| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 3/31/2008 7:13:15 PM | W e are egocentric to the point of having developed an over-inflated sense of self-importance, but it didn't happen over night and it did not have to be that way. Hey, we do have the right and ability to make choices and reap the consequences both good and bad; so enough with the hairless ape stuff. I would think the muse could come up with something better than hear, hear, after all she does have a brain weighing approximately nine pounds.
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 7:29:44 AM | what the hell how is climate change even on the list? mankind lived through a ice age already, we live in all the coners of the earth so dried out hot planet liveable to. simply put we and all life are xamples of billions of years of evolution in result the live now on earth is the best the planet has ever seen. now many weaker species would be wiped out and then replaced by a stronger better one. with our minds humans can change there fate by simply building a structure to stay warm, melting ice to get a drink, growing plants to eat. or even though to expensive right now for mass use but changing sea water into fresh water.
a asteroid would be bad really bad kill many if not most, but within reason on its size not being to hugh its livable. basing this one on odds saying the odds of a big enough comet or astroid even coming within a billion miles of earth in any of our life times its more likly that bush will be the one that discover cold fusion.
so look at it from say the planet killer that hit around the dinosaurs time, life still lived. guess what those speicies are still here, the new stronger virsons on the ones wiped out are here. and theres us with our technoagly. so the inpact kills everyone and thing in its blast range, vaperationg the ocean where it lands creating a massive tsunami that also kills maybe millions of people. also the inpact sends tones of debeir and dust into the air and atmosphere, causeing earth to go threw a mini ice age and a few months of darkness.
fungus thrives during this time, mankind suffers as parts of the world that havent seen snow in millions of years are cold. however the strong survive, hunting and gathering or simple living off all food that isnt going to vanish, canned tuna and dehyrated veg if the period last long then thought.
i will come back later and explain a few other of these so called threats to mankind . some would be bad like the top 2 but as a species we would be fine.
see i dont just belive something cause i see it on tv or in a movie. i have to ask my self what i think about it,then take the time to learn about it.
hey all you sheep can be happy living in fear, just eat this stuff out of the hands of your shepards. it is only natural to fantasize about something grander then the every day 9-5. i for one refuse to follow blindly to the propaganda machine that is the media. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 7:59:51 AM |
what the hell how is climate change even on the list? mankind lived through a ice age already, we live in all the coners of the earth so dried out hot planet liveable to. simply put we and all life are xamples of billions of years of evolution in result the live now on earth is the best the planet has ever seen. now many weaker species would be wiped out and then replaced by a stronger better one. with our minds humans can change there fate by simply building a structure to stay warm, melting ice to get a drink, growing plants to eat. or even though to expensive right now for mass use but changing sea water into fresh water.
Sure, we'd survive. But how many of us?
If we have another ice age, (or equally, massive global warming) I'd expect the population to be reduced by 90%+, simply because we wouldn't be able to grow enough food to sustain ourselves.
Don't you think that losing 90%+ of the population counts as a major threat to humanity? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 8:13:55 AM | sure 90% would but where do you get that figure? no logic in the one. and yet still its not a direcrt threat to wiping us out.
but still 10% of 6 billion is more then enough for mankind to carry on. what do you think is the bigger threat 10% of 6 billion people living, or those 6 billion turning into 12 billion or the the later 24 billion then soon after 48 billion......at what point is which a threat? when does with the current path become a threat of growing food suppiles... | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 8:42:04 AM | Arguably it is a threat to our existence... since it exacerbates population overshoot. The longer the population exceeds the carrying capacity of the planet, the further reduced the carrying capacity gets - and it's entirely possible to reduce it to zero, guaranteeing our extinction.
If we start having food shortages (caused by either climate change reducing the food supply, or population growing too fast), are we going to carefully cultivate sustainable agriculture, fishing, and so forth... or will we be more likely to overfish till the oceans are empty and intensively farm high-yield monocrops till the land is dead and infertile?
I think we all know which of those we'll do. Or rather, which of those two we already *are* doing.
The very real possibility exists that unless we kill ourselves off with war or plague, we'll react to the shortages of climate change by cannibalising every natural resource on the planet until it can no longer sustain us at all.
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Some figures. Many experts estimate the current 'sustainable' carrying capacity of the earth to be around 1 billion - which would be a die off rate of around 85%
http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/population.htm
That makes a figure of 90% with climate change extremely generous! | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 9:18:14 AM | so that 1 billion if your read that page was if everyone lived the way we do out west. which sint the case are all. your looking at a case of us north americans putting up numbers the other parts of the world dont.
its simple put that most of the over population is in the 3rd world countries and add in asia more china then anything. so will many of them die and suffer from food shortages? yes alot already are...could that be changed? yes wouldnt take to much ethier other then some money and education.
if people would be less worried abotu there co2 emissionsm's and real issues.
i think your use of the word expert should have "" around it. as the food supply here in north america we could feed many of these starving people with our table scrapes, or the excess food that people enjoy to eat. we are not limited on how many people we have but more on how much we are will to help. problem with that though is alot of these people do not want to be helped. as the aids virus shows you that even though the west tries to inform if young people are not going to listen well look at afirica.
you aslo seem to fail to rememeber that ice ages and climate change are a way the earth has always naturaly cleaned and fixed problems.
there has never been a species like humans we can change our fate, it is not limited to the type of enviroment we live in, see space exploration, the artic, rainforrest, plains, and every other place man has set foot on and called home. those to weak to survive a massive event like say a ice age well the weak die and the strong survive, will make up for all the weak that only live today thanks to modern medican.climate change is just another version of natural selection, which is really needed. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 4:44:36 PM | How about the inability of almost an entire generation to effectively communicate because they refuse to read books, in school they write reports by cutting and pasting off the internet, and when they do write (usually using instant messaging), they use shorthand instead of writing words in full?
How will ideas be shared? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/1/2008 5:01:29 PM | FDR addressed that issue when he said we have nothing to fear but fear itself.
danny | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 5:48:09 AM | | Our lack of concern for the environment. The flora, fauna, animals and insects that we have pushed to extinction or to the brink of extinction. Our inability to evolve to the point where cruelty and abuse of children (and animals) is considered so heinous, so unforgivable, so egregious, that these type of acts and thoughts actually completely disappear from every aspect of our existence. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 6:54:36 AM | I would say...
1. over population (mankind itself?)
2. technology (pros and cons)
3. a zombie outbreak
4. an alien invasion
5. a demonic invasion
6. the sun burns out
7. a gigantic meteor collides with the earth
8. disease & plague
9. dopplegangers
10. me (assuming I somehow became ruler of the world) :)
YIKES! who could argue with any of that. Dopplegangers?! An alien invasion??!! A zombie outbreak???!!! I need a drink...and my tin foil mind probe protection hat. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 9:44:55 AM | | greatest threats to mankind would be raping the consumer, marketing campaigns that utilize psychological manipultaion(all of them?), the modern medical idea that disease is an enemy and must be killed off at all costs (is seen in only in humans in this manner, other animal species, disease keeps populations strong and healthy), and capitalism(only in that its basis is personal profit and gain) | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 10:19:08 AM |
Our lack of concern for the environment. The flora, fauna, animals and insects that we have pushed to extinction or to the brink of extinction. Our inability to evolve to the point where cruelty and abuse of children (and animals) is considered so heinous, so unforgivable, so egregious, that these type of acts and thoughts actually completely disappear from every aspect of our existence.
Just had to be said again, thanks
Oh sorry novascotialass for cutting and pasting (peace out) lol sorry just pulling your leg | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 4:22:17 PM |
How about the inability of almost an entire generation to effectively communicate because they refuse to read books, in school they write reports by cutting and pasting off the internet, and when they do write (usually using instant messaging), they use shorthand instead of writing words in full?
How will ideas be shared?
That's easy, by talking with me in particular. What idea's did you have in mind? Astronomy, Geology, Geoastronomy, Planetary "science", Our Solar System, Killer Asteroids, Non-Fiction books about the former topics. Iv'e read them all. And I understand what they call a mystery to be really a group think delusion that shall remain unnamed at this time. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 5:33:23 PM | | How about the stockpiles of the biological germ warfare? One leak from the many sites in various countries and one mutation of any of these viruses... and even Dustin Hoffman won't be able to help. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 5:51:21 PM |
That's easy, by talking with me in particular. What idea's did you have in mind? Astronomy, Geology, Geoastronomy, Planetary "science", Our Solar System, Killer Asteroids, Non-Fiction books about the former topics. Iv'e read them all. And I understand what they call a mystery to be really a group think delusion that shall remain unnamed at this time.
Firstly, you read, so you are not part of the generation who avoids books. Secondly, my 14-year-old son has asked me to correct your grammar, since I do this every day with him. So, here you go: I won't charge a fee this time. Here's how I would have written your text:
That's easy: by talking with me directly. What ideas did you have in mind: astronomy, geology, geoastronomy, planetary "science", our solar system, killer asteroids, nonfiction books about the former topics? I've read them all, and I understand what they call a mystery to be really a group-think delusion that shall remain unnamed at this time... I would fix this last sentence, but I'm not sure what you mean. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/2/2008 8:40:17 PM | I'm with 'shithead'
the greatest threat to mankind is himself.
greed and tribalism. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/3/2008 12:34:31 PM | | Ancient Muse I had to print that list of threats out and take it to work because everytime I read it I start laughing. Scarily some of the ones that seem most preposterous are absurd possibilities that can't unequivocally be proven not to happen. On the other hand when my day goes to sh**t I can also read it and think...things could be worse...much worse. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/4/2008 10:30:58 AM | | Overpopulation is the greatest threat to man. Too many people will result in overly scarce resources that will cause widespread disease, violence, and death. This is happening right now and will continue to escalate in our lifetimes. Observe the growth of bacteria on a petri dish. When the bacteria consume the available resources, they die. Unfortunately, we are unable to stem our natural instinct for reproduction sufficiently to avoid this inevitable result. I'd say just wait and then I'll tell you "I told you so" - but all of us - or the vast majority anyway - will be gone by then. We can hope that a few with favorable genes will survive the toxic environment resulting from excess waste and non-existent resources. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/4/2008 1:38:47 PM | see the problem with over population being a massive threat is...well doesnt it kinda take care of its self when people start dieing? really think about it for a second here. if we run out of food say....well alot of people will die, some will be killed and eaten if it really came down to it. but in the end or near the end you dont have as many people as when it was massivly over populated.
and yet again the strong survive, natural selection at its best. not really a threat to mankind maybe a threat to men but not the speices. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/5/2008 4:25:28 AM | It would be hard to kill our species through overpopulation due to a lack of food, as smackemhard points out, but could destroy the planet as we know it with bombs, and as the other poster pointed out that would be due to the tensions that result from overpopulation
Eventually we`d bounce back, but our genetic pool would be diminished and probably much of it would be damaged through mutations. I don`t know if that`s what Darwin was thinking with his concept of survival of the fittest. | |
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