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:41:24 PM | | As I similarly said in another thread: I make enough to pay my bills, but little else. When I have someone in my life, they need to appreciate the little things and know that when I do buy them a gift, etc, it came from the heart. Any woman who will not date me soley based on how much money I have or don't have is not someone who I want to associate with to begin with. Not all who are in the financial shape they're in, chose to be that way. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:05:31 PM | I take care of myself and my daughter completely on my own,so my only dating prerequisite when it comes to finances is that a man is able to stand on his own two feet financially as well. If a man has his own place and doesnt depend on anyone else to pay the bills, hes spiffy in my book:)I would much rather date someone who has strength of character and limited finances, as opposed to a man who is a millionaire,but lacks character and has the personality of a pet rock :P Kat | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:04:14 AM | Making as much money as I can and spending as little money as I can is VERY important to me, but it doesn't have anything to do with other people, relationships, or dating.
But in those cases, as long as they don't cost me anything, what other people have/do is their business. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:04:31 AM | Equality is important......and that means financially as well.
How that is determined will depend on the two involved......
Just my opinion........   | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:33:53 AM | | You can compete by knowing you're a good guy who will treat a woman right...love and respect is priceless and if a woman can't appriecate that then she's not worth your time! | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 11:50:48 AM | Having money is very important to me. How MUCH you have is not.
I am not a sugar momma. If you are a vegetarian you need to buy your own main course, I'll even cook it for you, but I'm not buying your food. You are welcome to the side dishes and the 20 or so vegan meals I make a year, but I am not buying you tofurkey because you don't want to get a job.
I am not paying your rent.
I am not paying your cell phone bill.
I am not paying for your food on a restaurant date. If you're in a money crunch we aren't going OUT to eat.
I will loan you money for a bus pass, but I won't pay for your gas.
I will not pay your child support, alimony or debts.
I will not buy all your family xmas gifts and just put your name on them.
As long as your money covers all that, we're cool.
In the situation you describe, you're perfectly fine as far as money goes. Any woman who has a problem with your money is not the type of woman you want, anyway, I'd be wary of them, they would constantly hold the money you spend on your kids against you. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 1:35:25 PM | | Like air, money isn't important at all until you don't have enough. What each of us defines as 'enough', varies from person to person. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 1:55:33 PM | Well I know this much from experience, money is a great tool but should be used wisely, you dont go flushing your hard earned cash down the toilet so why spend it on a girl that's just using you as her own personal cash machine. I like to thing of anything I do with my money as an investment and if I'm spending it on a female then what am I getting in return? Hopefully, the promise of a meaningful relationship but if you pay attention on the first few dates, you can weed out the gold diggers real easy! I even have two cars, ones a pantsy roundaround and the other costs over £100 grand but you can bet your bottom dollar the 'bling mobile' as I call it doesn't come out too early on unless it's 'just for fun' 
The long and short of it, money cannot buy your happiness but it sure makes being unhappy a hell of a lot of fun!!! Wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo   | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 5:13:55 PM | You should give women all the money you can!
That is if you want a short relationship and never have her respect you. If a woman leaves you because you don't give her money on a regular basis then she was using you and she is not worth it...NEXT. As I see it if you are giving a woman free money then it feels like I have just paid for a hooker and I would never want to cheapen a woman like that.
I can understand if she left her purse at home and was going to pay you back but never just give it. Love should never be about the money like that. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 5:31:31 PM | Try putting on your profile you make $100,000.oo yearly,take a pic of yourself next to a Porshe,take a pic of yourself in front of a very nice mansion-like home.You'll have more messages that you could possibly answer in your natural life time.Of course,when you meet them,and they find out you don't have the bank roll,Porshe,or nice house,just wave goodbye as they run away. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 5:41:42 PM | You don't compete, OP. If you feel you need to, then she's definitely not worth your effort.
Money is essential to survive and live comfortably. As long as you know how to manage your money it's all good. Depending on the woman of course. Some will want the man that makes 6 figures, while others will be happy with a good man that knows how to manage his finances.
Best,
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 5:51:18 PM | | I have taken lesser jobs just to keep myself happy and have made other career changes that have had a direct result on my income. I will soon be starting my fourth career change, retirement/semi retirement, now that scares women to have a young man that is not working, yet they do not know my financial situation. But I will be retired and happy. So in the future when a woman wants to know what I do I will have to say I run a company that dabbles in the leisure business, would you like to invest in this company it's a sure thing. Money is important, but how much money is the question. | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/14/2008 6:06:32 PM | "Equality is important......and that means financially as well. "
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/16/2008 8:27:27 AM | Money...in and around itself...is not very important...
Ahh...but the power, material objects, instant gratification, variety, and freedom that money can buy or merit you? Persuing all that often goes to the exclusion of everyone...and everything else!
We're not animals...We're worse! We're HUMAN!
Hey...at least I'm being realistic about it! | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/16/2008 12:12:18 PM | Just a few observations...
There is a difference between wearing money and having money.
Some people "wear" their money. They buy expensive clothes, watches, shoes, and cars. They throw around money at bars and restaurants. They buy the biggest and most expensive houses and condominiums that they can afford, usually at the cost of their savings. Some of these people actually are well off. In reality, most are not. They are what I like to call the "fake" wealthy.
Then there are the wealthy who have money but don't wear it. They drive Honda's, Toyotas and pickup trucks. They wear simple watches like Timex and Casio. They wear sweatshirts, t-shirts, golf shirts, and affordable shoes. They don't buy a car unless they can pay for it in cash. They don't buy houses unless they can put afford to buy it for cash even if they decide to put a mortgage on it. Sure, they could afford an Aston Martin, wear a Rolex, put on Hugo Boss and slip on Gucci's, but who would they be trying to impress?
When you initially meet a woman, wearing money definitely makes you more attractive. A woman has only two ways to know if a man is financially successful. Either they are "wearing" wealth, or someone has told them that the man at the end of the bar is wealthy. Given that men who don't wear wealth generally don't like talking about their wealth, then it makes sense that a woman will tend to be attracted when there is the appearance of wealth. It's the closest thing to an indicator of the ability to provide, regardless of how inaccurate it is.
Those who are truly successful already know they are successful. The people who matter to them already know how successful they are. Most of them could care less whether Joe Blow at the local bar thinks they are successful.
Actually having money makes a man more attractive to a woman once they are *already* in a relationship. This is where the idea of security, freedom and financial independence come into play. While not an over-riding factor, most women do take it into consideration when they are considering the prospects of getting married or having a family. How much it helps is up to each woman, however I've met very few women who would say that a man being wealthy would be a turn off.
Sure, those women exist. However, those women tend to have issues with wealth, poverty, capitalism and the material world in general. They are quite frankly the exception.
That being said, among the wealthy, the ones who wear their money are far, far less common than the ones who appear middle class or average to most of the outside world.
Unfortunately, it's the individual who wears their money that is most visible in society. The ostentatious consumption is what the world sees, not the quiet millionaire who carefully guards their savings and investments. It's the loud braggarts like Donald Trump with his 282 foot yacht, $100,000 parties and jet-setting lifestyle who get all the public attention. Meanwhile, quiet men like Warren Buffett live in the same house middle class house he bought in 1962, has his cherry cokes and cheeseburgers and goes about his business.
In actuality, most people who are wealthy are less material than those of the middle class. They are less concerned with "keeping up with the Joneses" as they already know where they stand in the world. They have means, and feel little compulsion to "prove it".
Is money a factor for women? Of course it is. Not always because of the money itself, but often because of the character traits that are associated with wealth.
Right or wrong, people who are successful financially are often viewed as hard-working, responsible, ambitious, skilled, talented, more often than not educated, high in social status, and more intelligent than average.
Is this always true? Of course not. However, unless you happen to inherit your wealth or win a lottery, most likely at least some of those traits are true.
As for the negative stereotype of the greedy, power-hungry and egotistical millionaire, this is rarely true as well. Most wealth is generated through the creation and operating of businesses. Only a very small fraction is generated through such means as speculation through the stock market, athletics or famous occupations such as actors and musicians. There are millions of millionaire businessman, but perhaps only a few thousand millionaire actors, musicians and athletes.
A business is the sum of it's people. If you own a business, you had better know how to deal with people. Otherwise, sooner or later your people either end up driving your business into the ground, or they pull up stakes and go work for someone else.
Finally, just having money isn't nearly as helpful in meeting women as most men like to think. If you want to extract the maximum benefit, you have to "wear" your money. Of course, that opens the door to the other side of the dating coin... the "gold digger".
This of course leaves wealthy men with a curious choice. Live ostentatiously and attract more women, but be more vulnerable to attracting gold diggers and superficial women, or live simply like Eddie Murphy in Coming to America, and hope that fortune smiles and helps you find that genuine woman who falls in love with you before she knows how much money you have.
Just some thoughts.
Wanderer | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/16/2008 4:27:53 PM | Response to Message #147:
Too true! Keep a low profile...and what THEY don't know...won't hurt YOU! | |
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| How important is money?
Posted: 5/16/2008 4:47:23 PM | | Money is very important. What I cannot seem to understand is how I encounter so many middle-aged losers with piles of bills and seeking women to make their lives easier. I still want a man who is man enough to be a man.............. I'll stay single and debt-free, thank you! | |
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